<div dir="ltr">I think i misunderstood what you guys said about jbod (my fault for reading quickly), i talked about the jbod feature, not a hardware piece.<br>My disks are sitting in my desktop, if i buy an external storage for the disks i might as well build a nas, which is what i do not want, i'm looking for internal connection not external.<br><br><div>was crawlking lsi and highpoint cards, cards between 200 to 300+$$, not really what i call <span style="font-size:12.8px">cheaper stuff that's aimed at Winblows users ;)<br><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-02-02 22:18 GMT+01:00 Rick Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ricks@alldigital.com" target="_blank">ricks@alldigital.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On 02/02/2016 11:51 AM, thibaut noah wrote:<br>
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@roberto : would love to but i can't. I have only 3 sata ports available<br>
on my motherboard, otherwise i would be running zfs already. :/<br>
I don't have any choice here, either i buy a compatible raid card or a<br>
hba card (or buying an expensive nas lol)<br>
<br>
@gordon : The number of atx motherboard dedicated to gamers with ecc<br>
compatibility is close to none.<br>
Since i am no exception (no ecc support) i will not change my<br>
motherboard for this, never had an issue and i had 3+ To of datas for<br>
almost 5years, would be pointless to change my motherboard now anyway<br>
since i'm waiting for kubylake.<br>
The basic consumer just follow the trend, if constructors don't feel<br>
like we need it they won't put us fancy features.<br>
<br>
I'll look at your links thanks. Already did look for specific chipset<br>
that are good with zfs but almost every list is too old, seems that<br>
every time a brand is building something that works they don't change it<br>
for like 10years or something.<br>
<br>
Ah ! That's how you call it in english, didn't know, well that's what<br>
i'm looking for, already have the mini-sas to sata cable.<br>
I'm talking about passing your disks as jbod with an hba card, since you<br>
will not rely on some hardware card ram and processor my logic (and some<br>
tests i found online) tells me it will be faster.<br>
<br>
@rick : was looking for hba already but everytime i find a good card i<br>
have to mail the tech support of the constructor to check if it will run<br>
with my kernel, such a pain...<br>
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If you stick with one of the "major players" (e.g. Dell, HP, IBM,<br>
Adaptec, Emulex) and you're willing to pay a bit more, you'll probably<br>
be just fine. Example:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=342-0910" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=342-0910</a><br>
<br>
6Gbps dual-port SAS2 HBA, about $200 US, and I can pretty much guarantee it'll work with your kernel. Couple that to a JBOD and some drives and you're good to go.<br>
<br>
If you stick with the cheaper stuff that's aimed at Winblows users,<br>
you'll have a much harder time. While you may not think of it this way,<br>
you're encroaching on "SOHO" (small home and office) territory, at least<br>
as far as the manufacturers are concerned, and that's sorta where you<br>
have to look.<br>
<br>
I'd suggest spending your money on a decent HBA, and prowl eBay for<br>
a JBOD (there's lots out there and on the used market, they're rather<br>
cheap). The JBOD itself isn't a big deal--as long as it's compatible<br>
with your HBA. The drives you use IN the JBOD are important.<br>
<br>
Just my $0.02. It's your data, you know how secure you need it and what<br>
you can spend.<br>
<br>
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2016-02-02 19:18 GMT+01:00 Rick Stevens <<a href="mailto:ricks@alldigital.com" target="_blank">ricks@alldigital.com</a><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:ricks@alldigital.com" target="_blank">ricks@alldigital.com</a>>>:<span class=""><br>
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On 02/02/2016 10:04 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:<br>
<br>
On 02/02/2016 08:43 AM, thibaut noah wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<snip><br>
<br>
<br>
I think I'm talking about the cases you mentioned in an earlier<br>
email. A<br>
lot of HBAs have a single cable connection, such as a mini-SAS<br>
connection, that connects to a board (a backplane) that sits at<br>
the back<br>
of the drive bays, on which the power and data connections for the<br>
drives are mounted.<br>
<br>
<br>
Otherwise known as a JBOD ("just a bunch of disks"). There are tons of<br>
JBODs out there. Google search for "JBOD" or "storage arrays". I even<br>
see an HP enclosure for $250 US from HardDrives Direct.<br>
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