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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Yeah, there could be a link to
      developer.fedoraproject.org too.<br>
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      On 05/29/2015 05:27 AM, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:<br>
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432868799633_36921" dir="ltr">Would not
          the magazine be a good place to have a section to meet Adam's
          great ideas.<br>
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                      style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Pete
                  Travis <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lists@petetravis.com">&lt;lists@petetravis.com&gt;</a><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                  Adam Samalik <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:asamalik@redhat.com">&lt;asamalik@redhat.com&gt;</a>;
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:websites@lists.fedoraproject.org">websites@lists.fedoraproject.org</a> <br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> For
                  participants of the Documentation Project
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:docs@lists.fedoraproject.org">&lt;docs@lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;</a> <br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                  Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:27 AM<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                  Re: [proposal] Fedora Developer Portal<br>
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                On 05/27/2015 08:57 AM, Adam Samalik wrote:<br>
                &gt; Hello everyone!<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; I would like to make a proposal about new project:
                a website for Fedora developers.<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; === Why? ===<br>
                &gt;  - Fedora does not have a page targeted on
                developers like developer.ubuntu.com or
                developer.apple.com<br>
                &gt;  - Developers have no place to find out about
                interesting projects like Copr, Developer Assistant,
                etc.<br>
                &gt;  - There is also no place with guides and help on
                how to get things up and running<br>
                &gt;  - Current fedoraproject wiki is not designed for
                app developers, 'developers' on wiki essentially means
                Fedora packagers<br>
                &gt;  - There is no place for downloading (promoting)
                Docker images and Vagrant boxes based on Fedora<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; === What? ===<br>
                &gt; Create a new page: developer.fedoraproject.org - a
                new go-to place for app developers running Fedora.<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; The web page has would show beginners or advanced
                users how to install a new features on Fedora and what
                to do if they want to start developing something in
                Fedora.<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; The main categories could be something like these:<br>
                &gt;  1. Development tools:<br>
                &gt;    - Vagrant, Developer Assistant, ...<br>
                &gt;    - Which tools to use for development and how
                they can help me<br>
                &gt;    - explain WHAT the project is and HOW to get it
                running<br>
                &gt;  2. Languages, technologies, runtimnes:<br>
                &gt;    - Python, Ruby, Rails, Perl, ...<br>
                &gt;    - Info about packages, the "I am a _ developer"
                view<br>
                &gt;    - explain WHAT the project is and HOW to get it
                running<br>
                &gt;  3. Distribution/deployment:<br>
                &gt;    - Copr, Docker, Openshift, ...<br>
                &gt;    - How to get my project to people?<br>
                &gt;    - explain WHAT the project is and HOW to get it
                running<br>
                &gt;  4. Docker images, Vagrant boxes, ...<br>
                &gt;  5. Blogs<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; Petr Hracek and Josef Stribny and I are starting
                this project and I will be the one responsible for it. <br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; Do you have any tips, recommendations or
                expectations about this project? Is there something you
                would like to see on the page? Let's start a discussion!<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; Thanks!<br>
                &gt;<br>
                &gt; Adam Samalik<br>
                &gt; Associate Software Engineer<br>
                &gt; Red Hat<br>
                <br>
                This sounds a lot like developer-focused documentation. 
                The docs team<br>
                has been talking a lot about refocusing lately, and I
                had it in mind to<br>
                structure something that would provide appropriate
                content to users,<br>
                contributors, community members, and developers.  It
                would be great if<br>
                we could combine efforts on this.<br>
                <br>
                There's a rough concept in place that I've been *slowly*
                hacking at;<br>
                take a bunch of git repos containing source markup (ie
                one for each<br>
                current guide, one for the python SIG, one with
                fedora-infra SOPs, one<br>
                for the Server WG and edition, you get the idea) and
                process them.  One<br>
                step validates and pushes strings to zanata for
                translation; another<br>
                renders to html and extracts some metadata, another step
                parses the<br>
                metadata to create a menu / site structure.  The steps
                are run by<br>
                buildbot (maybe taskotron, eventually) and triggered by
                commits or<br>
                fedmsg signals, so content creators can simply write out
                a<br>
                ReStructuredText article without getting concerned about
                the publishing<br>
                process and presentation.<br>
                <br>
                We've found that more people are willing to write -
                whether it's API<br>
                reference materials or general desktop usage - if their
                domain knowledge<br>
                can be the focus, and not documentation tooling and
                processes.  We also<br>
                find that a git workflow enables better quality
                documentation and<br>
                fosters a sense of ownership and involvement, so the
                idea is to meet<br>
                halfway.  <br>
                <br>
                -- <br>
                -- Pete Travis<br>
                - Fedora Docs Project Leader<br>
                - 'randomuser' on freenode<br>
                - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  ymailto="mailto:immanetize@fedoraproject.org"
                  href="mailto:immanetize@fedoraproject.org">immanetize@fedoraproject.org</a><br>
                <br>
                -- <br>
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Petr Hracek
Software Engineer
Developer Experience
Red Hat, Inc
Mob: +420777056169
email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:phracek@redhat.com">phracek@redhat.com</a></pre>
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