I have the .iso for the Live CD of F16xfce, and I can install from that; but I'd rather have a DVD with the whole shebang, if I could find it. I did not manage to find it from the get Fedora page, nor the xfce page. Does it exist? I want to convert a machine currently running CentOS 6.2, and I don't know of a way to make it do a preupgrade and turn into Fedora.