<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">As I remember, when you are newly start the fresh installed fedora xfce spin system (even in F18), there is no tray volume controller application. I didn't know that how can I restore it or it's exisiting at all, so fetched first volumeicon (what is crashed all the time, was in bugzilla many times), then pnmixer filled my needs until now - but removed it immediatelly now. Why? Because I have found an solution between the plugins, and that provides the missing tray applet part for the xfce4-mixer. So the way to have the tray app is, rclick on the tray, panel, add new plugin, volume - and pops up an mixer app. Problem solved, so forget my pnmixer suggestion, but we need this to be turned on the spin if possible. HTH for other guys too.<br>
<br>For other apps: I tried to gather and suggest small, but nice solutions, as we have low amount of space on disc - yet would be great to have more complete desktop. Sadly read, that many apps has dead upstream, and some has no reason to keep it. <br>
</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">I have to agree about the evince-gtk. Yet, I think we need the gnome font viewer, I had really missed it, and after my knowledge there is no other tiny app where you can handle and install fonts too through gui. But these are just my suggestions, and impressions about what should we include.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small"> And yes - it would be nice to hear other guys opinions either. Thx Christoph, and Kevin.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:small">
<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/20 Christoph Wickert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:christoph.wickert@gmail.com" target="_blank">christoph.wickert@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Am Montag, den 20.05.2013, 21:50 +0200 schrieb Zoltan Hoppar:<br>
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> I'd like to also add the following apps:<br>
><br>
><br>
> - PnMixer for sound management (500 k), as PulseAudio has never will<br>
> have tray app<br>
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</div>I don't see what it offers over xfce4-mixer and it's plugin. ANd it's<br>
crashing for people with more than one soundcard or USB soundcards.<br>
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> - epdfview (407 k)<br>
<br>
Dead upstream, that's why we switched to evince-gtk.<br>
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> - atop (100 k) - not a must, but very versatile, multifunctional<br>
> top-like app<br>
<br>
</div>I like this on, not sure if we should focus on console apps on a desktop<br>
spin.<br>
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> - gnote (if it's not added - 3 megs)<br>
<br>
</div>Dead upstream, I still maintain and use it in the LXDE spin, but for<br>
Xfce we should IHMO stick to the xfce4-notes-plugin.<br>
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> - As we have Asunder, maybe good idea to have Easytag (5 megs), or<br>
> Tagtool (870k)<br>
<br>
</div>We already have this in thunar through the thunar-media-tags-plugin and<br>
thunar-bulk-rename (which can deal with tags, too).<br>
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> - Fpm2 - lightweight password manager (362 k)<br>
<br>
</div>Never tried it.<br>
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> - mtpaint as image editor, because gimp is too big (570 k, no deps,<br>
> pygtk)<br>
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</div>Not really usefull IHMO.<br>
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Thanks for your suggestions. I think we should focus on bringing the<br>
best of *Xfce*, but I am looking forward to hear more opinions.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Christoph<br>
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