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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
        Tried fedup on my laptop; it would not reboot to finish the
    installation.  I re-installed the 21 spin and tried it again and on
    the first reboot GRUB did not show fedup.  I rebooted and fedup
    finally showed on the GRUB screen.  I selected it and since then
    (about ten minutes ago) the screen has been blank.<br>
    <br>
        I just gave it a retry and was able to boot 21 again
    (surprisingly) , so I tried fedup once again.  It seems to me that
    fedup does not play nice with dual-booted machines.  I also tried
    fedup it on an old machine in the basement, and it seemed to work
    just fine right up until it told me I didn't have enough space.  I
    have pulled out gparted and will give it another go.<br>
    <br>
        As I was getting ready to send this, fedup finished and I got a
    GRUB screen with the fedup option again. Once again, I selected it
    and the screen just blanked.<br>
    <br>
        All of which makes me think that fedup and its wiki page, need
    some attention, at least for amateurs like me.<br>
    <br>
        Thanks,in advance for hearing me out.<br>
    John C. Deal<br>
    2575 Wexford RD<br>
    Columbus, OH 43221-3215<br>
    (614) 325-1177 (cell)<br>
    <br>
    On 05/27/2015 04:06 PM, Randy Berry wrote:<br>
    <span style="white-space: pre;">&gt; I ran 'dnf distro-sync' to be
      sure. Everything went smoothly. Very few activities for the sync.<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Randy Berry
      &lt;<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:randyn3lrx@gmail.com">randyn3lrx@gmail.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:randyn3lrx@gmail.com">&lt;mailto:randyn3lrx@gmail.com&gt;</a>&gt;
      wrote:<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;     Well, upgrade went fine without the use of the --product
      argument. I have Mate, Gnome and Xfce all installed, all updated
      without event.<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;     On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Randy Berry
      &lt;<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:randyn3lrx@gmail.com">randyn3lrx@gmail.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:randyn3lrx@gmail.com">&lt;mailto:randyn3lrx@gmail.com&gt;</a>&gt;
      wrote:<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;         Give me a bit.. I'm practicing what I preach.. fedup
      from F21 to F22 is running now without the product option. So far
      so good. We'll see what happens when I need to reboot.<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;         On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:46 PM, John C. Deal
      &lt;<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com">johndeal@columbus.rr.com</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com">&lt;mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com&gt;</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; So just : "fedup --network 22"?<br>
      &gt; John C. Deal<br>
      &gt; 2575 Wexford RD<br>
      &gt; Columbus, OH 43221-3215<br>
      &gt; (614) 325-1177 &lt;tel:%28614%29%20325-1177&gt; (cell)<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; On 05/27/2015 12:44 PM, Randy Berry wrote:<br>
      &gt; &gt; To my understanding --product has been depreciated. It
      was a requirement for pre-F21 and upgrading to F22 from F21 works
      fine without it.<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; From the man page<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; "OPTIONS<br>
      &gt; &gt;    Required Arguments<br>
      &gt; &gt;        --product [cloud,server,workstation,nonproduct]<br>
      &gt; &gt;            Specify the Fedora flavor to target for
      upgrades. Required for<br>
      &gt; &gt;            updating pre-F21 systems."<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:36 PM, John C. Deal
      &lt;<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com">johndeal@columbus.rr.com</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com">&lt;mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com&gt;</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com">&lt;mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com&gt;</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com">&lt;mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com&gt;</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; For one thing, references to you rather than dnf.  More
      importantly, when I follow the instructions to upgrade to the F22
      spin, I get this:<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; # fedup --network 22 --product= nonproduct<br>
      &gt; &gt; usage: fedup &lt;SOURCE&gt; [options]<br>
      &gt; &gt; fedup: error: unrecognized arguments: --product=
      nonproduct<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; John C. Deal<br>
      &gt; &gt; 2575 Wexford RD<br>
      &gt; &gt; Columbus, OH 43221-3215<br>
      &gt; &gt; (614) 325-1177 &lt;tel:%28614%29%20325-1177&gt;
      &lt;tel:%28614%29%20325-1177&gt; (cell)<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; On 05/27/2015 10:48 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt; On Tue, 26 May 2015 16:02:05 -0400<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt; "John C. Deal" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com">&lt;johndeal@columbus.rr.com&gt;</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com">&lt;mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com&gt;</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com">&lt;mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com&gt;</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com">&lt;mailto:johndeal@columbus.rr.com&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
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      &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; All,<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;     I am a mere beneficiary of all of your
      work, not a contributor.<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; That said, it would be great if someone could
      devote some attention to<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; the Fedup wiki
      (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp</a>), which seems a<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; bit outdated.<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt; From a quick look it seems ok to me. Where there
      particular parts you<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt; think are old/incorrect?<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks,<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt; kevin<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt; xfce mailing list<br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">&lt;mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">&lt;mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">&lt;mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;</a><br>
      &gt; &gt; &gt;
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce</a><br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt;     _______________________________________________<br>
      &gt; &gt;     xfce mailing list<br>
      &gt; &gt;     <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">&lt;mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">&lt;mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">&lt;mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;</a><br>
      &gt; &gt;    
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce</a><br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
      &gt; &gt; xfce mailing list<br>
      &gt; &gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">&lt;mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;</a><br>
      &gt; &gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce</a><br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;             _______________________________________________<br>
      &gt;             xfce mailing list<br>
      &gt;             <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">&lt;mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org&gt;</a><br>
      &gt;            
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce</a><br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
      &gt; xfce mailing list<br>
      &gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org">xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org</a><br>
      &gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce">https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce</a></span><br>
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