RE: [Fedora-directory-users] New filesystem layout for directory server and admin server files

[Bliss, Aaron]

We are currently using fds in production without any issues at all; at
first, management was a little skeptical about using software so
critical to production systems without the comfort of a support
contract, but after working out the pre-implementation bugs, the
reliability of the application speaks for itself; I can honestly say
that having all files in /opt/fedora-ds makes doing full backups,
restores and disaster recovery testing very straight forward; I simply
shutdown slapd and the admin server, tar up the directory, and startup
slapd and the admin server; very quick to do, no muss or fuss; taking
fds out of it's own directory would make my life much more difficult (as
far as backups, and dr testing are concerned); so from my point of view,
if I had a vote, I would say that if it's not broke, then don't fix it
:)

Aaron 

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Subject: Re: [Fedora-directory-users] New filesystem layout for
directory server and admin server files

Michael Chang <miranda(a)syndetic.org&gt; kirjoitti: 
>  
>  
>  You could always make a separate, FHS-specific package available and 
see
>  what people think.  If the votes are high enough in support of the
> new
>  layout then you could make a permanent switch. 
The problem here is assuming that FDS updates will eventually be pushed
into RHDS.

Judging by a good portion of the traffic on this list, a good majority
of the FDS users are still learning how to use an LDAP server, so they
likely don't understand or care enough to have an opinion about file
layout or why it matters in a package as large and complex as this one.

OTOH, the RHDS package is used for critical infrastructure in banks,
military, telecoms, etc. By the time those users notice the change and
it's ramifications, it will be too late for them to have their vote
(other than with their feet).

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[Fedora-directory-users] New filesystem layout for directory server and admin server files

[Jim Summers]

I second the motion here.  Having the directory server contained in one 
directory makes things much more straightforward and easy to verify.  Which is 
a great help for such a critical service as the directory server provides.

Thanks

Bliss, Aaron wrote:
>  We are currently using fds in production without any issues at all;
> at
>  first, management was a little skeptical about using software so
>  critical to production systems without the comfort of a support
>  contract, but after working out the pre-implementation bugs, the
>  reliability of the application speaks for itself; I can honestly say
>  that having all files in /opt/fedora-ds makes doing full backups,
>  restores and disaster recovery testing very straight forward; I simply
>  shutdown slapd and the admin server, tar up the directory, and startup
>  slapd and the admin server; very quick to do, no muss or fuss; taking
>  fds out of it's own directory would make my life much more difficult (as
>  far as backups, and dr testing are concerned); so from my point of view,
>  if I had a vote, I would say that if it's not broke, then don't fix it
>  :)
>  
>  Aaron 
>  
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: fedora-directory-users-bounces(a)redhat.com
>  [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
>  mj(a)sci.fi
>  Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:04 PM
>  To: General discussion list for the Fedora Directory server project.;
>  miranda(a)syndetic.org
>  Subject: Re: [Fedora-directory-users] New filesystem layout for
>  directory server and admin server files
>  
>  Michael Chang <miranda(a)syndetic.org&gt; kirjoitti: 
> >
> > You could always make a separate, FHS-specific package available and
>  see
> > what people think.  If the votes are high enough in support of the new
> > layout then you could make a permanent switch.
>  
>  The problem here is assuming that FDS updates will eventually be pushed
>  into RHDS.
>  
>  Judging by a good portion of the traffic on this list, a good majority
>  of the FDS users are still learning how to use an LDAP server, so they
>  likely don't understand or care enough to have an opinion about file
>  layout or why it matters in a package as large and complex as this one.
>  
>  OTOH, the RHDS package is used for critical infrastructure in banks,
>  military, telecoms, etc. By the time those users notice the change and
>  it's ramifications, it will be too late for them to have their vote
>  (other than with their feet).
>  
>  --
>  mike
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