aeolus-comm-mgmt November 2012

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Aeolus Tech Cabal: 20/11/2012 - Minutes
by Martyn Taylor 26 Nov '12

26 Nov '12

Please find Aeolus Tech Cabal initial meeting minutes below. Next weeks Agenda can be found here: http://openetherpad.org/AeolusTechnicalCabal You must add items to the etherpad if they are to be discussed in next Cabal meeting. Anyone wanting to add items to the Agenda then please do so by 26/11/2012. This will give people a chance to do some preparation. Next meeting 27/11/2012 Regards Martyn Aeolus Tech Cabal: 20/11/2012 Attendees * Tomas Sedovic * Martyn Taylor * Jason Guiditta * Scott Seago * Eric Healms * Michal Fojtik * Greg Blomquist * Jaramori Coufal Agenda Procedural Items *Meeting Format: Hugh will send format to the list before next Cabal Meeting* * Meeting Time: o 2pm Tuesday Recurring. o 1 hour max. o Items not covered will be raised in next meeting * Awesome o 1st Post: Martyn Taylor o Respoibilities + Ensure agenda is adequate + Ensure meetings move forward. * Secretary: o Weekly rotation: Next: Greg Blomquist o Responsibilites + Take Minutes + Distribute Minutes Technical API Resource Representation. 1. When shall we use full resource and minimal (link) resource representation in the API? 2. How should we allow client to access these resources? Martyn Proposed we represent full resources in all top level collections. Sub resources will be represented as a collection (with url) when one to many relationship is present. Sub resource collections will include minimal resources. Scott agreed this could solve many of the issues we are currently facing with the API and would be useful in the API. Greg mentioned that this could cause some issues with configure. But will seek advice from Eck Cabal voted in favour of proposal. Actions: * *Greg* will Confirm with Eck * *Martyn* will send mail to list further explaining the proposal. * *Martyn* will inform API contributers of changes. Instance State Machine 1. How do we represent state changes in the API? Particularly for instances, deployments and deployables. Michal spoke about using actions and links that represent state changes. It was agreed that this is not strictly RESTful. Discussion around pure REST v usability started, but the Cabal came to no conclusion on the matter. Michal advised us to take a look at the CIMI documentation (http://dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP0263_1.0.1.pdf) Since the API resembles ours in many ways. Actions: * CIMI investigation * Further discussion on the list. * Initial topic next meeting. (If unresolvable on list) Outstanding Agenda Items 1. API versioning - Supporting for versioning the API (Not for supporting multiple version) 1. URL v HTTP Header (Server HTTP header?) 2. e.g. http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-identity-service/2.0/content/Versio… 2. API Paging/Filtering/Sorting? 1. http://blog.apigee.com/detail/restful_api_design_can_your_api_give_develope… 3. API Race Conditions 4. Handling Deltacloud exceptions in Deltacloud - What need to be done to improve it.. 5. Callbacks in Deltacloud - When, how and who :-)

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Anyone located near Brussels? (Accomodations for FOSDEM)
by Tzu-Mainn Chen 26 Nov '12

26 Nov '12

Hey all, I guess the subject really says it all, but we're looking to see if anyone is located near Brussels and is willing to accommodate a person for FOSDEM (https://fosdem.org/2013/) Thanks, Tzu-Mainn Chen

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[RELEASE cabal] Weekly meeting repeats at Wed 1530 CET
by steve linabery 26 Nov '12

26 Nov '12

SSIA, but: Agreed at our meeting today that our weekly meeting time will be: Wednesday at 1530 CET Thanks all for attending. s|e

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Publicity Cabal minutes
by Angus Thomas 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

Minutes are here: https://redmine.aeolusproject.org/redmine/projects/aeolus/wiki/Publicity_Ca… Amateur psephologists will be dismayed to hear that there was a last-minute outbreak of consensus; Tzu-Mainn and Justin have agreed to divide the role of Awesome for this cabal between them. Tzu-Mainn has already sent out a notification for the next meeting, which is scheduled for 13:30 UTC on Novenber 27th. // <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/psephologist>

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Website Cabal Minutes, Nov. 20th 2012
by Tzu-Mainn Chen 20 Nov '12

20 Nov '12

November 20 Attendees: Matt Wagner (Awesome) Tzu-Mainn Chen Jiri Stransky Mo Morsi Francesco Vollero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWayFPCv0ro&feature=plcp ------------ - Quick review of github issues - broken Google links need to be investigated further (https://github.com/aeolusproject/aeolusproject.github.com/issues/13) - others will be discussed through github issues - Label issues in github (Bug, Enhancement, etc) - Presentations - wiki vs website? - presentations uploaded to static site because of potential wiki moves - wiki organization - will discuss over email - focus on website content before worrying about SEO - enhance about page - mission statement, high-level picture, link to projects - change developer's link to updating contributor's page - website cabal responsibilities vs publicity cabal responsibilities - publicity about content, website about infrastructure - overlap exists, but some people are on both cabals, can help coordinate - new documents directory structure in github for cabal minutes, presentations, etc - new website section for featured items? - actually, tag blog posts, aggregate ------------- - new issues: - update about page (https://github.com/aeolusproject/aeolusproject.github.com/issues/28) - change developer's link to contribute (https://github.com/aeolusproject/aeolusproject.github.com/issues/27) - "featured" page (https://github.com/aeolusproject/aeolusproject.github.com/issues/29)

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Aeolus Mission voting. VOTE REQUIRED BY NOVEMBER 19 PLEASE.
by Hugh O. Brock 20 Nov '12

20 Nov '12

Mission Statement Voting OK... I promised to schedule a vote for today and naturally I am behind. The good news is this means you guys have the weekend to think about this. A bit about process. Having been through a substantial mission statement exercise already, I'm not inclined to lengthen the process much further by accepting further tweaks. I am therefore going to exercise the mighty ><}}}*> one final time and reduce the nominees for Aeolus Mission Statement to three. I hope you all will view this less as an act of oppression and more as an act of getting the hell on with it :). In voting, I would urge you all to remember that a mission statement can and probably should be aspirational -- our software may not fill our mission today, but we intend that it will someday, and that new additions to Aeolus will be included or not based on how well they will help us fill the mission. The choices, then, are: 1. Aeolus mission: To provide superior tools and workflows for flexible construction, management, and monitoring of multi-instance systems across clouds. (This is the original version we concocted at the dev conf.) 2. Aeolus mission: To provide superior tools and workflows for flexible construction, management, and monitoring of multi-instance deployments across clouds. (Modifications by Giulio Fidente and Justin Clift, received at least one endorsement on list.) 3. Aeolus mission: "To provide open source tools for the management and monitoring of cloud based systems." (Alternative from Mo Morsi. Mo says: "Are we just focusing on 'multi-instance systems'? Isn't providing simple tools to build images and launch a single instance against any generic cloud provider part of Aeolus?") Vote for one by end of Monday, please. Thanks, --Hugh -- == Hugh Brock, hbrock(a)redhat.com == == Engineering Manager, Cloud BU == == Aeolus Project: Manage virtual infrastructure across clouds. == == http://aeolusproject.org == "I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." --Robert McCloskey

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Publicity Cabal - Next meeting
by Angus Thomas 20 Nov '12

20 Nov '12

The meeting will be at 13:30 UTC on November 21st I'll start a g+ hangout. Find me in #aeolus on freenode if there are any issues Standing agenda is here: https://redmine.aeolusproject.org/redmine/projects/aeolus/wiki/Publicity_Ca… In addition to the regular items, we will begin the cabal with the election of the Awesome. In the absence of a simple, reliable, secure, free voting app, the election will be by a simple show of hands on the hangout. (Anyone who can't participate, but wants to have their vote counted should contact me) So far, two people have let me know that they're interested in being the Awesome: Justin Clift and Tzu-Mainn Chen. Regards, Angus The soon-to-be-former Awesome

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Re: Aeolus Mission voting. VOTE REQUIRED BY NOVEMBER 19 PLEASE.
by Hugh O. Brock 16 Nov '12

16 Nov '12

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 04:27:55PM -0500, Mo Morsi wrote: > On 11/16/2012 03:28 PM, Hugh Brock wrote: > > Mission Statement Voting > > > > OK... I promised to schedule a vote for today and naturally I am > > behind. The good news is this means you guys have the weekend to think > > about this. > > > > A bit about process. Having been through a substantial mission > > statement exercise already, I'm not inclined to lengthen the process > > much further by accepting further tweaks. I am therefore going to > > exercise the mighty ><}}}*> one final time and reduce the nominees for > > Aeolus Mission Statement to three. I hope you all will view this less > > as an act of oppression and more as an act of getting the hell on with > > it :). > > > > In voting, I would urge you all to remember that a mission statement can > > and probably should be aspirational -- our software may not fill our > > mission today, but we intend that it will someday, and that new > > additions to Aeolus will be included or not based on how well they will > > help us fill the mission. > > > > The choices, then, are: > > > > 1. Aeolus mission: To provide superior tools and workflows for flexible > > construction, management, and monitoring of multi-instance systems > > across clouds. (This is the original version we concocted at the dev > > conf.) > > > > 2. Aeolus mission: To provide superior tools and workflows for flexible > > construction, management, and monitoring of multi-instance deployments > > across clouds. (Modifications by Giulio Fidente and Justin Clift, > > received at least one endorsement on list.) > > > > 3. Aeolus mission: "To provide open source tools for the management > > and monitoring of cloud based systems." (Alternative from Mo Morsi. Mo > > says: "Are we just focusing on 'multi-instance systems'? Isn't > > providing simple tools to build images and launch a single instance > > against any generic cloud provider part of Aeolus?") > +1 > > Thanks Hugh, is it in bad taste to vote for my own option? ;-) Nope :). If you wouldn't vote for it, don't say it. --H -- == Hugh Brock, hbrock(a)redhat.com == == Engineering Manager, Cloud BU == == Aeolus Project: Manage virtual infrastructure across clouds. == == http://aeolusproject.org == "I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." --Robert McCloskey

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Release Cabal meeting minutes (20121116)
by Giulio Fidente 16 Nov '12

16 Nov '12

hi, as per subject, minutes from the first release cabal meeting are here: https://redmine.aeolusproject.org/redmine/attachments/download/244/aeolus-m… this is also linked from the Release Cabal wiki page at: https://redmine.aeolusproject.org/redmine/projects/aeolus/wiki/Release_Cabal the full log is also available at: https://redmine.aeolusproject.org/redmine/attachments/245/aeolus-meeting.20… feedback welcomed -- Giulio Fidente

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aeolus project vs aeolus on g+
by Giulio Fidente 16 Nov '12

16 Nov '12

ehi there, as per subject aeolus seems to have two pages on g+, one is called 'aeolus project' and the second 'aeolus' https://plus.google.com/u/0/109718770418645820147/posts https://plus.google.com/u/0/116664377051307565388/posts any idea what is the purpose of having two? -- Giulio Fidente

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