ons 2010-11-10 klockan 17:10 +0100 skrev Christoph Wickert:
1. Fedora EMEA e.V. is being closed down.
I know, and is covered by what I said.
3. Long time contributors like Gerold are stepping down.
4. Others are not officially stepping down but simply resigning. I
don't want to name any names.
5. Several Fedora community websites were close down.
6. We hardly have any community members that are willing to run for
the board or Fesco.
7. We have nobody to coordinate the elections.
8. We nearly had no FUDCon in EMEA this year.
9. Fedora 14 has less features than any other Fedora release.
And all the above is by default the error of RedHat?
10. We have mailing list moderation, threads are getting closed
users get unsubscribed.
If those actions are not warranted by the actions of those users then we
have a problem.
11. We had brilliant community architect in EMEA and his job is
vacant for more than a year now. We are told that somebody new
is to come (at least for 20hrs/week), but so far, nothing has
Replacing someone brilliant is not easy.
12. We have groups in Fedora (made of of Red Hat employees) that
not listen to the community and do not even listen to the
That is a problem if true.
13. 2 Red Hat employees who never contributed to Fedora were
suddenly given commit access to more than 800 packages without
previous notification to the package owners. Thanks God this was
Can only account that to human error.
14. Other package owners got a formal letter from Red Hat that
had to hand some of their packages over to Red Hat employees as
they were to become part of RHEL6.
Yes I heard this, and yes it's somewhat troublesome.
> There is some noticeable friction relating to the Fedora
> seriously holds back certain aspects of the community, but I doubt the
> last words have been said on that.
So, what do you expect here? My experience has thought me that if there
is a change, it will not be for the better.
Lawyers seldom changes things to the better, but is also not the only
ones who have a say. And in this case I do suspect things will need to
go worse before other solutions are looked for. But I am still
optimistic that situation regarding use of trademark will be noticeably
better than today in a couple of years time.