I would call myself a lesser ambassador here. I am the Dartmouth
college campus ambassador. I give out live cds and do promotion when I
can, but alot of people here are uninterested. I gave a lecture to our
local foss community, they use debian. etc etc.
However, one of our foundations in friends. If every group which
accepts new friends for contributors starts putting up walls and
closing doors to help, we won't be making very many new friends.
That is all,
2010/12/14 Larry Cafiero <larry.cafiero(a)gmail.com>:
2010/12/14 María Leandro <tatica(a)fedoraproject.org>
> Several times we repeat ourselves "we must encourage people to join our
> comunity" and also things like "we accept everyone, so everyone can be an
> Ambassador" but I consider this a lie to them and to us.
I don't think this is quite true. If we, as Ambassadors, find people are
interested in promoting or helping Fedora, we encourage -- or should
encourage -- them to join us. Secondly, we don't accept everyone nor should
we accept everyone -- we reject a significant amount of applicants in NA
alone because, for some reason, they are in the determination of the mentor
not a good fit for the project.
> Not everyone can be an ambassador, and this are some of the points I have
> consider to think like that:
> we often receive request of applicants for the ambassadors team of users
> 1.- Have never contribute to the project
> 2.- Have never been at any FOSS activity
> 3.- Have been rejected of X communities with a not-good record
This is really a separate issue. Many people who want to join are new to
Linux/FOSS and may not have contributed to a project before, or may not live
near an event or activity they can get to. This has to be handled on a
case-by-case basis, and the level of participation depends on what an
Ambassador can do
More times than not, people use the Ambassador program as a stepping stone
to go into other areas of the Fedora Project.
> But we also have to face that, those who get the "Ambassadors title"
> 1.- Dissapear without say anything
> 2.- Dissapear without help our community
> 3.- Claim to be "Fedora workers"
> 4.- Dissapear but keep using the ＠fedoraproject.org
> So, Do we really have an obligation to accept everyone?
No, and in my opinion and experience, it has never been the case that we
have "an obligation to accept everyone."
> if not... Should we keep telling people that we will accept everyone to be
> Ambassador if we will/won't do it?
We don't, and we shouldn't tell them -- this is where the candidate/mentor
relationship comes in. A mentor can tell whether someone will be a good,
average or bad ambassador, and we don't approve the bad ones. Sometimes, the
mentor gets duped -- and in this case there's nothing that can be done
unless the new ambassador does something the mentor deems against the rules
and the ambassador is expelled.
> I think that the Ambassadors admission process need some rules besides the
> one that has (without be too excesive) to make a filter that can help us,
> Mentor, to provide a better guidance to those contributors that really
> deserve and want to be Fedora Ambassadors. So, I will write some few ideas
> and if you guys/girls are interested on give some feedback would be nice.
> (If you don't and the topic die here don't feel bad :) )
> 1.- Applicants must help to one of our 6 top teams 
> 2.- Applicants must help their local community, in case his/her city
> doesn't have a local community, she/he should try to build it.
> 3.- Applicants should at least attend to one FOSS event per year. (right
> now in all the country there are events, so this is not so crazy at all)
> 4.- Applicants should at least organize or help to organize a FOSS event.
This is an interesting list and I have no objection to any of them, although
if you have an ambassador in a country where there is no FOSS event, or no
FOSS event in their region (I'm specifically thinking Africa here), I think
number 3 is asking much for some who may want to promote Fedora/Linux/FOSS
but is not able to travel to an event. What I do want to say is that nearly
all ambassadors promote Fedora, Linux and FOSS at their own comfort level
and very few, if any, join with malicious intent.
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