Fedora Core 5 is going to be released in a month or so. We need to
understand better where we are heading towards and you can help. Lets
reverse the roles for a change. Play devil's advocate?. What is the best
criticisms that you can put forward on areas that Fedora needs to
improve? How do we improve on those?
Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
FUDCon Delhi 2006 was organized as part of LinuxAsia in Feb 9th 2006.
Though it is supposedly a business focused events it has been
overwhelmed by students and other developers interested in all sorts of
things. Foss.in still seems to do a better focusing on developers and
the community if thats where your interests are. We have a full day of
Fedora speeches and presentations on the main auditorium and I believe
we did a decent job with it in getting a number of people interested and
some of them have even show up here as Fedora Ambassadors. The
auditorium was generally packed during the day and getting thinner in
the day leading to low amount of crowd during the end of the day Fedora
BOF which otherwise might have turned out to be more interesting in
The original startover from Venky and Alolita was fairly generic
followed by a inspiration speech from Greg Dek. Chris Blizzard who leads
the desktop team within Red Hat talked about the desktop changes and
gaps in two different presentations. Kishore Bhargava gave a update on
what was happening within the community in terms of LUG's and open
source developers in India. Sankarshan from Red Hat Bangalore rehashed
my general introduction presentation on Fedora with his own interesting
quirks. Colin Charles who used to lead the Fedora marketing effort is
now on MySQL as the community manager and was fairly upbeat on MySQL and
Fedora presentation with changes like MySQL 5 finally landing in Fedora
Core 5. Ramakrishna Reddy from the Red Hat Engineering team and my
office colleague Ankit Patel, language maintainer - Gujarati gave a
combined presentation on L10N which was well received. Satish Mohan had
an update on what Red Hat Engineering has been doing in Bangalore which
includes working on odd devices such as dotmatrix printers and scanners
(http://oss-drivers.sourceforge.net/) that organizations refuse to move
off from. I had to brush over my presentation rapidly to leave room for
the final panel discussion on Fedora since Klaus Knopper of Knoppix fame
took his own time during noon for a verbose and broad presentation on
where we are heading towards in terms of appliances, software patents
and such. The BOF had various ideas thrown about back and forth between
the audience and people in the stage and many thought it went well.
Pics and videos are on the pipeline. Anyone has them, get them out.
We had a Fedora booth running on all three days - 8,9 and 10th in
LinuxAsia manned by many people in Red Hat Delhi and Bangalore offices
attracting hundreds of people in a daily basis. Tejas was doing the
videos. Kevin Verma showed up everywhere. We gave away thousands of
goodies like Free DVD's of Fedora Core 4 an t-shirts. There were many
introductory basic questions around how Fedora relates to RHEL, the
licensing terms, how we sustain it, the schedule and roadmaps. There is
a lot of interest and goodwill in the project out there which could be
turn out into contributions if we figure out more means to do it.
I think we came away with the idea that driving changes towards getting
individual CD's for people on low bandwidth connections and Live CD
would be useful. The traditional way of throwing away packages to slim
down Fedora wouldnt work for us since we already have a large existing
userbase to worry about. Figuring out a reorganization that does what we
are already doing for the existing users while giving a desktop or
server or any other odd ball combination within individual CD's with the
help of tools like Kadischi seems to be the way forward.
We havent been doing a good job in getting users aware of the existing
features or the changes we helped drive within Fedora. The handout that
we gave way on the Fedora stall helped in a large way towards that in
the conference though we might have included that in the LinuxAsia kit
too.We just have to keep doing what we are doing and use the material
that piles up on a regular basis and organize it. The good thing in
Fedora is that we get to do it every six months or so and every new
release gets a lots of attention in the form of downloads, new users,
negative criticisms and praise. Helping the community involved in a more
open fashion and communicating both within the project and to the
interested users and everyone out there is what we need and what are
going to continue doing. Others feel free to pitch in with their own
Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers
I think im going to write a lot lol.
Ok an Ubuntu marketing agent told me about their idea of having Ubuntu
No, its not about installing Ubuntu in the computers but to lend Open
source cds to their subscribed users. Actually they copied it from
Personally its a wonderful idea because having CDS in libraries will
affect the complete newbies mind set of fear towards linux.
Considering the fact that librairies is a body of trust.
This is mostly an activity done by the lug. Of course if we
ambassadors provide enough materials/translation to.
Im eager to do it right away in Strasbourg. But comparing to another
distros like ubuntu,suse,etc they already have enough materials in
their pocket. Example, live cds. I prefer to wait for Fedora to catch
up with materials.
Let's take for example, Fedora. If a lug happens to realise this
project. Among other distros we will only have handouts and Fedora
DVDs. Meanwhile students or anyone will prefer to give a try to live
cds, leaving Fedora behind. Saying that this particular live distro is
based on Fedora isn't enough for the complete newbies. It would rather
be useless. If someone tried the "official" fedora LIVE cd if he/she
likes it he/she can easily get the install DVD for free for their
local lug or lug ambassador or from the library directly.
Since in the last 3 meetings (see
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule ) we didn't really
progress in Emails, funds, Schwag because we are waiting for
additional info. I suggest we talk and plan about this idea. I know
ambassadors from India or Brazil will have alot to say :))
I know we (majority)ambassadors we only popped in during meetings
hours, talk and talk. This sounds like acting. Its time to move A55 :)
for REAL action.
The structure of the ambassadors meeting is usually this:
1) Discuss all the items in FedoraEvents
2) Continue with discussions of general ambassadors stuff...
I propose that we switch the two around, having fedora events at the
this has the obvious advantages:
Ambassadors not attending any events soon need not wait around
People who are late will come in for their events. Lots of people were
late for the last meeting, which badly dis-structured the meeting,
especially when event owners missed their event, and we had to re-open
And the following disadvantage:
We may spend hours arguing about the common stuff, and run out of time
before we can get to the events.
I guess the SC will have to watch the above and/or set a fixed time
limit of (say) 30 min.
Tejas Dinkar - tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com
Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.
Fedora Ambassadors weekly meeting: 2006-02-16 1400 UTC
Next meeting: 2006-02-23 2200 UTC
1 Review upcoming events
Feb 25, 2006 Fedora Day The first day in The Netherlands to
promote Fedora and to support new users. Hengelo (GLD), The
Netherlands ThijsHulshof http://www.fedora-linux.nl/bijeenkomst
Thijs will organise a small event for people interested in Fedora /
Linux, Fedora presentations and install fest. Thijs_H is advertising
on his website. +/-30 subscribtions
Feb 25-26, 2006 FOSDEM The sixth Free and Open source Software
Developers' European Meeting in Brussel -Belgium-
http://www.fosdem.org/2006 FredericHornain Reserved Fedora Stand
Fred not in meeting -- will report on the list
Mar 13-16, 2006 Jornada de Divulgación Científica y Tecnológica A
whole day organized for an Recognized University in Colombia for
conferences on subjects related to Open Source Software as well as
telecommunications, medical artificial intelligence and computer
science. It will have universities of the country and the world.
http://www.sistemasunbosque.edu.co and http://www.equisl.org
JoseTarazona has a confirmation for a stand there and also time for a conference
JoseTarazona wants to know if there is any chance for someone to give
a videoconference too.
right now he will be on the stand and at night I will give the
conference about Fedora. that will help to show students the
commitment of Fedora members and help us to recruit some developers
and many enthusiasts.
tchung: no, I don't think so we discuss the event via IRC and List
puneet_batura: i fully agree with jose in this. but if video
conferencing is not available then let us look ofr other alternatives
Mar 16-18, 2006 Free Desktop Event Its the first year of this
event, the focus its about companys using desktops with Linux/Open
Source. http://www.desktoplivre.org.br MauricioPretto (?) ?
barz is chasing Mauricio, but also know he's going for a long trip.
Will double-check if he still can make it. BTW, Brazilian Ambassadors
have been focusing on local website and a big local event, FISL, where
other sth american representatives will be present
Mauricio is not present. Will report on the list.
Apr 3-6, 2006 LinuxWorld Boston 2006 Boston, MA, USA See
LinuxWorld/LinuxWorldBoston2006. JackAboutboul MatthewMiller He's
confirmed :) Apr 7, 2006 FUDCon Boston 2006 Boston, MA, USA:
Sequel to the first FUDCon.
See FUDCon/FUDConBoston2006. MatthewMiller JackAboutboul help
wanted. Greg and Alex will support wherever they can.
Jack will be there.
mattdm is not going to go to any sessions at the conference itself, so
he can hang out at the booth pretty much all the time, in fact
mattdm is not attending the conference proper. (It's expensive!) Can
RH get him a free exhibit floor pass?
mattdm can do short presentations. What sort of resources are there
likely to be at the booth?
tchung wants to know: Is there any possibility for reimbersement if I
use my own budget to attend FUDCon Boston?
lxmaier: tchung: i guess there is some chance for that, especially if
you volunteer to talk at the FUDCon
Apr 19-22, 2006 FISL 7.0 Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
7th International Free Software Forum.
This is the biggest conference for IT Infrastructure and Developers
inBrazil. Lot of developers communities in this meetings and
manylectures, in 6 auditoriums. In 2005, FISL 6.0 had 4,414 attendees
from11 countries and almost every Brazilian state.
barz got it
barz: FISL, on behalf of Rodrigo: all events - presentation and
community event proposals - have been approved! working on
presentation, free pass 4 speakers, DVDs request sent to FAMSCO,
producing banner, thinking of other collateral for event and writing
comprehensive proposal 2 make sure we don't miss any detail. we wanna
talk on FC generally, bring FC5 improvements, explain community devel,
call for contributions and try to link that all with the digital
divide, serious issue in Brazil.
May 3-6, 2006 LinuxTag/FUDCon Wiesbaden 2006 Wiesbaden, Germany -
See FUDCon/FUDConWiesbaden2006 GeroldKassube
FlorianBrand help wanted and needed. afaik there should be the next
FUDCon similiar to the second FUDCon we ever had FUDCon/FUDCon2
GeroldKa: we've got the mail from the organisator that our booth
request will be decided till February 20th, so we've to wait what's
the decision. we (FlorianBrand, JensKuehnel and me) are preparing a
contest. ChitleshGoorah will also hold a talk for KADISCHI. so imho,
at the moment it's all in the right way.
ChitleshGoorah: Ill be present too with GeroldKa. I'll burn free some
fedora based live cds as stated in the wiki
GeroldKa: a few days ago I received the mail from a friend of mine;
developer at debian. Debian will not participate the Linuxtag in
Wiesbaden. so it's more important for us to get an absolutely great
show and event
June 23-25, 2006 Journée du Libre 4 Strasbourg, France. This
event is intended for the promotion of open source softwares and
linux. There will also be conferences about various open source topics
ChitleshGoorah First It coincides with my trip to Mauritius. It is
possible to sell Fedora goodies (T-shirts for example) for fund
raising. Alone it will be difficult for me to handle. Booth Reserved
ChitleshGoorah: the booth is reserved. Ive postponed my trip to
Mauritius. I'll be present! I'M CALLING FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO MAKE
A CONFERENCE ON FEDORA, because ill be at the booth,
and there must be someelse with the conference
GeroldKa: I'll try to attend then, but I don't speak french
FedoraLibraries - Inform about this project. Bring up with some ideas.
What do we lack for this project
ChitleshGoorah Fedora Libraries : Ill write more about it soon on
Fedoranews in order to promote it
Presentations for Ambassadors - We need to provide Ambassadors with
some slide decks for various presentations.
ChitleshGoorah Presentation on Kadischi is in Progress here
barz tchung: we r still preparing ooimpress 4 FISL, but will take us
some more time
puneet_batura ok guys catch up with u later... :)
ChitleshGoorah a french flyer is under developpement with MrTom too
tchung I saw 3-fold hand out from LinuxAsia/FUDCon. This will be great
for any Linux Event
Standard Ambassadors kit
We need a standard "kit" for all Ambassadors; DVDs, promotional
materials, and schwag.
tchung: As far as I know Greg is putting together a kit for
Ambassadors as much as $100 worth
Unidentified Ambassador: does anybody know where can i get the red or
blue hat in fedora style from? That'd be helpful in promoting Fedora
lxmaier: this is URGENT:
we do not EVER use fedora hats to promote Fedora
Fedora =! fedora hat
not red, not blue, not at all
Inidentified Ambassador: lxmaier i know, but it's related to Fedora's
lxmaier: no discussion of fedora hats will change this
lxmaier: i am sorry, but it is our brand guideline Number One: No fedora hats
tchung: this is a specific request from Red Hat not to use Fedora Hat
in our project
lxmaier: it is a matter of highest priority that all ambassadors be
aware and follow the brand guidelines
Check out the new content on Fedora Project page! http://fedoraproject.org
I have not tested Kadischi yet (lack of time and hardware), but I will
do it soon.
Some friends have the CVS port blocked (firewall), so I mirrored
Kadischi, at least as long as CVS is the only possibilities to
No spec file available yet?
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