I have a question in connection with upcoming Fedora Core Open Days.
It'll be unpossible to send us Fedora DVDs with the new FC5. Hence my
question: will it possible to download Fedora Core 5 before the official
release, I mean 16-17 march. We would burn it on our owns and could hand
out during FCOD. Maybe it could be possible to give us acccess to some
server which we could download the new Fedora from?
Sorry I am cross posting this between the marketing list and ambassadors
list. Please reply on the marketing list if you would.
I am of the opinion that the marketing project has been allowed to die
and be carelessly replaced by the Ambassadors project that was born from
the marketing project.
I see that we can do things several ways. We can continue on ignoring
the Fedora community posting requests for input to the private
ambassadors list that a small number will ever see or we can be sure to
become active in the marketing list involving the community as a whole
in how Fedora is marketed.
Why have the private list?
The privacy of the Ambassadors list has a purpose and should be
maintained in my opinion. One of the things it was designed to do is
help protect the limited advertising resources of the Foundation by
preventing the pilfering of media and other goodies like t-shirts.
However much of the "noise" on this list in the past could have been
better with community input from the marketing list.
What can the marketing list bring that the ambassadors can not?
The marketing list can bring greater visibility from the community by
being a public sounding board for ideas. Many of these ideas can be
hashed out in public, refined in private and still have the "splash"
that may be desired. I would urge all ambassadors to be part of the
greater marketing list and also to avoid cross posting of information
between the lists unless it is absolutely needed.
Fedora is a community driven project, in fact community may very well be
the most important part of Fedora. If the Ambassadors are to take over
all the marketing in private we are in my opinion destined for failure.
We will have removed the community from the drivers seat and made it a
second class passenger.
Robert 'Bob' Jensen <marketing-list(a)fedoralinks.org>
Fedora Marketing Projects
As the new fc5 release will come out next week i am pretty sure that
irc support questions will reach its peaks on the releaseday to the
end of the upcoming weekend, so i decided to take the next week off
work and will be (as earlier when i was less involved) available for
support on irc with a guess rate of around 12 hours/day until the end
of the weekend after the upcoming fc5 release to support and
channelize bug reports with proper debug infos towards bugzilla.
In my eyes "presence" and "help" is a very good marketing factor when
it comes especially to new but generally computer experienced end
users. Mouth to mouth propaganda is the most effective advertizing you
can get in my eyes. Hence why i report this to this list at all.
>From my personal experience most users that survive the first few
weeks will stay atleast for a while with what they get since we all
know fedora is a really sweet desktop product.
I know there are various people offering good help on the irc support
channel but i ask myself if it would help to "organize" that more.
Like with a "voluntarys schedule".
Whats your opinion about that?
17:00:15 -- Meeting start
Schedule posted on: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule
item 1: Review upcoming events (90 days)
Mar 12, 2006 Local organisation, AREL France, Revin:
Explanation of "what is a free software?" + Demo of FC5 with Kadischi
+ Flyers. This event is announced here on the agenda du libre website
Status: Everything is ready from the event organizer
MrTom: well i just learned about this event this week... but
everything seems to be ok for the moment. i won't be able to take my
computer and i will only be able to show fedora through livecd. i will
use the flyer in french, for the media it's far too late. it will be a
booth for a complete organisation, not only for fedora. the
organisation will promote free software and i will promote fc among
MrTom: the local lug does not exist yet on this area in France, but
people are working on it
MrTom: AREL is an organisation that works for education and
entertainment. they are organising the event on sunday, which will
bring many organisation of the area
MrTom: i'll take photos as in FOSDEM, as much as i can
Mar 13-16, 2006 Jornada de Divulgacion Bogota, Colombia - A whole
day organized for an Recognized University in Colombia for conferences
on subjects related to Open Source Software as well as
telecommunications, medical artificial intelligence and computer
science. It will have universities of the country and the world.
http://www.sistemasunbosque.edu.co and http://www.equisl.org
Owner not present
Mar 18-19, 2006 Fedora Core Open Days: The first event of this kind
in Poland. It will be a conference connected with users and
sympathizers meeting, setting Fedora promotion as a main goal. Rybnik,
Owner: MateuszHalaba, PawelSadowski
If anyone is interested in participating, please contact one of the
Official site: http://fcod.b7.pl
pawel and mattheusz both not present
Mar 18-19, 2006 glugc FLOSS Meet 2006 GNU/Linux Users Group Calicut
(glugc) (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glugc ) has been working inside
the campus to promote FOSS. glugc successfully conducted FLOSS Meet
2005, a seminar on Free/Libre and Open Source Software. NIT Calicut is
participating in FOSS Month 2006 (glugc FLOSS Meet 2006 will be a part
of the FOSS Month celebrations).
Kushal will conduct the BoF
kushal is not present
Mar 25, 2006 FLISOL 2006 (Brazil - DF) FLISOL stands as
Latin-America's Free Software Installation Festival
(http://test.installfest.info/FliSol), and aims to install as many
systems with Linux and free software. Also, there is minu-courses and
speakings. It happens in many cities and countries and happens in the
HugoCisneiros will present a talk about the Fedora Project and will
distribute Fedora LiveCDs in Brasilia, DF (local page)
Owner not present
Apr 3-6, 2006 LinuxWorld Boston 2006 Boston, MA, USA -
LinuxWorld US: See LinuxWorld/LinuxWorldBoston2006.
Owners: MatthewMiller, JackAboutboul
Owners will contact JesseKeating or local PC vendor about hardware
needed for the booth.
Matthew will conatct JackAboutboul about registering for free booth.
Apr 7, 2006 FUDCon Boston 2006 Boston, MA, USA - Sequel to the
first FUDCon: See FUDCon/FUDConBoston2006
Owners: MatthewMiller, JackAboutboul
We're still looking for speakers and papers. Help wanted. Greg and
Alex will support wherever they can.
In absense of owners, gregdek_home will give an update
gregdek_home: We've got a full slate of speakers. Just need to update
the page accordingly and start advertising. If Jack doesn't pick this
up in the next day or two, I've got it. LWCE is all set too.
tchung: I've been working with Jack on Wiki page so I'll contact him
again for the Schedule
Apr 11, 2006 Local LUG - Campux France, Lille.
Have to translate presentation, and don't think i need any schwag.
20-25 people will be attending.
MrTom: ok, aurelien bompard send me his french presentation. i will
certainly switch to the new template we had on the list. i don't think
new fc5 media will be ready for this date, if they can, i may ask for
some. however, it will be the same receipe, flyers, livecd ... :) if
media are not available i'll burn some dvd myself
Apr 19-22, 2006 FISL 7.0 Porto Alegre, RS, Brazil - 7th
International Free Software Forum: This is the biggest conference for
IT Infrastructure and Developers in Brazil. See FISL for more
See FISL for status.
rodrigo isn't present and nobody from his region is
May 3-6, 2006 LinuxTag/FUDCon Wiesbaden 2006 Wiesbaden, Germany -
LinuxTag Germany: See FUDCon/FUDConWiesbaden2006
Owners: GeroldKassube, FlorianBrand
Help wanted and needed
GeroldKa: we don't have the booth really approved by Linuxtag, and
I'm not really sure; we should attend
lxmaier: tchung: linuxtag is putting us under pressure to make sure
red hat pays up. we are working to some funding from rhat. and also i
have a contact to a large corporation, hope they will throw us a chunk
of money too
lxmaier: There is some good new though: I have a tentative okay for
holding the FUDCon at the Heinrich Heine University of
Duesseldorf--which leaves us with more options, shall LinuxTag decide
to be uncooperative.
GeroldKa: for me it's very difficult to have the contact to Linuxtag,
because they don't know me and they want to see money from Red Hat.
and I belive if they don't see money from Red Hat they'll say "you're
not a free project."
gregdek_home: We need to make a call. And it sounds like LinuxTag is
going to be an Ubuntu love fest anyway. Would we rather try to put on
a Fedora-only event?
ke4qqq: typically in the US when con organizers behave badly like
that forking the event normally takes care of things.
gregdek_home: We should not have our event on the same date though.
We don't want to make the community choose--but we do want our own
event, our own way, and I don't think we should submit to being
GeroldKa: debian is also not at Linuxtag, and opensuse will also not
be registered till today. They have invited 50 open source projects,
but not OpenSuse, Novell, Debian, Fedora, Red Hat
May 15-16, 2006 LinuxWorld Italy 2006 Milan, Italy - LinuxWorld Italy
Owners: FrancescoUgolini, AndreaMaurizioGnerre
Andrea has contacted the organization of the event. They moved to a
sponsorized event format. I have prices for that if anybody is
FrancescoUgolini: i've talk with maurizio, i don't know some of
specifics, i've only started to talk about the
problem, but we are discussing about this event. i will tell about
this event in the m-list in a few days
lxmaier: we are finished with the events for the next 90 days
Promotional material for Kadischi
Time-critical. Within 10 days maximum. Will have to be ready for FC5
Compilation of material like presentations, help and videos would be
ke4qqq: 2 videos are
done....http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Videos and the balance
should be up tonight. additional promotional materials for inclusion
on the livecd will hopefully be up for review tonight/tomorrow morning
A tour at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tours/FedoraCore5
Owners: RahulSundaram, FrancescoUgolini, and anyone interested
Time critical. Within 10 days maximum. Will have to be ready for FC5.
FrancescoUgolini: i have post the banner in the m-list, i'm working
on it. If is possible i would to know if it's the good way. I will
publish my graphics on the wiki after i finsh to install the system
Shortly after FC5 release: Announce and conduct a short video contest.
What we need to figure out:
- Format (currently OGG, all agree?)
- Max file size (currently 10M, all agree?)
- Submission guidelines (AlexMaier needs to draft)
- Prize (no idea, but needs to be spiffy and not too expensive)
lxmaier: i have a half-finished draft i need to finish and submit to the list.
A discussion about movie requirements was held--to be continued on the list
Schwag pipeline and a Standard Ambassadors Survival Kit
End of March 2006: Need to make sure that the schwag pipeline is
functional. This is separate from the actual stuff we send; this is
just making sure that the stuff we send actually gets to the places it
needs to go. We need a standard "kit" for all Ambassadors; DVDs,
promotional materials, and schwag
gregdek_home stepped out
Standard design elements for all Fedora pages
April 1, 2006: Need to create a set of design elements such as
backgrounds, icons, CSS style sheets, etc for use across all
Fedora-affilliated pages to improve the brand identity
lxmaier: i have it all almost done. we will soon have photoshop files
for a set of unified icons and buttons and backgrounds and such for
use on all fedora pages. we will edit them and store on our site for
download as pngs or so. we also plan to create a suggested css style
BobJensen: what does this have to do with Ambassadors?
lxmaier: it has to do with ambassadors who run fedora pages on their
own, soon they will be able to make their pages look like fedora
BobJensen: shouldn't such a project be addressed by the marketing
list for input?
lxmaier: okay, we'll move this to the list
lxmaier: we have covered all topics for which the owners were present.
the meeting is officially adjourned at 18:05:48
Its great to see the flurry of new activity in the list and
contributions but if you are collecting feedback or presenting any
material to the list, dont send in attachments. It would be good to
upload them in your personal space in any website or within the Fedora
project wiki and then drop in a link to the list. Its a good idea not to
fill in people's mail boxes with huge attachments and it would generally
be better for quick feedback to send in links instead. Thanks.
based on the graphics "some hours" ago which were send by David Barzilay
I created a small Impress template ...
Feel free for use it if you want to ...
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I just wanted to have u r valuable feedback on a thought regarding:
Since we all are associated with Linux Users Group in one way or the other
hence we can have local LUGS meeting scheduled on the IRCs ( thats what i
have named as virtual meet!) and can invite other countries fedora
ambassadors to those virtual meets to spread Fedora there like a guest
speaker. So everytime there's a new fedora ambassador(key attraction)
joining in to give his/her valuable views . I think that will make LUGS more
functional and we can reach more and more people with the word FEDORA at
Waiting for your valuable feedbacks.....
Open Source Developer
Following the promotional material on the livecd, and refering to a
previous mailing discussion, we decided to add promotional material of
Fedora on the desktop of the fedora live cd (beta)
We, DavidNalley and I decided to work on 2 items:
item 1 : videos
DavidNalley will come with some updates soon.
item 2 : select appropriate presentations/handouts to display on the
livecd and the kadischi impress document.
concerning this part, Ive chosen the handouts in french and english
as well as greg's linuxasia presentation. by the way, that
presentation is great :) gregdek +1
I was thinking about to add only the presentations made on 2006 ! what
do you think knowing the fact that its a FC5 livecd?
If translators can translate the handouts in other languages it would
be great too :)
Too many materials would burst a 700mb CD :( So we must choose the
If I missed some important materials, do point them to me because I
would that the livecd might be helpful to any ambassador during their
conference or events/shows.
here is a screenshot of how it will be:
but as you can see the index.html file is not so pretty, im calling
for "visual" enhancements :)
this index.html will contain links of videos, handouts and
presentations (in pdf) as you can see .
if anyone wants share an enhanced index.html with more relevant
contents, she/he is welcome. (ive attached my lame index.html to this
Im looking forward to upload another livecd by tomorrow night (im not
promising anything). an english version this times :) I can see many
will smile :)
Yes, there are some updates compared to the first beta, I don't know
whether you tried it or not.
ps: im not uploading my fedora approuved logo. I think you do have one