FAmSCo Meeting - IRC Log 2008-05-21
by Fabian Affolter
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<fabian_a> 1. 2nd Quarter Budget (see Jeffrey mail and sheet)
<fabian_a> 2. Release events status (+ RE contest)
<fabian_a> 3. Ambassadors Project status
<fabian_a> 4. Rules and more (just a reminder for everyone at FAmSCo)
<fabian_a> 5. Wiki migration
<fabian_a> 6. t.b.d.
<iWolf> I can cover budget, if people want.
<fabian_a> do we want to start now?
<jmbuser> +1
<iWolf> +1
<MrTom> let's go
<fabian_a> ok...where is Rodrigo?
<fabian_a> iWolf: please start with budget
<iWolf> Okay....
<iWolf> Max updated the spreadsheet i created earlier in the week, we
come in just under the $12,000 USD.
<iWolf> Everyone should have the spreadsheet in the email Max sent.
<RodrigoPadula> i'm here!
<iWolf> Everything on it looks good to me, I think we (famsco) just need
to approve it, or make comments/suggest changes.
<iWolf> Since we are missing the chair, we might want to do a mailing
list vote?
<iWolf> Questions? Comments?
<iWolf> eof
<RodrigoPadula> !
<RodrigoPadula> yesterday i talk with the LATAM group
<RodrigoPadula> probably we will have new events do add in this spreadsheet
<RodrigoPadula> but... probably...
<RodrigoPadula> so, we can vote now
<iWolf> Has everyone had a chance to look at the new spreadsheet?
<RodrigoPadula> eof
<MrTom> yes for me
<MrTom> i find it good, however i don't know where Max will find the
money for the livecd i asked for
<fugolini> i'm really sorry but the train had a 2h of delay
<fugolini> i'm just arrived at home
<MrTom> no pb fugolini
<MrTom> we started 10 min ago
<iWolf> fugolini: no worries, fabian_a was just getting us started -
covering budget now
<fugolini> ok, let me go to refresh my face
<iWolf> MrTom: were they going to get you some media from the LinuxTag
leftovers?
<MrTom> I don't think so
<iWolf> hhmm, is this for your release party?
<MrTom> but i'm not sure as well that max gave the final approval about it
<MrTom> for the release party and for Mont de Marsant in fact
<fugolini> fabian_a: you can continue leading the meeting
<iWolf> MrTom: ah, we have $1000USD set aside for the Mont De Marsant in
the spreadsheet.
<iWolf> Will that help?
<MrTom> yes, but half of it would get lost in the live cd
<fabian_a> fugolini: we just go through the agenda point by
point...there is not much to lead
<MrTom> i hope, i'll wait for Max thoughts about it
<MrTom> because he talked about extras $500 for them, then I don't
really know
<iWolf> MrTom: sounds good, there is a little bit extra in the budget,
maybe spread it across what we have allocated for you now, coupled with
leftovers from LinuTag, etc.
<MrTom> yes
<fugolini> iWolf: +1
<iWolf> So, are people comfortable voting on teh most recent budget Max
posted this morning?
<iWolf> I don't want to rush it, but I also want to clear it off the
plate if people are in agreement.
<jmbuser> Looks good to me
<MrTom> as well for me
<fabian_a> for me too
<RodrigoPadula> +1
<iWolf> +1 from me
<fugolini> +1 too
<iWolf> Great! So Q2 budget is approved.
<iWolf> That should be it on the budget agenda for this week then.
<iWolf> fabian_a: back to you.
<fabian_a> ok, point 2: release events status and contest
<iWolf> I guess that's me again.... :)
<iWolf> We've been seeing lots of event reports, sounds like there have
been some good events going on and lots of coverage.
<iWolf> the contest ends next Tuesday.
<iWolf> After that, I will compile a list of report links and mail the
famsco list
<iWolf> for discussion on who we award the laptop bag to.
<iWolf> eof
<fugolini> ok
<fugolini> !
<RodrigoPadula> i'm organizing the Brazilian Release Party to the next
week, where im thinking to create the Rio de Janeiro Fedora LUG
<fugolini> may i?
<RodrigoPadula> i will use this party to recruit new colaborators and
members to the local user group
<RodrigoPadula> eof
<fugolini> Just a thing ...
<fugolini> All the release events just done had great reports and, as i
could see, they were sucessfully
<fugolini> there are others so far, and i'm sure they will be sucessfull
<fugolini> what i want to say, is that we need to store all the knoledge
from this first expereince
<fugolini> to improve the next Release Events, maybe sharing with
marketing project
<fugolini> our ideas etc. to have a more deep media cover
<fugolini> i think they could be another way to have a contact with
people and it could became a milestone for the future
<fugolini> eof
<jmbuser> !
<fugolini> i think you can talk
<jmbuser> My impression is that the press coverage was pretty good for
this release with many positive articles
<fabian_a> jmbuser: sorry
<jmbuser> I also noticed that local events were also covered by their
local newspapers
<jmbuser> This is great publicity
<jmbuser> eof
<fugolini> http://punto-informatico.it/p.aspx?id=2295086 --> this is an
example :)
<fugolini> i'm saying this because i see how far marketing project is going
<fugolini> i think it could be a helpfull hand, yes, i think people
worked and are working great, without doubtr
<fugolini> eof
<fabian_a> are we done with release events status?
<iWolf> fabian_a: i am.
<fugolini> yes
<RodrigoPadula> yes
<fabian_a> ok, next point. Ambassadors Project status
<fugolini> !
<fabian_a> fugolini,
<fugolini> thank you
<fugolini> We are near the end of the first warter and i want to ask FAmSCo
<fugolini> to express what they think it's necessary to improve in the
community
<fugolini> max suggested to work on Apac
<fugolini> and i think he was right, but i hope you'll give me more infos
<RodrigoPadula> Apac ??
<fugolini> what you think we and i miss
<fugolini> and what we could improve
<fugolini> RodrigoPadula: why?
<RodrigoPadula> what is Apac ?
<jmbuser> APAC = Asia Pacific
<RodrigoPadula> ohh sorry
<fugolini> sorry, i didn't understand
<fugolini> just all
<fugolini> i hope this discussion could start here and could continue in
the list
<fugolini> eof
<RodrigoPadula> !
<fabian_a> RodrigoPadula,
<RodrigoPadula> i think not only APAC.. but CARIBEAN, and many other
regions where the number of ambassors is litle
<RodrigoPadula> for me, we need to see in the ambassadors list where we
need to improve the project
<RodrigoPadula> for me .. the first step is recruit ambassadors in this
areas
<RodrigoPadula> im doing it in Brazil and others countries in latin america
<RodrigoPadula> eof
<fugolini> !
<fugolini> i just wrote an email asking people feedbacks, if you desire
an explicit mail i could write it. just tell me
<fabian_a> i think that we need to work in every region because a lot of
idle or inactive ambassadors in the country list doesn't reflect a big
community
<iWolf> fabian_a: +1
<RodrigoPadula> it's other problem!
<RodrigoPadula> one problem is: we dont have ambassadors
<fabian_a> IMHO, every member of famsco should work in his area and give
a hand to apac
<fugolini> i think, meanwhile, we have to give a reason to people to
work (and to recruit new ones)
<RodrigoPadula> other problem is : we have but they dont work!
<RodrigoPadula> in my opnion.. some ambassador need to be fired hehehe
<fugolini> no, nobody was hired
<fugolini> so nobody could be fired
<iWolf> fugolini: +1
<jmbuser> +1
<fabian_a> we have to give them a reason to work...as an ambassadors you
are not an employee ;-)
<fugolini> i think we could invite people with any kind of activities
<fugolini> e.g. Release Party are a simple way to tell people: you can
enjoy yourself spreading the Fedora voice
<RodrigoPadula> many people join us to see names on the list
<RodrigoPadula> as ambassadors
<RodrigoPadula> i have another vision of the Ambassadors Project
<fugolini> RodrigoPadula: probably you are right, but i think we have to
see the other side of the glass (not the empty one)
<RodrigoPadula> if we have great ambassador... it's sounds good to the
project
<RodrigoPadula> but names in the list.. not sounds goog
<RodrigoPadula> good
<fugolini> but we have great ambassadors, and i can tell you the names,
(you see them in the list, in the planet, in the real life meeting etc)
<RodrigoPadula> yes
<fugolini> RodrigoPadula: this is a cons of a community made by volunteers
<RodrigoPadula> i thinks it's 10% of all ambassadors
<RodrigoPadula> for you what is a volunteer ?
<fugolini> not in the military sense
<RodrigoPadula> we have some ghosts on the ambassadors list
<Southern_Gentlem> !
<fugolini> but ?if you close the door, people whould be scared
<fugolini> Southern_Gentlem:
<fugolini> osp sorry fabian_a
<fugolini> i forget
<Southern_Gentlem> RodrigoPadula, people volunteer to give their time,
sometimes people need to be guided to the next tasks, or they get bored
<RodrigoPadula> no... i'm not talking to close the door
<Southern_Gentlem> and there has been talk of clearing out the
ambassadors list before and it ticked alot of the good ambassador off eof
<fabian_a> we have some ghosts but we are maybe able to bring this
ghosts back to live
<fabian_a> Southern_Gentlem: +1
<RodrigoPadula> here in brazil we have many volunteers, when this
volunteer is working frequently i invite this to the project
<Southern_Gentlem> !
<fabian_a> if the e-mail addresses still are valid ;-)
<fabian_a> Southern_Gentlem,
<fugolini> fabian_a: +1 :)
<RodrigoPadula> the problem is... the local project not is the first
contact in your contries
<Southern_Gentlem> RodrigoPadula, please use meeting protocol
<RodrigoPadula> sorry!
<RodrigoPadula> eof
<Southern_Gentlem> i am Fedora ambassador for this area did i have a
release party for f9 no because my college is on Summer break, this fall
i will be involved with my local lug to have a release party for f10 eof
<RodrigoPadula> !
<fabian_a> RodrigoPadula,
<RodrigoPadula> ??in brazil... we are the interface between the Fedora
Project and the community
<RodrigoPadula> so, we recruit collaborators
<RodrigoPadula> and guide this ambassadors to contribute with the projects
<RodrigoPadula> when a collaborator work constantly
<RodrigoPadula> i invite this to the ambassadors project
<RodrigoPadula> so, in the ambassadors list we have only active ambassors
<RodrigoPadula> 90%
<RodrigoPadula> the local project need to copy this model!
<Southern_Gentlem> !
<RodrigoPadula> to drive and guide the local community
<RodrigoPadula> to work and represent the fedora locally
<RodrigoPadula> eof
<fugolini> the problem is that, here, we haven't sign any contract or
any kind of obligation with fedora project, because fedora project is
not an association nor a company. It's a group of people that give
freely without any duty their time
<fabian_a> Southern_Gentlem,
<RodrigoPadula> i agree.. but the local projects need to guide your
local members!
<Southern_Gentlem> RodrigoPadula, i understand what you are staying,
but are you saying because i am not living and breathing Fedora every
minute of every day i am not an active ambassadar?
<Southern_Gentlem> i for one have a lot of college students who are
getting interested in helping with fedora,, but the majority do not have
the spare time
<Southern_Gentlem> eof
<fugolini> Southern_Gentlem: yep :)
<fugolini> RodrigoPadula: have you a proposal to make now or in the next
day (trought the list)
<fugolini> ?
<RodrigoPadula> yes
<fugolini> now?
<RodrigoPadula> on the list
<RodrigoPadula> later
* iWolf is running out of time
<fugolini> perfect, i think it could improve the discussion
<fugolini> iWolf: i agree with you (i have to eat, cleat etc.) :)
<Southern_Gentlem> laters
<fabian_a> i suggest to skip the last points
<jmbuser> +1
<iWolf> +1
<RodrigoPadula> +1
<MrTom> yes
<fugolini> ok
<fabian_a> anything else for today?
<iWolf> not from me.
<RodrigoPadula> not
<fabian_a> meeting has been adjourned...
15 years, 11 months
the end of our Q1 budget
by Max Spevack
Hi Ambassadors,
What an incredible quarter it has been -- for worldwide Fedora events,
including large events in Brazil and Berlin, we have spent almost
$50,000 USD, and by the end of the quarter we will have run over 30
events.
More importantly, the events have produced excellent reports, and
brought a number of new people into the Project. I see names on Fedora
Planet and on the Ambassadors list that I don't recognize, which is
wonderful.
We're in the last week of the quarter, from a Red Hat finance point of
view. I've been pretty good about getting everything taken care of, but
if you were promised funding for an event that took place in March,
April, or May, and you haven't been reimbursed yet, please get in touch
with me as soon as possible, and put something like "BUDGET" in the
subject line in big letters.
I hope to use Thursday to get all of the final details of our budget for
this quarter taken care of.
Rodrigo -- you don't need to email me. Greg and I are taking care of
you already. :)
Thanks,
Max
15 years, 11 months
LinuxTag, Fedora 9 DVDs & FOD
by Pawel Sadowski
Hello,
I have a question about Fedora 9 DVDs for our event in Poland. Yesterday
I sent an e-mail about incoming Fedora and Red Hat Open Day which will
be held just after LinuxTag. I have a question/request for the guys
responsible for swag during LinuxTag: is it possible to leave me
something about 100 Fedora 9 DVDs which I could use for FOD? Firstly, we
wanted to make it on our own, but if there's LinuxTag almost in the same
time, I think it might be a more reasonable solution to take some DVDs
from there. I suppose not all disks will be sold during LinuxTag, so
could I have some for FOD, please? ;)
Cheers,
Pawel
15 years, 11 months
Trellis / Fedora Grid Project
by Frederic Hornain
Hi,
Despite my Google and FedoraProject searches, I was not able to find
information about Fedora Grid or Trellis.
Could someone tell me where can I retrieve details about that Project?
Thanks a lot in advance
Kind Regards
Frederic Hornain
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Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain
15 years, 11 months
Lost in translation (Ubuntu and Launchpad translations)
by Valent Turkovic
Hi,
I have came a cross an issue that I didn't see discussed in this
mailing list, but if there was such a discussion before please point
me to it.
First I have noticed that in previous and latest Ubuntu release that
Gnome translation is much better that I see in Fedora 8 and 9. I
wondered why and contacted croatian gnome translation team. The reason
is that they use Ubuntu Launchpad to do the translations and so all
translation are not automatically pushed to upstream gnome.
I feel that this is broken by design. There are options to export
translations from Lauchpad and we are working on getting them to
upstream Gnome right now. I can only guess but I suspect that our
translation team is not the only one caught in this "lost in
translation" Lauchpad trap. There are probably lots of translation
teams around the world using launchpad to do their translations.
So my questions is - has there been any talk with Ubuntu developers
and translators regarding this? Do you think this is an issue? Why?
How is translation in Fedora handling translation and upstream?
Thank you for your time,
Valent, croatian Fedora Ambassador.
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15 years, 11 months
Toronto F9 Release Party report
by Andrew Overholt
Hi,
We had a very successful release party last week here in Toronto. I
wrote up a little report and put some pictures on my blog:
http://overholt.ca/wp/?p=105
Over the course of the night we probably had 20+ people which I was
really happy with. It was a great day and the Linux Caffe was busy so
we even attracted some regular customers and some members of the
Wireless Nomad group to come over and ask what was up with Fedora and
get some media.
I can't think of anything we could have done better except maybe have
had a more polished little presentation. I was really impressed with
the enthusiasm of the attendees and we'll *definitely* have to do
another one in 6 months.
Andrew
15 years, 11 months
FOD 2008 soon!
by Pawel Sadowski
Hi,
I'm bringing good news ;) I wanna inform you about an event which will
take place on 1.06.2008 in Cracow, Poland. It's full name is Fedora and
Red Hat Open Day 2008, although it will cover mainly Fedora-related
topics. Participants will have an opportunity to buy Fedora gadgets and
talk about Fedora at our booth. Also, we're planning an integration
evening after the event ;) If any of you is interested in coming, please
contact me, I will be glad to help you, and of course, I'd be delighted
to see some international Fedora community members there :) More
detailed information together with the agenda is available at the
event's page: http://fod.org.pl.
Regards,
Pawel
15 years, 11 months
