January 2009 - ambassadors - Fedora mailing-lists

Revisiting FADNA (was: Re: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2008-12-17)
by Larry Cafiero 27 Mar '09

27 Mar '09

An observation while cursing the bad timing of my final exams (and not being able to address this issue last night): On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:57 PM, inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com> wrote: > * FADNA > > - Larry Cafiero sent mail to f-a-l indicating willingness to take > ownership of hosting FADNA at SCaLE in February. > > - Discussion about several possible alternate sites and timing. > > - Agreed to let Larry run with this, need to discuss it in more > detail during the coming week and sign off officially at next > week's meeting if all goes well. > > - Not likely to be very much in our Q4 budget for this so we need > to try to proceed prudently. > > * Q4 Budget [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget] Until last night, I don't believe Linuxfest Northwest in April was brought up as an option for FADNA. Until now, my impression, wrongly it appears, was that we were locked into either SCaLE or SELF, the latter of which was deemed to be too close to FUDcon. If LFNW is an option, we should look at it closely, not only because of the time factor involved -- both in organizational terms as well as financial terms (this falls in Q1, right?) -- but also in the fact that this is an historical year for LFNW, it's 10th anniversary. I'll retain ownership of this, needless to say, but I think it might be best to take a closer look at LFNW rather than rush to make SCaLE. I'll do the legwork on both and report back during the course of the week and have something for Tuesday's meeting. But those are my thoughts after reading the minutes and, naturally, I welcome input on the issue. Lots. Larry Cafiero

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Organize NA and EMEA IRC meeting
by Francesco Ugolini 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

Sometime ago, I was asked to help organizing a shared meeting with EMEA and NA to share ideas about initiatives and have a better look at each other. I want to ask all the interest to think about it, once again, maybe trying to find a time/date to make this important meeting happening. Regards Francesco Ugolini

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Fedora Talk
by Rafael Gomes 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hi Guys, I translated the website talk.fedoraproject for brazilian portuguese and I am interested to use this project in Brazil. Is there a documentation about configuration in twinkle or ekiga? Because for both case in website there is this information "(Coming Soon)" I configured twinkle and ekiga and it is very easy, I think. Can I do this documentation or already is there other one? Thanks, Rafael Gomes Consultor em TI Embaixador Fedora LPIC-1 (71) 8146-5772

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Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.)
by susmit shannigrahi 13 Feb '09

13 Feb '09

Hi, I am really elated to let you know that we have successfully automated the Fedora Freemedia handling process. So far the freemedia request handling has been manual. A form was filled, a mail sent to the mailing list, postal addresses copied from the mail and updated to the wiki. This was pretty complex, and time consuming too. Now the process will be as easy as this: 1. Now the requester will come here[1]. Fill in the data, and will continue to the next page. 2. On continuing the trac ticket will be already filled with the data, all the requester will have to do is to click the "Submit Ticket" button. 3. A ticket will be filed here[2]. 4. The freemedia contributor will accept the ticket he/she is willing to ship. 5. When shipped, he/she will close the ticket. If you have any comment/suggession, please let me know. Also PLEASE play around with the system, file tickets, close tickets, and do whatever you want and let me know any bugs that you may have noticed. Lastly, thanks to all, who helped doing this possible. Thanks and awaiting bug reports.. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/ -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

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FOSDEM
by Max Spevack 05 Feb '09

05 Feb '09

Are there any remaining questions, or organizational topics that need to be addressed for FOSDEM? For those of you who are receiving some sort of sponsorship from the Community Architecture budget, please read over https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements and be ready with your receipts as quickly after FOSDEM as possible. I need to get all of the FOSDEM-related expenses into the Red Hat system by the middle of February, so it won't leave much time. Thanks, Max

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FAmNA Meetings Revisited
by inode0 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

We have been having weekly meetings on Tuesday nights now for 6 months. A lot has been accomplished and perhaps it is time to reconsider the frequency and timing of our meetings again. Several of us feel that moving to twice a month meetings would be appropriate now to keep our initiatives moving forward without being overly burdensome on ambassadors who want to participate. Are folks ready to renegotiate this for the new year? Are there ambassadors out there who would like to join us for meetings but for whom Tuesday night just won't work? If so, please make suggestions now and we'll see if we can accommodate everyone's schedules. Thanks, John

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Re: Fedora 'ambassadors-kit'
by Joerg Simon 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

Am Sonntag, 18. Januar 2009 23:57:47 schrieb Bert Desmet: > Hi Joerg, > > I have heard in the #fedora-ambassadors channel on irc that there are > ambassadorKit's. > But the wiki about it says that it's only a proposel until now? Hi Bert, i post this in Ambassadors ML too, this is an important Topic! there are several started Projects, Kit´s, Boxes etc ... EventBox http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox Draft Ambassador Kit North America http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica/Drafts/Tools FedoraKit Italia - one time? Project sponsored by bytecode http://blog.foppiano.org/2008/10/23/fedora-kit-landed-around-italy/ I would love to see the "AmbassadorKit" also as a mindset of ideas and best practices for organizing events and getting ressources ... what do you think about this? Regards Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Fedora
by Joerg Simon 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Dear Ambassadors, right now some so called FOSS events appear with a target audience which is more focused for government agencies and bussines. To have Speakers at that events could be a great chance for Fedora to attract them for sponsoring or contribution. Here are some points i have made already in a discussion with a small group of people before. Francesco suggested to invite all Ambassadors to participate in this discussion. There are several topics that we could place to attract government agencies and business, i am sure they will not know about that right now - and i hope that we find more here on that list - or like Francesco suggested collect in a WikiPage. - Company & Inhouse Builds! - a company who build software as FOSS or modify FOSS for their own Enterprise Servers can use the benefit of Fedora Processes and Infrastructure as well as the wide spreading of our Distribution with contributing to Fedora + EPEL - this is good for the company and for Fedora. This could be enhanced by a technical Track, to show them how they can package and spread their Software within own Fedora Spins ... - Community Consulting! - show them the brilliance of our technology with spacewalk, cobbler, func, puppet, FDS, KVM, FEL, our OLPC Success... Talk about the possibility that a Fedora Contributor teaches a company for a donation to the Fedora Project technicaly to see what the future will bring and to use that knowledge for their enterprise enviroments because this Enterprise Servers are build from our roots (or whatever) ... - Build a FOSS Career! - show the government why they should support using and teaching of FOSS in educational institutions Show them success stories we have learned from Kushal or Chitlesh or Rodrigo or Paul - show the bussines why they should hire FOSS Contributors (peer certification, ...) - show the bussines why they should sponsor local FOSS Communities ... - show them how to become a FOSS Contributor inside Fedora. Imagine a government which decides that kids in school get teached leading edge software without licencing cost and with the possibility to enhance and change that. Imagine a Fedora Artwork Contest in all Schools of your Country We can enrich Events with valuable content and give them real FOSS Partnership Spirit. CU Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Fedora DVDs for Red Hat AUS
by Paul W. Frields 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

You guys will hopefully forgive me for being not quite up to date on the latest procedures! :-) What's the best way for me to get about 40 F10 DVDs sent to the Red Hat office in Sydney, Australia? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Freemedia + Unity Re-Spins, Thoughts?
by Frank Murphy 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

Looking for thoughts on this. What would the Freemedia\Ambassadors think, if we cannot include Unity-Respins as full Project sponsored spins. Could we try work on them as an upgrade option. John (inode) voiced something similar previously: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-January/msg001… Where requester is sent the Official Media, and the closest Unity-spin to the request date. It will cost ambassadors a bit extra on media\time\p+p. But it will save the requester time\money, and give them a fairly concurrent box. If feedback is positive, would others be willing to help me bring this forward, to the relevant groups\committees? Frank

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I Love LUCI -- Linux UC Irvine in April 2009
by Larry Cafiero 31 Jan '09

31 Jan '09

Hi, all -- Of particular interest to North American folks: Over the past couple of weeks Joseph Smidt and I have discussed an event to be held at the University of California Irvine in the spring. Originally, I was going to give a mere presentation at UCI, but after lengthy discussions, it has grown into something larger. What Joseph has come up with is Linux UC Irvine -- LUCI -- an event which will take place in April of this year. LUCI serves as an introduction of Linux to the students and faculty of the university, as well as serving as a basis for starting a Linux Users Group on campus and, as a long-range goal, holding twice-a-year Linux festivals every year on campus. While the format for this inaugural event needs to be hashed out -- I'm imagining a presentation along with demonstrations of Fedora would be a main ingredient of the event -- and other logistical facets need to be addressed, I wanted to make everyone aware of this event and ask anyone in the Southern California area (as well as anyone else who might be interested) who wants to participate to contact either Joseph or me. The wiki for this event is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LUCI Thanks, Joseph, for carrying the ball on this project and I'm hoping others will join up. This project, of course, is in the planning stages, and Joseph and I can answer any questions (and, Joseph, if I missed anything, feel free to jump in here). Larry Cafiero

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About fedora DVD distribution
by Amirtham purendra raman bala 31 Jan '09

31 Jan '09

How to distribute free DVD request came to me

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Re: Docs at Fedora Activity Day (FAD) [SCaLE 7x 20 Feb.]
by Clint Savage 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 03:25:05PM -0800, Karsten Wade wrote: > >> * User Guide for F10 -- all wiki work, can use the Ambassador hardware >> as systems to write from. > > Left to my own devices and time having run out, I picked the User > Guide as a good choice for bringing in new people with the lowest > barriers. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x#Documentation > So I say we get the word out about the FAD now. We'll be working on the User Guide for F10 and Packaging of Fonts during the day. A full schedule can be found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x If you are interested, live near Southern California (even if it's a few hours drive, like Las Vegas), come on down and participate for the day. And hey, why not stay for the rest of SCaLE :) Cheers, Clint

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Coolg5 from Mumbai, India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Leandrocesar from Brazil https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Playkaut from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nitj23 from Bangalore, India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ulissisgc from Brazil https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Maxamillion from Texas, USA Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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29 01 2009 FAMSCO Meeting report
by Thomas Canniot 30 Jan '09

30 Jan '09

Hello and welcome to this third FAMSCO weekly meeting summary. The latest meeting was hold on the 29th January 2009 on #fedora-meeting Attendees: Francesco Fugolini Joerg Simon Susmit Shannigrahi Thomas Canniot David Nalley Regreted attendees: Rodrigo Padula Max Spevack Francesco starts by announcing the meeting agenda : 1) Budget 2) Tasks status 1) Budget As Max was unfortunately not attending this already incredible meeting, the budget topic was postponed until the force may be with him again. 2) Tasks status ## Mentorship Kital has sent a mail to contact mentors on their mailing list and is planning a stupendous meeting with them soon. ## Trac system Susmit explains the trac system works in a gorgeous manner and is waiting for complete usability from FAMSCo and ambassadors. ## Mailing list management Kital and Francesco agreed that FAMSCo list has to be managed in a smarter way. Some members are in the list for organization workflow improvement purposes and a wiki page should be created to know « who's in and who's out ». ## Release events Francesco will soon get in contact with Susmit to discuss about release events organization and plannings so as to improve Release event organization and help organizers as much as possible, including with budget. ## Marketing relations status Francesco suggested that Release Events and marketing relationship could be tasks to handled in parallels, and occasion to strengthen links with Marketing people. ## French Ambassadors Organization Thomas pointed out that a first official contact was made the day before with Tunisian and Morocco Ambassadors to invite them to join Solutions Linux event at the end of March. Positive answers were received so far and we are letting them time to get organized to come in France. ## Company contact in East European countries (Romania - Hungary) Kital has contacted Hungarian University and Romanian Exhibitors and invited regional Fedora People (including the outstandingly famous Nicu) to explain them how their companies could benefit from getting involved in Fedora (EPEL, Sponsoring ...). Francesco added that including Marketing on this topic as well could help FAMSCo going farther in this tremendous task. The fact is that there are few opportunities to organize events there with community members, however events are made for professional purposes, and Fedora has to be there as well. Kital is trying to find topics to attract them inside the Fedora community. And then there was silence. Francesco rises his finger in the air, and decided He should adjourned the meeting. Thanks for reading. Your Dear FAmSCo

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Looking toward SCaLE, and looking further forward
by Larry Cafiero 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

Hi, all -- I just wanted to touch base with North American ambassadors regarding the Fedora Activity Day at the Southern California Linux Expo on Feb. 20, 2009, as well as to put out on the list on a couple of potential FADs coming up in next several months. First things first: SCaLE. Here's the wiki page for FAD SCaLE: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x and we're still looking for people to participate in the FAD event on Friday. We'll probably extend the hours into the evening, so those who may not be able to make it during the day could make it on Friday evening. Plus, on a side note, I've talked with Joe Smith, who is sort of the de facto head of the Ubuntu Local Community (LoCo) in California, and since they're having a Bug Jam over the weekend, we agreed to post each other's events on our lists in order to share brainpower, so those who are working on items on Friday are welcome to help out over the weekend at the Bug Jam. More on FAD to follow, but if you live in the West (or anywhere) and find you can make it to L.A., come on down. The booth at SCaLE: We're still looking for people to staff the booth at SCaLE. Clint Savage has a presentation at SCaLE as well (and hopefully he can tell us more about it. Clint?), so his time at the booth may be limited. I will be there for as long as necessary, but there's always more fun in numbers, so again if you're in the neighborhood -- okay, if you're in the same country or same hemisphere -- and want to come, you get a free pass to the event and the satisfaction of knowing you helped Fedora. What more in life is there? Looking further forward: We have the possibility of holding FADs at LinuxFest Northwest in Bellingham, Wash., and at OSCON, which this year is in San Jose, Calif. (and not Portland, as in years past). While I don't mind doing the groundwork etc., for LFNW, I am hoping someone closer to Bellingham (just north of Seattle, close to the Canadian border and Vancouver, BC) might want to take the reins. If not, that's fine. I can do it from the Central California coast. With OSCON almost within walking distance (with a good tail wind and a few packs of trail mix), I don't mind handling OSCON. That essentially covers the West Coast -- are there any other events we can hold FADs at, and more importantly, who wants to take the reins on these events? Larry Cafiero

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Please Sign up for FOSDEM booth attendance
by Christoph Wickert 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

Hi everybody who is going to FOSDEM, in order to assure there are always enough people at the Fedora Booth on FOSDEM 2009, we decided to set up a schedule in the wiki. If you have signed up as booth personnel, please add yourself to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2009_Booth_Attendance TIA, Christoph (I know the page is not in the current FOSDEM namespace, but after talking with Ian I decided to follow the new Wiki structure, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_structure )

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jpirie23 from Edinburgh, Scotland/UK https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aalonso from Mexico https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Iuridiniz from Mexico Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Program
by Jack Aboutboul 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

Hello All, I would like to get some feedback regarding the proposed program. You can find the wiki page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Campus_Ambassadors Let the discussion begin. Any feedback is greatly appreciated, I hope to get everything in order and announce this to the world soon. Thanks, Jack

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Introduction to Fedora 10 : Fedora beginners Guide
by Angel 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

Fedora 10, codename Cambridge released in 25 November, 2008. Here in this tutorial, I have tried to cover everything most easiest way possible. This tutorial specially for the users who want to switch to Fedora from other distros (or even Windows) or who want to try something new beside Ubuntu (I myself think, Ubuntu is boring). Details here: http://angel.linux.org.bd/2009/01/29/introduction-to-fedora-10/ Feedback is welcome. -- Angel GPG key: 0x34001F46 Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel Fedora -- Freedom² and rapid innovation

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Call for Presentation for the "Embedded Systems and Open Hardware" session of the 10th Libre Software Meeting (Nantes, France, July 2009)
by Patrice Kadionik 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

Dear all, Please find below the Call For Presentation to the LSM meeting for the "Embedded Systems and Open Hardware" session. Sincerely Yours; Patrice. French Fedora ambassador. =========================================================================== The Libre Software Meeting (LSM) is an annual event on free software taking place in july in France since 2000. The LSM meeting is organized this year in Nantes from 7th to 11th july. This text is the Call For Presentation (CFP) of the "Embedded Systems and Open Hardware" session. The other topics can be found on the LSM Web site: http://2009.rmll.info/. The embedded systems are increasingly present in our life. The embedded system community usually used commercial software solutions with royalties to reverse each time a system is sold. Since few years, a reversal of tendency has appeared with the use of free software for embedded systems. That is made possible by the adaptation of the Linux kernel to the constraints of atypical embedded system (no MMU, small memory footprint, filesystem in FLASH memory...) and its port on various types of processors. Along with free software for embedded systems, Open Hardware is becoming more and more important. Open Hardware provides access to all the specifications of an electronic device design and is reproductible by everyone. This allows design reuse because one knows how it works. Open Hardware also increases its life because it can be reused in another use. The purpose of the "Embedded Systems and Open Hardware" session is to give the state of the art of free software for embedded systems and Open Hardware. Technical topics of this session include but are not limited to: * Embedded OS Development kernel architecture, implementation and port for embedded systems * Embedded Development Tools: tool chains and project cases (tool chain projects, packaging for cross compilation, portability ...) * Embedded Linux: µClinux... * Real-time extensions for Linux: RTLinux, RTAI... * Hard real-time kernels: eCos, RTEMS, ADEOS, Xenomai... * Soft Real-time kernels * Embedded Java * GUI for embedded systems: Gtk, Qt, Nano/X... * Linux and System on Chip (SoC) * Open Hardware, Open design, free IP modules (Intellectual Property) and softcores: opencores, OpenRISC, NIOS, Microblaze, LEONSparc, FPGA... Submissions with industrial applications and experiences are specially encouraged. Précisions for the speakers: The conference will last 30 minutes, questions included. Round tables will be organized. Synthetic presentations are scheduled to last 20 minutes. PDF versions of the presentation are not mandatory but they will be greatly appreciated (with a web online access just after the LSM event, they are a very useful documentation to the entire community). If you plan to participate and to propose a presentation, please send as soon as possible a message to the following address: embarque(a)rmll.info with a summary of your presentation (and if you can, an english summary too) no later than 15th march 2009. Feel free to forward this Call For Presentation everywhere or to everyone you think to be interested in. We have limited resources for public transportation (only for those who can not be refunded by their administration) but there is no fees for the conference and accommodation at very low cost is proposed on the site. The chairmen of the "Embedded Systems and Open Hardware" for LSM ’09: Florian Fainelli, Patrice Kadionik, Thomas Petazzoni et Pierre Ficheux. =========================================================================== -- Patrice Kadionik. F6KQH / F4CUQ ----------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +"Tout doit etre aussi simple que possible, pas seulement plus simple" + +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Patrice Kadionik http://www.enseirb.fr/~kadionik + + IMS Laboratory http://www.ims-bordeaux.fr/ + + ENSEIRB http://www.enseirb.fr + + PO BOX 99 fax : +33 5.56.37.20.23 + + 33402 TALENCE Cedex voice : +33 5.56.84.23.47 + + FRANCE mailto:patrice.kadionik@ims-bordeaux.fr + +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 28 Jan '09

28 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mohaas05 from Washington, D.C., USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yangraham from United Kingdom https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Racl from Chile https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jfsalazar from Venezuela https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hutchint from Colorado Area, USA Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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FAmNA Meeting Change Reminder
by inode0 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Just a reminder to everyone that there is not going to be a FAmNA meeting this evening. The meetings scheduled for February are going to be on the 3rd and the 17th. Mike McGrath will be joining us on the 3rd to talk about infrastructure so please try to attend our next meeting to participate in that discussion. John

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Kids at SCaLE 7x
by Clint Savage 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Here's a conversation I had regarding SCaLE's policy toward bringing children. 13:49 < herlo> I asked a couple days back about kids at scale and pricing or whatever. I forgot to take #scale-chat of ignore, what is the rules on children? 13:49 < Gareth> Kids are definitely allowed to attend. 13:50 < herlo> sure, and I think it's encouraged no? 13:50 < Gareth> We generally dont charge for them if they're under 16 or so. 13:50 < Gareth> Definitely! 13:50 < herlo> cool, that's what I was after 13:50 < Gareth> We had quite a few last year....they all seemed to have a good time. 13:50 < herlo> the Fedorans will be sporting a few young'ns around is all 13:50 < Gareth> Good to hear! 13:50 < lcafiero> +1 Gareth 13:50 < herlo> yeah, we have the wii lined up to be used all day if they get bored 13:52 < herlo> I'm sure we'll have other activities for them. I plan on bringing scissors and some fedora media boxes for them to build 13:52 < lcafiero> Orv_work may want to do something with this, press-wise. Some of the other events -- especially Linux World -- are kid unfriendly, and it doesn't allow those of us with kids to attend. 13:52 < herlo> maybe we should also bring some skulladay.com pages too, that'll entertain them 13:52 < Gareth> yeah. he wrote something up last year too...I'm sure he'll write something up this year. 13:53 < herlo> we'll watch for it So this brings to my mind. What can we do to entertain children at our booth besides the OLPCs? I think that it'd be fun to have kids come around and make stuff at our booth. There are tons of good things on make.com and other places for kids. What do you guys think? Cheers, Clint

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[Fwd: Alpha Release Readiness]
by John Poelstra 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

So far I have not heard from anyone from the Ambassadors team. I need a representative to add to the call-in email ASAP. John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ With the Alpha Release for Fedora 11 scheduled for Tuesday, February 3, 2009, this means it is time to meet again with representatives from each of the teams to have our release readiness meeting. We usually have this meeting at 18:00 UTC (13:00 EST) the Wednesday before, which means next Wednesday, January 28, 2009, is the day. On Monday, January 26, 2009, I will be sending out the dial-in information and a meeting reminder to all the attendees. In the meantime I need to know who will be representing your group at these meetings for the Fedora 11 meetings. Usually this is the designated team leader, but I wanted to ask to make sure you coordinate within your team to make sure someone comes. When responding to this list, please CC me so that I am sure to see the reply. This message is going out to the respective mailings lists for these groups: Ambassadors Artwork/Design Documentation FESCo Infrastructure Marketing Quality Release Engineering Translation Websites Thanks, John

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FAD at SCALE7x
by Paul W. Frields 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

I'm overjoyed that we've already got a great page up for the proposed FAD at SCALE7x: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x Can I get anyone to write a couple sentences for each of the bullet points ("Packaging fonts," "Documentation") that tell attendees the specific goals of FAD at SCALE7x? This will be used in a press release that Red Hat's press team is preparing. They want to include details, along with a link to that page. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Promoting Fedora in the Boston Area Inquiry
by Mark McLaughlin 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hello, what can I do to promote Fedora in the Boston area beyond mentioning it in a Linux Users Group, free advertising is GREAT but what avenue is there? Markus McLaughlin linuxglobe.wordpress.com Hudson, MA, USA

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pre-FOSDEM meeting on IRC
by Max Spevack 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

I would like to have an IRC meeting for everyone who is attending FOSDEM to answer questions, give information, etc. I propose Thursday January 29 at 19:00 UTC. --Max

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FW: 2009 Symposium
by Matt Domsch 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Andrew Hutton, organizer of the Linux Symposium (formerly in Ottawa, for the next 2 years in Montreal), has invited Fedora to host some form of event concurrent with this year's Symposium, the week of July 13. There was some positive interest on this when brought up in December, but then it went silent. Is anyone willing to take this on and drive such an event? -- Matt Domsch Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux -----Original Message----- From: Andrew J. Hutton [mailto:ajh@linuxsymposium.org] Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:48 AM To: Domsch, Matt Subject: 2009 Symposium I would love to pick up on the idea of hosting FedoraCon here in Montreal (I'm actually here for the weekend) and try to get something firmed up if possible.

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[Fwd: Fwd: Call for Lectures/Stand: Grazer LinuxTage 2009]
by Oliver Falk 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

Hi Gerold, David, Jörg and list! First of all; Sorry for forwarding a German mail. However. You, Germans (no offence - of course!); I don't know if you know the Grazer Linuxtage!? Well, doesn't mind, if you've never been in Graz, it's time :-P David, for you it's also a quite long travel, isn't it? Since my kids have birthday on 24th of April, I'm not sure if I can visit the Linuxtage this time. However. Maybe we should just find someone who organizes that Fedora DVDs are *there*. :-) And some poster/logo - whatever :-) I'm willing to help as good as I can - of course! Best, Oliver

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Event Report: BarCamp Charlotte
by David Nalley 24 Jan '09

24 Jan '09

BarCamp Charlotte was today and Fedora was a sponsor of the event. Leam Hall, Greg DeKoenigsberg, and Alex Maier also showed up. In all three talks were pitched, and from those Alex's 'How to not suck at managing volunteers' and Greg's talk on OLPC were handled first before lunch. The event itself seemed a bit chaotic, but since was their first BarCamp I suppose it is to be expected. The venue, Area 15, was exceedingly chilly inside, but had lots of space, even if it was disjointed. Around 100 people showed up for the event, with a large percentage of them being 'social media' types. There were also two 'How to make money online' sessions that honestly were almost creepy. Both Greg and Alex has good sessions with lots of interaction from the attendees. Around 2pm we broke for lunch, and after seeing no further compelling sessions we left around 4pm.

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REMINDER French Meeting today 1930UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 24 Jan '09

24 Jan '09

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-01-25 / 19:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (25 jan.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Thomas Canniot

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Announcement of FRT / ERSTER deutscher Fedora Round Table (STAMMTISCH)
by Gerold 24 Jan '09

24 Jan '09

** english translation below ** Hallo allerseits, nach Rücksprache mit Robert haben wir folgendes festgelegt: Der erste FRT (Fedora Round Table) zu deutsch: STAMMTISCH wird stattfinden am: 28. Februar 2009 um: 16:00 h im: Der kleine Vogel http://www.vogelbraeu.de/karlsruhe/2_1_1.html Sinn und Zweck des FRT soll es sein, lokale Gruppen zu fördern, zu unterstützen und selbst ins Gespräch zu kommen. Dieser FRT wird regelmäßig alle ZWEI MONATE im süddeutschen Raum (KA, S, FR) durchgeführt und soll ein 1/2 bis 3/4 Tag sein. Wer definitiv am ERSTEN FRT (weltweit) dabei sein möchte, melde sich bitte per E-Mail entweder bei Robert oder mir (bis zum 20.02.09) an! Gruss Gerold + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Hi there, after spoken with Robert, we decided: The first FRT (Fedora Round Table) in German a regular's table will take place as follows at: 2008-02-28 time: 16:00 local time where: "Der kleine Vogel" http://www.vogelbraeu.de/karlsruhe/2_1_1.html Target audience and goal of the FRT should be, that we want to support local groups, come together, get in touch and also to meet each other in person. We want to establish the FRT in a TWO MONTH periodical meeting in the south of Germany around KA, S, FR; a meeting for 1/2 or 3/4 day and opened for everyone. Who attends definitly at the FIRST FRT (global) should send an E-Mail until 2008-02-20 to Roberts or my attention. -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa(a)fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa(a)fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9

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2008-01-22 FAMSCO Meeting Summary
by Thomas Canniot 24 Jan '09

24 Jan '09

Hello and welcome to this second FAMSCO weekly meeting summary. The latest meeting was hold on the 22th January 2009 on #fedora-meeting Attendees: Francesco Fugolini Joerg Simon Susmit Shannigrahi Rodrigo Padula Max Spevack David Nalley Regreted attendee: Thomas Canniot Francesco starts by announcing the meeting agenda : 1. Budget 2. Review current tasks 3. Define/discuss tasks' deadline 4. Migration to new freemedia system, approval and issues. 5. Having a git repo for ambassador scripts. 6. t.b.d. 1. Budget Max start by reviewing the latest and hottest topics about FAMSCo budget. FOSDEM is _the_ big budget task for this quarter: there are lots of travel sponsorships and Max will need to collect them during the event, as this should be done before the end of RedHat Q4 (mid February). Max also expects to finance the being prepared FAD in India. The topic of how to finance LATAM is asked by Rodrigo Padula. From Max point of view, this topic is really a big one and long discussion on how dealing with this financing will have to be done soon. From his point of view, RedHat has to bet much more involved in this topic, which would avoid creating a legal entity in LATAM, as Rodrigo suggested. 2. Review current tasks and Define/discuss tasks' deadine Mentoring task is then being discussed. As there are already regional mentors, the idea of giving them the task and, if needed, tools to handle it. David Nalley pointed out that he has planned to attend Marketing meeting this week. Rodrigo Padula added he is waiting from local RedHat to go forward on his task on LATAM events. 4. Migration to new freemedia system, approval and issues. About the migration to new freemedia system, handled by Susmit, it is ready to go and waiting for approval from both infrastructure team (that he has now) and the board. Rodrigo Padula asked for translation of the Freemedia System. 5. Having a git repo for ambassador scripts. Tasks review is then being discussed. The main topic is the settlement of the GIT system and the packaging of scripts to automate the creation of stats for Ambassadors. However, Susmit added his doubt about having a new and separate GIT repo for them, as the Project already have GIT repos. Maybe they can be used in that purpose as well. Migrating to trac the Ambassador membership system is being worked on and is scheduled for February. Francesco adjourned the meeting. Thanks for reading and see you next week. Your dear FAMSCO

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fair question
by Tomasz Szymanek 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

How to approve my status in ambassadors group? I've done all steps, and i wait for approvement. I'll be grateful for any response. Tom 'Deathgazer' Szymanek

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Campus Ambassadors
by hagr182 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

From: Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez <hagr182(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:46 PM Subject: Campus Ambassadors / Embajadores en campu To: embajadores-fedora-latam(a)redhat.com, fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com Well im really exited about the campus ambassadors projects, as a matter of fact I already proposed it to one of my school´s directives (Director of IT related careers on ITESM Campus Saltillo) and we deffinetively are interested, as a matter of fact this mail comes as a request to ask when does this project starts and any other tidbit you may have for us, this is going to be the first open source project on school, even tough we do have some big time open source fans. Im currently the gateway between the project and my school so any info you may have please send it to me ASAP. On a side note im still running my radio program, guess what distro im promoting???? so any comments you may have and would like to get send please contact me.

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Campus Ambassadors / Embajadores en campu
by hagr182 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Well im really exited about the campus ambassadors projects, as a matter of fact I already proposed it to one of my school´s directives (Director of IT related careers on ITESM Campus Saltillo) and we deffinetively are interested, as a matter of fact this mail comes as a request to ask when does this project starts and any other tidbit you may have for us, this is going to be the first open source project on school, even tough we do have some big time open source fans. Im currently the gateway between the project and my school so any info you may have please send it to me ASAP. On a side note im still running my radio program, guess what distro im promoting???? so any comments you may have and would like to get send please contact me.

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TCF2009 April 25 & 26
by Kam Salisbury 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

I have submitted a speaker application (poster session) for the upcoming 34th Annual Trenton Computer Festival, April 25 and 26 2009 held in Ewing New Jersey USA. If approved, I will speak about Fedora in general and distribute live media. I am unsure if I will have need of an event box at this time. http://tcf-nj.org If any other Ambassadors are planning on attending the festival, please let me know off list. You are welcome to help speak, present or even just say Hello. It would be great to meet you. -- Kam http://kamsalisbury.com GPG key: FAF1751E -----Original Message----- From: "Neville A. Cross" <nacross(a)gmail.com> Subj: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:46 pm Size: 621 bytes To: jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org; fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com 2009/1/21 JoergSimon <jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org>: > Dear Ambassadors, > > let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tonycrusader from Mexico > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dtavares from Brazil > > Regards Joerg > I am really happy to see the LATAM Ambassadors to grow. I want to extend a warm welcome to Tony and Dtavares. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Deathgazer from Silesia, Poland https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Thuth from Neubiberg, Germany https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Debasis from Bhubaneswar, India Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Event Report: Fedora Infinity Day 2009
by Angel 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Hi, Here is the event report of Fedora Infinity Day 2009: http://angel.linux.org.bd/?p=8 . Pictures from the event: http://picasaweb.google.com/rahmanangel/FedoraInfinityDay2009 . -- Angel GPG key: 0x34001F46 Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel Fedora -- Freedom² and rapid innovation

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Re: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador
by Dhushyanth R 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Hi everyone, >><snipped> > Hello, > > Well, as Alejandro said, I believe it could be a fantastic innitiative, > but... At least if it comes about Poland, there are let's call it SIGs on > campuses here, inter alia those related to Linux. What my concern is, how to > connect the both groups and how to cooperate with them. Because by then we > would be the only distribution which has such project running on campuses. > Of course it would be a kind of honor to be part of such innitiative... my > doubt is if it wouldn't be duplication of work, and you know, these voices > that we're trying to make our own way of promoting Open Source... :) > Althouth by then we could be the pace setting side ones, and that could be > the fantastic side... ;) I hope you know what I mean :D > > Cheers, > Pawel > I too believe the Campus Ambassadors Program (CAmP) is a great initiative. As a new ambassador(on probation) myself and a second year undergraduate student i can relate to how much this can be a boost to us students. But the CAmP needs to have certain parameters of evaluation. Having one tech talk per sem seems very vague. In a scenario where the CAm is changed every year(say), Then won't it be the case that the same talk or something similar is held everytime-- will that also count as a tech talk. I have seen it happen - always the same talk on why switch to linux, how to install linux system, etc given time and again in here So guys any ideas on how to evaluate if a CAm is working or not.? On what basis are the goodies for an event decided? Is it solely on the ambassador's request? how do we know that an ambassador is getting across to the targeted audience? what are the resources at his disposal? And on what parameters is a CAm chosen- Knowledge...PR skills...in a scenario where there are multiple candidates from the same institute? Also there should be some way of rewarding CAms who go out of their way, out of their campuses to spread the word to the world outside. Also questions will be raised as Pawel said- do we have separate CAms for Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. Sure we may be first now, but what will happen later? I mean it portrays a disorganized Linux to the outside world, Another point of contention is : I do think we don't need a separate IRC channel. It would be better attended and coordinated if held under fedora-ambassador umbrella itself..That way if we blurt out or mess up in organizing anything, other experienced ambassadors can catch us and help us, correct us, suggest us,etc. In the separate irc channel scenario, if we do mess up, we won't even know it until the event comes up. In the preliminary stages at least the separate irc channel has no meaning. Once the program reaches maturity with more experience and stuff, then we can put up a different channel. regards R Dhushyanth p.s- hope the post is not awfully long and illogical

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Fedora 10 Reference Cheatsheet
by Debjit Saha 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Here is a good Fedora 10 Cheatsheet, basically a quick reference guide: link- http://digitizor.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/fedora-10-reference-cheatsheet/

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 22 Jan '09

22 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tonycrusader from Mexico https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dtavares from Brazil Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Collaboration Summit - Linux Foundation
by Jesse Keating 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

This year, the Collaboration Summit, which is Linux Foundation's cornerstone event, has an open call for papers for the first time. Any body in the Linux community is invited to submit papers for this event. http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/collaboration-summit -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

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FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-01-20
by inode0 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

* Announcements - Reminder that the meetings in February will occur on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of the month. - Mike McGrath will attend the 1st meeting in February to discuss the work of the infrastructure group with us. Please make a note to attend this meeting and learn about infrastructure. * COSSFEST [http://www.cossfest.ca/] - We have been contacted in two ways by the organizers of the Calgary Open Source Systems Festival to see if we would like to give talks and perhaps have other presence at this event in April. If you see this and are interested please contact one of us to get you in touch with the folks in Calgary. * SCaLE FAD [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x] - lcafiero reports facilities and early planning for a FAD at SCaLE are done. Work now is ongoing to recruit attendees and set an agenda defining the concrete goals we hope to accomplish at this FAD. * SCaLE Booth Signup [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE7X_Event] - Some booth help is needed at SCaLE so if you are attending please visit this page and signup to spend some time at the Fedora booth. * Budget Review [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget] - Budget for Q4 increased about 50% allowing increased funding for a FAD at SCaLE this quarter, acquisition of the rest of the media for F10, and some additional purchases going to persistent ambassador infrastructure (herlo is investigating restractable signs for event boxes). * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] - Reminders to those with tasks to recruit future speakers from groups within Fedora we haven't yet had a chance to talk to. * Open Floor - A request went out of the f-a-l list looking for an owner for PyCon in Chicago. Please contact us if you are available to respresent the project at this event. Fedora will have a presence here and it would be nice to have our own booth as well. - lcafiero notes that work on a FAD at LFNW in April is also under way. - Some discussion of shipping supplies around (t-shirts, stickers, buttons). - djf_jeff reports that things are starting to look good for him to be our representative at the Linux Symposium in Montreal this July. Some details still need to be worked out on his end before we can proceed with more detailed event planning. - Several expressed interest in getting ambassador polos, lcafiero will contact pcalarco about the possibility of getting another order in before the next batch of events this year. I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight.

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FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-01-20
by inode0 21 Jan '09

21 Jan '09

(08:00:03 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting - Roll Call please (08:01:36 PM) QuickStart: QuickStar here (08:01:42 PM) QuickStart: .fas QuickStart (08:01:43 PM) ***DemonJester present (08:01:43 PM) zodbot: QuickStart: luisotero2 '' <luisoterofc9(a)gmail.com> (08:01:51 PM) DemonJester: .fas DemonJester (08:01:52 PM) zodbot: DemonJester: bpowell01 'Brian Powell' <bpowell01(a)gmail.com> (08:02:07 PM) DemonJester: let the spam begin.. ;) (08:02:20 PM) inode0: perhaps wikilink is better? (08:02:41 PM) ***DemonJester personally doesnt mind gmail handles it well (08:03:13 PM) inode0: we will be joined in a bit by others I think so let's start (08:03:23 PM) inode0: Announcements (08:03:30 PM) ***inode0 has one (08:03:35 PM) QuickStart: go for it (08:03:57 PM) inode0: We have moved to the twice a month schedule now through February, so no meeting next week (08:04:19 PM) DemonJester: the next one on a thursday right? (08:04:27 PM) inode0: We will meet next month on 2/3 and 2/7 with Mike McGrath joining us on 2/3 to discuss infrastructure with us (08:04:49 PM) inode0: DemonJester: no, we are staying on Tuesdays for another month (08:04:53 PM) QuickStart: Mike McGrath as in Sugar ray? (08:04:59 PM) ***DemonJester hopes someone is going to remind him of when the meeting is, I already am confused about the new schedule (08:05:00 PM) inode0: I meant 2/3 and 2/17 (08:05:05 PM) inode0: not 2/7 (08:05:06 PM) QuickStart: k (08:05:20 PM) inode0: 1st and 3rd Tuesday (08:05:35 PM) inode0: herlo will still send out reminders (08:05:43 PM) DemonJester: thats good (08:05:47 PM) inode0: Any other announcements? (08:06:02 PM) DemonJester: none here (08:06:06 PM) inode0: Agenda is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-01-20 (08:06:14 PM) kam: Hi, Kam is on (08:06:20 PM) inode0: Hi Kam (08:06:41 PM) inode0: Larry is coming late to discuss the next couple of items (08:06:51 PM) inode0: So let's begin with COSSFEST (08:07:33 PM) inode0: We were contacted by folks from this conference about providing speakers (08:07:54 PM) DemonJester: Calgary.... That's a hike.. (08:08:12 PM) inode0: Which raises a lingering question in my mind ... why don't we have a good way to request speakers or do we and I don't know about it? (08:08:28 PM) DemonJester: I am not aware of any system for that either (08:09:09 PM) ***inode0 wonders how often this happens (08:09:42 PM) DemonJester: how did we get contacted this time? (08:10:09 PM) inode0: First they contacted Alex by email and she forwarded the mail to either the marketing or ambassador list (08:10:12 PM) djf_jeff: excuse my late arrival, work emergency call (08:10:21 PM) inode0: Then someone else stopped by in #fedora-ambassadors (08:10:29 PM) inode0: np djf_jeff (08:11:07 PM) DemonJester: ianweller: ping (08:11:09 PM) inode0: So who has a plan for trying to fill the request at hand? (08:11:41 PM) ***DemonJester notes to far for me, someone from the west coast perhaps (08:11:43 PM) inode0: Looks like a nice conference, 300-400 expected to attend this year (08:11:54 PM) QuickStart: where when? (08:12:06 PM) DemonJester: Calgary April 17 and 18 (08:12:15 PM) inode0: click on the link on the agenda for lots of details (08:13:17 PM) inode0: Since they are primarily looking for speakers I don't think hitting the ambassadors is quite enough (08:14:04 PM) QuickStart: true (08:14:56 PM) inode0: Perhaps we can bug FAmSCo about how to spread the word to possibly interested parties without being pests (08:15:02 PM) DemonJester: ah what the heck it's only 2134 miles for me ;) (08:15:22 PM) QuickStart: any plans on doing courses their? (08:15:24 PM) QuickStart: *there (08:15:30 PM) ***herlo is here for 15 minutes or so... (08:15:32 PM) inode0: Seems like this must have come up before (08:15:52 PM) DemonJester: Ask ian if there is a wiki page we may not be aware of (08:15:56 PM) inode0: QuickStart: we have no plans to be there at all at the moment (08:16:03 PM) QuickStart: k (08:16:27 PM) inode0: I just want to try to get word out if possible in case someone would like to go (08:17:01 PM) inode0: herlo: Would you like to update us on the budget news? (08:17:06 PM) djf_jeff: maybe the next FWN? (08:17:10 PM) herlo: we have more MONEY! (08:17:11 PM) inode0: while you are with us for a minute (08:17:17 PM) herlo: $10k total to be exact (08:17:31 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget (08:17:32 PM) herlo: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget (08:17:34 PM) herlo: lol (08:17:56 PM) QuickStart: yeah money (08:18:30 PM) inode0: so we mop up the media needs, add some conference funds, and some persistent infrastructure items? (08:18:49 PM) QuickStart: so is it possible to have our Ambassador Kits? (08:18:58 PM) DemonJester: we already do (08:18:59 PM) herlo: QuickStart: order one and we'll deliver it (08:19:15 PM) herlo: I am in the process of looking into some retractable signs (08:20:01 PM) loupgaroublond: hi all (08:20:02 PM) DemonJester: herlo: like the ones at OLF? (08:20:13 PM) herlo: DemonJester: maybe (08:20:17 PM) DemonJester: cool! (08:20:19 PM) ***lcafiero tries to sneak in unnoticed and takes a seat in the back. (08:20:24 PM) herlo: I was thinking there are some things to overcome with those (08:20:27 PM) inode0: lcafiero: welcome and we'll get to your items shortly (08:20:28 PM) herlo: lcafiero: hi (08:20:31 PM) herlo: good timing (08:20:43 PM) ***DemonJester pulls charid out from under lcafiero to draw attention to him ;-) (08:20:45 PM) herlo: we have money for FAD at SCaLE too (08:20:47 PM) DemonJester: chair (08:20:50 PM) djf_jeff: herlo: let me know what you found on retractable sign, we just made some at our job, I can get the pricing if you want to compare (08:21:00 PM) herlo: djf_jeff: cool, will do (08:21:16 PM) QuickStart: yeaaaaa I gonna get a kit (08:21:36 PM) herlo: so if you guys know of anything that is paid, updated it on the Budget page (08:21:38 PM) inode0: QuickStart: use it wisely (08:21:54 PM) herlo: luke (08:21:55 PM) DemonJester: did MAX take care of SPP yet? (08:22:00 PM) herlo: use the force, luke (08:22:09 PM) herlo: DemonJester: dunno, but he's on a plane today (08:22:13 PM) QuickStart: lol (08:22:13 PM) loupgaroublond: i have to go afk for a bit, but we got the ambassador kit for pittsburgh, it was pretty well received (08:22:20 PM) ***QuickStart moves a chair hey I'm a jedi (08:22:52 PM) herlo: anyway, I want lcafiero to talk about FAD at SCaLE, so I'll shut up and watch... (08:23:13 PM) lcafiero: And I'll watch whatever herlo's watching. (08:23:14 PM) inode0: ok, I agree with herlo that we should all peek in at the budget page on the wiki from time to time and update it when appropriate (08:23:15 PM) lcafiero: Oh wait. (08:23:28 PM) herlo: :) (08:23:53 PM) lcafiero: Okay, FAD at SCaLE. (08:23:54 PM) inode0: Backing up on the agenda there are two SCaLE items and lcafiero has the floor for those now (08:24:28 PM) lcafiero: Okay, if it please the chair, I'd like to take them in reverse order. (08:24:47 PM) lcafiero: Agenda first, then volunteers. (08:25:56 PM) lcafiero: We have a fairly large room, the Kennedy room, at our disposal on the Friday before SCaLE, which will allow us an opportunity to get some things done (08:26:14 PM) lcafiero: Last week there were some ideas flown, but nothing etched in stone. (08:27:04 PM) lcafiero: Not having been to OLF, I don't have that as a reference point, but I would like to get some work done, have a presentation or two and, if it please those attending, having something social (i.e., not work) related in the evening. (08:27:47 PM) lcafiero: Again, this is on the Friday before SCaLE starts, and we join a couple of other somewhat large events prior to SCaLE, so it would give Fedora some significant exposure (08:28:23 PM) lcafiero: With the exposure facet of this, we should probably have some sort of presentation thing during the course of Friday along with the work we can do, if that's what we decide to do. (08:28:52 PM) inode0: Is this presentation for ambassadors or a public thing? (08:28:55 PM) lcafiero: So what I'm asking is for ideas from the floor about what kind of activities, presentations, etc., we should try to achieve. (08:29:10 PM) crossbytes: sorry that I am late (08:29:33 PM) DemonJester: crossbytes: no worries we will just dock your pay ;) (08:29:38 PM) lcafiero: I would think it would be open to the public -- especially the presentations. I don't think fixing packaging, for example (as mentioned last week), would appeal to someone who's new to Fedora. (08:30:00 PM) QuickStart: if you can pay for my travel to Cossfest I'll talk (08:30:31 PM) ianweller: DemonJester: whaaaaaat (pong) (08:30:32 PM) inode0: QuickStart: you need to submit a proposal for a talk that gets accepted :) (08:30:50 PM) lcafiero: I'd like to have an agenda firmed up by the end of the week, or by next meeting for approval. (08:30:53 PM) QuickStart: ok I'll talk to you later about it in the ambassador channel (08:31:03 PM) DemonJester: ianweller: are you aware of any wiki page for Fedora speaking requests or info? (08:31:05 PM) lcafiero: It can be discussed on f-a-l as well. (08:31:09 PM) ianweller: DemonJester: no (08:31:20 PM) DemonJester: ianweller: ok thanks. (08:31:23 PM) herlo: okay, so let me interject here (08:31:31 PM) lcafiero: please, herlo (08:31:34 PM) herlo: the point of FAD is to get somethign done for Fedora (08:32:00 PM) herlo: thus, Packaging Fonts (which is what I plan on promoting) and Docs (which Karsten put out a call) would be a great fit (08:32:11 PM) herlo: thx ke4qqq ^^ (08:32:14 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:32:52 PM) herlo: the point about including outsiders into FAD should also be somethign we should do and very viable, thus an Ambassador presentation would be great. I am already presenting at SCaLE, so I vote for someone else. But (08:33:10 PM) lcafiero: I can do that, herlo (08:33:40 PM) herlo: we need to invite adora and the other guy from irivine (I fail at his name) to come along and would like to pay for their travel & room as needed, any objections? (08:34:01 PM) herlo: If anything is left over, I'd like to pay for lcafiero and my room (we can share probably) (08:34:16 PM) lcafiero: Adora and Jsmidt will be asked, and I know jsmidt expressed an interest in coming. (08:34:18 PM) herlo: anyway, that's my time, I have to go back to teaching (08:34:19 PM) lcafiero: I am following up on that. (08:35:16 PM) lcafiero: I discussed doing something earlier in the week at UC Irvine with jsmidt, and I will have to see if that's still on. (08:36:00 PM) lcafiero: Anyway, I like the idea of packaging fonts and docs. Anything else? Is that enough, work-wise? (08:36:28 PM) inode0: lcafiero: the problem with us suggesting things is that those things might not be a good fit for who actually attends (08:36:56 PM) QuickStart: true (08:37:01 PM) inode0: I would suggest nailing down the core attendees, and have them propose what they want to accomplish (08:37:02 PM) lcafiero: Good point, and I'm a living breathing example. Docs I can do, packaging fonts I'll have to learn. (08:37:23 PM) inode0: They will accomplish more if they are working on what interests them (08:37:35 PM) DemonJester: +1 (08:37:49 PM) lcafiero: Okay, then we'll work on the attendees. Other than herlo, quaid and me, anyone else here making it down to L.A.? (08:37:53 PM) lcafiero: Just curious. (08:37:56 PM) QuickStart: aren't the fonts bitmaps? (08:38:11 PM) QuickStart: I'll go if my stay and travel is covered (08:38:20 PM) ***DemonJester will not be making the trip (08:38:56 PM) lcafiero: Since the FAD concept has gone through a change recently to be more regional in nature, just seeing who's around, that's all. (08:39:09 PM) crossbytes: crossbytes won't be making the trip.. (08:39:26 PM) djf_jeff: I will not make it too (08:39:54 PM) lcafiero: Okay, thanks for the rough head count. (08:40:28 PM) DemonJester: lcafiero: shoot a message to the ML and see if any West Coaster are interested. (08:40:37 PM) lcafiero: On the issue of SCaLE itself, herlo is making a presentation and we're still looking for volunteers for the booth. (08:40:40 PM) lcafiero: Will do, DemonJester (08:40:41 PM) inode0: Not looking at a lot of takers here tonight but volunteers?! :) (08:40:58 PM) lcafiero: Didn't expect any, just thought I'd throw it out there for the record. (08:41:37 PM) inode0: Good to throw out, good to have a link handy to give others later (08:41:44 PM) lcafiero: The booth, in my opinion, is in a pretty good position on the floor. I am still working on the logistics with herlo and quaid to get the event box there. (08:41:45 PM) ***DemonJester suggests Adora :-) (08:41:59 PM) lcafiero: herlo, want to tell us what you're talking about at SCaLE? (08:42:13 PM) inode0: spins wasn't it? (08:42:23 PM) lcafiero: I believe so. (08:42:55 PM) inode0: herlo is teaching something now on Tuesdays so isn't here watching now I don't think (08:43:01 PM) lcafiero: Oh, right. (08:43:10 PM) lcafiero: Okay, so that's about it for those two items (08:43:18 PM) lcafiero: More to follow on the list. (08:43:30 PM) lcafiero: [Lots more] (08:43:41 PM) inode0: ok, thanks lcafiero (08:44:14 PM) inode0: I will slip in that I sent out a request for an owner of PyCon - please consider doing that if you are in the Chicago area (08:44:32 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:44:40 PM) lcafiero: Also think about a FAD event in your area. (08:44:51 PM) lcafiero: (sorry inode0 -- had to throw that in) (08:45:05 PM) inode0: that is fine (08:45:16 PM) djf_jeff: Chicago is a little far for me but I already think of a FAD in Quebec (08:45:34 PM) lcafiero: +1 djf_jeff (08:46:22 PM) inode0: Alright, last formal item is the task list (which has dwindled to only a couple items) (08:46:51 PM) inode0: Speakers? ianweller and herlo were planning to round up some (08:47:04 PM) lcafiero: ? (08:47:07 PM) ianweller: oh for these meetings? (08:47:24 PM) inode0: Recruiting speakers, ian was to check with spot I recall (08:47:30 PM) ianweller: yeah. (08:47:34 PM) ***ianweller writes down to remember to do that (08:48:21 PM) inode0: once a month will work well so shoot for March or April if possible (08:49:10 PM) inode0: If there is no other business it is an open floor for any other discussion people would like to have (08:49:39 PM) DemonJester: inode0: did you get your shirts? (08:49:47 PM) lcafiero: I'd like to mention that we also have FADs in the works for LinuxFest Northwest in Washington in April (08:49:49 PM) inode0: yes I did, thanks (08:50:22 PM) DemonJester: any word on sticker shipments? (08:50:30 PM) inode0: not that I have heard (08:50:53 PM) DemonJester: who had them? Jared? (08:50:55 PM) inode0: I have some buttons still I can send out when I figure this shipping business out (08:51:25 PM) inode0: yes, I think mizmo perhaps was going to help us get some (08:51:56 PM) djf_jeff: just a quick note for the Montreal Linux Symposium, I have talked to my employer and I'm ok to go for the week. I just need to find somewhere to stay (08:52:07 PM) djf_jeff: and I will post on f-a-l all the details (08:52:16 PM) inode0: sweet, great news (08:52:25 PM) DemonJester: djf_jeff: Cool!! (08:52:31 PM) lcafiero: great, djf_jeff (08:52:46 PM) inode0: be sure matt knows and his contact at MLS knows (08:53:14 PM) QuickStart: montreal (08:53:21 PM) QuickStart: try the best western europa (08:53:50 PM) QuickStart: its not the best but its a good place to stay (08:53:54 PM) crossbytes: been approached to speak at an adult computer evening class re linux, would this qualify as a fad (08:54:12 PM) inode0: no, but it would qualify as an event (08:54:15 PM) DemonJester: no but put it on the event page (08:54:25 PM) DemonJester: ;) (08:54:29 PM) djf_jeff: I just want to sort all the details before contacting anyone, I need to find somewhere to get some sleep between the good events ;) (08:54:39 PM) djf_jeff: I need to ask my employer, I think we have an apartment in Montreal (08:54:59 PM) djf_jeff: I just need to confirm all this (08:55:24 PM) lcafiero: Just thought of something: How many people need polo shirts? (08:55:39 PM) QuickStart: me (08:55:48 PM) djf_jeff: lcafiero: +1 for me if it's possible (08:55:51 PM) crossbytes: after confirmation will add it to the events page (08:55:52 PM) lcafiero: I'm just wondering if there are enough of us, we can have Pascal make another order. (08:55:56 PM) inode0: we should see if they still plan to run a bus to and from Boston, and if so see if we can interest some people from there in going (08:55:58 PM) QuickStart: but put it on hold for the time being (08:56:16 PM) QuickStart: low on funds (08:56:26 PM) DemonJester: inode0: a bus to where? (08:56:32 PM) lcafiero: I'll put the polos on the list. (08:56:49 PM) inode0: the MLS organizers were talking about running a bus back and forth to Boston (08:57:02 PM) DemonJester: oh wow.. (08:57:06 PM) djf_jeff: it would be really nice (08:57:10 PM) lcafiero: How close to Montreal is Boston? (08:57:17 PM) inode0: would need to go back to matt's first or second email about it (08:57:33 PM) djf_jeff: 5-6 hours maybe, I have make the trip 6 month ago for my RHCE ;) (08:58:32 PM) inode0: lcafiero: are you going to ping pcalarco about the polos? (08:58:43 PM) inode0: He might still have one or two leftover from before (08:58:45 PM) lcafiero: inode0: yes. (08:59:23 PM) lcafiero: Every time they are available, I'm short of funds. Now I'm not. :-) (08:59:36 PM) DemonJester: 5.5 hours according to mapquest (08:59:38 PM) inode0: just send him your money now then :) (08:59:45 PM) lcafiero: Good idea (09:00:15 PM) ***lcafiero prefers denim shirts or sweaters to polos (09:00:59 PM) QuickStart: lol (09:01:01 PM) inode0: "... and he's working on chartered busses from several (nearby) cities such as Boston, Ottawa, and Toronto to ease getting to Montreal" (09:01:03 PM) ***djf_jeff prefers shirts too, but for job, a polos is nice and it give free publicity (09:01:49 PM) inode0: denim sweaters? (09:01:49 PM) ***QuickStart will spraypaint a fedora logo on a shirt to see if that works for the time being (09:01:58 PM) DemonJester: lol (09:02:28 PM) inode0: there are always buttons and stickers (09:03:07 PM) inode0: lots of good stuff happening (09:03:35 PM) inode0: remember the next meeting will be 2/3 and mmcgrath will be joining us (09:03:41 PM) djf_jeff: yeah, many events with a good Fedora presence (09:04:14 PM) inode0: are we done? (09:04:28 PM) inode0: 5 (09:04:28 PM) djf_jeff: done for me (09:04:32 PM) inode0: 4 (09:04:35 PM) inode0: 3 (09:04:38 PM) inode0: 2 (09:04:41 PM) inode0: 1 (09:04:47 PM) inode0: thanks everyone (09:04:49 PM) inode0: EOF

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FAD SCaLE item on tonight's FAmNA meeting agenda
by Larry Cafiero 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Hey, all -- I may be late to the meeting tonight, so if I am, I'd like for the chair to wait for the FAD SCaLE item until I arrive. To get a head start, what I'd like to discuss is the following: -- FAD SCaLE: What do we want to accomplish? Is there any project that need work (someone mentioned one last week). -- Is there anything other than work we want to accomplish as well, i.e., social time, etc. We have a fairly large room at our disposal, which I'll discuss tonight. See you then. Larry Cafiero

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Fwd: [Reminder] FAMNA Meeting @ 2009-01-20 9pm ET
by Clint Savage 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Clint Savage, this is a reminder for FAMNA Meeting 2009-01-20 9pm ET irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting (map) Just a quick reminder that we'll be holding our weekly meeting in #fedora-meeting (irc.freenode.net) tonight at 9pm ET (6pm PT) If you are interested in participating, or have something to contribute, feel free to add it to our agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-01-20 See you all there.

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Looking for a Chicago area owner for PyCon 2009
by inode0 20 Jan '09

20 Jan '09

Fedora is planning to participate in several ways at PyCon this March including presentations and possibly an OLPC related development sprint. I'm not in a position currently to take ownership of this event for a booth presence and I'm looking for an ambassador in the area who might be able to do that. If you are interested please contact me as soon as possible. See the PyCon website for http://us.pycon.org/2009/about/ for details. Thanks, John

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Fedora at FOSDEM'09 Poster
by Frederic Hornain 19 Jan '09

19 Jan '09

Dear * FYI, this the Poster Fedora at FOSDEM'09 : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009#Poster BR Frederic

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Re: [Ambassadors] Re: FOSDEM: Devroom schedule shift on Saturday
by Max Spevack 19 Jan '09

19 Jan '09

On Sun, 18 Jan 2009, Simo Sorce wrote: > I can change place with Luca. It would actually be ideal for me, so > that I can have both talks in the Same day (I also have a main track > at Fosdem). Perfect. I will make the change on the schedule. --Max

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Fedora EMEA e.V. 2008 financial report
by Max Spevack 19 Jan '09

19 Jan '09

Fedora EMEA e.V. is a non-profit organization based in Germany. It was founded in February of 2008 by a group of Fedora Ambassadors. In *my* opinion, the main purpose of the organization is to serve as a tool for Red Hat (or possibly other companies someday) to sponsor the activities of the Fedora Project in EMEA. === Much like the Fedora Project itself, which believes in financial transparency (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Accounting) Fedora EMEA e.V. adopts the same principals. As the treasurer, I want to bring everyone's attention to the final summary of Fedora EMEA e.V.'s 2008 expenses. It shows the organizations's sources of revenue as well as expenses in the calendar year. http://fedoraemea.org/finances2008.shtml I would also like to publicly thank Jeroen van Meeuwen for his OpenOffice.org spreadsheet hacking skills which added a very impressive layer of automated calculations to our finances. --Max

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Event Report: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts.
by David Nalley 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

Aaron Ruscetta invited me to come talk about Fedora and specifically Fedora 10 at the Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts January meeting. this past Thursday was that meeting and was held at Emory's School of Law. Around 35-45 people showed up. I tried to avoid using a canned presentation and instead talk about what people were interested in. I did show off Fedora 10 and tossed up a list of the new features which brought a number of questions. I also talked about OLPC and Sugar Labs. This seemed to generate a lot of excitement particularly now that getting involved with OLPC development is as easy as getting involved with Fedora. I stopped the 'presentation' after 90 minutes, and stayed around for about another hour or so answering questions one on one. I also handed out LiveCDs (the debut of F10 LiveCDs outside of FUDcon) which seemed to be a big hit.

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LinuxTag 2009 speaking opportunities
by Max Spevack 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

If you already know that you will attend LinuxTag 2009 and would like to give a talk, please do the right thing on this page. It should be self-explanatory. We are looking for talks on a variety of subjects and a variety of levels of technical depth. You may sign up to give your talk in either English or German. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag_2009_talks Feel free to share the link with anyone in the Fedora or JBoss.org community who might be interested. The (still in planning) page for LinuxTag 2009 is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag2009 --Max

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OpenExpo 2009 Berne
by Fabian Affolter 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, The OpenExpo [1] will be hold at April, 1st. We are not in a hurry about that event at the moment but I would like to know if you are planning to attend OpenExpo and/or help at the booth. I sent this beside the ambassadors-list to all Swiss Fedora contributors because I would like to see as many Swiss Fedora contributor there as possible. The advantage with more people around a table is that we will be able to cover more topics (from packaging over artwork to translation) and a strong presence there can strength the Fedora Project. Please add a note to the organizing page [2] in the Fedora Wiki if you will join us there. Thanks in advance. Kind regards, Fabian [1] http://openexpo.ch/ [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OpenExpo/OpenExpo2009_Berne - -- Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F Fedora always leads and never follows. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklzTnwACgkQ4jzS3TakOX+PIwCbBoCxWKTaOhZmVUIMdMWeAECk nnIAnRFqFzlQiotwQO/9EdSOvybg0+I1 =qdYd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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FOSDEM: Devroom schedule shift on Saturday
by Frederic Hornain 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

Dear * I'm afraid that, due to the usual fun of dealing with the ULB, the schedule for Developer Rooms on Saturday has shifted: from 12:00 -> 18:00 to 13:00 -> 19:00 I assume that it's fine if we simply keep your schedule for Saturday as-is and simply shift each talk to being one hour later. If not, please reply ASAP. Sorry for the inconvenience FYI, I am going to update the Fedora wiki page : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009 Best Regards Frederic

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Event announcement
by Ankur Sinha 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

hi, This email is to announce the LUGM OpenWeek that we propose to hold from the 1st to 7th of march this year. It will be the 1st event of Q1. Please refer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LUGMopenweek for more details. The Links there will guide direct you to the wiki page. All comments are welcome. The event as mentioned on our wiki is aimed at increasing the Linux user base more on a local basis (in college and other colleges around). Once this is done we will move onto workshops to help people contribute to the project. We are still a very young LUG. All help is appreciated in advance. regards, Ankur https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AnkurSinha

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Fedora takes care about the planet? FZC Proyect
by Diego Escobar 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

Hi all: Is not a secret that our world passes for a critical time: excessive pollution, the indiscriminate felling of trees, the irrational use of natural resources, global warming and many other things that have made me wonder what can we do? Lot of people including informatics and people relationed with technology thinks is this a location outside and cant do anything. But it is always possible make a grand of sand... everybody can save the world. Regarding Fedora: - Fedora promotes some kind of ecology? We do not need strict recycling policies or abstinence, from simple things like "the last person exiting please turn off the light." - In development policies Fedora how we save? Reuse of software components is a very common practice. Can we measure it? Can we save more? - Promote the use of the Live USB Creator. How well would you do if instead of burning the CD / DVD, use the Live USB Creator using your own memory stick? Think about this: every 6 months with each release hundreds of discs become obsolete. The USB is a way certainly more rational environmentally speaking. - What features are in Fedora that promote energy savings? Personally I think that Fedora should come with default saving policies stricter starting turning off the monitor instead of darkening the screen. - What features could be included in Fedora that promote saving and efficiency of the system? - Planting trees at least 3 for each server 24 / 7 that we have. (Thanks to Fedora Brazil) With this in mind, Fedora could be promoted not only as a operating system friendly to the planet, this reinforces the sense of community, Fedora user is not only a computer user is a good citizen. Now, discussing this inside Latam Community, we have agreed create the Fedora Zero Carbon Proyect (Fedora Cero Carbono in spanish). The objetive starting from this simple ideas (and a lot of what we have had) is a campain promoving Fedora looking to the racional use of resorces and good job practices. The Fedora Zero Carbon Proyect was originally created and promoved by Rodrigo Padula of Fedora Brazil to reduce the CO2 contamination (congratulations!) and now Latam Community with all this ideas are in the same way... our world. So, what do think? Fedora takes care about the planet? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ZeroCarbon (under construction) -- Diego Escobar Fedora Ambassador for Colombia Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.27 + Gnome 2.22

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REMINDER French Meeting today 1930UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-01-18 / 19:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (18 jan.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Thomas Canniot

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FOSDEM attendees README
by Max Spevack 17 Jan '09

17 Jan '09

Hi all, We have a tremendous number of Fedora contributors who are attending FOSDEM -- over 30. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009 The year that I was at FOSDEM (2007), the booth was of a size that would accomodate about 5 people at a time. It will be the responsibility of Frederic to organize who is at the booth, but obviously we cannot have 30 people all standing around the booth, or there will be no time to talk to any of the visitors. I do not expect that everyone will spend exactly the same amount of time standing behind the booth, but I do expect that people will offer to spend some time at the booth, and that when they are at the booth, they will represent Fedora professionally. The DevRoom has a number of very interesting talks, and I encourage people to listen to those, and also to wander around and visit other booths, and listen to other talks that are interesting (like my talk in the main track!). Of course, you can also just take your laptop and work on Fedora stuff in one of the places where there is wifi internet. So try to do a variety of things during FOSDEM. Please wear your Fedora Ambassador polo shirts if you have them, and if you don't, please wear a Fedora tshirt of some sort. I'm not sure what Joerg is planning for making a new round of polos, but I will let him respond with any information that he has. ============ In the evenings, there is no way that we will be able to go to a single restaurant for dinner. I will recommend that we split into groups of no more than 10 people each when it comes time for meals, and I recommend that people go to dinner with folks who they might not otherwise spend much time with, so we can all get to know our fellow contributors better. ============ Finally, if you are receiving some sort of sponsorship for FOSDEM from the Community Architecture team, I ask you to look at the event reporting guidelines on the wiki. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReportingGuidelines ============ The FOSDEM that I was at in 2007 was a very fun time, and I expect that this will be another excellent event. I am looking forward to seeing you all there. --Max

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Fedora UK Community Website
by Paul Mellors 17 Jan '09

17 Jan '09

Hi all, I'm thinking of setting up a Fedora UK community website [fedora-uk.org - nothing there at the moment] where all the UK fedora users, developers et al can get together, chat, exchange ideas use forums have their own planet etc etc First of all, i don't want to duplicate peoples work so is there any thing like this currently? Is there a template available for something like drupal [or anything else] to keep it inline with all things fedora [their wiki etc] Have i posted this to the right mailing list? ;) Am i wasting my time? Do i need anyones permission for starting things like this? Sorry for all the questions i'm relatively new at this. Comments would be welcome, bearing in mind it's only an idea at this stage. Thanks Paul Mellors [MooDoo] paulmellors(a)fedoraproject.org

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Re: Fedora/FOSDEM Press kit
by Max Spevack 17 Jan '09

17 Jan '09

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Frederic Hornain wrote: > This is the press kit for the FOSDEM'09 Frederic, Can you send the original document? I would like to make some edits before we mass-produce. Thanks! --Max

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fedora on school computers
by Samuel Teyemensah 17 Jan '09

17 Jan '09

hi, everybody. I have been working on getting fedora installed on some of the computers in school where I am undergoing my internship. however, the problem is that school is running a windows based system and I am having problem connecting the new fedora computers to this network. can some take me through the steps of connecting a fedora machine to a windows base network. the NIC was successfully recognised by fedora. tymensk, ghana

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Re: fedora on school computers
by Samuel Teyemensah 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

Yes I would like internet sharing and file sharing. However printer sharing and firewalling would also be needed in the near future. Yes I have done that but could not ping the other computers. tymensk, Ghana

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Fedora 10 Release Events/Parties - Conclusion
by Francesco Ugolini 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

Even if it seems late, I want to thank you all Fedora 10 Release Parties/Events' owners. You have done a marvellous job, with great results and a big success all over the world. It was a really pleasure to read and see the photo through your reports: those ones underlined your hard job and demonstrated your big capacity and creativity organizing an event in a 100% Fedora style. I don't want to take more of your precious time. Starting from your feedbacks we are going to plan another amazing challange, I'm sure your help will be as important as crucial like it was in the past REs. Thank you from me and FAmSCo Regards Francesco Ugolini

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Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website
by Joerg Simon 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 16:13:32 schrieb Mathieu Bridon (bochecha): > If you felt attacked by my email, I'm truly sorry as this was not > intentional. If you didn't, then you can ignore this email you're reading > right now :) no i was not ;) - i hope we have not confused the others ;) Paul, what do you think, can we close this thread? Regards Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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2009-01-15 FAMSCO Meeting summary
by Thomas Canniot 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

Hello and welcome to this first FAMSCO weekly meeting summary. The latest meeting was hold on the 15th January 2009 on #fedora-meeting Attendees: Francesco Fugolini David Nalley Joerg Simon Susmit Shannigrahi Thomas Canniot Regreted attendee: Max Spevack Francesco Ugolini announces the agenda: 1) Budget 2) Tasks status 3) t.b.d. 1) Budget As Max Spevack was not attending this meeting, he sent his report about budget on the FAMSCO mailing list. Max is dealing with both Fedora EMEA e.V and Fedora-fr non profit organization 2009 budgets, as long as all the budget requests for FOSDEM which is due to happen next February. The new FAMSCO trac system [1] will be used by Max to help tracking the budget requests. Meeting attendees did not make any comment on Max's management of the budget. 2) Tasks status The discussion follows Francesco's mail about the sharing of FAMSCO tasks [2]. Some tasks do not have an owner yet. Thomas Canniot decided to take the summary meeting task and the coordination of French speaking contributors. Joerg Simon take the task to move the AMA tracking system to TRAC and to automate some FAS tasks. Francesco and Susmit explain the opportunity for local administrators to manage local ambassadors thanks to this tracking system. Francesco reminds everyone that Max is dealing with the budget task already and invites other FAMSCO members to take the tasks that interest them the most. The discussion then moved to the new tracking system where some bugs were noticed. Joerg explains he will fix them tomorrow. Susmit will write a status mail about the tracking system. David Nalley and Joerg then stand as candidates for the marketing liaison officer task. As this task is kind of new, FAMSCO decides to let them explore what it would require in the future. Francesco reminds that, as FAMSCO leader, he is already the liaison officer with Fedora Board. Francesco adds the wiki tasks page [2] will be updated tomorrow according to the new tasks sharing, and invites everybody to continue talking on the FAMSCO mailing list about this very subject before next week meeting. 3) TBD Finally, Susmit informs FAMSCO that the Freemedia sending process is now automatised and accessible through a form on the wiki [3]. Francesco adjourned the meeting. Thanks for reading and see you next week. [1] https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/TasksList [3] http://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html Your dear FAMSCO -- Famsco-list mailing list Famsco-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/famsco-list

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Update CLT 2009
by Joerg Simon 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

Hi, Today i have received the confirmation for our booth on CLT2009[1] The CLT Website is now available also in english [2] The Exhibitor has limited the number of BoothPersonal - because of capacity planing - so we have a maximum of 5 People as Booth Personal/Speaker with comfort package. You are welcome to visit CLT nonetheless and if you are a FedoraContributor we will of course, take care for your comfort at CLT ;) CU Joerg [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/CLT [2]http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2009/info/index_en.html -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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(no subject)
by Samuel Teyemensah 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

Yes I would like internet sharing and file sharing. However printer sharing and firewalling would also be needed in the near future. Yes I have done that but could not ping the other computers. tymensk, Ghana

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Fedora/FOSDEM'09 Press kit
by Frederic Hornain 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

Dear *, This is the press kit for the FOSDEM'09 -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009#Press_Kit Best Regards Frederic

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Picture book....
by Doug Berry 16 Jan '09

16 Jan '09

Hey Community, Sorry I did not get back sooner. My friend at LSI called my cell phone -- I was waiting for an email. Did not check my messages until today. The gist of what she said is that we can indeed do a hard cover full color book, but we would have to do so using off-set printing. And she could not give a cost estimate, because the cost would depend on how much color and the degree of difficulty for the printer in setting up the book. Off-set would probably create a much better looking book, as far as image quality goes. It is the industry standard for printing high quality books. But using off-set, each color page would require that four separate plates would have to be made to produce a color image. Blue, red, yellow, and black is the way they used to describe it, but now it is CMYK (short for cyan, magenta, yellow, and key (black) We could, however, use a mixture of b&w and color pages. Then we would pay less for the b&w pages that don't have color on them. Still, since we are not driven to make a huge profit off of each book, we could adjust the book price to allow for the additional printing costs. -- w Douglas Berry -- slasherzee(a)fedoraproject.org

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Awagner83 from Charlotte, NC, USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alexh from United Kingdom https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Biertie from Kruishoutem,Belgium https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Joshdills from Nevada Area - Reno, USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ulissis from Criciúma, Brazil Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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F10 rome release part
by Max Spevack 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

I have a receipt for 55.90 EUR from what is clearly the Rome release party. To whom do I owe this money? Please open a ticket. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements Thanks, Max

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EMEA ambassadors meeting summary
by Max Spevack 15 Jan '09

15 Jan '09

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-14 HTML log: http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/logs/2009-01-14-emea-ambassadors.html

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Reimbursement process (please read)
by Max Spevack 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Hi Ambassadors, I have updated the page that discusses how community reimbursements work. -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements It is also linked off of the main FedoraEvents page. I ask you all to do three things: (1) Read it, and ask any questions that you have about structure or process on this thread. (2) If you are currently awaiting some reimbursement, kindly create a ticket for it, following this process. It will make things to a lot faster. This is especially true of all the various FOSDEM sponsorships that exist. (3) Help make sure that new Ambassadors and anyone who is an event owner or regional leader understands the process. Mention this in your regional meetings. My goal is to make this as easy as possible for everyone while still complying with what Red Hat needs, so please share with me your comments, thoughts, or concerns. Remember, I work for you! Thanks, Max

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Re: FAD in late January or early/mid February?
by Clint Savage 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Max Spevack <mspevack(a)redhat.com> wrote: > Back in December, I wrote about the idea of having Fedora Activity Days > (FAD) to complement FUDCons as the "top level" Fedora events in 2009. > > The idea of FADs, in short, is that they can be more numerous than FUDCons > because they have one or two specific goals (anything related to Fedora), > target a smaller number of people in a specific region or city, and are far > less expensive. > > In an ideal world, we'll get to a point where we are having 2 FADs per > month, in various places all over the world. > > I assume there's a lot of energy and motivation for various projects coming > out of FUDCon, and I'd like to see if any feature or group of people would > like to capitalize on that by organizing a FAD sometime between now and, > say, February 13th, so that the budget to support that FAD can come out of > the Community Architecture budget that disappears at the end of February. > > We're holding at FAD at FOSDEM in Brussels at the beginning of February, and > Sankarshan/Rahul are working on organizing one or more in India between now > and the end of February. > > I think we could probably fit one more in, and for the purposes of balance, > it would be nice to do it somewhere in North America, and use it to move > forward something that was discussed at FUDCon. > > If anyone wants to go for it, see: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_organize_a_FAD > > Thanks, > Max > > _______________________________________________ > fedora-advisory-board mailing list > fedora-advisory-board(a)redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board > Max, I'm including the Fedora Ambassadors List because at one time we were going to have a FAD along side SCaLE and it can probably still happen. It's a little later than Feb 13 (Feb 20-22) but it's still in Q4. I think Larry Cafiero was interested in making this happen so I wanted to see what the possibilities were of making that happen. One thought is to do it on Feb 20 (the Friday) as there are special sessions going on and not general sessions. Thoughts? Clint

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EMEA ambassadors monthly meeting
by Max Spevack 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-14 We will have our monthly Fedora EMEA ambassadors meeting tomorrow (Wednesday) at 20:00 UTC (21:00 CET). Feel free to add anything you like to the Agenda. The main plan for the meeting right now is to go through the remainder of the events calendar for Q4 (through the end of February) and to make sure that budget issues are all resolved. Thanks, Max

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Paulmellors from Nottingham, UK https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka from Lima, Peru https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dushyanth from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rfonseca from Brazil Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-01-07
by inode0 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

* Announcements - FAD in late January or early/mid February? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-January/msg00017… lcafiero filled everyone in on planning for a Fedora Activity Day at SCaLE pointing ambassadors to https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-January/msg00017… Discussion of which groups to engage at SCaLE and LFNW FADs, package review was applauded by all as an excellent candidate. * Montreal Linux Symposium - djf_jeff, an ambassador from Quebec, stopped by to discuss what Fedora can do at the Linux Symposium. Further investigation and discussion will follow to try to get a good Fedora presence at this event. * FUDconF11 - ianweller points all to "What you missed at FUDConF11" from ianweller.org * FAmNA Meeting Schedule Revisited - Much discussion here, not much agreement on details. Here is what I think we did agree to do for now. (1) Finish out Q4 by meeting at the same time but on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday for the rest of January and February. (2) Continue getting feedback on f-a-l about alternative times when people who want to attend meetings and can't now could. (3) During Q1 we will try meeting at alternative times as a test drive to see how well they work if something reasonable for a time is proposed to us on f-a-l. * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] - Ambassador Kit task moved to complete post FUDcon. * Open Floor - ke4qqq announced that we have begun the process for evaluating npo status or umbrella - SFLC has assigned us pro bono counsel. Discussion followed ... - ke4qqq announced that he pitched that OLPC should let FAMNA handle XO developer program (the way developers get XOs) and that we use that as a tool to rapidly increase OLPC contributor numbers. Discussion followed ... - jds2001 mentioned that he *might* be doing a presentation next Wednesday for ~50. I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight.

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FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-01-13
by inode0 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

02:00 < inode0> FAmNA Meeting 02:00 -!- lcafiero [n=larry(a)h-66-167-204-23.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:00 < inode0> Roll Call please 02:00 * lcafiero is Larry Cafiero 02:00 * ianweller appearing as himself 02:00 < ianweller> .wikiname ianweller 02:01 < ianweller> .list fedora 02:01 < zodbot> ianweller: branches, bug, ext, fas, fasinfo, fesco, group, refresh, rel, swedish, ticket, what, whoowns, and wikilink 02:01 < ianweller> oh. 02:01 < ianweller> .wikilink ianweller 02:01 < zodbot> ianweller: [[User:Ianweller|Ian Weller]] 02:01 < inode0> djf_jeff: ping 02:01 < djf_jeff> .wikilink jfsaucier 02:01 < zodbot> djf_jeff: [[User:Jfsaucier|Jean-Francois Saucier]] 02:01 < inode0> welcome 02:02 < djf_jeff> my first meeting, happy to be with you! 02:02 -!- neverho0d [n=psv(a)vpn-pool-78-139-211-129.tomtel.ru] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:02 * DemonJester present 02:02 < inode0> ke4qqq and herlo? 02:02 * DemonJester has to leave in about 45 minutes though 02:03 * ianweller is eating dinner 02:03 < inode0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-01-13 02:03 * inode0 hopes that meets with ianweller's approval 02:04 * ke4qqq is here 02:04 < inode0> There is one announcement listed from spevack ... please read if you haven't and lcafiero may want to comment 02:04 < herlo> inode0: here but slightly unavailable 02:04 < ianweller> inode0: worksforme 02:04 < herlo> be available in 10mins at most 02:05 < inode0> that is fine herlo, thanks 02:05 < inode0> lcafiero: did you want to give us some thoughts about SCaLE? 02:06 < lcafiero> I do. But can I pass to have a chance to look at spevack's message? 02:07 < lcafiero> Okay, sorry 02:07 < lcafiero> shall I go ahead, inode0? 02:08 -!- crossbytes [n=crossbyt@fedora/crossbytes] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:08 -!- crossbytes [n=crossbyt@fedora/crossbytes] has quit [Client Quit] 02:09 < lcafiero> Hearing no objection, I'll talk about SCaLE 02:10 < lcafiero> Both herlo and I spoke with the organizers at SCaLE and it appears that we will have a FAD on Feb. 21 (the Friday before SCaLE) 02:10 < lcafiero> What precipitated this was an e-mail from spevack which some of you may have seen on the list. Also, agendized was spevack's e-mail to the fedora board here https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-January/msg00017… 02:11 -!- crossbytes [n=crossbyt@fedora/crossbytes] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:12 * jds2001 here, sorry im late 02:12 < lcafiero> In any case, I'll be coordinating FADs at SCaLE and Linux Fest Northwest, unless someone closer to Washington wants to carry the ball on the latter. 02:13 < lcafiero> What we will need -- and I think the e-mails on list regarding the issue deal with them -- is a program 02:13 < lcafiero> And funding 02:13 < jds2001> what groups do we involve? 02:13 < lcafiero> And barring any questions, that's about the size of it. 02:13 < jds2001> ke4qqq and I were talking about packaging 02:13 < lcafiero> herlo has a pretty good handle on that part of it. 02:13 < jds2001> in order to reduce the backlog of reviews. 02:14 < lcafiero> (if our conversations with SCaLE are any indication) 02:14 < tibbs|h> Someone mention package reviews? 02:14 < jds2001> tibbs|h: :) 02:14 * herlo is here 02:15 < jds2001> tibbs|h: what we want is to get a FAD together in order to get sponsors in the smae room to work on the backlog. 02:15 < jds2001> is that a reasonable thing? 02:15 < tibbs|h> Forgive me; what's FAD? 02:15 < lcafiero> I think that could be part of it, and something herlo mentioned today with SCaLE 02:15 * ke4qqq thinks so 02:15 < lcafiero> I think 02:15 < jds2001> a "Fedora Activity Day" 02:15 < lcafiero> FAD = Fedora Activity Day 02:15 < tibbs|h> Ah. 02:15 < ke4qqq> but then I have a vested interest. 02:15 < jds2001> kinda like a mini-FUDCon that's quite focused. 02:16 < tibbs|h> Honestly I would have tried that at the fudcon hackfests had I not been so ill. 02:16 < lcafiero> As spevack has outlined it, probably micro FUDCon may be more accurate, but with a lot of them 02:16 < tibbs|h> We've done it before and it has worked, though not to the degree I would have liked. 02:16 < djf_jeff> I personally like the idea of FAD, the goal is really clear and targeted 02:17 < lcafiero> question to djf_jeff 02:18 < tibbs|h> Anyway, anything that helps review packages is great. 02:18 < lcafiero> djf_jeff, did you say there was an event where your're at? 02:18 < lcafiero> *you're 02:19 < tibbs|h> I won't be there (unless someone wants to fly me there) but I'm happy to hang around on IRC whenever people are meeting and answer questions. 02:19 < djf_jeff> lcafiero: I think that is the next point of the meeting after the FAD discussion 02:19 < lcafiero> Oh, got it. 02:20 < tibbs|h> Feel free to ping me if I can do anythin. 02:20 < jds2001> lcafiero: when are we doing packaging? 02:20 * DemonJester steps away for a few minutes 02:20 < jds2001> i think having tibbs|h would be invaluable :) 02:20 < jds2001> he's the head of the review SIG 02:21 < lcafiero> jds2001: good question. I don't know. 02:21 < jds2001> so we should budget to get him to whereever and whenever we do it. 02:22 < lcafiero> jds2001, if you mean which FAD, we can schedule it for SCaLE 02:22 -!- inode0 [n=inode0@fedora/inode0] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:22 * lcafiero may be having problems with irc -- anyone else? 02:23 < jds2001> not i 02:23 < djf_jeff> Small question, is there a plan to make FAD available on the net, ex: a irc channel, a wiki page with a todo list, etc, so people not able to make it can contribute? 02:23 * DemonJester is back 02:23 < tibbs|h> I just looked up SCaLE, though, and I'm unfortunately occupied that weekend. 02:23 < tibbs|h> If indeed it's Feb 20-22. 02:23 -!- inode0 [n=inode0@fedora/inode0] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:24 < jds2001> it is. :( 02:24 < herlo> it is 02:24 < tibbs|h> Have to run now, though; back in 12 minutes. 02:24 < jds2001> maybe do it at LFNW instead? 02:24 < lcafiero> djf_jeff, it/they could be, but I think by nature -- with there being a lot of them and regional, etc., it may not have to be 02:24 < inode0> sigh 02:24 * djf_jeff is sorry for his english skills, french is my native language, try to do the best! 02:24 < lcafiero> but that's my opinion, not fact. 02:25 < jds2001> djf_jeff: you're doing fine :) 02:25 < djf_jeff> lcafiero: I understand 02:25 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: yes we can do that, but honestly it's not like being isolated from things going on in your normal life, which is hard to do if you are right there with them. 02:25 < lcafiero> If we have the resources, we could do what was done at FUDCon, and I think herlo had a hand in that. 02:25 < ke4qqq> moonwalk? 02:25 < DemonJester> lol 02:25 < herlo> heh 02:26 < ke4qqq> lcafiero: what are you talking about? 02:26 < jds2001> audio streaming, i think 02:26 < herlo> ambkits would be my guess 02:26 < ke4qqq> see what I mean 02:26 * lcafiero is responding to djf_jeff who asked if there was going to be a video feed, etc. 02:27 < ke4qqq> ahhhh sorry 02:27 * herlo isn't where he's supposed to be 02:28 < djf_jeff> not necessarily a video feed, but more a way to participate on specific goal in the FAD without being there physically 02:28 -!- lcafiero_ [n=lcafiero(a)h-66-167-204-23.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:28 -!- spoleeba [n=one@fedora/Jef] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:28 < djf_jeff> but I know it's not really the point of FAD 02:30 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: yeah so the added benefit to FAD is lack of distractions or increased focus 02:31 -!- rwmjones [n=rwmjones(a)87.127.66.208] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:31 < djf_jeff> yeah, effectively, it remove a good advantage of the FAD 02:32 < lcafiero> So at this point I think we should nail down what we want to accomplish at SCaLE 02:32 < lcafiero> Not tonight, maybe, but hash it out on list 02:33 < lcafiero> and I know there has already been discussion on list and here about what to schedule. 02:35 < inode0> sorry I am having problems tonight guys 02:36 * lcafiero is also 02:36 < crossbytes> same . it took 4 times to log in 02:37 < lcafiero> Is anyone else having trouble? my irc tends to be . . . choppy is a good way to describe it. 02:37 < jds2001> no trouble at all. 02:37 < djf_jeff> it seems to be good here 02:37 * lcafiero uses xchat and gets laughed at by his esteemed colleagues. 02:37 < inode0> I mostly have not been here and have no idea where we are 02:37 * jds2001 uses irssi on my vps 02:37 -!- rwmjones [n=rwmjones(a)87.127.66.208] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:37 < lcafiero> I think we're finished with SCaLE and ready to go on to the next item 02:38 < inode0> jds2001: could you send me the log after the meeting since I did not capture it tonigh 02:38 < jds2001> inode0: sure 02:39 < inode0> so next would be Montreal, please start on that djf_jeff 02:39 < djf_jeff> ok, I have seen in the previous meetings minutes that there is a call for an Ambassador to do something at the Montreal Linux Symposium, what is the plan? 02:39 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: the plan 02:40 < ke4qqq> is for us to find someone to run it 02:40 < ke4qqq> which thus far we have failed at 02:40 < DemonJester> preferably someone local 02:40 < inode0> we are looking for you to make our plan :) 02:41 < djf_jeff> inode0: ;) good, but this being my first meeting, I don't really know what to plan! 02:41 < inode0> well, run something - could be a FAD, could be something else 02:41 < djf_jeff> ah ok, good 02:41 < inode0> something for fedora at MLS 02:41 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: we can help you with that - we really just need someone on the ground to help 02:42 < inode0> are there booths at MLS? 02:42 -!- linuxguru [n=linuxgur@unaffiliated/linuxguru] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:42 < djf_jeff> I cannot confirm my presence tonight, I need to see with my employer what can be done for the Symposium dates, I can return in a future meeting about that 02:42 < ke4qqq> probably, but they wanted a hackfest as well..... 02:42 < lcafiero> Or check in on the e-mail list? 02:42 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: mailing list may be easier 02:43 < inode0> they basically were offering us space to use how we want 02:43 < djf_jeff> ke4qqq: ambassador list? 02:43 -!- lcafiero_ [n=lcafiero(a)h-66-167-204-23.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:44 * lcafiero is still here 02:44 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: yes 02:44 < herlo> hi 02:44 < ke4qqq> hola herlo 02:44 < herlo> I've been lurking 02:45 < inode0> djf_jeff: we could use some help generally with Canada I think 02:45 < lcafiero> +1 02:45 < djf_jeff> I will be glad to offer it the best I can 02:46 < inode0> great, thanks 02:46 < inode0> so we are going to continue with MLS on the f-a-l? 02:47 < lcafiero> +1 02:47 < djf_jeff> +1, I have take a note to check my availability for the dates and to think what we can do there 02:47 < inode0> That is great djf_jeff 02:47 < inode0> Anyone have anything to report related to FUDcon? 02:47 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: where are you at in CA? 02:48 < herlo> djf_jeff: put yerself on our regions page :) 02:48 < herlo> ke4qqq: can give you the link 02:48 * ianweller has a bad want to respond to inode0's query with "What you missed at FUDConF11" from ianweller.org 02:48 < djf_jeff> there? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#NorthernAmerica 02:48 < herlo> no 02:49 < djf_jeff> I am from Quebec City 02:49 < ke4qqq> ianweller: so did I 02:49 < inode0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions 02:49 < herlo> djf_jeff: always use https on fp.o otherwise you can't edit 02:50 < ianweller> i have a greasemonkey script to make sure fp.o/wiki is always on https. i should fix it and post it sometime. 02:51 < djf_jeff> ok it's done 02:52 < inode0> fine, moving on them 02:52 < inode0> then 02:52 < herlo> ianweller: u should 02:52 < inode0> how to proceed with scheduling meetings? is everyone here agreeable to herlo's suggestion? 02:53 < ke4qqq> which was? 02:53 < herlo> biweekly? 02:53 < inode0> 2nd Tue and 4th Thu was it? 02:53 < jds2001> we tend to use an hour every week! 02:53 < jds2001> how can we go biweekly??? 02:53 < herlo> we can 02:53 * lcafiero thought there was a Saturday involved, but he could be wrong 02:54 < herlo> that was a suggestion 02:54 < jds2001> we'll still be meeting at 3AM, oh well :) 02:54 < lcafiero> got it 02:54 * ke4qqq argues that it should be the same day/time regardless of frequency 02:54 < herlo> but sat/sun generally is harder for some 02:54 * jds2001 too, I couldn't possibly keep track. 02:54 * DemonJester agrees with ke4qqq 02:54 < inode0> you guys don't have calendars? 02:54 < djf_jeff> +1 for ke4qqq 02:55 < jds2001> nope 02:55 < DemonJester> yes but also personal lives as well 02:55 < lcafiero> jds2001, in the best of all possible worlds, much can be hashed out on the list 02:55 < herlo> ke4qqq: I'll remind you 02:55 < lcafiero> but you do have a good point re time 02:55 * DemonJester asks herlo to remind me as well 02:55 < herlo> the problem qith the same day is that it fails to involve others who can't make tuesdays 02:55 < herlo> demonjester: I'll remind everyone :) 02:56 * ke4qqq is familiar with the problem 02:56 < ke4qqq> but also reminds herlo of his comment - those who want to will show up 02:56 < inode0> ke4qqq: what precisely would you propose 02:56 < herlo> ke4qqq: hehe, sure 02:57 < herlo> ke4qqq: I've since been convinced 02:57 < herlo> that others can help more :) 02:57 < ke4qqq> IF the group of people who show up regularly decide that they want to move it - move it to a different day that stays the same all of the time 02:57 < ke4qqq> so if you do Thursday at 3am, each meeting stays at thursday 02:57 < herlo> and since I can make both (most likely) it's good 02:58 < ke4qqq> frequency is a different issue. 02:58 < inode0> ok, those who show up seem content to me 02:58 < crossbytes> the thing that i noticed in fal is that the only people commenting is the people that go to the Tu meeting... 02:58 < inode0> and one person who can't 02:58 < herlo> ke4qqq: what if we try it for 2-4 months to see? 02:59 < ke4qqq> ohhh interesting observation 02:59 < inode0> two people who can't 02:59 < ke4qqq> so are we talking about a single person wanting to move it? seems like Tuesday works for most of us? 02:59 < herlo> inode0: max? 03:00 < inode0> and the guy who raised this last year 03:00 < ke4qqq> Max doesn't count - he isn't in NA, and he is from RH 03:00 -!- jwb [n=jwboyer@fedora/jwb] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:00 < djf_jeff> personally, I cannot attend on Thu for the moment (both personal reasons and because of the Quebec LUG) 03:00 < inode0> I'm sorry, any FAmSCo member who wants to come to our meetings counts in my book 03:00 < ke4qqq> we are NOT adjusting schedule fro a @RH person. 03:00 < herlo> ke4qqq: I dont think it was suggested to accommodate one other but rather as an opportunity to spread our wings 03:00 < ke4qqq> that's the opposite of how it should be 03:01 < jds2001> ke4qqq: but if I were in the netherlands temporarily would you adjust the schedule for me? 03:01 < ke4qqq> no 03:01 < inode0> and the proposed time suggested by herlo does not accommodate max anyway 03:01 < herlo> I'm not moving for any one person, @rh or not.. 03:01 < ke4qqq> jds2001: I'd tell you to get involved with EMEA 03:01 < jds2001> if I already am? 03:01 < ke4qqq> while you were there 03:01 < inode0> timeout 03:02 < inode0> we aren't adjusting the schedule for max 03:02 < herlo> I'm interested in seeing who else might attend if we had two available days 03:02 < ke4qqq> then great - I am not changing the schedule to accomodate one person not in the region for a year. 03:02 < inode0> while we are adjusting the schedule I think we should consider max 03:02 < ke4qqq> We've asked, and per crossbytes gotten one response other than Max. 03:02 * DemonJester thinks is will be the same that attend now 03:02 < inode0> if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out 03:02 < ke4qqq> what does it cost us if it fails? 03:02 < herlo> are we adjusting the schedule? ke4qqq seems adamant we shouldn't 03:03 * ke4qqq isn't saying that at all 03:03 * herlo wants to see what will happen if we try it 03:03 * ke4qqq is saying we shouldn't adjust to accomodate Max's schedule. 03:03 < herlo> and we're not 03:03 < inode0> Here is what I'm going to propose tonight - the rest of this quarter we move to 1st and 3rd Tue at the same time 03:03 < ke4qqq> I am happy to consider other times and frequencies 03:03 < crossbytes> my 2 cents .. i do not think we should adjust but adding an extra day a month to test the theory out might be good.. 03:04 < inode0> Beginning in Mar those who want it different can make their case on f-a-l?! 03:04 < inode0> Or in time to begin in Mar? 03:04 < herlo> crossbytes, I could go for that 03:05 * ke4qqq likes inode0's idea - but thinks we should prolly look at it as we proceed. 03:05 < ke4qqq> herlo: are your reminders still going out? 03:05 < herlo> ke4qqq: I didnt do it tonight but yeah 03:05 * ke4qqq thought it was automated 03:06 -!- nman64 [n=n-man@fedora/nman64] has joined #fedora-meeting 03:06 < herlo> nope 03:06 < ke4qqq> inode0 has made a proposal, thoughts? flames? comments? 03:06 < herlo> though it can be. I might ask for resources to make it automatic 03:07 < lcafiero> +1 to inode0 03:07 < herlo> I say we do both inode0's and crossbytes ideas 03:07 < djf_jeff> +1, I think we can test the proposal 03:07 * lcafiero can go for that, too 03:07 < DemonJester> I think we should do one or the other personaly 03:07 < ke4qqq> +1 from me too 03:07 < DemonJester> personally.. 03:07 < herlo> run 1st and 3rd Tues and 4th Thurs 03:07 < ke4qqq> DemonJester: why is that? 03:07 < inode0> I don't know if a one off meeting is a fair test but I'm game to try it 03:08 < DemonJester> are we not talking about bi weekly? 03:08 < inode0> why stop there? how about a weekend during the day too? 03:08 * herlo will check his calendar to make sure those dates werq 03:08 < herlo> inode0 feel free 03:08 < inode0> how about someone/anyone who wants it changed propose a time to test rather than us doing it? 03:09 * lcafiero will be away from the keyboard for a few minutes -- dinner is on the table. 03:09 < ke4qqq> well the thing is - historically non-same day/time meetings have failed....regardless of organization - people are creatures of habit. 03:09 < herlo> inode0: I thought you proposed it :) 03:09 -!- Netsplit brown.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rdieter 03:09 < ke4qqq> herlo: no he proposed changing frequency 03:09 < inode0> and I suspect half of us won't show up at any other time for a one off meeting 03:09 < ke4qqq> not date 03:09 < DemonJester> ke4qqq: I missed herlo's message of 1st and 3rd tues and 4th thurs. 03:09 < inode0> but we would if that were the real meeting time 03:10 < herlo> thus my request to try it for a few months 03:10 < inode0> oh, I misunderstood - ok 03:10 < inode0> thought just try it one week 03:10 < ke4qqq> same 3 month time period? 03:11 < herlo> sure 03:11 < herlo> why not 03:11 < inode0> let's run the test in Q1 and iron it out on f-a-l? 03:11 < inode0> mainly we need a time that makes whoever isn't coming happy 03:11 < herlo> so we're not doing any of this until q1? 03:12 * herlo was planning on starting asap 03:12 < inode0> I'd like to go to 1st and 3rd Tue for the rest of Q4 03:12 < inode0> we have a guest already scheduled for 1st Tue next month 03:12 < crossbytes> is the q1 q2 .. fiscal? 03:12 < herlo> no 03:12 * DemonJester apologizes but I need to leave. I will go with whatever you guys decide. Just remind me herlo ;) 03:12 * herlo has to go 03:13 < jds2001> herlo: yes it is 03:13 < jds2001> herlo: red hat's fiscal year 03:13 < djf_jeff> yeah, because normally, we are already in Q1 03:13 < jds2001> March 1 - Feb 28 is Red Hat's fiscal year. 03:13 < inode0> fiscal year starts in March 03:13 < jds2001> so we're in fiscal Q4 right now. 03:13 < inode0> so we are in Q4 now 03:13 < djf_jeff> a ok, based on Red Hat fiscal 03:13 < inode0> yes 03:14 < crossbytes> can i suggest to put that on the FAD and Events wiki 03:14 < inode0> So I'm suggesting we finish out this month and next with a couple of weeks off and start something new in March 03:14 -!- ldimaggi_ [n=ldimaggi(a)c-76-19-171-76.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:15 < inode0> or decide to not start something new, either way 03:15 < jds2001> we alredy have mmcgrath lined up. 03:16 < inode0> yes, 1st Tue in Feb 03:16 < inode0> it is on his schedule and I think we should keep that meeting 03:16 < inode0> no matter what else we do 03:17 < ke4qqq> +1 03:17 < jds2001> and why would we otherwise take a month hiatus???? 03:17 < djf_jeff> +1 for 1st and 3rd Tue for the moment 03:19 < inode0> I'll post to f-a-l the plan, that we are basically happy with Tue, and ask anyone wishing to change it to propose a good time and we'll schedule a test drive in March?! 03:19 < jds2001> sure 03:19 < crossbytes> +1 03:19 < ke4qqq> +1 03:20 < djf_jeff> ok, and do we change anything for the moment? 03:20 < inode0> we will immediately go to 1st and 3rd Tue I think if I understand 03:20 < ke4qqq> inode0: you are the one stating the plan so I hope you understand 03:20 < ke4qqq> :) 03:21 < inode0> If I don't ke4qqq can explain my plan to me later 03:21 < inode0> let's go to tasks now 03:22 < inode0> anyone do their contact speakers bits? 03:22 < inode0> if not I'll change next report date to the 20th 03:23 < inode0> ambassador kit creation report is due after FUDcon 03:23 < inode0> I think we say done? 03:23 < jds2001> ambkits were created. 03:23 < ke4qqq> +1 03:23 < ke4qqq> and shipped out 03:23 < inode0> will move to completed 03:24 < inode0> event box task - shall we see about extra funds going to buy one of these in Q4 03:24 < ke4qqq> we should 03:25 < inode0> I'll task myself with doing that too 03:25 < inode0> it is late but are there any open floor things for this evening? 03:25 * ke4qqq has one 03:26 < ke4qqq> or two actually 03:26 < inode0> ke4qqq has the floor until he yields 03:26 < ke4qqq> ok....1. 03:27 < ke4qqq> we have begun the process for evaluating npo status or umbrella - SFLC has assigned us pro bono counsel 03:27 < ke4qqq> that is all for number 1 03:27 < ke4qqq> updates will follow as known 03:28 < inode0> question: who is we? 03:28 < inode0> since I know nothing about this 03:28 < ke4qqq> essentially FAMNA 03:28 < ke4qqq> we talked about it at FADNA 03:28 < ke4qqq> and said we would explore it 03:28 < ke4qqq> so rather than our amateur minds trying to do so 03:29 < ke4qqq> a guy at fudcon who works for SFLC has hooked us up with SFLC 03:29 < ke4qqq> to help us evaluate our options 03:29 < ke4qqq> and determine the least risky way. 03:29 -!- nman64 is now known as nman64_away 03:29 < jds2001> remy is a good guy. 03:29 < ke4qqq> whether that be under the Software Freedom Conservancy 03:29 < ke4qqq> or on our own 03:29 < ke4qqq> and in what state if necessary 03:29 < inode0> this should be documented on the wiki 03:29 < ke4qqq> yeah REMY is 03:29 < ke4qqq> Greg suggested that I not 03:30 < inode0> sigh, I'll shut up for tonight 03:30 < ke4qqq> not that we want to hide it from the community - but he said we don't want to get RH legal involved 03:30 < ke4qqq> until we have our stuff done 03:30 * herlo is back now 03:31 < ke4qqq> he suggested that we follow EMEA's lead. 03:31 < ke4qqq> and 'just do it' 03:31 < ke4qqq> ready for #2? 03:31 < ke4qqq> or more questions? 03:31 < herlo> is this stuff going to be on the irc log? 03:32 < jds2001> sure 03:32 < ke4qqq> yes 03:32 < ke4qqq> but that's only posted to the FAL list 03:32 < ke4qqq> which requires membership to view 03:32 < herlo> okay, just wondered if we have a concern there is all 03:32 -!- GeroldKa [n=GeroldKa@fedora/geroldka] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:32 < ke4qqq> and to the Meeting: namespace which isn't in default search 03:32 < ke4qqq> anything else? 03:33 -!- GeroldKa [n=GeroldKa@fedora/geroldka] has joined #fedora-meeting 03:33 < ke4qqq> ready for 2? 03:33 < jds2001> dutr 03:33 < ke4qqq> dutr? 03:33 < jds2001> sure 03:33 * jds2001 cant type 03:33 < ke4qqq> 2: OLPC has recently layed off almost ALL of their engineering staff 03:33 < ke4qqq> and they will be relying on the community for a LOT of work 03:33 < ke4qqq> and by community I mean Fedora 03:34 < ke4qqq> so I pitched that OLPC should let FAMNA handle XO developer program (the way developers get XOs) and that we use that as a tool to rapidly increase OLPC contributor numbers. 03:35 < inode0> no, it doesn't require anything to view 03:35 < jds2001> huh? 03:35 < ke4qqq> Greg seconded the idea ......sooo hopefully we'll see what they say in a day or so. 03:35 < inode0> f-a-l is open to read 03:35 < ke4qqq> no it isn't 03:36 < ke4qqq> is it? 03:36 < jds2001> yes it is :) 03:36 < ke4qqq> ahhh well 03:36 < jds2001> it's not a big worry, I'm sure. 03:36 < inode0> and this should not be done in secret 03:36 < inode0> I doubt Red Hat legal reads it 03:36 < ke4qqq> it's not being done in secret - I just told everyone...we just aren't telling the lawyers 03:36 < ke4qqq> we've openly talked about it at FADNA 03:36 < crossbytes> can you post there answer to the list about the XO 03:37 < ke4qqq> crossbytes: absolutely 03:37 * jds2001 is gonna do some 8.2.1 testing soonish. 03:37 * ke4qqq has 8.2.1 loaded and likes the improvements. 03:37 < jds2001> have the files downloaded, might put it on tonight. 03:38 < djf_jeff> ke4qqq: what is the percentage of stuff done by the Fedora community in the XO project? do you have any numbers? 03:38 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: prevoiously they just used our bits.... 03:38 < jds2001> most packages aare ours. 03:38 < jds2001> there's a very few branched for olpc-4 03:39 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: in the future - we'll essentially do all of the QA, packaging, virtually everything.....they have only one engineer left at OLPC 03:39 < jds2001> [jstanley@rugrat ~]$ koji list-tagged dist-olpc4 | wc -l 03:39 < jds2001> 42 03:39 < ke4qqq> jds2001: right, and they are working at reducing those 03:39 < djf_jeff> thank you, seems like a good opportunity for the Fedora community 03:39 < ke4qqq> indeed! 03:41 < ke4qqq> eof from me unless there are any other questions. 03:41 * lcafiero is back 03:42 < inode0> anything else from anyone? 03:42 < djf_jeff> not for me 03:42 < lcafiero> nor me 03:42 * jds2001 has one thing 03:42 < inode0> go ahead please 03:43 < jds2001> i *might* be doing a presentatiaon next wednesday for ~50 03:43 < ke4qqq> cool! 03:43 < jds2001> depnds on if they need me :) 03:43 < jds2001> the other speaker could fall through at NYLUG 03:43 < ke4qqq> what do you need from us? 03:44 < jds2001> nothing i dont think, just FYI 03:44 < jds2001> I got an ambkit at fudcon.] 03:44 < ke4qqq> jds2001: on the event page yet? 03:44 -!- hanthana [n=hanthana(a)124.43.147.235] has joined #fedora-meeting 03:44 < jds2001> not yet confirmed. 03:45 < ianweller> oh god, we've broken back into the tradition of 105-minute meetings again? 03:45 < herlo> longest meeting evar!!! 03:45 < inode0> sadly 03:46 < jds2001> this is why i have reservations about every other week :) 03:46 < inode0> but that means we have things to talk about which isn't all bad :) 03:46 * jds2001 will still be up at 3AM eastern meeting! 03:46 < inode0> won't happen jds2001 - we'll type faster 03:46 < ke4qqq> lol 03:46 < inode0> we will meet next week again ... 03:46 * ke4qqq twice monthly meetings come with speedtyping lessons 03:47 < ke4qqq> :) 03:47 < lcafiero> heh 03:47 < inode0> let's wrap this one - thanks everyone and welcome djf_jeff 03:47 < inode0> 5 03:47 < inode0> 4 03:47 < lcafiero> bienvenue djf_jeff 03:47 < inode0> 3 03:47 < djf_jeff> thank you! 03:47 < inode0> 2 03:47 < inode0> 1 03:47 < herlo> welcom djf_jeff 03:47 < inode0> EOF

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Re: COSSFESST 09
by Alex 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Andrew, I think the Fedora Ambassadors are a good place to start. I am copying the list on my reply. I will check out your event web site and blog about it too, so it gets onto Planet Fedora. Cheers, a On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:38 PM, <andrew(a)a2-technologies.com> wrote: > Alex > > I am emailing you because I would like to request any assistance you > can give us in promoting our event this year. > > COSSFEST is a two day event featuring multiple speaking tracks and > workshops demonstrating the use of Open Source to lower costs, and > increase the capabilities and competitiveness of your business. > > COSSFEST brings together thought leaders in the technology industry, > technology professionals, businessmen, and computer enthusiasts to > share the latest news and Open Source know-how. > > COSSFEST 2009 will be held April 17th and 18th 2009 at the Coast > Plaza Hotel in Calgary > > We are actively seeking sponsors for our event and the Fedora Project is > of course one of our higher profile candidates. Fedora and Linux go hand > in hand with our Open source agenda. > > If you are not the correct person to be speaking to, would you be so kind > as to provide me the correct contact information? > > Our website address is http://www.cossfest.ca > > > Please let me know if there is anything you can do to assist with our > cause? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Cistra MailScanner and is believed to be clean. > > -- AMaier Art and Photography http://amaier.net

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FOSDEM 2009 Schedule updated
by Frederic Hornain 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Dear *, FYI, you will find the final FOSDEM 09 schedule at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009#Speakers_in_t… Best Regards Frederic

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APAC ambassadors meeting co-chair.
by susmit shannigrahi 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

Hi list, This year, we are going to have a lot of attentions to APAC. In order to ensure that important meetings does not get delayed or cancelled in my absence, lets appoint a co-chair for the meetings. Heherson Pagcaliwagan from Fedora Philippines has volunteered for it. In case anyone else does volunteer for the job, please let us know, we shall have a open discussion then. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

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About Picture Book.....
by Doug Berry 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

I contacted a friend at LSI about making full-color interior hard-cover books. As soon as I hear something I will post it here. -- w Douglas Berry -- slasherzee(a)fedoraproject.org

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Davdunc from Austin, TX area, USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Watter1985 from China https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jfsaucier from Quebec, Canada welcome back https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aaqj from Brazil Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Meeting logs in the wiki
by David Nalley 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

So in conjunction with DocsProject's renaming efforts if you post meeting logs to the wiki please take note of the following. DocsProject has deprecated the nested hierarchy page naming convention: Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-10-26 The new convention is: Meeting:Ambassadors 2006-10-26 For FAmSCo the page naming convention convention is now: Meeting:FAmSCo 2006-10-26 Mediawiki will automatically add underscores appropriately, so please use spaces. If you have questions, please ask ianweller in #fedora-docs on irc.freenode.net :) That is all.

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REMINDER French Meeting today 1930UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-01-11 / 19:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (11 jan.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Thomas Canniot

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Request for Packaging Blueman for Fedora
by Rishikesh Sharma 10 Jan '09

10 Jan '09

Hi All, I request fedora packager to create Blueman rpm for Fedora. Its a nice bluetooth manager for Linux. Ubuntu has already included in thier respository. It allows any common user to connect any bluetooth device with ease. It also allow you to connect gprs internet connection from mobile without having to know commands. Regards, Rishikesh Sharma Fedora Ambassador Imphal, Manipur.

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 10 Jan '09

10 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ajamison from USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bouska from Brussels, Belgium Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Hi guys - Hello world
by sandro＠4nix.com.br 10 Jan '09

10 Jan '09

Hi Guys This is my firts message: "Hello world" bye Sandro Melo

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important FOSDEM details
by Max Spevack 09 Jan '09

09 Jan '09

Hi Ambassadors, FOSDEM planning is coming together well. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009 I need everyone to do a few things before Wednesday: (1) Make sure that you have signed up on the wiki if you are attending. (2) Sign up to give a talk in the Fedora Devroom, please! We need more speakers. There are a few details that you must provide -- see the wiki page and email them to me. I will gather everything together and give it to Frederic and the FOSDEM organizers. (3) Look at the list of stuff we need on the wiki and see what you can bring. Thank you. --Max

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Stanleythwin from Yangon, Myanmar https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Amoupgu from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ansarrehbar from India Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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the fosdem roster is quite impressive
by Max Spevack 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Wow, fosdem has more people signed up than LinuxTag did last year. It should be a heck of an event. In 2010, we might need to go solo with our own devroom. :) --Max

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APAC ambassadors meeting. 11th January 2009 03:00UTC.
by susmit shannigrahi 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Hi, We shall meet on 11th January 2009, Sunday at 03:00 UTC. Please find time at your place here[1]. The details and agenda is here[2]. Please update it with your own agenda. See you all at #fedora-meeting on freenode. Thanks. [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=11&year=20… [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-11 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

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Possible projector for EventBox.
by Jason Fenner 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

I saw on the list recently some conversation regarding the possibility of purchasing some type of backdrop to include with the EventBox that a graphic like the Fedora logo could be projected on. Recently, I ran across a projector that is very small and light weight. The cost is also quite moderate. I was thinking that it might have the potential of being a projector we'd like to order and include in the EventBox. It is sold by Dell: Dell On The Go DLP Projector Product# M109S MSRP: $499.00 http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Projectors/productdetail.aspx?c… I wanted to send the idea out there for everyone's consideration. --Jason

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FOSDEM speaking schedule (DRAFT)
by Max Spevack 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Here's what we're looking at right now, guys. Please speak up if (a) you are not on the list and you are supposed to be or (b) you need to have a different time slot. There is currently one open spot remaining, on Sunday at 10:00 AM. Our goal is to finalize this list ASAP. ========================= Fedora/CentOS devroom proposed schedule. Saturday Feb 7: 10:00 n/a (devroom closed) 11:00 n/a (devroom closed) 12:00 Thomas Canniot 13:00 CentOS talk 14:00 Max Spevack 15:00 Simo Sorce 16:00 Tomeu Vizoso & Greg DeKoenigsberg 17:00 Raphael Pinson Sunday Feb 8: 10:00 *open* 11:00 CentOS talk 12:00 Christoph Wickert 13:00 Robert Lazzurs & Jasper Capel 14:00 Luca Foppiano & Francesco Crippa 15:00 CentOS talk 16:00 Chitlesh Goorah

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FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-01-07
by inode0 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

* Announcements - FUDconF11 - Congratulations to fugolini and kital * Event Box - Audio - herlo will touch base with those interested in adding audio capabilities to the event boxes and try to have a plan to execute before the end of Q4. * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] - mmcgrath agreed to visit with us on our 2/3 meeting. - Meeting wiki cleanup complete. * Open Floor - Media box discussion in preparation for FUDcon. - FUDcon window decoration planning. - Reminder to bring cameras to FUDcon if you can help with pictures. I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight.

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FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-01-07
by inode0 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

(08:00:08 PM) inode0: FAmNA meeting time (08:00:17 PM) ianweller: woo (08:00:17 PM) QuickStart: yea (08:00:21 PM) jsmidt: yea! (08:00:22 PM) inode0: Roll call ... please .fas yourself to help me out (08:00:23 PM) QuickStart: up high (08:00:31 PM) QuickStart: .fas luisotero2 (08:00:32 PM) zodbot: QuickStart: luisotero2 '' <luisoterofc9(a)gmail.com> (08:00:37 PM) herlo has changed the topic to: FAmNA Meeting Now - Agenda https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-06 (08:00:54 PM) ianweller: .fas ianweller (08:00:55 PM) zodbot: ianweller: ianweller 'Ian Weller' <ianweller(a)gmail.com> (08:01:06 PM) jsmidt: .fas jsmidt (08:01:07 PM) zodbot: jsmidt: 'jsmidt' Not Found! (08:01:12 PM) jsmidt: boo! (08:01:17 PM) herlo: .fas herlo (08:01:18 PM) zodbot: herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1(a)gmail.com> (08:01:22 PM) ianweller: and that's why .fas sucks for meetings ^_^ (08:01:30 PM) jds2001: .fas jstanley (08:01:31 PM) zodbot: jds2001: jstanley 'Jon Stanley' <jonstanley(a)gmail.com> (08:01:49 PM) inode0: add something to just give me the fas name (08:02:25 PM) inode0: Announcements (08:02:33 PM) inode0: FUDconF11 is soonish (08:03:06 PM) herlo: you mean like Friday? (08:03:17 PM) inode0: Congratulations to fugolini and kital for new/old FAmSCo positions (08:03:22 PM) QuickStart: yep woohoo of course I wont be there (08:03:27 PM) jds2001: soonish would be 2-3 weeks away :) (08:03:32 PM) jds2001: soon is friday :) (08:04:09 PM) inode0: Only agenda item tonight is Event Box - Audio (08:04:28 PM) inode0: This came up during the board public meeting today (08:04:40 PM) ianweller: (for the record i have an agenda item to interject whenever convienient, prolly at the end) (08:04:50 PM) jds2001: right, was thinking we could use lessons learned from fudcon. (08:04:52 PM) ***herlo is excited (08:04:55 PM) inode0: ianweller: go add it to the agenda (08:05:05 PM) inode0: :) (08:05:12 PM) ***lcafiero apologizes for being late (08:05:38 PM) inode0: ok, so there is a desire and funding available to add some audio gear to event boxes (08:05:38 PM) ianweller: (actually this will fit better under open floor) (08:05:46 PM) herlo: for what? (08:05:56 PM) QuickStart: live broadcast? (08:06:16 PM) inode0: to move toward allowing those not present to participate in meetings/events remotely (08:06:40 PM) QuickStart: yeah that is cool (08:07:10 PM) herlo: inode0: how so? (08:07:25 PM) inode0: The hope now is that herlo will just volunteer to follow up on this during and after FUDcon and find suitable gear to buy with Q4 funds (08:07:32 PM) ianweller: are we also going to include instructions on connecting it to whatever streaming server herlo invents? (08:07:44 PM) herlo: ianweller: I would hope so (08:07:51 PM) ianweller: yeah so would i ;) (08:07:58 PM) ianweller: otherwise, what use (08:08:01 PM) jds2001: herlo: what about darkice? (08:08:05 PM) herlo: ianweller: icecast has that funcationality already (08:08:11 PM) ***jds2001 not entirely sure what that does. (08:08:12 PM) herlo: jds2001: darkice is the client (08:08:16 PM) inode0: I think I'd rather the technical questions and strategic planning be done with the board people who brought this up (08:08:17 PM) jds2001: ahhhh (08:08:21 PM) ianweller: herlo: i thought you were putting icecast on fedora infra (08:08:34 PM) herlo: ianweller: I am thinking that's why it got brought up by the board (08:08:44 PM) ***herlo hasn't seen the log yet though so i don't know how (08:09:08 PM) inode0: It came up after someone mentioned how nice it would be to sit in on a meeting without being in the same location (08:09:17 PM) herlo: inode0: I'm not clear how putting audio equip into the eventbox helps sharing media (08:09:21 PM) QuickStart: how soon will we now if the audio is up (08:09:24 PM) herlo: with those who can't make it (08:09:38 PM) inode0: but it was the board's idea to add stuff to the event box (08:09:40 PM) ***ke4qqq is late (08:09:55 PM) inode0: I think it might just the the start or part of a bigger plan (08:10:11 PM) inode0: I'm not equipped to explain their thinking tonight though, sorry (08:10:24 PM) QuickStart: i c (08:10:41 PM) herlo: inode0: that's fine (08:10:47 PM) jds2001: maybe the eventbox isn't the right place (08:10:49 PM) herlo: I was just curious of the rationale behind it (08:10:57 PM) jds2001: but rahter some sort of "SupaEventBox" (08:11:04 PM) herlo: I think there's value of having audio in the EventBox (08:11:07 PM) inode0: Let's just let herlo ping the relevant parties after reading the transcript and work with them to do something appropriate (08:11:15 PM) herlo: I will for sure :) (08:11:34 PM) inode0: great, I'll add a vague task for that (08:11:54 PM) QuickStart: well let me know how it turns out for setup (08:12:00 PM) jds2001: will hopefully get more concrete after fudcon (08:12:04 PM) inode0: which brings us to tasks if ianweller is waiting for the open floor (08:12:13 PM) QuickStart: Can someone video tap the setup (08:12:14 PM) QuickStart: ? (08:12:32 PM) jds2001: setup of what? (08:12:36 PM) inode0: mmcgrath agreed to visit with us on our 2/3 meeting (08:12:42 PM) herlo: QuickStart: video is being done at FUDCon (08:12:54 PM) QuickStart: sweet can't wait to watch the footage (08:13:01 PM) inode0: which task is this? (08:13:03 PM) QuickStart: jds2001 setup of audio in eventbox (08:13:47 PM) ***herlo has a couple small things to mention when ianweller is done (08:13:50 PM) inode0: back to tasks, are there any others who have anything to report (08:14:00 PM) ianweller: oh my turn? (08:14:07 PM) jds2001: not quite yet (08:14:08 PM) inode0: no (08:14:11 PM) ianweller: ok.' (08:14:21 PM) ***ianweller is getting beeps ;) (08:14:33 PM) inode0: oops, I completed the cleanup task for the 4 month backlog of meeting pages to the extent I could (08:14:52 PM) ke4qqq: ? (08:14:54 PM) ***ianweller applauds momentarily (08:15:17 PM) inode0: the meeting pages were not kept up, no links, no participants, etc. (08:15:31 PM) ***QuickStart ovation (08:15:38 PM) jds2001: ke4qqq: us north americans aint so formal around these parts. (08:15:46 PM) herlo: yeah, I can be blamed for much of the lack of links and such (08:15:50 PM) ke4qqq: did all of those go to the Meeting: namespace? (08:15:54 PM) ke4qqq: so can I (08:16:03 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: if you have logs from the last couple you ran I couldn't find them (08:16:29 PM) ***QuickStart puts on Drill Sargent Swag and yells' drop and give me twenty' to all na ambassadors (08:16:33 PM) ***QuickStart kids (08:16:34 PM) inode0: links https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings (08:16:47 PM) jds2001: i have logs going all the way back. (08:16:58 PM) jds2001: well to about the beginning of 2008 (08:17:12 PM) ke4qqq: I'll see if I have logs.....but jds2001 sounds like a canonical source (08:17:16 PM) jds2001: so if any are needed i should have them. (08:17:36 PM) ***ianweller puts on his docs hat (08:17:39 PM) inode0: 11/04 is one example - perhaps I just couldn't find the email of the log, I did find a summary (08:17:52 PM) ianweller: so umm not to add more annoyance to ya guys, but all the meetings are supposed to be moved into the Meetings: namespace relatively soonish. (08:18:08 PM) ***dowdle is late... new dude from Montana. (08:18:13 PM) QuickStart: well if you need someone to work I volunteer (08:18:19 PM) jds2001: dowdle: welcome (08:18:21 PM) QuickStart: I can do about a month (08:18:25 PM) ke4qqq: welcome dowdle (08:18:30 PM) inode0: ianweller: how will that annoy us? (08:18:33 PM) QuickStart: +1 (08:18:35 PM) herlo: welcome dowdle (08:18:44 PM) ke4qqq: ianweller: hence my question earlier - we can prolly get wikibot to do it for us though (08:18:45 PM) ianweller: inode0: oh i thought you had also moved pages in addition to that. (08:18:56 PM) ianweller: ke4qqq: why, yes you can! /me points *everybody* to wikirename.git (08:18:59 PM) herlo: that doesn't take long (08:19:01 PM) ianweller: but i'll talk more about that at fudcon. (08:19:18 PM) inode0: I move nothing, I only create a mess (08:19:26 PM) ke4qqq: what perms are needed for write access to wikirename.git? (08:19:48 PM) ianweller: ke4qqq: you only have to be in any hosted project (08:20:04 PM) ianweller: if you're not, you need access somehow on the server, so you can apply to gitwikirename. but that's not necessary if you have other hosted rights (08:20:08 PM) ke4qqq: ahhh cool I'll try and get that completed by end of Fudcon for our meetings (08:20:17 PM) inode0: ok, are there any other task list items to be reported on tonight? (08:20:40 PM) herlo: hi (08:20:44 PM) ianweller: ke4qqq: you might do a reimport of any more pages that have cropped up since G_work did a prefixindex dump (08:20:48 PM) jds2001: .fasinfo ke4qqq (08:20:49 PM) zodbot: jds2001: User: ke4qqq, Name: David Nalley, email: david(a)gnsa.us, Creation: 2006-02-21, IRC Nick: ke4qqq, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, Extension: 5100435 (08:20:50 PM) zodbot: jds2001: Approved Groups: cla_done fedorabugs docs ambassadors marketing news cla_fedora famsco gitrelease-notes gitelectionsguide gitinstall-guide (08:20:51 PM) zodbot: jds2001: Unapproved Groups: None (08:20:59 PM) herlo: I don't have any tasks to report, but I do have something to mention (08:21:01 PM) jds2001: yeah, you can just commit ke4qqq (08:21:18 PM) ke4qqq: cool (08:21:31 PM) inode0: ok, let's move to open floor and start with herlo (08:21:45 PM) herlo: yay! (08:22:01 PM) herlo: I'm just here to mention that I got an email about the media box (08:22:07 PM) herlo: from Axelilly (08:22:19 PM) herlo: he was interested in getting a wiki page up (08:22:33 PM) herlo: so I pointed him to the AmbassadorKit wiki page (08:22:37 PM) herlo: but I had a question (08:23:21 PM) herlo: I want to print a bunch of media box papers for anyone to create at FUDCon, is this a good idea? (08:23:44 PM) ianweller: i don't see why not (08:23:46 PM) herlo: thing is, I wanted to kind of personalize them (08:23:48 PM) ke4qqq: is it something you can offload to mo? (08:23:51 PM) QuickStart: It would be good (08:23:54 PM) ke4qqq: and reduce travel weight? (08:23:54 PM) herlo: it's not hard (08:24:00 PM) herlo: it's only paper (08:24:04 PM) QuickStart: just get the list of those heading to FUDCon (08:24:08 PM) herlo: but personalization woudl be nice (08:24:14 PM) herlo: QuickStart: good idea (08:24:22 PM) herlo: I can create some for those who are on the roster (08:24:28 PM) QuickStart: I"m just saying you can save money that way (08:24:44 PM) inode0: speaking of money I have one more thing too (08:24:47 PM) ke4qqq: make ianweller do his bizcard magic to the form (08:24:53 PM) herlo: eh, I don't mind printing it, as I have a color laserjet (08:25:09 PM) QuickStart: sweet (08:25:25 PM) herlo: who here wants a personalized media box? (08:25:44 PM) ***jds2001 (08:25:45 PM) inode0: who doesn't? (08:25:48 PM) QuickStart: true (08:25:56 PM) ianweller: i also want some nice media to hand out too ;) (08:25:57 PM) herlo: I need names (08:26:08 PM) ***lcafiero thanks herlo for his gracious offer, but I'll make one of my own. (08:26:12 PM) dowdle: herlo: It isn't too hard to tape on a card or piece of paper with Ambassador contact info after the fact so I don't think it is that important to have personalized boxes. (08:26:13 PM) herlo: ianweller: hehe, that's coming, I have 500 pieces I'm bringing (08:26:24 PM) ianweller: herlo: you deserve a high five. (08:26:32 PM) inode0: maybe ping the list ... if you will be at FUDcon and want one ...? (08:26:34 PM) herlo: ianweller: hehe (08:26:36 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: I am bringing media if it's too much to carry (08:26:40 PM) jsmidt: I'll have to make my own too, I won't be at fudcon (08:26:42 PM) ***jds2001 points herlo to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:FUDCon_Boston_2009_preregistrantshttp… (08:26:51 PM) jds2001: er https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:FUDCon_Boston_2009_preregistrants (08:26:54 PM) jds2001: just one :) (08:26:57 PM) ianweller: inode0: i think he should get a potato gun, but fitted for CDs. (08:27:02 PM) ianweller: just shoot 'em into the crowd (08:27:04 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: ooh, okay, I was hoping to bring DVDs (08:27:10 PM) QuickStart: sweet I would hed there just to see that in action (08:27:21 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh cool, I'll bring livecds if you bring dvds (08:27:22 PM) herlo: I'll bring them if I can (08:27:23 PM) jds2001: QuickStart: just in boston, not far (08:27:27 PM) dowdle: herlo: Are they updated respins that are current? Or the original media? (08:27:33 PM) herlo: original (08:27:38 PM) herlo: anyway, I have one other thing (08:27:40 PM) jds2001: no respins have yet been produced. (08:27:41 PM) ***ke4qqq hears echos from last week (08:27:42 PM) dowdle: herlo: Blech. Make new ones. (08:27:44 PM) inode0: not like they are ancient yet :) (08:27:47 PM) herlo: dowdle: no (08:27:56 PM) ke4qqq: dowdle: 12000 respins aren't cool (08:27:57 PM) dowdle: herlo: Making a new one takes like an hour. (08:27:59 PM) herlo: respins aren't official (08:28:01 PM) ke4qqq: they are ancient in a month (08:28:08 PM) ke4qqq: gold is good for 6 months (08:28:08 PM) herlo: and we've already ordered them (08:28:08 PM) QuickStart: true but no money (08:28:15 PM) QuickStart: guess field trip is in order (08:28:16 PM) herlo: anyway (08:28:28 PM) herlo: I was talking with ke4qqq earlier tonight (08:28:29 PM) dowdle: herlo: Having install media where 25 - 75% of the packages get updated after install is very crappy. (08:28:29 PM) inode0: let's move on, we have the media (08:28:38 PM) QuickStart: true to respin now would be a set back since 11 is out soon (08:28:41 PM) ***dowdle shuts up. (08:28:45 PM) inode0: then don't take one dowdle (08:29:02 PM) herlo: and we decided it would be cool to put large posters of the Fedora logo in our Hotel windows at the Marriott (08:29:11 PM) ke4qqq: dowdle: it costs us a fortune and 3 weeks to get media - we are doing good to get gold produced timely - we are happy for others to bring solutions to the problem (08:29:42 PM) dowdle: ke4qqq: Well I'm not going to the event in question so my opinion doesn't matter. I'm so used to just burning media myself. (08:29:50 PM) QuickStart: how bout making a big logo out of the windows (08:29:57 PM) QuickStart: ?? (08:29:59 PM) inode0: dowdle: these media are used at all events (08:30:16 PM) ke4qqq: dowdle: when you hand a 1000 pieces out at a single event that's not practical (08:30:22 PM) inode0: when people bring respins to distribute they are there as a choice too (08:30:45 PM) herlo: k, I want to bring up my other topic, can we discuss that after? (08:30:58 PM) inode0: are you ready to leave this one? (08:31:10 PM) ke4qqq: we are leaving signs? (08:31:17 PM) ke4qqq: or moving into signs? (08:31:18 PM) herlo: no (08:31:20 PM) herlo: moving (08:31:21 PM) herlo: to (08:31:25 PM) ke4qqq: signs? (08:31:28 PM) herlo: nobody commented (08:31:32 PM) herlo: it was all about media (08:31:42 PM) ke4qqq: ok - so several things (08:31:46 PM) lcafiero: signs in the window at hotel = +1 (08:31:46 PM) inode0: yeah, sounds cool, what is the question? (08:31:47 PM) herlo: I wanted to know if anyone else was interested in doing signs in their windows too (08:31:49 PM) ke4qqq: one - we need to have someone handing out said signs (08:31:56 PM) dowdle: ke4qqq: Smaller batches more often... but I'll be happy to discuss this another time... as I'm beeing obnoixous otherwise. (08:31:57 PM) ke4qqq: with tape (08:32:11 PM) herlo: yeah, I'll bring tape for the first day of the hackfest (08:32:25 PM) herlo: I only wonder if we should od it at Kinkos on Thursday (08:32:29 PM) herlo: wouldn't take long (08:32:29 PM) QuickStart: got an Idea (08:32:43 PM) QuickStart: make a huge blow up of Fedora logo and cut it window size (08:32:54 PM) ***lcafiero will be back shortly. (08:32:57 PM) QuickStart: and get rooms nearby (08:33:05 PM) herlo: QuickStart: lol, if only we had time (08:33:08 PM) QuickStart: put the pieces in the windows in order and people will get the idea (08:33:10 PM) herlo: printing paper is easier (08:33:20 PM) QuickStart: I have the sissors if you have the paper (08:33:22 PM) QuickStart: lol (08:33:35 PM) herlo: but I like the idea (08:33:43 PM) QuickStart: true (08:33:52 PM) QuickStart: that would be good for the memory album (08:33:52 PM) herlo: anyway, that's all I had. Whos interested? and should I do it at Kinkos in Boston? (08:34:04 PM) jds2001: when do you get to Boston? (08:34:28 PM) inode0: absolutely, I imagine a lot of people would join in after seeing them or hearing about them (08:34:41 PM) ke4qqq: YES!! and being offered them. (08:34:42 PM) herlo: I arrive at 11am on Thurs (08:34:50 PM) ***ke4qqq should be there around 10 or 11am (08:34:55 PM) QuickStart: sweets (08:35:07 PM) herlo: I'll do a bunch of prints then on Thursday there. I can create it tomorrow then... (08:35:08 PM) jds2001: herlo: cool, I arrive about 5PM (08:35:16 PM) inode0: perfect (08:35:29 PM) ***inode0 raises his hand (08:35:48 PM) ***inode0 and hasn't forgotten ianweller, saving the best for last (08:36:00 PM) ianweller: i forgot what i was going to ask (08:36:39 PM) inode0: there is great interest in spending more Q4 funds on permanent items, please if you have such items in mind let's move forward with those (08:36:56 PM) inode0: so banners and such for the event boxes would be one good thing (08:37:01 PM) herlo: inode0: I'm done (08:37:12 PM) jds2001: done with? (08:37:14 PM) inode0: herlo: sorry, I thought you were already done :) (08:37:14 PM) ke4qqq: where is said interest coming from? (08:37:24 PM) herlo: :) (08:37:25 PM) herlo: nw stickster StillBob (08:37:31 PM) inode0: spevack and stickster (08:37:33 PM) jds2001: ke4qqq: spevack seemed interesting in teh public meeting today (08:37:41 PM) jds2001: s/interesting/interested (08:37:46 PM) inode0: not talking about our current Q4 budget, other funds (08:37:54 PM) ke4qqq: right, but does that mean we get more funds - seems we are pretty tight as it is (08:37:59 PM) ***ke4qqq will have to read the minutes (08:38:22 PM) inode0: it means if we ask max to buy permanent stuff he may find other funds to do that with (08:38:41 PM) herlo: nice (08:39:15 PM) inode0: but it needs to be in Q4, so there isn't that much time (08:39:28 PM) ***herlo orders the world (08:39:58 PM) inode0: I'm done with that, just wanted everyone to know about it and give it some thought (08:40:09 PM) inode0: ianweller has the floor (08:41:36 PM) ***inode0 whistles and does some dishes waiting (08:42:22 PM) inode0: guess he really did forget (08:42:39 PM) jds2001: ianweller: (08:42:39 PM) jds2001: ianweller: (08:42:40 PM) jds2001: ianweller: (08:42:41 PM) jds2001: ianweller: (08:42:45 PM) ianweller: hi (08:42:46 PM) ianweller: i forgot. (08:42:48 PM) ianweller: seriously. (08:42:53 PM) ianweller: nothing to see here (08:43:03 PM) inode0: remember then and that problem is solved (08:43:04 PM) ***ianweller should've put it on the wiki. lol (08:43:08 PM) inode0: be a problem solver ianweller (08:43:11 PM) ianweller: lol (08:43:35 PM) inode0: ok, there is next week and we are always you know where (08:43:48 PM) inode0: was it about the book by any chance? (08:44:11 PM) ke4qqq: or fudcon related (08:44:23 PM) ***QuickStart forgot to get a copy of Spider (08:44:34 PM) ke4qqq: QuickStart: amazon.com (08:44:40 PM) QuickStart: true (08:44:41 PM) inode0: starfish, the spider is bad (08:44:58 PM) ke4qqq: the spider is cutoff in the end (oops spoiler) (08:45:12 PM) QuickStart: man well don't have to read it now (08:45:14 PM) QuickStart: lol (08:45:32 PM) inode0: ok, are there any other fudcon items from anyone since that is soonish (08:45:47 PM) ianweller: inode0: oh yeah, book! (08:45:51 PM) ***ke4qqq will bring media (08:45:56 PM) ianweller: yeah uh my announcement was bring your cameras to fudcon. (08:45:58 PM) ianweller: that is all. (08:46:00 PM) ***ke4qqq notes ianweller is too late (08:46:14 PM) ***ianweller sulks appropriately (08:46:32 PM) inode0: oh, that should be in the annoucement segment of the program ianweller, this is for discussion :) (08:46:51 PM) ianweller: inode0: what are you doing, trying to be organized? that's mad! (08:46:53 PM) ianweller: :P (08:47:00 PM) inode0: you write the summaries :) (08:47:02 PM) QuickStart: oh and on additional info for all (08:47:20 PM) QuickStart: more megapixels doesn't mean that you have better quality (08:47:26 PM) QuickStart: thats it for (08:47:27 PM) QuickStart: me (08:47:30 PM) inode0: ok (08:47:44 PM) inode0: last call before we move on to the countdown (08:48:12 PM) inode0: thank you all for coming as always, your participation is, uh, important (08:49:15 PM) inode0: remember first meeting next month we will have an infrastructure guest to help us understand that aspect of fedora better (08:49:25 PM) inode0: 5 (08:49:28 PM) inode0: 4 (08:49:31 PM) inode0: 3 (08:49:34 PM) inode0: 2 (08:49:38 PM) inode0: 1 (08:49:50 PM) inode0: thanks again everyone, see some of you this weekend (08:49:53 PM) inode0: EOF

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[Fwd: [Lf_desktop] LWE -> OpenSource World]
by Gianluca Varisco 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

- FYI - Anyone near the SF area interested to submit a paper? The OpenSource World Call for Papers is open from December 17, 2008 — February 20, 2009. http://www.opensourceworld.com/ Cheers, Gianluca

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[Reminder] FAMNA Meeting @ 2009-01-06 9pm ET
by Clint Savage 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

This is a reminder for FAMNA Meeting 2009-01-06 9pm ET (6pm PT) Just a quick reminder that we'll be holding our weekly meeting in #fedora-meeting (irc.freenode.net) tonight at 9pm ET (6pm PT) If you are interested in participating, or have something to contribute, feel free to add it to our agenda:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-06 See you all there. Clint

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bokal from Bremen, Germany https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dowdle from Montana, USA Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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FAmSCo Vice-Chair Appointment
by Francesco Ugolini 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

It a honor to appoint Joerg Simon [1] as FAmSCo Vice-Chair. Joerg is the most active (if not the only) Ambassadors Membership Administrator and, of course, a fellow FAmSCo member. He served since the early beginning as one of the most active, wise Fedora Ambassador, he helped past FAmSCo taking care of all the membership aspects and giving his precious point of view. He is a really important brick in the Fedora community and it's a really pleasure for me to share with him the lead of the FAmSCo. Thank you Joerg to have accepted this. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Best regards on behalf of FAmSCo Francesco Ugolini

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FAmSCo Chair Appointment
by Francesco Ugolini 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

During new FAmSCo's first IRC meeting [1], I [2] was confirmed as FAmSCo Chair. According to the FAmSCo Election Rules [3], it's necessary that Fedora Board confirms the new FAmSCo Chair to officialize the result: Paul Frields made it during the same meeting. I accepted this role with the acknoledgement that FAmSCo is going to have a really busy year, with big challanges, great goals but sure that the whole community will be the center of all its work. This FAmSCo, with its great elected members inside, is going to represent, for the first time, all the 4 main areas (NA, LATAM, APAC and EMEA): this is a great beginning and I'm sure you should expect more during this year. All my wishes go to all the FAmSCo members and all Ambassadors: with team work we will be able to score another point for Fedora and its wonderfull community! [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-January/msg000… [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/Rules Best regards on behalf of FAmSCo Francesco Ugolini

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FAmSCo Meeting - IRC Log 2009-01-05
by Francesco Ugolini 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

This is the log of the FAmSCo IRC Meeting hold Monday 5th Jannuary at 20.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting. Raw log: (09:04:09 PM) spevack: let's start (09:04:18 PM) fugolini: ah, ok (09:04:24 PM) spevack: is everyone else here? (09:04:31 PM) fugolini: so, roll call (09:04:40 PM) fugolini: Francesco Ugolini (09:04:41 PM) spevack: Max Spevack (09:04:58 PM) MrTom: Thomas Canniot (09:05:00 PM) ke4qqq: David Nalley (09:05:01 PM) susmit: SusmitShannigrahi (09:05:16 PM) ***fugolini is getting a terrible cold (09:05:30 PM) kital: JoergSimon (09:05:55 PM) fugolini: Meeting agenda: 1) FAmSCo Chair Election (09:06:01 PM) onekopaka [n=onekopak(a)c-76-121-249-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] entered the room. (09:06:07 PM) fugolini: 2) Meeting schedule (09:06:08 PM) onekopaka: okay (09:06:30 PM) onekopaka: sorry (09:06:39 PM) ***spevack was lagging, but is back now (09:07:01 PM) spevack: hello? (09:07:03 PM) fugolini: I collected Max suggestion in one topic (09:07:12 PM) fugolini: so, 1) FAmSCo Chair Election (09:07:33 PM) spevack: ! Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:07:40 PM) fugolini: spevack: (09:07:48 PM) ***fugolini is searching for the right wiki link to give (09:08:23 PM) spevack: before we jump right into this, i think we should say welcome to our new famsco members, and talk about some of the things that Famsco is currently responsible for, that need to be continued, and then some of the things that Ambassadors have told us they would like Famsco to be more active on (09:08:45 PM) fugolini: Yes, I was going to do this :) (09:09:01 PM) spevack: fugolini: ok, go ahead :) (09:09:23 PM) fugolini: have you finished? (09:10:07 PM) spevack: if you are going to talk about it, then I have finished, yes. EOF (09:10:20 PM) fugolini: feel free to finish (09:10:31 PM) spevack: ok (09:11:09 PM) fugolini: sorry but I've a terrible cold ... forgive me if I'm interrupting you (09:11:17 PM) spevack: well, the two big things that Famsco has been doing are the membership verificatio -- which I prefer to call Mentoring and Training of new Ambassadors -- and I think that we need to focus on that process -- not only the technical work that kital has started, but the softer side of training people on how to be goo Fedora Ambassadors (09:11:42 PM) spevack: I did a Fedora Classroom session on that a while back, and I will do more. (09:11:42 PM) spevack: the technical work that kital has done is fantastic (09:11:43 PM) spevack: and i thank him for it. (09:11:43 PM) onekopaka: isn't this websites? (09:11:56 PM) spevack: no, this is the fedora ambassadors meeting onekopaka :) (09:12:00 PM) onekopaka: no wonder. (09:12:06 PM) spevack: onekopaka: :) (09:12:16 PM) kital: thanks spevack ;) (09:12:24 PM) ***onekopaka sighs (09:12:28 PM) onekopaka left the room. (09:12:35 PM) spevack: i think we need to make sure that we also provide proper resources that teach people how to organize events, how to do public speaking, how to speak about a specific message, etc. (09:12:35 PM) Zool^ [n=kaland(a)19.81-166-29.customer.lyse.net] entered the room. (09:12:49 PM) spevack: also the other big thing we do in famsco is manage the budget for ambassadors and global events (09:13:04 PM) spevack: which has a lot of sharing with Red Hat's Community Architecture budget, and therefore the overall budget for Fedora. (09:13:13 PM) spevack: the place where i think there is room to continue to grow (09:13:21 PM) spevack: is in solidifying the processes across different parts of the world (09:13:27 PM) spevack: and making sure that things don't diverge too wildly (09:13:32 PM) spevack: what one region figures out and optimizesa (09:13:36 PM) spevack: neeeds to be shared (09:13:42 PM) spevack: we want local leadership and authority (09:13:45 PM) spevack: but we don't want silos (09:13:55 PM) spevack: famsco also must be the clearing-house for worldwide activity (09:14:15 PM) spevack: I am personally very keen on the expanded "Fedora Activity Day" idea for this coming year, and I think FAMSCO can be very active in helping to make that successful worldwide. (09:14:20 PM) spevack: EOF (09:14:21 PM) spevack: EOF (09:14:24 PM) spevack: any thoughts or comments? (09:14:33 PM) spevack: oh, and happy new year :) (09:14:42 PM) kital: ! yes (09:14:43 PM) fugolini: I agree completely with your toughts (09:14:54 PM) fugolini: and happy new year to you too :) Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:15:50 PM) kital: today i have updated the join page as herlo requested it https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join (09:16:03 PM) spevack: kital: fantastic! (09:16:10 PM) fugolini: spevack: in that way the fedorahosted group (FAmSCo) was build? (09:16:23 PM) fugolini: kital: wonderful (09:16:37 PM) kital: i have clarified the steps and have added the regional mentors (09:16:55 PM) fugolini: I mean, all those BIG goals and the way to achieve them (09:17:03 PM) spevack: fugolini: i don't know about how the fedorahosted group was built. i think someone made it, and it's up to us to figure out how we want to use it (09:17:11 PM) kital: every new sponsored Ambassador gets a welcome message with a (09:17:15 PM) kital: I would like to introduce you to our Community Mentors from your region, where (09:17:15 PM) kital: you can ask for help or point your ideas: (09:17:15 PM) kital: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Robert (09:17:19 PM) kital: ... (09:17:20 PM) kital: eof (09:17:31 PM) spevack: kital: you should write in your blog about the new Join page, if you want to. if not, I will write about it. (09:17:36 PM) fugolini: kital: I like the idea, great job (09:17:49 PM) susmit: ! (09:17:51 PM) spevack: kital: i really like the page (09:18:04 PM) spevack: it's starting to be more organized (09:18:06 PM) kital: spevack - please blog about (09:18:08 PM) fugolini: Anyone want to say something about the FAmSCo perspective and so on? (09:18:12 PM) spevack: kital: ok, i will (09:18:46 PM) onekopaka [n=onekopak(a)c-76-121-249-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] entered the room. (09:18:50 PM) susmit: I can take care of the fedorahosted... (09:19:14 PM) susmit: for other thing, I am more interested to have an outline of how to follow up the FADs.. (09:19:14 PM) ***herlo is looking at the changes kital made right now (09:19:17 PM) petreu| [n=peter(a)p3EE3F14D.dip.t-dialin.net] entered the room. (09:19:25 PM) fugolini: I think we need to divided all the task and create some groups (09:19:33 PM) fugolini: *tasks (09:19:47 PM) fugolini: like it was in the first/second FAmSCos (09:19:56 PM) spevack: susmit: let's give you the fedorahosted action item, and i'll take the FAD action item, since it's up to me to explain further that vision. (09:20:13 PM) susmit: thanks (09:20:19 PM) spevack: fugolini: yeah, we need to break down the main goals and tasks, and ensure that they each have an owner (09:20:27 PM) spevack: and the famsco chair needs to be responsible for making sure things happen (09:20:31 PM) spevack: and that new tasks are added as needed (09:20:36 PM) fugolini: spevack: +1 (09:20:46 PM) susmit: +1 (09:20:50 PM) kital: +1 (09:21:45 PM) fugolini: So, FAmSCo Chair election? (09:22:01 PM) spevack: sure. (09:22:09 PM) spevack: how does it work? (09:22:49 PM) fugolini: spevack: we could used self-nomination, nomination system (09:22:54 PM) spevack: if he wants to do it again, I nominate francesco. if he wants to not be the chair this year, i understand that also. but i think he did a great job and deserves a nomination. (09:23:05 PM) MrTom: +1 (09:23:08 PM) kital: +1 <- he did a great job (09:23:08 PM) susmit: +1 (09:24:36 PM) fugolini: there are a lot experienced ambassadors/contibutors in this FAmSCo (and in the past FAmSCos too), (09:25:03 PM) fugolini: if you thing you could do this task better than me, I'm asking you to tell me (09:25:12 PM) spevack: it's not even about that. (09:25:28 PM) kital: i think we should proceed with the good direction we have with your leadership (09:25:29 PM) spevack: if there is someone else who would like to nominate themselves or nominate someone else for the leadership role, then speak up pleaes Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:25:44 PM) ***MrTom won't tell anything then (09:25:45 PM) spevack: there are plenty of leadership opportunities in famsco for everyone (09:25:54 PM) spevack: it doesn't matter what we call ourselves. (09:26:20 PM) spevack: . (09:26:21 PM) spevack: . (09:26:22 PM) spevack: . (09:26:24 PM) fugolini: spevack, kital both of you demonstrates great leadership in Ambassadors, so (09:26:41 PM) spevack: fugolini, do you accept what seems to be a unanimous nomination for another year as famsco chair? (09:26:41 PM) ***kital thinks fugolini is simple the best choice (09:26:54 PM) ***MrTom agrees Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:27:05 PM) ***susmit nods (09:27:11 PM) fugolini: spevack: yes, I'm really delighted (09:27:32 PM) spevack: ke4qqq: +1 from you also? (09:27:34 PM) MrTom: the king is dead, long live the kink :D (09:27:39 PM) kital: ;) (09:27:43 PM) MrTom: s/kink king (09:27:43 PM) ke4qqq: sorry yes (09:27:48 PM) fugolini: lol (09:27:52 PM) ***ke4qqq votes for fugolini (09:27:59 PM) spevack: alright francesco, you're still the boss. :) now give us some orders! (09:28:06 PM) susmit: :) (09:28:16 PM) fugolini: I prefer to call them inputs ghghghgh :D (09:28:17 PM) MrTom: what a landslide for fugolini :) stickster StillBob (09:29:04 PM) fugolini: so, now Fedora Board has to approve this nomination, like the past year I'll send an email to stickster (09:29:11 PM) balor [n=balor(a)gimili.plus.com] entered the room. (09:29:18 PM) spevack: ok, what else must we discuss today? i think this meeting is used to sort out the logistics of the new famsco. (09:29:26 PM) spevack: and then we get to work on the mailing list and in future meetings (09:29:27 PM) fugolini: spevack: Meeting schedule (09:29:31 PM) spevack: is everyone in famsco on the mailing list? Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:29:39 PM) spevack: has the mailing list been updated with the current membership? (09:29:42 PM) fugolini: spevack: I added all the people (09:29:47 PM) spevack: great (09:29:52 PM) spevack: ok, meeting schedule then. (09:29:52 PM) fugolini: both in M-l and in FAS (09:30:02 PM) stickster: fugolini just answered stickster's question :_) stickster StillBob (09:30:16 PM) fugolini: stickster: ok (09:30:19 PM) fugolini: :) (09:30:33 PM) fugolini: I think we have to figure out a possible meeting time that could work for everyone (09:31:18 PM) ***stickster happy to see fugolini continuing as the FAMSCo chair. (09:31:22 PM) fugolini: expecially because this time FAmSCo members are living in the most different time zones stickster StillBob (09:31:36 PM) spevack: what is the furthest west and furthest east time zone we deal with? (09:31:44 PM) fugolini: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/Calend… (09:31:45 PM) spevack: susmit is furthest east... (09:31:48 PM) stickster: fugolini: I'm pretty sure the Board will be unanimous in its support too :-) (09:31:53 PM) spevack: is brazil or US east coast further west? (09:31:58 PM) ke4qqq: I think I am the first west (09:31:58 PM) ajax: dang, seems you can't go straight from f7+ to f11 (09:32:01 PM) ke4qqq: furthest stickster StillBob (09:32:12 PM) spevack: ajax: it's worth a try though :) (09:32:14 PM) fugolini: stickster: thank you, so (09:32:15 PM) dgilmore: spevack: brasil is further east (09:32:16 PM) spevack: ajax: blame seth (09:32:39 PM) stickster: fugolini: It's nice to see the new FAMSCo sees all the hard work you helped lead previously (09:32:54 PM) spevack: ok, so the spread is 9 hours (09:33:11 PM) fugolini: a big leap (09:33:22 PM) spevack: well, i guess fugolini wants to use the little table matrix to try to sort this out? (09:33:39 PM) fugolini: yep (09:34:07 PM) fugolini: if everyone agree (09:34:37 PM) spevack: sure, people just need to fill it in by wednesday so we can figure out a meeting time to start next week. (09:34:41 PM) fugolini: I think it's important to have all of you, not because there are hard discussion, but it's the only place to share simoulaniously (09:34:49 PM) fugolini: *simultaniously (09:35:07 PM) spevack: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/Calen… Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:35:14 PM) spevack: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ use this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (09:35:25 PM) fugolini: spevack: absolutely ! Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:36:50 PM) fugolini: so another important point spevack pointed was how many times we will meet: weekly, monthly .... (09:36:53 PM) fugolini: ? (09:37:10 PM) fugolini: I think it will help to have a better idea on the calendar too. (09:37:11 PM) MrTom: ! (09:37:13 PM) fugolini: MrTom: (09:37:39 PM) spevack: fugolini: may i share my thoughts? (09:37:41 PM) MrTom: well as lots of meeting were canceled last year (one out of two approximately) (09:37:56 PM) MrTom: I thinkg we should continue to have a weekly pace meeting (09:37:58 PM) fugolini: spevack: yes, it's a pleasure to hear you (09:38:00 PM) MrTom: eof (09:38:16 PM) fugolini: MrTom: thanks (09:38:33 PM) spevack: I think we should have weekly meetings for the time being, and try to focus each week on one of the specific tasks that we are working on -- one or two -- instead of all of them. depending on what is most important. (09:39:01 PM) spevack: but with new energy (09:39:04 PM) spevack: and some new people (09:39:06 PM) spevack: and new priorities (09:39:12 PM) fugolini: good point, it's an interesting perspective (09:39:18 PM) spevack: i think we will have enough to fill the time. (09:39:20 PM) spevack: it was embarassing to me that famsco meetings were cancelled last year (09:39:24 PM) spevack: i want us to do better this year (09:39:36 PM) fugolini: sure (09:39:41 PM) spevack: EOF (09:40:14 PM) fugolini: Any other proposal? (09:40:21 PM) fugolini: if not we move to vote: mbonnet mbonnet_ McGiwer mdomsch mizmo mmcgrath MrTom m_stone mxcarron (09:40:54 PM) fugolini: 1) MrTom proposal: weekly meeting Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:41:16 PM) kital: +1 (09:41:23 PM) spevack: i think it is another landslide :) (09:41:24 PM) fugolini: +1 (09:41:26 PM) spevack: +1 obv (09:41:30 PM) ke4qqq: +1 Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:41:34 PM) susmit: +1 Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:41:40 PM) fugolini: MrTom/spevack proposal (09:41:53 PM) spevack: so eveyrone will update the meeting matrix by wednesday, and then we'll get to work Kick_ killefiz kital (09:43:11 PM) spevack: anything else for tonight, fugolini? (09:43:23 PM) fugolini: just a last thing, FAmSCo Chair has to nominate a vice-chair, I'm opening to suggestion, BTW, I think kital has done a great job and it could be a really helpful hand (09:43:43 PM) cferthorney [n=dthorne(a)87-194-209-26.bethere.co.uk] entered the room. (09:44:40 PM) fugolini: suggestions? (09:45:12 PM) ***ke4qqq thinks kital is a great choice (09:45:12 PM) spevack: +1 (09:45:13 PM) rdieter is now known as rdieter_away (09:45:16 PM) rdieter [n=rdieter(a)pcp088903pcs.unl.edu] entered the room. (09:45:55 PM) spevack: fugolini: kital is just the guy to take over if some angry ubuntu ambassadors attacks you. :) (09:46:00 PM) kital: ;) (09:46:02 PM) fugolini: ehehehe (09:46:05 PM) ***susmit thinks too (09:46:10 PM) spevack: actually, kital is the guy i'd want next to me in a fight. no one would ever mess with joerg (09:46:19 PM) MrTom: lol (09:46:23 PM) spevack: whereas someone could snap me like a twig (09:46:32 PM) kital: hihi (09:46:37 PM) fugolini: ehehe (09:47:04 PM) fugolini: so, kital, i assume you have accepted the nomination (09:47:13 PM) ***kital is honoured (09:47:22 PM) kital: yes i will work hard (09:47:30 PM) spevack: you always do :) (09:47:35 PM) fugolini: so, I'll do all the announcement before tomorrow (09:47:39 PM) fugolini: *s (09:48:00 PM) cferthorney left the room. (09:48:03 PM) fugolini: nothing new from my side, from your one? (09:48:24 PM) fugolini: 3 (09:48:25 PM) kital: just a side note (09:48:29 PM) fugolini: tell us (09:49:00 PM) kital: today i chatted with nman64 and i joined him as a Administrator of Ambassador Group (09:49:10 PM) fugolini: great (09:49:15 PM) kital: i will automate some FAS Tasks and i hope this will help (09:49:16 PM) kital: me (09:49:20 PM) kital: eof (09:49:46 PM) fugolini: it's a great news. (09:50:09 PM) spevack: good (09:50:15 PM) susmit: kital, I shall be happy to help (09:50:16 PM) spevack: what's up with nman64? (09:50:19 PM) fugolini: thank you for your job (09:50:21 PM) spevack: haven't heard from him in a very long time (09:50:38 PM) CheekyBoinc left the room (quit: "Use Fedora Linux -> fedoraproject.org ++ www.cheekyboinc.de ++"). (09:50:47 PM) kital: ;) he is always around and listen (09:51:05 PM) nman64: spevack: Not active with Fedora, but ever present and watchful. ;-) (09:51:18 PM) spevack: hey man! happy new year! (09:51:32 PM) nman64: spevack: Happy New Year! (09:51:37 PM) spevack: it's just good to see you around patrick (09:51:43 PM) spevack: so, are we done with our meeting? (09:51:58 PM) fugolini: == Meeting adjourned == Best regards Francesco Ugolini

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Elquintu from Cuenca, Ecuador https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rtnpro from Durgapur, India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jsmidt from Irvine, USA Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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SCaLE 7x Booth Preparations
by Clint Savage 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

Marketers and Ambassadors, I've taken on the responsibility (along with Larry Cafiero) of manning and supporting the fedora booth at SCALE7x this year. For those of you who have not been or heard of SCaLE, it's the Southern California Linux Exposition and it's held at the Westin near the LAX airport every year. Last year's booth[1] was awesome. It was my first real induction helping at events sponsored by Fedora. SCaLE is Friday, Saturday and Sunday, February 20-22, 2009, and while that seems a long while off, two months go by quickly. If you can commit to taking the time, we'd love to have you help out at the booth. I believe the admission price is 50% off (normal price is $60) for those who help at the booth, and possibly for every Fedora contributor (more info to come on this later). This year looks to be an even greater year for Fedora, with a big movement of Ambassadors in North America, SCaLE promises to be a big success for us again. The booth this year is again looking for volunteers and we need to fill the three days from 9am to 5pm, so if you are interested in helping, let us know by signing up at the SCALE7x wiki page[2]. In addition, I'd like to see some new banners to put into the Fedora EventBox[3] and some posters for the four f's (this is indeed our new mantra) as well. I know this art is already created, we just need to get it in place. Thus, I suggest we update the EventBox(en) out there with these materials ASAP. I've seen discussion of this in IRC and mailing lists. If you know anything about this, please respond here with that information as well. I look forward to a very successful year of Fedora Events, starting with SCaLE 7x. Cheers, Clint 1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SCALE/SCALE6X 2 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE7X_Event 3 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox/NA/West

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Gong from XiaMen, FuJian, China https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jyulliano from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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EMEA Ambassadors January Meeting
by Max Spevack 05 Jan '09

05 Jan '09

Hi all, I completely forgot about the December EMEA Ambassadors meeting, my apologies. It was right before the holidays started and I was busy with a bunch of other stuff. But, I've put together the initial agenda page for the January meeting, which will be on the 14th of the month. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-14 Thanks, Max

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FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-12-31
by inode0 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

* AmbassadorKits - herlo got an early start on FUDcon and created a Media Box layout for the AmbassadorKits. http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/media_box/ - herlo plans to modify ianweller's fedora-business-cards package to customize the Media Boxes for each ambassador. - Need to think about the outer box used to house the AmbassadorKits. * Media Discussion - herlo reports F10 live CDs arrived, installation media ordered and may arrive by FUDcon. * FAmNA Resource Requests - herlo reports a new trac instance to help handle media/swag requests. https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests - This should help ambassadors make requests and should immensely help us process and track requests to minimize effort and expense. * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] * Open Floor - Update on the status of the t-shirt order. - Brief discussion about changing the frequency/times of FAmNA meetings, will be conducted on the f-a-l mailing list. - The Starfish and the Spider was highly recommended by all who had read it. All ambassadors should read this book. We may have a roundtable discussion of how this book's ideas relate to our work after others have a chance to read it. I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight.

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FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-12-31
by inode0 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

(08:00:01 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting - Roll Call (08:00:15 PM) ***DemonJester here (08:00:18 PM) ***lcafiero plays the role of Larry Cafiero (08:00:23 PM) herlo: .fas herlo (08:00:24 PM) zodbot: herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1(a)gmail.com> (08:00:27 PM) ***QUICKSTART here you know what I was going to say (08:00:33 PM) ***ke4qqq is here (08:01:07 PM) inode0: Are there any announcements? (08:01:24 PM) ***herlo resists announcing anything (08:01:35 PM) ***lcafiero can't think of anything (08:01:40 PM) ianweller: oh hi! (08:01:43 PM) QUICKSTART: Happy New Years to all (08:02:03 PM) inode0: ok, let's try to stay on topic tonight as much as possible (08:02:19 PM) inode0: herlo has the floor for the first item, ambassador kits (08:02:56 PM) herlo has changed the topic to: FAmNA Meeting - Agenda here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-12-30#Agenda (08:03:22 PM) herlo: inode0: I snuck in another topic too (08:03:28 PM) herlo: AmbassadorKits. (08:03:40 PM) herlo: yes, those are the darned things we've been trying to get going for some time (08:03:50 PM) herlo: well FUDCon is only a week and a half away now (08:04:01 PM) herlo: so I decided it would be a good time to get some of the pieces in the works (08:04:10 PM) herlo: so I created the new Fedora Media Box (08:04:20 PM) herlo: it's been in the Artwork Design Request queue for some time (08:05:28 PM) herlo: I'd like to preview the new Media Box here: 13:15 -!- Topic for #fedora-meeting: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings ajax often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See bpepple http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule (08:05:34 PM) herlo: ugh (08:05:37 PM) herlo: let me try that again (08:05:45 PM) herlo: http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/media_box/ (08:05:56 PM) herlo: there are several images along with three svg files (08:06:03 PM) herlo: the images are examples of what I built (08:06:29 PM) herlo: thoughts? (08:06:34 PM) ***inode0 makes a mental note to highlight that in the summary (08:07:04 PM) inode0: I think it looks great (08:07:08 PM) herlo: the svg files do the front and back. You can print them on one 8-1/2x11 sheet of paper (08:07:29 PM) herlo: and cut and fold, add some tape and voila, you have a media box, holding ~10 bits of Media (08:07:43 PM) crossbytes: I think they look great... (08:07:44 PM) herlo: the instructions.svg explains where to cut, how to cut and fold. (08:08:04 PM) ***herlo should point out that this project was taken from the Ubuntu-Utah Loco as it was public domain (08:08:09 PM) herlo: and credit is due there (08:08:36 PM) lcafiero: Look great, herlo (08:08:47 PM) ***DemonJester agrees ^^^^ (08:09:13 PM) QUICKSTART: +1 (08:09:18 PM) herlo: thanks all for the vote of confidence. I plan to create a bit of software based upon ianweller's fedora_business_cards and automate it when a request is made for AmbassadorKits (08:09:30 PM) ianweller: that's fedora-business-cards to *you* (08:09:32 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:09:36 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh +1 (08:09:50 PM) herlo: because that is the purpose of these boxes, to be *part* of the AmbassadorKit (08:09:57 PM) herlo: ianweller: depending on where you look :) (08:10:45 PM) herlo: In other words, at the Hackfest on Friday, January 9, I plan to put together at least 10 of these boxes as well as construct as many AmbassadorKits too (08:10:46 PM) ***QUICKSTART starts standing ovation for herlo (08:10:55 PM) herlo: which brings me to my next point regarding this project (08:11:28 PM) herlo: We need a *sexy* looking box to send out to ambassadors for a good cost (08:11:38 PM) herlo: it'll need to hold everything we want in an ambassadorkit (08:11:47 PM) herlo: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AmbassadorKit (08:11:57 PM) ***ke4qqq suggests a standard UPS shipping box (08:12:37 PM) ***herlo thinks that's not gonna do it (08:13:01 PM) ke4qqq: why?? what do we care what the carrier looks like? and even more importantly - how would we afford to get it mass produced? (08:13:03 PM) herlo: I mean those are nice and all, but wouldn't it be good if we could have a presentable plastic-ish box that we could open up? (08:13:07 PM) inode0: I think it might work for starting out - long term active ambassadors might want something more permanent (08:13:19 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh pelican! (08:13:25 PM) herlo: yeah, I've been envisioning a more sturdy permanent solution (08:13:40 PM) herlo: ooh, that might work, but they'd have to be much smaller than the EventBox (08:13:46 PM) ***herlo will look into that this week (08:13:53 PM) ***inode0 thinks that only makes sense for active ambassadors (08:13:53 PM) herlo: inode0: ^^ task me up plz (08:14:11 PM) herlo: inode0: yes, that's who AmbassasadorKits are targeted (08:14:15 PM) QUICKSTART: +1 (08:14:21 PM) ***lcafiero has an ambassador box that's actually a backpack (08:14:28 PM) herlo: +1 on ke4qqq's suggestion of pelican (08:14:30 PM) inode0: well, any ambassador who has a local event will want an ambassador kit (08:14:41 PM) herlo: right, and they can have one (08:14:44 PM) ke4qqq: I currently carry all of my supplies in a backpack (08:14:48 PM) herlo: as long as they are ambassadors (08:14:53 PM) herlo: they should be easy to refill (08:15:01 PM) ke4qqq: but do I really want 5-6? (08:15:06 PM) ke4qqq: seems wasteful (08:15:07 PM) herlo: t-shirts, stickers, etc... (08:15:07 PM) QUICKSTART: couldn't we get a paper box resembling a briefcase (08:15:16 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: 5-6 what? (08:15:23 PM) ke4qqq: the idea was to have this as a no thought item we could drop off and get shipped (08:15:26 PM) ke4qqq: wasn't it? (08:15:30 PM) ke4qqq: 5-6 of these boxes (08:15:31 PM) herlo: it's one box, you refill it... (08:15:39 PM) inode0: I just think a UPS box would be quite adequate unless you are doing *many* events with it (08:15:44 PM) herlo: more like 20-40 of these boxes (08:15:50 PM) QUICKSTART: true (08:15:51 PM) herlo: one for every ambassador (08:15:55 PM) ke4qqq: hmmmm that seems counter to the thought of one stop shopping (08:16:10 PM) herlo: I missed that meeting I guess (08:16:11 PM) ke4qqq: refilling it means I can't just grab a box on the way out the door (08:16:21 PM) herlo: my mind had it that we'd ship out one box, then refill it as needed (08:16:28 PM) ke4qqq: I thought that was your original thought (08:16:36 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: refills are done piecemeal (08:16:44 PM) QUICKSTART: sounds expensive (08:16:46 PM) ke4qqq: why? (08:17:01 PM) herlo: you get one box, and you use it at an event, restock what's depleted (08:17:09 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: I guess I can see your point (08:17:22 PM) herlo: but I think we're digging into minutiae now, we should save some of this for FUDCon (08:17:27 PM) QUICKSTART: sorry thought out loud (08:17:27 PM) ke4qqq: that's just as expensive to ship 100 CDs as 100CDs and a tshirt (08:17:33 PM) ke4qqq: you are right (08:17:35 PM) QUICKSTART: rather typed out loud (08:17:47 PM) ke4qqq: and inode0 a pox on you for saying the word that must not be mentioned :) (08:17:47 PM) inode0: agreed, we should settle on whether this is going to be disposable or permanent soon though (08:18:13 PM) herlo: inode0: we can decide that this week (08:18:30 PM) ***herlo votes to move forward... (08:18:36 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: context - if the ambassador does one or two events I don't think the project needs to fund a fancy box (08:18:38 PM) ***ke4qqq +1's (08:18:46 PM) ke4qqq: I know, but still the word....lol (08:19:25 PM) inode0: Media Discussion - last minute addition to the agenda by herlo (08:19:43 PM) herlo: quickly, I just wanted to let everyone know that the LiveCDs have shipped (08:19:49 PM) herlo: arriving before FUDCon for everone (08:19:50 PM) herlo: everyone (08:20:07 PM) herlo: and, we ordered 2300 each of x86 and x86_64 DVDs (08:20:26 PM) herlo: we're hoping for it to be done by Jan 7 so I can bring some to FUDCon. But we'll see (08:20:30 PM) herlo: it's gonna be close (08:20:35 PM) inode0: which reminds me ... (08:20:55 PM) inode0: everyone who is incurring actual expenses please remember to update our budget (08:21:05 PM) inode0: with hard numbers as they materialize (08:21:19 PM) ke4qqq: +10 (08:21:42 PM) QUICKSTART: would that include travel expenses? (08:21:44 PM) herlo: inode0: we'll get those from the ups weekly pdf too (08:21:53 PM) herlo: QUICKSTART: only if you have been approved for that (08:22:08 PM) QUICKSTART: k got it (08:22:09 PM) inode0: I wasn't speaking directly about your costs herlo, you just reminded me :) (08:22:35 PM) herlo: inode0: I know, just wanted to point that out (08:22:54 PM) herlo: k, that topic is done for me (08:23:03 PM) inode0: FAmNA Resource Requests (08:23:49 PM) herlo: okay, so along with all this media, we now have a new trac instance that cna be used by any NA Fedora Contributor (read Ambassador) to request resources from us (08:23:51 PM) inode0: agenda hat trick for herlo (08:24:00 PM) herlo: https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests (08:24:26 PM) herlo: for those of you who are Regional Ambassadors, ke4qqq, DemonJester, inode0, lcafiero and myself, you'll be able to login and handle requests (08:24:44 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:24:58 PM) herlo: we need to spread the word about this requesting system. It can handle media right now, but when DemonJester gets his t-shirts that can be added, stickers is another thing, etc... (08:25:11 PM) herlo: we can customize this instance to accommodate these requests (08:25:17 PM) herlo: we can track them and improve our processes (08:25:19 PM) herlo: plus (08:25:30 PM) herlo: * Allowing the NA Regional Ambassadors the ability to view and process requests without duplication. (08:25:33 PM) herlo: * Avoid duplicate requests for resources. (08:25:36 PM) herlo: right from the front page (08:25:38 PM) herlo: * Better planning purchases for future resources. (08:26:17 PM) herlo: I got an email reply from spevack that he's going to be implementing this sort of system across much of the fedora infrastructure for requests... (08:26:23 PM) QUICKSTART: +2 (08:26:54 PM) herlo: so I'd like to get you all to login and make sure you can see tickets (08:27:08 PM) herlo: DemonJester: you should have received an email from jds2001 already. Did you get that? (08:27:11 PM) inode0: ok, tasks for everyone (08:27:16 PM) herlo: do it now! (08:27:18 PM) herlo: :) (08:27:25 PM) ***DemonJester shakes head yes already logged in as well (08:27:26 PM) herlo: it won't take but a minute (08:27:35 PM) ***jds2001 here (08:28:06 PM) herlo: inode0: ke4qqq lcafiero all logged in as well? (08:28:25 PM) inode0: let's say yes (08:28:26 PM) ke4qqq: should I be able to see ticket #1? (08:28:28 PM) lcafiero: I get this when clicking on the login link: https://fedorahosted/famnarequests/login (08:28:32 PM) ke4qqq: even tho it's not mine? (08:28:36 PM) herlo: yes (08:28:46 PM) ***ke4qqq thought you worked to eliminate that (08:28:57 PM) herlo: no, only for people who make requests (08:29:01 PM) ***inode0 doesn't think we need a classroom session during the meeting (08:29:02 PM) herlo: the regionals can see these tickets (08:29:06 PM) ke4qqq: ahhhh ok (08:29:14 PM) herlo: inode0: it was only to get ppl to login, sorry (08:29:29 PM) lcafiero: logged in. (08:29:29 PM) herlo: lcafiero: I'll work with you offline then (08:29:34 PM) herlo: ooh, cool, nm (08:29:42 PM) lcafiero: There's something wrong with the link in the body of the site about midway down. (08:29:51 PM) lcafiero: The one that says "log in" (08:29:53 PM) herlo: anyway, spread the word to your regions that this is the way to get media if you get email requests (08:29:56 PM) lcafiero: But the one on top works. (08:30:05 PM) herlo: :) (08:30:06 PM) inode0: let's just do this right after the meeting in fedora-ambassadors? (08:30:11 PM) herlo: yep (08:30:13 PM) herlo: sounds good (08:30:20 PM) herlo: 3 items down, 10 minutes each (08:30:41 PM) lcafiero: Awww. (08:30:43 PM) lcafiero: Okay. (08:30:59 PM) inode0: before we leave this I think the idea and arrangements look about as perfect as we could get for now (08:31:14 PM) inode0: should be very helpful (08:31:29 PM) ***DemonJester notes he really like the idea! (08:31:43 PM) ***lcafiero does a few laps around the site and likes it. (08:31:50 PM) inode0: task list is next (08:32:06 PM) ke4qqq: can we close the ups task?? everyone successfully used it? (08:32:18 PM) ***inode0 has been a slacker and must finish his clean up task tomorrow (08:32:18 PM) herlo: already moved (08:32:27 PM) herlo: reload that page (08:32:31 PM) DemonJester: I am in but havent used it yet (08:32:48 PM) jds2001: I suppose that if we want regionals not to be able to see other regions I could take TRAC_ADMIN away from em. (08:32:56 PM) jds2001: but I don't think that's valuable. (08:33:09 PM) inode0: I don't care who sees what (08:33:11 PM) herlo: no, I think it's fine (08:33:18 PM) inode0: no secrets necessary (08:33:19 PM) ke4qqq: no it's not valuable - but I wanted to make sure that was expected behavior (08:33:29 PM) ke4qqq: after all of the silo talking (08:33:42 PM) jds2001: hehe :) (08:33:43 PM) ***ke4qqq wasn't aware he was a trac_admin (08:33:53 PM) jds2001: we don't build silos here, we build community :) (08:33:58 PM) inode0: ready to move on? (08:34:01 PM) herlo: yep (08:34:03 PM) jds2001: ke4qqq: you should see an admin tab in the right corner (08:34:03 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:34:05 PM) jds2001: yes :) (08:34:07 PM) inode0: Open Floor (08:34:08 PM) ke4qqq: ohh wait (08:34:13 PM) ke4qqq: what's status on tshirts? (08:34:14 PM) ***inode0 waits (08:34:28 PM) inode0: good question (08:34:34 PM) herlo: task is done (08:34:37 PM) herlo: I asked DemonJester (08:34:43 PM) inode0: they are ordered? (08:34:47 PM) herlo: yes (08:34:48 PM) ke4qqq: ahhh I see the ordered note (08:34:53 PM) inode0: to be paid later? (08:34:59 PM) ke4qqq: arrival date?? where/how are they shipping? (08:35:02 PM) DemonJester: they were ordered last week.. I called about shipping to different locations instead of RH boston but cost is alot more for shipping (08:35:15 PM) ke4qqq: how much more than shipping to all of us from boston? (08:35:23 PM) ke4qqq: assuming that the majority of us can't carry them back (08:35:33 PM) inode0: will end up a lot more I expect anyway (08:36:03 PM) DemonJester: we can either have them all shipped to RH Boston of we can ship them to me and I send them out. Roughly about $100 more (08:36:07 PM) herlo: we'll need some for AmbKits, but only like 20-30 probably (08:36:11 PM) inode0: but if they don't mix them up in each box then we need to do that anyway (08:36:33 PM) ke4qqq: what size boxes? (08:36:54 PM) DemonJester: didnt ask but there will be 9 of them. (08:36:59 PM) ***ke4qqq is willing to part with 100 to have them shipped direct I think. (08:37:13 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: you know about shirts - what kind of volume are we talking? (08:37:20 PM) ***inode0 is only worried about getting all XXL (08:37:29 PM) ke4qqq: lol (08:37:42 PM) ***lcafiero needs XXL too (08:37:43 PM) DemonJester: could happen as I doubt they will sort them before shipping (08:38:01 PM) inode0: no, I mean I don't want a box of 50 Small and Medium only shirts (08:38:06 PM) ke4qqq: what happens if they (or $carrier) misses the date? (08:38:29 PM) ***inode0 doesn't need XXL :) (08:38:42 PM) DemonJester: They said we would have them for Fudcon. Didnt get any money back shipping promise (08:38:44 PM) ***jds2001 doesn't need XXL, just XL :) (08:38:51 PM) ***QUICKSTART what no large???? lol (08:39:02 PM) ***ke4qqq started out thinking that BOS was a great destination - now I am worried (08:39:14 PM) inode0: let's just deal with it at FUDcon, we can repack and reship from there, right? (08:39:27 PM) ke4qqq: inode0: again - what if they don't arrive (08:39:33 PM) ke4qqq: in time (08:39:35 PM) ke4qqq: on schedule (08:39:38 PM) inode0: then mo will help us out (08:39:54 PM) ke4qqq: k - just wanted someone other than me to volunteer her :) (08:40:11 PM) inode0: I'll give her a pony and it will be ok (08:40:53 PM) inode0: or DemonJester can reroute them to him if they are going to really miss (08:41:14 PM) ke4qqq: k (08:41:26 PM) ***DemonJester thinks that might be best so we dont have to reship 5 times only 4 if they come direct to me (08:41:33 PM) jds2001: a hello kitty pony mind you.. (08:41:40 PM) QUICKSTART: make sure that someone is there to pick up the boxes though (08:41:48 PM) jds2001: at red hat? (08:41:51 PM) jds2001: I (08:41:53 PM) ke4qqq: I won't have to ship mine either - /me isn't flying (08:41:59 PM) jds2001: am sure there's someone there :) (08:42:06 PM) inode0: don't worry about that (08:42:14 PM) jds2001: right you have the bus :) (08:42:16 PM) DemonJester: ke4qqq: didnt know that so either way it would be the same (08:42:20 PM) jds2001: you driving the bus? :) (08:42:26 PM) ke4qqq: indeed! (08:42:49 PM) DemonJester: I will just keep it going to RH then (08:42:57 PM) DemonJester: if everyone is ok with that (08:43:07 PM) herlo: yep (08:43:07 PM) jds2001: if i would have known about it before i might have joined you :) (08:43:16 PM) jds2001: but I already have train tickets :) (08:43:19 PM) inode0: I'm ok with anything that ends up with them being shipped to me not in Boston :) (08:43:46 PM) herlo: inode0: yer coming to fudcon right? (08:44:06 PM) inode0: yes, but I'm not carrying 2 boxes of shirts back with me if I can help it (08:44:20 PM) DemonJester: wear them then :) (08:44:35 PM) ianweller: < TSA> sir ummmm why do you have four dozen shirts on? (08:44:35 PM) ke4qqq: lol (08:44:39 PM) ***DemonJester pictures inode0 with 150 shirts on ;) (08:45:02 PM) lcafiero: heh (08:45:03 PM) ***herlo was going for the youtube video (08:45:07 PM) ke4qqq: better question - whats the reaction of central US ambassadors to receiving a shirt pre-worn by inode0 ? (08:45:08 PM) ***QUICKSTART winter coat (08:45:10 PM) ke4qqq: on a plane (08:45:13 PM) ***inode0 is starting to get sweaty (08:45:15 PM) ke4qqq: for 5 hours (08:45:30 PM) herlo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muP9eH2p2PI (08:45:38 PM) inode0: ok Open Floor (08:45:49 PM) inode0: I have one small topic (08:46:16 PM) herlo: :51 in (08:46:32 PM) inode0: We talked a while back when there was a request to change the meeting time about revisiting that at some point (08:46:41 PM) inode0: I think now is a good point in time to do that (08:46:43 PM) DemonJester: herlo: lol (08:47:11 PM) QUICKSTART: Would it be possible to make it based on Eastern Time or any other us time zone (08:47:18 PM) inode0: no (08:47:27 PM) jds2001: it is at 9PM eastern. (08:47:34 PM) jds2001: but all meetings are based on UTC (08:47:44 PM) ***herlo can't do much earlier (08:47:51 PM) DemonJester: nor can I (08:47:56 PM) herlo: and to be honest, I was the one who pushed it this late (08:47:58 PM) herlo: but (08:48:06 PM) herlo: I'm up for biweekly meetings though (08:48:07 PM) QUICKSTART: Saturdays?? (08:48:11 PM) herlo: I think that's something we can do (08:48:16 PM) jds2001: why is that a concern? (08:48:17 PM) herlo: QUICKSTART: saturdays are hard (08:48:18 PM) inode0: I'm going to send something to f-a-l soonish about this since others who can't come at this time can't give us input here (08:48:23 PM) jds2001: 9PM is a reasonable time for me. (08:48:33 PM) ***DemonJester notes QUICKSTART must not be married for suggesting Sat.. ;) (08:48:37 PM) QUICKSTART: just offering an idea (08:48:43 PM) QUICKSTART: +1 (08:48:53 PM) ***jds2001 could do Sat too :) (08:49:00 PM) ***herlo could not (08:49:01 PM) jds2001: but I'm also not married :) (08:49:01 PM) ***ke4qqq doewsn't want to do Sat (08:49:07 PM) ***herlo isn't marred (08:49:07 PM) ke4qqq: would cosnider sunday though (08:49:09 PM) lcafiero: Tuesdays are better than Saturdays for me. (08:49:12 PM) ***DemonJester cant do Sat. (08:49:12 PM) ***jds2001 either really (08:49:16 PM) ke4qqq: and tuesdays are far better (08:49:18 PM) herlo: sundays would work now adays (08:49:25 PM) herlo: but I like tuesdays (08:49:30 PM) inode0: I am going to suggest trying to move to twice a month, once at the current time, and possibly once more convenient for others and a weekend might be worth considering (08:49:32 PM) QUICKSTART: Sunday is ok I guess my schedule is flexible since I'm not married yet (08:49:35 PM) lcafiero: me is married, but that's not why Saturdays don't work. (08:49:38 PM) herlo: and I've gotten all my other meetings rearranged too (08:50:13 PM) ***jds2001 still not sure what time FESCo is gonna end up at. (08:50:21 PM) QUICKSTART: well anything thats convenient for you guys as long as its not 10 or later (08:50:32 PM) ke4qqq: in what timezone? (08:50:39 PM) DemonJester: EST (08:50:39 PM) inode0: I'd like to see one of the meetings be earlier in the day so others can come who sleep at this time (08:50:59 PM) ke4qqq: like who? (08:51:01 PM) ***DemonJester notes sleep is overrated! (08:51:02 PM) jds2001: but who in NA sleeps at this hour? (08:51:08 PM) inode0: max for one (08:51:13 PM) ke4qqq: he isn't in NA (08:51:14 PM) herlo: inode0: maybe the biweekly schedule can be early one week and late for another (08:51:18 PM) jds2001: he's not in NA :) (08:51:30 PM) inode0: he would make valuable contributions (08:51:34 PM) herlo: ke4qqq is our NA FAMSCO rep now, we'll make him do all the work :) (08:51:47 PM) jds2001: sounds good! (08:51:49 PM) ***DemonJester suggests we hold special sessions for max then (08:51:55 PM) ***lcafiero thinks losing the election wasn't so bad after all (08:52:15 PM) ke4qqq: why?? (08:52:15 PM) inode0: it isn't just max, people in NA prefer earlier in the day too (08:52:19 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh one other thing (08:52:23 PM) crossbytes: I think weekends and earlier for the east coast Ambassadors (08:52:27 PM) inode0: let's bounce it around on f-a-l (08:52:32 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:52:32 PM) ke4qqq: +1 (08:52:32 PM) herlo: lcafiero: you and your election losses (08:52:38 PM) herlo: +1 (08:52:42 PM) ***ke4qqq has a topic when you are finished (08:52:45 PM) lcafiero: herlo: I'm scarred for life (08:52:56 PM) inode0: I'll start it up (08:52:57 PM) herlo: meh (08:53:04 PM) inode0: ke4qqq has the floor (08:53:19 PM) ke4qqq: ok - so the idea of special meetings for max brought this to mind (08:53:40 PM) ke4qqq: I'd suggest that everyone who can get a copy of the Starfish and the Spider (08:53:44 PM) ke4qqq: and read it. (08:53:46 PM) ke4qqq: only 200 pages (08:53:50 PM) ke4qqq: and it's great (08:53:56 PM) ***herlo is reading it (08:53:56 PM) QUICKSTART: what is that? (08:54:02 PM) herlo: 2 chapters in (08:54:05 PM) inode0: read f-a-l too QUICKSTART (08:54:15 PM) ***DemonJester has it ordered after seeing it on f-a-l (08:54:15 PM) ke4qqq: and short of Homesteading the Noosphere it's the best book to describe F/LOSS orgs that I have read (08:54:19 PM) ke4qqq: in a long time (08:54:26 PM) QUICKSTART: I would enjoy reading it but where can I get a copy and what are those texts (08:54:43 PM) ke4qqq: QUICKSTART: BN, Amazon.com, Borders, etc. (08:54:46 PM) inode0: after you guys read it perhaps we can have a roundtable discussion about it (08:54:52 PM) ke4qqq: yes!! (08:54:55 PM) inode0: I'd like that (08:54:57 PM) herlo: +1 (08:55:00 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:55:05 PM) ***ke4qqq thinks we need to make it part of required NA mentoring (08:55:06 PM) DemonJester: Fedora book club :) (08:55:09 PM) QUICKSTART: I'll take a look into it (08:55:25 PM) crossbytes: +1 DemonJester (08:55:27 PM) ke4qqq: and that each Ambassador should be considered a catalyst or champion (08:55:43 PM) DemonJester: herlo: why not add that in the AMBKit? (08:56:01 PM) ke4qqq: if we had any spare money I'd say it was a great idea (08:56:11 PM) QUICKSTART: http://www.starfishandspider.com/ (08:56:16 PM) DemonJester: future thought perhaps then.. (08:56:19 PM) QUICKSTART: thats the starfish and spider? (08:56:22 PM) ke4qqq: perhaps (08:56:30 PM) herlo: could do, but the cost keeps rising (08:56:30 PM) herlo: ing (08:56:39 PM) ke4qqq: QUICKSTART: yep (08:56:40 PM) herlo: sorry, got disconnected (08:56:51 PM) inode0: let's stop adding stuff to the kit for tonight (08:56:52 PM) QUICKSTART: apparently they have a wiki for it (08:57:14 PM) herlo: we do (08:57:22 PM) inode0: and everyone go read the book, it is great (08:57:40 PM) ***herlo moves over to #fedora-ambassadors (08:57:41 PM) ***ke4qqq is done (08:57:55 PM) QUICKSTART: well I'm done one question what does f-a-l stand for (08:57:59 PM) inode0: any other business tonight - last chance this year (08:58:06 PM) lcafiero: Quick comment? (08:58:25 PM) DemonJester: QUICKSTART: Fedora Ambassadors List (08:58:30 PM) inode0: QUICKSTART: the mailing list where this book has been discussed (08:58:30 PM) QUICKSTART: ahhhh ok (08:58:37 PM) QUICKSTART: k (08:58:42 PM) inode0: lcafiero go (08:59:06 PM) lcafiero: Still talking to SCaLE about FADNA, but would like to ping everyone even on list about their feelings about whether to have it at SCaLE or LFNW (08:59:15 PM) herlo: LFNW (08:59:20 PM) inode0: neither (08:59:25 PM) lcafiero: SCaLE is interested in having us, LFNW is probably more practical. (08:59:31 PM) lcafiero: or inode0's house (08:59:33 PM) ***ke4qqq votes against SCALE (08:59:35 PM) lcafiero: I forgot that option. (08:59:49 PM) ke4qqq: simply for $$$ reasons (08:59:50 PM) ***inode0 votes for being champions of the new model (08:59:57 PM) QUICKSTART: well I must leave goodnight and good luck for the next year Happy New Year all (09:00:04 PM) herlo: gnight (09:00:08 PM) lcafiero: Again we can hash this out on list (09:00:19 PM) inode0: getting a fedora activity day arranged with infrastructure or another group within fedora (09:00:20 PM) lcafiero: done here. (09:00:41 PM) inode0: spending a weekend just doing FAD (09:00:49 PM) DemonJester: inode0: that more than likely means East Coast then since most are located there. (09:01:14 PM) inode0: I don't think so (09:02:00 PM) inode0: Max is going to announce this more widely in the coming days, I would really like to see if any other groups come forward wanting to join us. (09:02:43 PM) inode0: It is very likely it can be funded with travel for critical people. (09:02:52 PM) ke4qqq: inode0: I thought it was announced already (09:02:54 PM) ke4qqq: on FAB (09:03:09 PM) inode0: not beyond the board and marketing (09:03:11 PM) herlo: it needs to be blogged and emailed on other lists imo (09:03:46 PM) ***herlo thinks we're done?? (09:03:51 PM) lcafiero: +1 (09:03:53 PM) inode0: not yet though, board feedback is needed (09:04:09 PM) inode0: then more announcements will happen (09:04:35 PM) inode0: but I think it is going to happen and we should try to make it work (09:04:53 PM) herlo: famnarequests discussion in #fedora-ambassadors in 42 seconds... (09:05:18 PM) inode0: ok, any other business for this year? (09:05:32 PM) inode0: 5 (09:05:35 PM) inode0: 4 (09:05:37 PM) inode0: 3 (09:05:39 PM) inode0: 2 (09:05:43 PM) inode0: 1 (09:06:07 PM) ***DemonJester heads to store for food. (09:06:09 PM) inode0: thank you everyone, tonight and for about the past 6 months - we're learning and I hope getting better (09:06:12 PM) inode0: EOF

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FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-12-24
by inode0 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

(08:00:00 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-12-23#Agenda (08:00:05 PM) inode0: Roll Call please (08:00:16 PM) ***ianweller lurks (08:00:32 PM) herlo has changed the topic to: FAmNA meeting, agenda available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-12-23#Agenda (08:00:45 PM) herlo: .fas herlo (08:00:46 PM) zodbot: herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1(a)gmail.com> (08:01:06 PM) QUICKSTART: hello all (08:01:12 PM) QUICKSTART: ready to start (08:01:16 PM) ***lcafiero is present, using his inferior xchat (08:01:23 PM) herlo: lol (08:01:33 PM) inode0: Announcements (08:01:46 PM) ***jds2001 here (08:01:48 PM) ***DemonJester present (08:02:06 PM) inode0: I'd like to congratulate everyone involved in the FAmSCo elections - especially Larry and David (08:02:35 PM) lcafiero: Especially David -- congratulations ke4qqq (08:02:53 PM) jds2001: thank you for running both of you :) (08:02:57 PM) herlo: w00t! (08:03:12 PM) ***herlo will run next election and win! :) (08:03:30 PM) ianweller: well if that isn't a campaign promise i dunno what is (08:03:40 PM) herlo: :-D (08:03:50 PM) herlo: speaking of the almight ke4qqq, where is he? (08:03:57 PM) herlo: s/ght/ghty/ (08:03:59 PM) ***jds2001 promised a $700 billion bailout in the board election and didn't win! (08:04:01 PM) ***inode0 is lost (08:04:02 PM) jds2001: :) (08:04:09 PM) ianweller: jds2001: hmm wonder why :) (08:04:11 PM) inode0: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-December/msg00… (08:04:12 PM) ianweller: jds2001: ;) (08:04:15 PM) jds2001: :) (08:04:22 PM) lcafiero: heh (08:04:25 PM) inode0: Be sure to read fugolini's report if you haven't (08:04:27 PM) herlo: jds2001: I saw that (08:04:39 PM) ***lcafiero slaps forehead and mutters "that's where I went wrong" (08:05:00 PM) inode0: And other announcements? (08:05:03 PM) inode0: Any (08:05:04 PM) herlo: lcafiero had the best concession speech, however (08:05:11 PM) herlo: WE HAVE LIVE CDs (08:05:18 PM) herlo: http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/f10media/ (08:05:18 PM) lcafiero: Woo hoo! (08:05:29 PM) inode0: lcafiero's concession speech proved he should have been elected, which some of us knew all along :) (08:05:33 PM) herlo: best pic: http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/f10media/100_1360.jpg (08:05:35 PM) jds2001: w00t! (08:05:46 PM) inode0: that is a topic herlo, not an announcement! (08:05:58 PM) herlo: inode0: oh, sorry (08:06:04 PM) ***herlo slaps his own hand (08:06:20 PM) herlo: and cries -_^ (08:06:20 PM) DemonJester: herlo: inode0 already beat you to that :) (08:06:35 PM) herlo: lol, it's kind of a funny night tonight, now isn't it? (08:06:59 PM) inode0: Ok, let's get to any topics herlo doesn't spoil in the announcements section now (08:07:09 PM) DemonJester: lol (08:07:10 PM) ***herlo rescinds his announcement, dons a dunce cap and sits facing the corner of the room (08:07:19 PM) ianweller: it's like opening christmas presents early. bad! (08:07:25 PM) inode0: Scheduling guest speakers ... (08:07:30 PM) herlo: roflmao (08:07:32 PM) ***DemonJester points out the room is round and watches herlo look for the corner (08:07:42 PM) herlo: roflmao again! (08:07:46 PM) inode0: I contacted mmcgrath and he will speak to us about infra in January sometime (08:07:59 PM) herlo: very nice (08:08:18 PM) lcafiero: heh (08:08:33 PM) herlo: I need to talk with rdieter this coming week about having packagemaintainers come and talk with us too (08:08:36 PM) inode0: I'd like to encourage the rest of you if you haven't to try to line someone up (08:08:53 PM) ***herlo wants a task (08:09:07 PM) inode0: tasks come later herlo (08:09:08 PM) ***jds2001 can speak for fesco sometime if that's desired. (08:09:23 PM) inode0: :) (08:09:27 PM) herlo: inode0: no, I want to be assigned to remmeber (08:09:31 PM) ***jds2001 kicks herlo (08:09:40 PM) inode0: assign yourself a task then (08:09:50 PM) DemonJester: lol (08:09:51 PM) herlo: oh :( (08:09:57 PM) herlo: fine! (08:10:03 PM) DemonJester: roflmao... (08:10:08 PM) inode0: would anyone be interested in trying to get an overview of legal issues from spot? (08:10:12 PM) jds2001: oh, if a trac instance might be useful to you guys, that can be easily arranged. (08:10:26 PM) herlo: inode0: ianweller was doing that for some other stuff, we should get him to do it (08:10:33 PM) ianweller: do what (08:10:43 PM) herlo: what inode0 said (08:10:52 PM) inode0: assign yourself a task ianweller (08:10:54 PM) jds2001: getting spot to talk about legal things? (08:10:55 PM) herlo: jds2001: I'd be interested in that, but the wiki seems okay (08:11:16 PM) jds2001: whatever you'd like :) (08:11:17 PM) ***inode0 thinks this meeting spun out of control early (08:11:28 PM) ianweller: "talk with us" you mean like in this meeting? (08:11:31 PM) ianweller: or.... what (08:11:40 PM) herlo: yes, but not tonight (08:11:40 PM) inode0: yes (08:11:46 PM) herlo: at another meeting (08:11:48 PM) inode0: here is what I'm thinking (08:11:52 PM) inode0: more precisely (08:12:17 PM) inode0: a lot of new ambassadors and some old too may benefit from a good overview of legal issues that touch on Fedora (08:12:33 PM) inode0: whether that happens in this meeting or elsewhere I don't care (08:12:38 PM) ianweller: like [[ForbiddenItems]] ? (08:12:55 PM) jds2001: that and other things. (08:13:33 PM) inode0: I'm in the channel now but still lost ... what is ianweller being asked to do? (08:13:42 PM) ianweller: yeah. seriously. (08:13:50 PM) ***ianweller scratches head (08:13:52 PM) herlo: inode0: talk with wpot (08:13:53 PM) herlo: spot (08:13:55 PM) jds2001: ianweller: get spot to talk about legal items. (08:14:02 PM) inode0: oh, ok (08:14:02 PM) herlo: about coming to talk with us about legal (08:14:04 PM) ***ianweller writes that down (08:14:12 PM) ianweller: are meetings every tuesday, right? (08:14:17 PM) herlo: since he has to have him come and talk about his picture book anyway (08:14:21 PM) herlo: ianweller: yep (08:14:26 PM) jds2001: yes, every tuesday at 9PM (08:14:36 PM) ianweller: mokayu (08:14:37 PM) inode0: ianweller: yes, and it doesn't have to be real soon, a month after FUDcon so we could promote it is fine (08:14:40 PM) ianweller: mokay* (08:14:46 PM) inode0: or later at spot's convenience (08:15:13 PM) ianweller: ok! (08:15:17 PM) herlo: 9pm EST (08:15:33 PM) jds2001: the only timezone that matters for anything :) (08:15:35 PM) inode0: ok, next agenda item (non announcement variety) is media update (08:15:46 PM) herlo: yay! (08:15:53 PM) herlo: we have LiveCDs! (08:15:56 PM) inode0: show us the pictures! (08:16:03 PM) herlo: mkay (08:16:05 PM) inode0: also fill us in on UPS (08:16:15 PM) herlo: http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/f10media (08:16:17 PM) ianweller: pix or it didn't happen >.> ;) (08:16:22 PM) herlo: inode0: I have more about media (08:16:24 PM) lcafiero: lol (08:16:25 PM) inode0: and while you are giving yourself a task that one can be closed :) (08:16:53 PM) inode0: floor is yours herlo, go (08:16:57 PM) herlo: I know (08:17:02 PM) herlo: :-D (08:17:04 PM) ***herlo dances (08:17:16 PM) DemonJester: keep your shirt on! (08:17:24 PM) inode0: shirts are next! stop it! (08:17:32 PM) DemonJester: lol (08:17:42 PM) herlo: okay, so I talked with the media company today and we're placing another order tomorrow for ~2300 DVDs (08:18:06 PM) herlo: both x86 and x86_64 (08:18:49 PM) DemonJester: cool! (08:18:53 PM) herlo: that will be approximately $1800 with tax and all (08:19:05 PM) inode0: oh, so 1150 each (08:19:10 PM) herlo: What I need to do next is divvy up the media and get it distributed (08:19:20 PM) herlo: inode0: no, ~2300 each (08:19:32 PM) herlo: or we can get 3000 CDs (08:19:36 PM) inode0: 4600 for 1800, that doesn't add up (08:19:36 PM) QUICKSTART: nice (08:19:57 PM) herlo: no (08:20:09 PM) herlo: $2300 each totalling 4600 for $3600 (08:20:15 PM) herlo: s/$// (08:20:19 PM) herlo: scratch that first $ (08:20:22 PM) inode0: we get the idea now (08:20:30 PM) herlo: goodness! (08:20:57 PM) herlo: I've take the time to update the art online so they will have 64-bit sleeves and disc labels (08:21:08 PM) herlo: I'll have it all up there by tomorrow morning (08:21:10 PM) inode0: or we can get 3000 CDs + what? (08:21:22 PM) herlo: inode0: okay, let me recap (08:21:33 PM) herlo: about 3 days ago, I sent an email with three options (08:21:59 PM) herlo: one was to get LiveCDs x86_64 and Install DVDs (of one type or the other) for the full $3600 (08:22:11 PM) herlo: another was to get Install DVDs of x86 and x86_64 (08:22:24 PM) herlo: this was the one we went with per the responses (08:22:49 PM) QUICKSTART: but doesn't the dvd install take to long? (08:22:52 PM) herlo: inode0: make sense? (08:23:00 PM) herlo: QUICKSTART: we already have x86 LiveCDs (08:23:09 PM) inode0: yes, I agree with getting as many DVDs as we can for the $3600 (08:23:11 PM) QUICKSTART: ahhh ic carrry on (08:23:14 PM) herlo: and it only taks ~20mins... (08:23:20 PM) ***ke4qqq thanks herlo for using the cluebat (08:23:43 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: np (08:23:48 PM) ***QUICKSTART rubs the nobs on his head do to the cluebat (08:24:00 PM) ke4qqq: ohhhhh we have media!!! (08:24:03 PM) herlo: okay, so that order will be in (08:24:11 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: yes!! thanks for joining us :) (08:24:27 PM) ***herlo moves to UPS (08:24:29 PM) ke4qqq: so will they have it before you leave for BOS? (08:24:32 PM) herlo: inode0: that okay? (08:24:38 PM) inode0: yes (08:24:45 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: yes, I believe so (08:24:49 PM) herlo: that's my next topic (08:24:52 PM) ke4qqq: outstanding (08:25:10 PM) ***QUICKSTART jumps for joy but falls out of his computer chair (08:25:18 PM) herlo: so it appears that the issue was with the sleeve printing and the art delay. I'm going to have the art tomorrow so it should only take 10-15 days at most (08:25:22 PM) herlo: that should be enough time (08:25:36 PM) herlo: I've told him we need them by Jan 7, that's the night I leave for FUDCon (08:25:50 PM) ke4qqq: really...... that's interesting feedback - we should document that on the wiki. (08:25:53 PM) herlo: so we *should* have it (08:26:17 PM) ke4qqq: any chance we can include a failure to perform penalty? (08:26:23 PM) herlo: no (08:26:26 PM) herlo: price is too good (08:26:26 PM) QUICKSTART: question where is the cds being shipped from (08:26:32 PM) herlo: QUICKSTART: my house (08:26:33 PM) inode0: let's not negotiate contracts until spot gets here (08:26:38 PM) herlo: hehe (08:26:48 PM) herlo: here's the deal with shipping (08:27:07 PM) ***loupgaroublond lurks and trolls in the background, hi folks (08:27:07 PM) ***QUICKSTART slams his hand to his forehead and shouts 'Of course why couldn't I have thought of that' (08:27:12 PM) herlo: I have a request from stickster for 100+ LiveCDs which I'll be sending out tomorrow (08:27:35 PM) inode0: for FUDcon I presume (08:27:36 PM) herlo: in addition, the boxes hold 310 each and there are 9 of those boxes (08:27:46 PM) ***ke4qqq notes that we still have several package reviews outstanding so no sponsor should get any til those are cleared :) (08:27:49 PM) herlo: one box has 260, and I'm keeping that one (08:27:57 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: lol (08:28:20 PM) herlo: anyway, I figure I'll bring 620 CDs plus all the Install DVDs to FUDCon to give away to contributors there (08:28:31 PM) ke4qqq: f13 also requested some - wonder if he can wait til fudcon? (08:28:33 PM) herlo: so that means we have about 2200 CDs to distribute (08:28:38 PM) stickster: herlo: If you want to bring them to FUDCon, that would be fine (08:28:39 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: true (08:28:43 PM) loupgaroublond: herlo, are you taking orders for who will pick them up at fudcon? (08:28:45 PM) herlo: stickster: okay (08:28:45 PM) stickster: I don't want to bog you down (08:28:50 PM) herlo: just wait (08:28:56 PM) herlo: here's the plan I was thinking :) (08:29:04 PM) herlo: I'll get them shipped to the Regional Ambassadors (08:29:06 PM) herlo: tomorrow (08:29:17 PM) ke4qqq: what's shipping cost? (08:29:22 PM) herlo: they should arrive before FUDCon as I'll use 3 day (08:29:27 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: at this point, don't know (08:29:29 PM) ***ke4qqq cringes (08:29:41 PM) herlo: probably not more than $20 each (08:29:49 PM) jds2001: why use 3 day? (08:29:51 PM) QUICKSTART: dude sweet deal (08:29:53 PM) herlo: but I think it's important to get them out (08:29:58 PM) ke4qqq: when I shipped the laptop to inode0 it was 17 bucks (08:30:02 PM) jds2001: ground will work to get it there by fudcon (08:30:02 PM) herlo: jds2001: just getting them in the hands of contributors (08:30:04 PM) inode0: I don't need them before FUDcon (08:30:14 PM) herlo: jds2001: before (08:30:20 PM) inode0: either way (08:30:24 PM) herlo: but here's why (08:30:43 PM) herlo: the Regional Ambassadors for NA will be the point persons for delivering media to folks in their region (08:31:02 PM) herlo: I will have a hard time getting too many extra things on the plane without having to pay extra for them (08:31:09 PM) ke4qqq: true (08:31:12 PM) herlo: Delta now charges $25/bag (08:31:18 PM) ***herlo will be able to get one bag (08:31:27 PM) herlo: for free, but after that it's still $25/bag (08:31:34 PM) herlo: so the cost is actually better (08:31:35 PM) inode0: shipping them is definitely better than carrying them to Boston to give to us to carry back home imo (08:31:40 PM) ***ke4qqq is fine with standard shipping though. (08:31:42 PM) herlo: inode0: right (08:31:52 PM) herlo: I'll look at the delivery times in the morning (08:31:53 PM) inode0: standard is fine with me too (08:31:58 PM) QUICKSTART: you are correct sir hioooooo (08:32:26 PM) inode0: although I'm eager to see them in person ... (08:32:29 PM) ***DemonJester is in no hurry to get them either (08:32:30 PM) herlo: but I want to have them there *before* FUDCOn so that when requests come, we can distribute them effectively (08:32:40 PM) herlo: which means they need to be in your hands before FUDCon (08:33:03 PM) herlo: IMO (08:33:16 PM) DemonJester: check the costs then determine which shipping method is best (08:33:22 PM) herlo: right (08:33:40 PM) herlo: I think 3-day will be fairly close to ground and thus I chose that (08:33:43 PM) inode0: ok, let's let which shipping method is used dangle and move on (08:33:45 PM) herlo: but it does depend on cost (08:33:53 PM) herlo: inode0: okay, so last thing (08:34:04 PM) ke4qqq: ! (08:34:12 PM) herlo: please all regional ambassadors (and lcafiero) send me your snail mail addresses (08:34:16 PM) herlo: herlo(a)fp.o (08:34:26 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: (08:34:38 PM) herlo: I'll take requests from others as well, but I reserve the right to pass them to the right ambassador for fulfillment (08:34:41 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: go (08:34:43 PM) inode0: first he gets elected then he gets all formal on us (08:34:50 PM) ke4qqq: so also guys - you can order ups supplies for free from ups, so you get boxes and stuff (08:34:57 PM) ***ke4qqq didn't want to interrupt herlo (08:35:05 PM) ke4qqq: order those soon they take 3-4 days to deliver (08:35:16 PM) ke4qqq: and that will give you something to ship media in (08:35:20 PM) jds2001: we already have our own packaging. (08:35:23 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: perfect, I'll do that so I can get one box to bring everything else in (08:35:27 PM) jds2001: oh, for the regionals, yeah (08:35:35 PM) ke4qqq: and also remember this is supposed to last 6 months (08:35:38 PM) ke4qqq: or 5 (08:35:40 PM) ke4qqq: but same thing (08:35:42 PM) herlo: so everyone should have everything by mid-week next (08:35:44 PM) inode0: which packaging are you suggesting for this? (08:35:48 PM) QUICKSTART: so is there a limit for the amount of cds we can ask for? (08:36:03 PM) herlo: QUICKSTART: nope, but you need to justify the amount (08:36:06 PM) ***ke4qqq isn't suggesting anything - just that you order packaging (08:36:11 PM) herlo: in some form. I think we'll hash that out this week (08:36:14 PM) QUICKSTART: cool (08:36:18 PM) QUICKSTART: understandable (08:36:24 PM) herlo: in fact, inode0 can we make a task to hash that out by next meeting :) (08:36:39 PM) inode0: hash what out? (08:37:11 PM) inode0: well, I can make hash that out a task anyway :) (08:37:21 PM) jds2001: how to determine who gets how much media :) (08:37:22 PM) herlo: hash out how we deliver to regionals (08:37:26 PM) lcafiero: Mmmmm hash (08:37:31 PM) herlo: er, individuals (08:37:58 PM) herlo: as far as UPS goes, I was able to add myself to the account yesterday without any hassle (08:38:09 PM) ***DemonJester did as well (08:38:11 PM) ***jds2001 suggests DemonJester getting two boxes and giving one to me :) (08:38:24 PM) DemonJester: lol (08:38:24 PM) ke4qqq: if you need to know, I can tell you what the only charge is for (08:38:29 PM) ke4qqq: and how much (08:38:32 PM) ke4qqq: and where it's going (08:38:38 PM) ke4qqq: and how much I said it weighed (08:38:40 PM) inode0: as did I, as soon as someone bills against it I'll be convinced my 2 hours on the phone with UPS was an utter waste of time (08:38:44 PM) jds2001: put it on the wiki someplace? (08:39:04 PM) herlo: inode0: we'll know tonight as soon as I get snail mail addresses (08:39:12 PM) ***ke4qqq has billed against it (08:39:19 PM) inode0: ok, so we have media and we have UPS accounts (08:39:26 PM) inode0: ke4qqq is special (08:39:35 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh one other thing (08:39:43 PM) inode0: ok, I'm about to move on (08:39:48 PM) ke4qqq: try and ship to your $dayjob if that isn't verboten (08:39:55 PM) ke4qqq: it's cheaper to ship to a commercial place (08:39:58 PM) ke4qqq: eof (08:40:20 PM) inode0: t-shirt update - the floor belongs to DemonJester (08:40:24 PM) jds2001: what if $dyajob is at home 90% of the time :) (08:40:45 PM) ***QUICKSTART thinks 'what would have happended to snail mail if we didn't have snails?' (08:41:02 PM) herlo: sloth mail (08:41:06 PM) inode0: Is DemonJester still with us? (08:41:12 PM) ***herlo yields to DemonJester (08:41:14 PM) DemonJester: T-shirts were ordered today, printing begins on Monday should be delivered to RH Boston by Jan 7 / 8 (08:41:19 PM) ***QUICKSTART 'so true so true' (08:41:28 PM) herlo: DemonJester: w00T! (08:41:36 PM) jds2001: w00t! (08:41:49 PM) QUICKSTART: 0.0 (08:41:49 PM) inode0: what is the thinking about getting them from Boston to wherever they are really going? (08:41:52 PM) jds2001: whose attm? (08:42:06 PM) jds2001: hopefully someone who knows to expect em :) (08:42:21 PM) DemonJester: inode0: no clue.. pack them in suit case?? (08:42:29 PM) jds2001: inode0: my thinking is throw em in the eventbox, no? (08:42:29 PM) ***inode0 travels light (08:42:35 PM) DemonJester: jds2001: mizmo is expecting them (08:42:42 PM) inode0: 300 shirts aren't going into the event box (08:42:43 PM) ***QUICKSTART 'good idea but I ain't doing it' (08:42:57 PM) ke4qqq: I can take a large number of them (08:43:06 PM) herlo: jds2001: DemonJester: we do need to get the Eastern EventBox created and that would be a good start :) (08:43:07 PM) ***ke4qqq isn't flying (08:43:12 PM) jds2001: 300 shirts aren't going in my suitcase either - I travel with a carryon :) (08:43:22 PM) jds2001: 10 might if you're lucky :) (08:43:23 PM) ***QUICKSTART flaps his arms and doesn't get anywhere (08:43:26 PM) ***inode0 says ditto to jds2001 (08:43:41 PM) ke4qqq: 300 shirts is a LOT (08:43:56 PM) DemonJester: I can change the shipping if need be (08:44:02 PM) DemonJester: 9 boxes in all (08:44:12 PM) ke4qqq: can we split shipping (08:44:14 PM) herlo: DemonJester: I think RH Boston is perfect (08:44:18 PM) herlo: for me (08:44:22 PM) ke4qqq: 2 boxes? to each (08:44:26 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: why? (08:44:27 PM) QUICKSTART: so we have to pay for the shirts? (08:44:29 PM) inode0: ok, we'll figure this out but if any are expected to end up with me they'll need to be shipped most likely (maybe by me from FUDcon) (08:44:39 PM) ke4qqq: you have to pay 50 to get them back on the plane (08:44:49 PM) herlo: true (08:45:08 PM) ke4qqq: why not ship two to each regional (08:45:09 PM) herlo: I was going to be building the AmbassadorKits at FUDCon, so I'll probably have a need for at least one box (08:45:15 PM) ke4qqq: if that isn't too complex (08:45:18 PM) ke4qqq: and one to fudcon (08:45:23 PM) herlo: I don't see that being too bad (08:45:25 PM) jds2001: QUICKSTART: the ambassador polos, yes (08:45:31 PM) DemonJester: ke4qqq: that would run up the shipping charges more than likely (08:45:32 PM) inode0: if they are a mix that isn't bad (08:45:32 PM) herlo: it's pretty much the same as Media (08:45:42 PM) QUICKSTART: but for the ones being printed? (08:45:47 PM) ke4qqq: we'll have to pay it one way or another (08:45:49 PM) QUICKSTART: polos not so much (08:45:58 PM) DemonJester: I can check with them, they are closed until Monday (08:45:58 PM) QUICKSTART: k (08:46:05 PM) ke4qqq: k (08:46:14 PM) DemonJester: I will need your snail mails then as well (08:46:25 PM) DemonJester: bpowell01(a)fp.o (08:46:32 PM) ***herlo sends that off (08:46:33 PM) jds2001: QUICKSTART: these are shirts we give out at larger events or in an AmbassadorKit (08:46:39 PM) inode0: why don't the four of us exchange mail and phone numbers and be done with that tonight? :) (08:47:04 PM) ke4qqq: arrghhh now you suggest that after the second email (08:47:12 PM) DemonJester: lol (08:47:20 PM) QUICKSTART: so basically if we order a kit we get one? (08:47:23 PM) herlo: inode0: agreed (08:47:26 PM) ***QUICKSTART crosses my fingers (08:47:43 PM) ***herlo thinks it would be good to have role based perms in FAS to do just that (08:48:01 PM) jds2001: there is :) (08:48:09 PM) G_work: btw, you can send to groupname-sponsors(a)fp.o etc (08:48:15 PM) jds2001: if you're in the 'accounts' group you can see that stuff :) (08:48:28 PM) herlo: not mailing address no? (08:48:34 PM) herlo: oh accounts (08:48:37 PM) DemonJester: eof (08:48:39 PM) G_work: herlo: oh right, doh (08:48:40 PM) ***jds2001 going to be sending to provenpackager-members tonight :) (08:48:46 PM) ***inode0 notes we can close the UPS account creation task and there are no other tasks to process tonight (08:49:10 PM) herlo: yay! (08:49:17 PM) ***herlo puts another mark in his belt (08:49:19 PM) inode0: Open Floor Melee - feel free to throw mud (08:49:29 PM) ***jds2001 throws mud all around (08:49:33 PM) ***ke4qqq splats ianweller with mud (08:49:44 PM) G_work: I have one item as an outsider, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, and a Great FUDCon (08:49:54 PM) jds2001: G_work: :) (08:49:56 PM) ke4qqq: thanks G_work (08:49:58 PM) inode0: we will all see you there (08:50:04 PM) ***DemonJester pulls up chair and watches the two honeys wrestle in the mud :) (08:50:07 PM) G_work: inode0: no you won't :) (08:50:16 PM) inode0: you don't have a webcam? (08:50:33 PM) G_work: inode0: I'll be sleeping most likely during the FUDCon hours (08:50:35 PM) ***inode0 makes a note to project a picture of G on the wall (08:50:37 PM) ianweller: lolwut (08:50:39 PM) ianweller: this meeting is nuts (08:51:03 PM) herlo: ianweller: it's not normally like this, just tonight :) (08:51:04 PM) QUICKSTART: wow (08:51:07 PM) herlo: must be the full moon (08:51:10 PM) G_work: inode0: okay, I'll send you one from the Xmas party :) (08:51:11 PM) DemonJester: ianweller: tis the season :) (08:51:14 PM) inode0: ianweller: this is how productive people behave two days before they get new toys (08:51:20 PM) ianweller: someone get a lof of this and frame it (08:51:20 PM) G_work: inode0: hold on :) (08:51:23 PM) ***lcafiero waits to see if he can get a word about FADNA in edgewise (08:51:25 PM) ianweller: s/lof/log/ (08:51:39 PM) jds2001: lcafiero: sure! (08:51:47 PM) herlo: lcafiero: go! (08:51:54 PM) G_work: inode0: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=75607&l=7451a&id=744113915 pick one :) (08:51:59 PM) herlo: don't listent to inode0, he's a stickler for rules and stuff (08:52:02 PM) inode0: ianweller: I will post the log as I always do (08:52:05 PM) herlo: :) (08:52:14 PM) inode0: timeout (08:52:20 PM) inode0: lcafiero: please proceed (08:52:26 PM) QUICKSTART: wish I could be a fudcon but for those attending have fun (08:52:40 PM) inode0: FADNA has the floor (08:53:09 PM) lcafiero: Okay, FADNA: Talked to Ian and Gareth at SCaLE and they'd be happy to have us. They have some conference rooms available. I have to get from them the cost. (08:53:19 PM) lcafiero: Ilan, not Ian, sorry. (08:53:44 PM) lcafiero: Ilan suggests that we NOT have something during SCaLE itself, but I told him that provisionally we'd have something Sunday like OLF (08:53:54 PM) lcafiero: (but I am not sure, really). (08:54:28 PM) herlo: lcafiero: that sounds reasonable, but they do SCALE on Sunday no? (08:54:36 PM) lcafiero: So they're interested in having us. I haven't talked with LFNW. (08:54:58 PM) herlo: when I was there last year, it seemed Sunday was filled with presentations as well... (08:55:00 PM) lcafiero: SCaLE is on Sunday, too. Ilan's concerned that our event might affect the Sunday program (08:55:12 PM) lcafiero: But I think that's something he doesn't have to worry about. (08:55:39 PM) inode0: should we think about trying to be a test case for the new FAD model? (08:55:44 PM) herlo: I don't think FAD would affect SCaLE, but that SCaLE would affect FAD (08:55:55 PM) lcafiero: That could be. I will talk to him further about that. (08:56:08 PM) lcafiero: Again, I don't have OLF as a reference point because I wasn't there. (08:56:19 PM) herlo: what about a FAD BoF or FAD room for the day. We are going to hav ea booth, we could do something with that I don't know (08:56:22 PM) lcafiero: But I'm assuming FADNA will be held on Sunday morn and early afternoon, like OLF (08:56:26 PM) herlo: sounds like something else to continue hashing out (08:56:33 PM) inode0: I think it might be worth shooting for Q1 or early Q2 if we can pair up with another group (08:56:41 PM) lcafiero: I have to keep talking with these two, but the overall tone is that they want us there. (08:56:45 PM) lcafiero: Which is kind of cool. (08:57:03 PM) herlo: :) (08:57:14 PM) inode0: there may well be funding available to do that right (08:57:53 PM) lcafiero: That's their main question -- how much we have to spend. My response is "how much is the meeting room, for starters?" (08:57:58 PM) lcafiero: We're at that point now. (08:58:14 PM) lcafiero: I'll continue updates this week on the mailing list. (08:58:16 PM) inode0: we really have little to spend in Feb (08:58:30 PM) lcafiero: That's a good point for going with LFNW in April. (08:59:05 PM) inode0: would have more in April, perhaps a lot more if we try to work with another Fedora group (08:59:12 PM) inode0: rather than with a conference (08:59:45 PM) lcafiero: I'd like to go with LFNW myself, but will go with the will of the group. (09:00:17 PM) herlo: lcafiero: chase LFNW if you ask me (09:00:18 PM) jds2001: LFNW could use our presence, IMO (09:00:21 PM) inode0: since there is a new vision proposed for FAD I think we should at least serious think about trying to work with that (09:00:31 PM) herlo: try to pursue both and report back next week? (09:00:59 PM) lcafiero: Will do. (09:01:10 PM) lcafiero: +1 to jds2001 (09:01:23 PM) ***lcafiero is doing three things at once at work -- new personal best (09:01:25 PM) inode0: well to work with the new vision we need to find other groups who are interested (or it would be nice to) (09:02:07 PM) herlo: I think both California and Washington will have lots of folks interested in Fedora (09:02:15 PM) jds2001: but I need to get a flight across the country soon if we're doing this on the west coast. (09:02:27 PM) inode0: I think some advertising is needed to let everyone know that they can participate in FAD now (09:02:28 PM) lcafiero: indeed (09:03:20 PM) jds2001: how bout stemming my flow of negative stuff onto f-announce with such messagin : (09:03:23 PM) jds2001: :) (09:03:46 PM) inode0: perhaps it should be cleared with spevack, I don't know if he is ready (09:03:57 PM) inode0: he likely would do it I would think (09:04:59 PM) inode0: ok, anything else for tonight? (09:05:14 PM) QUICKSTART: nothing that I know (09:05:20 PM) jds2001: is there a meeting next tuesday? (09:05:21 PM) ***QUICKSTART holds his mouth shut (09:05:24 PM) lcafiero: nothing here (09:05:29 PM) inode0: GO Buffalo (09:05:36 PM) inode0: 5 (09:05:36 PM) DemonJester: lol (09:05:38 PM) QUICKSTART: lol Go Yankees (09:05:40 PM) QUICKSTART: 4 (09:05:50 PM) jds2001: go Cardinals! (09:05:53 PM) inode0: stop it, I have to start over when you interrupt the countdown (09:05:55 PM) jds2001: (baseball) (09:05:56 PM) QUICKSTART: 3 (09:05:58 PM) lcafiero: Go Giants (baseball) (09:06:00 PM) QUICKSTART: 2 (09:06:08 PM) inode0: do you want to get kicked QUICKSTART? (09:06:12 PM) QUICKSTART: sorry (09:06:16 PM) inode0: 5 (09:06:17 PM) inode0: 4 (09:06:19 PM) inode0: 3 (09:06:20 PM) inode0: 2 (09:06:22 PM) inode0: 1 (09:06:26 PM) inode0: thank you all (09:06:28 PM) inode0: EOF

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FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2008-12-24
by inode0 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

* Announcements - Congratulations to all FAmSCo election participants. - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-December/msg00… - herlo can't wait and announces the arrival of F10 media. * Speaker Recruitment - Recruiting speakers from various areas of the project for future meetings ... Mike McGrath has agreed to come visit. Suggestions to contact rdieter and spot, jds2001 volunteered. * Media Update - herlo reports F10 live CDs arrived. http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/f10media - Discussion about ordering the second batch of media to be available around the time of FUDconF11 - 2300 each of the installation DVDs for x86 and x86_64 will be ordered. - Boxes of media are being shipped to each regional NA ambassador for shipping on to ambassadors within their regions. - UPS account for shipping NA swag/media is in place - some details still need to be ironed out. * t-shirt Update - 300 assorted Fedora t-shirts should be waiting for us in Boston. * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] * Open Floor - Some further discussion of FADNA plans for the first half of 2009. I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight.

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REMINDER French Meeting today 1930UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-01-04 / 19:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (04 jan.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Thomas Canniot

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kernel upgrade breaks sound line-out (speaker port)
by Debjit Saha 03 Jan '09

03 Jan '09

an upgrade to kernel 2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686 from kernel 2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686 has rendered the line-out not working for me. as in when I use the laptop speakers I get sound but when I connect the speakers to the line-out port I dont get sound!!!

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Fedora Brazil Magazine #4 released
by Henrique Junior 03 Jan '09

03 Jan '09

To end 2008 with a cherry on top, the Fedora Project is glad to announce the release of the 4th issue of Fedora Brazil Magazine. This issue brings a editorial written by Augusto Campos, who draws a retrospective review of Fedora's 5 years and he presents a picture of how it changed the Linux Distributions ecosystem after Fedora's first release announcement. Furthermore, the magazine displays a special approach to the brand new Fedora 10, presenting it in a clearly and simply way all new features and changes of this new release. Enjoy yourself and take part of Fedora Brazil Magazine's promotion and compete for a copy of the book "*Java – Fundamentos, prática & certificação*", by Adilson Bonanovisk. Shell script classes continues. There is also a stroll through SELinux mysteries, headshots in Urban Terror game and an unfailing walkthrough to build your own Fedora up. And there's a lot more, 66 pages where variety won't be a problem. Happy new year and do not forget to download the magazine in the link below: http://www.projetofedora.org/revista/RevistaFedoraBrasil004.pdf P.S.: Scribus source in the beginning of January. -- Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior http://www.lonelyspooky.com ------------------------------------------------------------- "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?!"

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OSCON CFP
by David Nalley 03 Jan '09

03 Jan '09

OSCON CFP recently opened on and deadline is in just over a month (3 February 2009) Now is the time to get your presentations ready and submitted.

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Picture Book....
by Doug Berry 02 Jan '09

02 Jan '09

Concerning the Fedora Picture Book.... I have heard from several dozen printers and publishers over the last several weeks. There are several things I would like to comment on: 1. Using a printer or print-run publisher would be unfeasible because we would have to store and ship books ourselves, to say nothing of mailing costs. 2. Using a POD Publisher, such a Lulu or iUniverse is probably the most readily available option, but it would be the most expensive. For instance, for a 130 page full color book, Lulu would charge $30.50 per book. Anything we make would be added on to that base cost. Most of the other top POD Publishers charge a set fee, such as BookSurge a $499.00 color book package. 3. Using the same POD publishers, if we went with a color cover but black and white interior, the price would drop substantially: Lulu - $8.75 per book after their setup fee. 4. The most economical option would be to go to the POD publishing source itself, which is Lightning Source. They are the printer/distributor for most of the POD Publishers, including Lulu. The drawback here is that we would have to commit to publishing more than one book. If we use Lightning Source the base cost for the full color book would be $6.80 per book. We could sell it for $14.00, not an unreasonable price and make over $7.00 a book. Our costs would be $144.00 up front for their set-up costs. As you can see, we would only have to sell a couple dozen books to recoup that cost. 5. Perhaps, if we used Lightning Source we could do a Picture Book for each Fedora Release. "The people of Fedora 11," then use the same event photos, but add pictures and bios of core developers, Red Hat people, other Project members, etc. I have created a breakdown of the whole process, with cost comparisons. Plus some ideas I had about adding new writers and perhaps artists if we go with some sort of publishing project. I will add links to these documents on the Picture Book wiki, asap. Here are the links if anyone is interested: http://www.scribd.com/doc/9668043/publishing http://www.scribd.com/doc/9669285/wiki What does anybody think? -- w Douglas Berry -- slasherzee(a)fedoraproject.org

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Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 How To
by Charly Manjarrez 01 Jan '09

01 Jan '09

I think its better translate into english then in your native language, happy new year!!! -- mens. original -- Asunto: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 How To De: "Randika Rathugama" <randika(a)randika.com> Fecha: 01/01/2009 07:09 Yeah, but we should get the permission from the Author I think? On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Danishka Navin <danishka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Randika, > > Lets translate in to Sinhala, once finished the proof read for en_US. > > Danishka > > Randika Rathugama wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This is an admirable work. it's well documented. I don't know how to speak >> or read in Spanish. but I read the whole doc using the google translator. >> Those who happy to translate it to English can do the same. >> >> for a an example see how the first page looks like once translated. Please >> click the link below. >> >> Thanks. >> Randika Rathugama (Sri Lanka) >> >> >> =============================================================================================== >> >> >> http://translate.google.com/translate_t#es|en|Fedora%2010%3A%20Parte%20I%20…<http://translate.google.com/translate_t#es%7Cen%7CFedora%2010%3A%20Parte%20…> >> > on%20especificaciones%20inferiores%2C%20y%20es%20cierto%2C%20sin%20embargo%2C%20como%20PC%20casero%20y%0Areemplazo%20de%20Windows%20en%20el%20escritorio%20es%20conveniente%20tener%20un%20PC%20modestamente%20r%C3%A1pido%0Apara%20sacar%20el%20mejor%20provecho%20a%20Fedora.%0AAhora%20es%20preciso%20descargar%20las%20im%C3%A1genes%20de%20instalaci%C3%B3n%20de%20Fedora.%20Est%C3%A1%20disponible%20una%0Aimagen%20(LiveCD%20%C3%B3%20Medio%20vivo)%20que%20usted%20encontrar%C3%A1%20en%20dos%20versiones%3A%20Gnome%20%C3%B3%20KDE%20de%0Aacuerdo%20al%20escritorio%20de%20su%20preferencia > > >> < >> http://translate.google.com/translate_t#es%7Cen%7CFedora%2010%3A%20Parte%20… >> > > ionar%20con%20especificaciones%20inferiores%2C%20y%20es%20cierto%2C%20sin%20embargo%2C%20como%20PC%20casero%20y%0Areemplazo%20de%20Windows%20en%20el%20escritorio%20es%20conveniente%20tener%20un%20PC%20modestamente%20r%C3%A1pido%0Apara%20sacar%20el%20mejor%20provecho%20a%20Fedora.%0AAhora%20es%20preciso%20descargar%20las%20im%C3%A1genes%20de%20instalaci%C3%B3n%20de%20Fedora.%20Est%C3%A1%20disponible%20una%0Aimagen%20%28LiveCD%20%C3%B3%20Medio%20vivo%29%20que%20usted%20encontrar%C3%A1%20en%20dos%20versiones%3A%20Gnome%20%C3%B3%20KDE%20de%0Aacuerdo%20al%20escritorio%20de%20su%20preferencia>. > >> >> =============================================================================================== >> >> >> 2008/12/31 Santosh Kumar <santosh(a)fedoraproject.org <mailto: >> santosh(a)fedoraproject.org>> >> >> Hi all >> I'd love to work on the translation. Does anyone have any >> objections? >> >> Santosh >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Santosh >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Mani A <a.mani.cms(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:a.mani.cms@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> 2008/12/20 Diego Escobar wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi all: >> > >> > Now, it's avaible a little "how to" for Fedora 10 named >> "Aprende Fedora 10" >> > (Learning Fedora 10). This guide is designed for new Linux >> and Fedora user's >> > and its part of spread Fedora on Latam and spanish speakers >> people (its in >> > Spanish ;) ). Installation, productivity, instant messaging >> until >> > customization are convered on easy way. >> > >> > If you consider useful you can download it: >> > http://suservidorwp.googlepages.com/AprendeFedora10.pdf >> >> Nice work. >> >> Please try to use persistent internal links within the document. >> >> The image with partitions is just bad. ntfs--90+GB and / --20Gb. >> please use a better image with plenty of Linux partitions and >> bigger / >> (you can reduce the ntfs one to 9GB or just remove it). It >> sends the >> wrong messages. >> >> Best >> >> A. Mani >> >> >> -- >> A. Mani >> Member, Cal. Math. 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Fedora 10 How To
by Diego Escobar 01 Jan '09

01 Jan '09

Hi all: Now, it's avaible a little "how to" for Fedora 10 named "Aprende Fedora 10" (Learning Fedora 10). This guide is designed for new Linux and Fedora user's and its part of spread Fedora on Latam and spanish speakers people (its in Spanish ;) ). Installation, productivity, instant messaging until customization are convered on easy way. If you consider useful you can download it: http://suservidorwp.googlepages.com/AprendeFedora10.pdf Official Announce: http://proyectofedora.org/colombia/manuales/%C2%A1aprende-fedora-10/ Suggestions are welcome. Regards! -- Diego Escobar Fedora Ambassador for Colombia Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.25 + Gnome 2.22

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