It a honor to appoint Joerg Simon  as FAmSCo Vice-Chair.
Joerg is the most active (if not the only) Ambassadors Membership
Administrator and, of course, a fellow FAmSCo member. He served since
the early beginning as one of the most active, wise Fedora Ambassador,
he helped past FAmSCo taking care of all the membership aspects and
giving his precious point of view.
He is a really important brick in the Fedora community and it's a
really pleasure for me to share with him the lead of the FAmSCo.
Thank you Joerg to have accepted this.
on behalf of FAmSCo
During new FAmSCo's first IRC meeting , I  was confirmed as FAmSCo Chair.
According to the FAmSCo Election Rules , it's necessary that Fedora
Board confirms the new FAmSCo Chair to officialize the result: Paul
Frields made it during the same meeting.
I accepted this role with the acknoledgement that FAmSCo is going to
have a really busy year, with big challanges, great goals but sure
that the whole community will be the center of all its work.
This FAmSCo, with its great elected members inside, is going to
represent, for the first time, all the 4 main areas (NA, LATAM, APAC
and EMEA): this is a great beginning and I'm sure you should expect
more during this year.
All my wishes go to all the FAmSCo members and all Ambassadors: with
team work we will be able to score another point for Fedora and its
on behalf of FAmSCo
This is the log of the FAmSCo IRC Meeting hold Monday 5th Jannuary at
20.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting.
(09:04:09 PM) spevack: let's start
(09:04:18 PM) fugolini: ah, ok
(09:04:24 PM) spevack: is everyone else here?
(09:04:31 PM) fugolini: so, roll call
(09:04:40 PM) fugolini: Francesco Ugolini
(09:04:41 PM) spevack: Max Spevack
(09:04:58 PM) MrTom: Thomas Canniot
(09:05:00 PM) ke4qqq: David Nalley
(09:05:01 PM) susmit: SusmitShannigrahi
(09:05:16 PM) ***fugolini is getting a terrible cold
(09:05:30 PM) kital: JoergSimon
(09:05:55 PM) fugolini: Meeting agenda: 1) FAmSCo Chair Election
(09:06:01 PM) onekopaka
[n=onekopak(a)c-76-121-249-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] entered the room.
(09:06:07 PM) fugolini: 2) Meeting schedule
(09:06:08 PM) onekopaka: okay
(09:06:30 PM) onekopaka: sorry
(09:06:39 PM) ***spevack was lagging, but is back now
(09:07:01 PM) spevack: hello?
(09:07:03 PM) fugolini: I collected Max suggestion in one topic
(09:07:12 PM) fugolini: so, 1) FAmSCo Chair Election
(09:07:33 PM) spevack: !
Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work
(09:07:40 PM) fugolini: spevack:
(09:07:48 PM) ***fugolini is searching for the right wiki link to give
(09:08:23 PM) spevack: before we jump right into this, i think we
should say welcome to our new famsco members, and talk about some of
the things that Famsco is currently responsible for, that need to be
continued, and then some of the things that Ambassadors have told us
they would like Famsco to be more active on
(09:08:45 PM) fugolini: Yes, I was going to do this :)
(09:09:01 PM) spevack: fugolini: ok, go ahead :)
(09:09:23 PM) fugolini: have you finished?
(09:10:07 PM) spevack: if you are going to talk about it, then I have
finished, yes. EOF
(09:10:20 PM) fugolini: feel free to finish
(09:10:31 PM) spevack: ok
(09:11:09 PM) fugolini: sorry but I've a terrible cold ... forgive me
if I'm interrupting you
(09:11:17 PM) spevack: well, the two big things that Famsco has been
doing are the membership verificatio -- which I prefer to call
Mentoring and Training of new Ambassadors -- and I think that we need
to focus on that process -- not only the technical work that kital has
started, but the softer side of training people on how to be goo
(09:11:42 PM) spevack: I did a Fedora Classroom session on that a
while back, and I will do more.
(09:11:42 PM) spevack: the technical work that kital has done is fantastic
(09:11:43 PM) spevack: and i thank him for it.
(09:11:43 PM) onekopaka: isn't this websites?
(09:11:56 PM) spevack: no, this is the fedora ambassadors meeting onekopaka :)
(09:12:00 PM) onekopaka: no wonder.
(09:12:06 PM) spevack: onekopaka: :)
(09:12:16 PM) kital: thanks spevack ;)
(09:12:24 PM) ***onekopaka sighs
(09:12:28 PM) onekopaka left the room.
(09:12:35 PM) spevack: i think we need to make sure that we also
provide proper resources that teach people how to organize events, how
to do public speaking, how to speak about a specific message, etc.
(09:12:35 PM) Zool^ [n=kaland(a)19.81-166-29.customer.lyse.net] entered the room.
(09:12:49 PM) spevack: also the other big thing we do in famsco is
manage the budget for ambassadors and global events
(09:13:04 PM) spevack: which has a lot of sharing with Red Hat's
Community Architecture budget, and therefore the overall budget for
(09:13:13 PM) spevack: the place where i think there is room to continue to grow
(09:13:21 PM) spevack: is in solidifying the processes across
different parts of the world
(09:13:27 PM) spevack: and making sure that things don't diverge too wildly
(09:13:32 PM) spevack: what one region figures out and optimizesa
(09:13:36 PM) spevack: neeeds to be shared
(09:13:42 PM) spevack: we want local leadership and authority
(09:13:45 PM) spevack: but we don't want silos
(09:13:55 PM) spevack: famsco also must be the clearing-house for
(09:14:15 PM) spevack: I am personally very keen on the expanded
"Fedora Activity Day" idea for this coming year, and I think FAMSCO
can be very active in helping to make that successful worldwide.
(09:14:20 PM) spevack: EOF
(09:14:21 PM) spevack: EOF
(09:14:24 PM) spevack: any thoughts or comments?
(09:14:33 PM) spevack: oh, and happy new year :)
(09:14:42 PM) kital: ! yes
(09:14:43 PM) fugolini: I agree completely with your toughts
(09:14:54 PM) fugolini: and happy new year to you too :)
Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work
(09:15:50 PM) kital: today i have updated the join page as herlo
requested it https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join
(09:16:03 PM) spevack: kital: fantastic!
(09:16:10 PM) fugolini: spevack: in that way the fedorahosted group
(FAmSCo) was build?
(09:16:23 PM) fugolini: kital: wonderful
(09:16:37 PM) kital: i have clarified the steps and have added the
(09:16:55 PM) fugolini: I mean, all those BIG goals and the way to achieve them
(09:17:03 PM) spevack: fugolini: i don't know about how the
fedorahosted group was built. i think someone made it, and it's up to
us to figure out how we want to use it
(09:17:11 PM) kital: every new sponsored Ambassador gets a welcome
message with a
(09:17:15 PM) kital: I would like to introduce you to our Community
Mentors from your region, where
(09:17:15 PM) kital: you can ask for help or point your ideas:
(09:17:15 PM) kital: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Robert
(09:17:19 PM) kital: ...
(09:17:20 PM) kital: eof
(09:17:31 PM) spevack: kital: you should write in your blog about the
new Join page, if you want to. if not, I will write about it.
(09:17:36 PM) fugolini: kital: I like the idea, great job
(09:17:49 PM) susmit: !
(09:17:51 PM) spevack: kital: i really like the page
(09:18:04 PM) spevack: it's starting to be more organized
(09:18:06 PM) kital: spevack - please blog about
(09:18:08 PM) fugolini: Anyone want to say something about the FAmSCo
perspective and so on?
(09:18:12 PM) spevack: kital: ok, i will
(09:18:46 PM) onekopaka
[n=onekopak(a)c-76-121-249-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] entered the room.
(09:18:50 PM) susmit: I can take care of the fedorahosted...
(09:19:14 PM) susmit: for other thing, I am more interested to have an
outline of how to follow up the FADs..
(09:19:14 PM) ***herlo is looking at the changes kital made right now
(09:19:17 PM) petreu| [n=peter(a)p3EE3F14D.dip.t-dialin.net] entered the room.
(09:19:25 PM) fugolini: I think we need to divided all the task and
create some groups
(09:19:33 PM) fugolini: *tasks
(09:19:47 PM) fugolini: like it was in the first/second FAmSCos
(09:19:56 PM) spevack: susmit: let's give you the fedorahosted action
item, and i'll take the FAD action item, since it's up to me to
explain further that vision.
(09:20:13 PM) susmit: thanks
(09:20:19 PM) spevack: fugolini: yeah, we need to break down the main
goals and tasks, and ensure that they each have an owner
(09:20:27 PM) spevack: and the famsco chair needs to be responsible
for making sure things happen
(09:20:31 PM) spevack: and that new tasks are added as needed
(09:20:36 PM) fugolini: spevack: +1
(09:20:46 PM) susmit: +1
(09:20:50 PM) kital: +1
(09:21:45 PM) fugolini: So, FAmSCo Chair election?
(09:22:01 PM) spevack: sure.
(09:22:09 PM) spevack: how does it work?
(09:22:49 PM) fugolini: spevack: we could used self-nomination,
(09:22:54 PM) spevack: if he wants to do it again, I nominate
francesco. if he wants to not be the chair this year, i understand
that also. but i think he did a great job and deserves a nomination.
(09:23:05 PM) MrTom: +1
(09:23:08 PM) kital: +1 <- he did a great job
(09:23:08 PM) susmit: +1
(09:24:36 PM) fugolini: there are a lot experienced
ambassadors/contibutors in this FAmSCo (and in the past FAmSCos too),
(09:25:03 PM) fugolini: if you thing you could do this task better
than me, I'm asking you to tell me
(09:25:12 PM) spevack: it's not even about that.
(09:25:28 PM) kital: i think we should proceed with the good direction
we have with your leadership
(09:25:29 PM) spevack: if there is someone else who would like to
nominate themselves or nominate someone else for the leadership role,
then speak up pleaes
Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work
(09:25:44 PM) ***MrTom won't tell anything then
(09:25:45 PM) spevack: there are plenty of leadership opportunities in
famsco for everyone
(09:25:54 PM) spevack: it doesn't matter what we call ourselves.
(09:26:20 PM) spevack: .
(09:26:21 PM) spevack: .
(09:26:22 PM) spevack: .
(09:26:24 PM) fugolini: spevack, kital both of you demonstrates great
leadership in Ambassadors, so
(09:26:41 PM) spevack: fugolini, do you accept what seems to be a
unanimous nomination for another year as famsco chair?
(09:26:41 PM) ***kital thinks fugolini is simple the best choice
(09:26:54 PM) ***MrTom agrees
Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work
(09:27:05 PM) ***susmit nods
(09:27:11 PM) fugolini: spevack: yes, I'm really delighted
(09:27:32 PM) spevack: ke4qqq: +1 from you also?
(09:27:34 PM) MrTom: the king is dead, long live the kink :D
(09:27:39 PM) kital: ;)
(09:27:43 PM) MrTom: s/kink king
(09:27:43 PM) ke4qqq: sorry yes
(09:27:48 PM) fugolini: lol
(09:27:52 PM) ***ke4qqq votes for fugolini
(09:27:59 PM) spevack: alright francesco, you're still the boss. :)
now give us some orders!
(09:28:06 PM) susmit: :)
(09:28:16 PM) fugolini: I prefer to call them inputs ghghghgh :D
(09:28:17 PM) MrTom: what a landslide for fugolini :)
(09:29:04 PM) fugolini: so, now Fedora Board has to approve this
nomination, like the past year I'll send an email to stickster
(09:29:11 PM) balor [n=balor(a)gimili.plus.com] entered the room.
(09:29:18 PM) spevack: ok, what else must we discuss today? i think
this meeting is used to sort out the logistics of the new famsco.
(09:29:26 PM) spevack: and then we get to work on the mailing list and
in future meetings
(09:29:27 PM) fugolini: spevack: Meeting schedule
(09:29:31 PM) spevack: is everyone in famsco on the mailing list?
Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work
(09:29:39 PM) spevack: has the mailing list been updated with the
(09:29:42 PM) fugolini: spevack: I added all the people
(09:29:47 PM) spevack: great
(09:29:52 PM) spevack: ok, meeting schedule then.
(09:29:52 PM) fugolini: both in M-l and in FAS
(09:30:02 PM) stickster: fugolini just answered stickster's question :_)
(09:30:16 PM) fugolini: stickster: ok
(09:30:19 PM) fugolini: :)
(09:30:33 PM) fugolini: I think we have to figure out a possible
meeting time that could work for everyone
(09:31:18 PM) ***stickster happy to see fugolini continuing as the FAMSCo chair.
(09:31:22 PM) fugolini: expecially because this time FAmSCo members
are living in the most different time zones
(09:31:36 PM) spevack: what is the furthest west and furthest east
time zone we deal with?
(09:31:44 PM) fugolini:
(09:31:45 PM) spevack: susmit is furthest east...
(09:31:48 PM) stickster: fugolini: I'm pretty sure the Board will be
unanimous in its support too :-)
(09:31:53 PM) spevack: is brazil or US east coast further west?
(09:31:58 PM) ke4qqq: I think I am the first west
(09:31:58 PM) ajax: dang, seems you can't go straight from f7+ to f11
(09:32:01 PM) ke4qqq: furthest
(09:32:12 PM) spevack: ajax: it's worth a try though :)
(09:32:14 PM) fugolini: stickster: thank you, so
(09:32:15 PM) dgilmore: spevack: brasil is further east
(09:32:16 PM) spevack: ajax: blame seth
(09:32:39 PM) stickster: fugolini: It's nice to see the new FAMSCo
sees all the hard work you helped lead previously
(09:32:54 PM) spevack: ok, so the spread is 9 hours
(09:33:11 PM) fugolini: a big leap
(09:33:22 PM) spevack: well, i guess fugolini wants to use the little
table matrix to try to sort this out?
(09:33:39 PM) fugolini: yep
(09:34:07 PM) fugolini: if everyone agree
(09:34:37 PM) spevack: sure, people just need to fill it in by
wednesday so we can figure out a meeting time to start next week.
(09:34:41 PM) fugolini: I think it's important to have all of you, not
because there are hard discussion, but it's the only place to share
(09:34:49 PM) fugolini: *simultaniously
(09:35:07 PM) spevack:
Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work
(09:35:14 PM) spevack: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ use this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(09:35:25 PM) fugolini: spevack: absolutely !
Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work
(09:36:50 PM) fugolini: so another important point spevack pointed was
how many times we will meet: weekly, monthly ....
(09:36:53 PM) fugolini: ?
(09:37:10 PM) fugolini: I think it will help to have a better idea on
the calendar too.
(09:37:11 PM) MrTom: !
(09:37:13 PM) fugolini: MrTom:
(09:37:39 PM) spevack: fugolini: may i share my thoughts?
(09:37:41 PM) MrTom: well as lots of meeting were canceled last year
(one out of two approximately)
(09:37:56 PM) MrTom: I thinkg we should continue to have a weekly pace meeting
(09:37:58 PM) fugolini: spevack: yes, it's a pleasure to hear you
(09:38:00 PM) MrTom: eof
(09:38:16 PM) fugolini: MrTom: thanks
(09:38:33 PM) spevack: I think we should have weekly meetings for the
time being, and try to focus each week on one of the specific tasks
that we are working on -- one or two -- instead of all of them.
depending on what is most important.
(09:39:01 PM) spevack: but with new energy
(09:39:04 PM) spevack: and some new people
(09:39:06 PM) spevack: and new priorities
(09:39:12 PM) fugolini: good point, it's an interesting perspective
(09:39:18 PM) spevack: i think we will have enough to fill the time.
(09:39:20 PM) spevack: it was embarassing to me that famsco meetings
were cancelled last year
(09:39:24 PM) spevack: i want us to do better this year
(09:39:36 PM) fugolini: sure
(09:39:41 PM) spevack: EOF
(09:40:14 PM) fugolini: Any other proposal?
(09:40:21 PM) fugolini: if not we move to vote:
mbonnet mbonnet_ McGiwer mdomsch mizmo mmcgrath MrTom m_stone mxcarron
(09:40:54 PM) fugolini: 1) MrTom proposal: weekly meeting
Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work
(09:41:16 PM) kital: +1
(09:41:23 PM) spevack: i think it is another landslide :)
(09:41:24 PM) fugolini: +1
(09:41:26 PM) spevack: +1 obv
(09:41:30 PM) ke4qqq: +1
Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work
(09:41:34 PM) susmit: +1
Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work
(09:41:40 PM) fugolini: MrTom/spevack proposal
(09:41:53 PM) spevack: so eveyrone will update the meeting matrix by
wednesday, and then we'll get to work
Kick_ killefiz kital
(09:43:11 PM) spevack: anything else for tonight, fugolini?
(09:43:23 PM) fugolini: just a last thing, FAmSCo Chair has to
nominate a vice-chair, I'm opening to suggestion, BTW, I think kital
has done a great job and it could be a really helpful hand
(09:43:43 PM) cferthorney [n=dthorne(a)87-194-209-26.bethere.co.uk]
entered the room.
(09:44:40 PM) fugolini: suggestions?
(09:45:12 PM) ***ke4qqq thinks kital is a great choice
(09:45:12 PM) spevack: +1
(09:45:13 PM) rdieter is now known as rdieter_away
(09:45:16 PM) rdieter [n=rdieter(a)pcp088903pcs.unl.edu] entered the room.
(09:45:55 PM) spevack: fugolini: kital is just the guy to take over if
some angry ubuntu ambassadors attacks you. :)
(09:46:00 PM) kital: ;)
(09:46:02 PM) fugolini: ehehehe
(09:46:05 PM) ***susmit thinks too
(09:46:10 PM) spevack: actually, kital is the guy i'd want next to me
in a fight. no one would ever mess with joerg
(09:46:19 PM) MrTom: lol
(09:46:23 PM) spevack: whereas someone could snap me like a twig
(09:46:32 PM) kital: hihi
(09:46:37 PM) fugolini: ehehe
(09:47:04 PM) fugolini: so, kital, i assume you have accepted the nomination
(09:47:13 PM) ***kital is honoured
(09:47:22 PM) kital: yes i will work hard
(09:47:30 PM) spevack: you always do :)
(09:47:35 PM) fugolini: so, I'll do all the announcement before tomorrow
(09:47:39 PM) fugolini: *s
(09:48:00 PM) cferthorney left the room.
(09:48:03 PM) fugolini: nothing new from my side, from your one?
(09:48:24 PM) fugolini: 3
(09:48:25 PM) kital: just a side note
(09:48:29 PM) fugolini: tell us
(09:49:00 PM) kital: today i chatted with nman64 and i joined him as a
Administrator of Ambassador Group
(09:49:10 PM) fugolini: great
(09:49:15 PM) kital: i will automate some FAS Tasks and i hope this will help
(09:49:16 PM) kital: me
(09:49:20 PM) kital: eof
(09:49:46 PM) fugolini: it's a great news.
(09:50:09 PM) spevack: good
(09:50:15 PM) susmit: kital, I shall be happy to help
(09:50:16 PM) spevack: what's up with nman64?
(09:50:19 PM) fugolini: thank you for your job
(09:50:21 PM) spevack: haven't heard from him in a very long time
(09:50:38 PM) CheekyBoinc left the room (quit: "Use Fedora Linux ->
fedoraproject.org ++ www.cheekyboinc.de ++").
(09:50:47 PM) kital: ;) he is always around and listen
(09:51:05 PM) nman64: spevack: Not active with Fedora, but ever
present and watchful. ;-)
(09:51:18 PM) spevack: hey man! happy new year!
(09:51:32 PM) nman64: spevack: Happy New Year!
(09:51:37 PM) spevack: it's just good to see you around patrick
(09:51:43 PM) spevack: so, are we done with our meeting?
(09:51:58 PM) fugolini: == Meeting adjourned ==
Marketers and Ambassadors,
I've taken on the responsibility (along with Larry Cafiero) of manning
and supporting the fedora booth at SCALE7x this year.
For those of you who have not been or heard of SCaLE, it's the
Southern California Linux Exposition and it's held at the Westin near
the LAX airport every year. Last year's booth was awesome. It was
my first real induction helping at events sponsored by Fedora.
SCaLE is Friday, Saturday and Sunday, February 20-22, 2009, and while
that seems a long while off, two months go by quickly. If you can
commit to taking the time, we'd love to have you help out at the
booth. I believe the admission price is 50% off (normal price is $60)
for those who help at the booth, and possibly for every Fedora
contributor (more info to come on this later).
This year looks to be an even greater year for Fedora, with a big
movement of Ambassadors in North America, SCaLE promises to be a big
success for us again. The booth this year is again looking for
volunteers and we need to fill the three days from 9am to 5pm, so if
you are interested in helping, let us know by signing up at the
SCALE7x wiki page.
In addition, I'd like to see some new banners to put into the Fedora
EventBox and some posters for the four f's (this is indeed our new
mantra) as well. I know this art is already created, we just need to
get it in place. Thus, I suggest we update the EventBox(en) out there
with these materials ASAP. I've seen discussion of this in IRC and
mailing lists. If you know anything about this, please respond here
with that information as well.
I look forward to a very successful year of Fedora Events, starting
with SCaLE 7x.
1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SCALE/SCALE6X
2 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE7X_Event
3 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox/NA/West
I completely forgot about the December EMEA Ambassadors meeting, my
apologies. It was right before the holidays started and I was busy with
a bunch of other stuff.
But, I've put together the initial agenda page for the January meeting,
which will be on the 14th of the month.
- herlo got an early start on FUDcon and created a Media Box layout
for the AmbassadorKits.
- herlo plans to modify ianweller's fedora-business-cards package to
customize the Media Boxes for each ambassador.
- Need to think about the outer box used to house the AmbassadorKits.
* Media Discussion
- herlo reports F10 live CDs arrived, installation media ordered and
may arrive by FUDcon.
* FAmNA Resource Requests
- herlo reports a new trac instance to help handle media/swag requests.
- This should help ambassadors make requests and should immensely help
us process and track requests to minimize effort and expense.
* Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks]
* Open Floor
- Update on the status of the t-shirt order.
- Brief discussion about changing the frequency/times of FAmNA meetings,
will be conducted on the f-a-l mailing list.
- The Starfish and the Spider was highly recommended by all who had read
it. All ambassadors should read this book. We may have a roundtable
discussion of how this book's ideas relate to our work after others have
a chance to read it.
I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new
ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight.
(08:00:01 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting - Roll Call
(08:00:15 PM) ***DemonJester here
(08:00:18 PM) ***lcafiero plays the role of Larry Cafiero
(08:00:23 PM) herlo: .fas herlo
(08:00:24 PM) zodbot: herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1(a)gmail.com>
(08:00:27 PM) ***QUICKSTART here you know what I was going to say
(08:00:33 PM) ***ke4qqq is here
(08:01:07 PM) inode0: Are there any announcements?
(08:01:24 PM) ***herlo resists announcing anything
(08:01:35 PM) ***lcafiero can't think of anything
(08:01:40 PM) ianweller: oh hi!
(08:01:43 PM) QUICKSTART: Happy New Years to all
(08:02:03 PM) inode0: ok, let's try to stay on topic tonight as much as possible
(08:02:19 PM) inode0: herlo has the floor for the first item, ambassador kits
(08:02:56 PM) herlo has changed the topic to: FAmNA Meeting - Agenda
(08:03:22 PM) herlo: inode0: I snuck in another topic too
(08:03:28 PM) herlo: AmbassadorKits.
(08:03:40 PM) herlo: yes, those are the darned things we've been
trying to get going for some time
(08:03:50 PM) herlo: well FUDCon is only a week and a half away now
(08:04:01 PM) herlo: so I decided it would be a good time to get some
of the pieces in the works
(08:04:10 PM) herlo: so I created the new Fedora Media Box
(08:04:20 PM) herlo: it's been in the Artwork Design Request queue for some time
(08:05:28 PM) herlo: I'd like to preview the new Media Box here: 13:15
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(08:05:34 PM) herlo: ugh
(08:05:37 PM) herlo: let me try that again
(08:05:45 PM) herlo: http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/media_box/
(08:05:56 PM) herlo: there are several images along with three svg files
(08:06:03 PM) herlo: the images are examples of what I built
(08:06:29 PM) herlo: thoughts?
(08:06:34 PM) ***inode0 makes a mental note to highlight that in the summary
(08:07:04 PM) inode0: I think it looks great
(08:07:08 PM) herlo: the svg files do the front and back. You can
print them on one 8-1/2x11 sheet of paper
(08:07:29 PM) herlo: and cut and fold, add some tape and voila, you
have a media box, holding ~10 bits of Media
(08:07:43 PM) crossbytes: I think they look great...
(08:07:44 PM) herlo: the instructions.svg explains where to cut, how
to cut and fold.
(08:08:04 PM) ***herlo should point out that this project was taken
from the Ubuntu-Utah Loco as it was public domain
(08:08:09 PM) herlo: and credit is due there
(08:08:36 PM) lcafiero: Look great, herlo
(08:08:47 PM) ***DemonJester agrees ^^^^
(08:09:13 PM) QUICKSTART: +1
(08:09:18 PM) herlo: thanks all for the vote of confidence. I plan to
create a bit of software based upon ianweller's fedora_business_cards
and automate it when a request is made for AmbassadorKits
(08:09:30 PM) ianweller: that's fedora-business-cards to *you*
(08:09:32 PM) lcafiero: +1
(08:09:36 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh +1
(08:09:50 PM) herlo: because that is the purpose of these boxes, to be
*part* of the AmbassadorKit
(08:09:57 PM) herlo: ianweller: depending on where you look :)
(08:10:45 PM) herlo: In other words, at the Hackfest on Friday,
January 9, I plan to put together at least 10 of these boxes as well
as construct as many AmbassadorKits too
(08:10:46 PM) ***QUICKSTART starts standing ovation for herlo
(08:10:55 PM) herlo: which brings me to my next point regarding this project
(08:11:28 PM) herlo: We need a *sexy* looking box to send out to
ambassadors for a good cost
(08:11:38 PM) herlo: it'll need to hold everything we want in an ambassadorkit
(08:11:47 PM) herlo: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AmbassadorKit
(08:11:57 PM) ***ke4qqq suggests a standard UPS shipping box
(08:12:37 PM) ***herlo thinks that's not gonna do it
(08:13:01 PM) ke4qqq: why?? what do we care what the carrier looks
like? and even more importantly - how would we afford to get it mass
(08:13:03 PM) herlo: I mean those are nice and all, but wouldn't it be
good if we could have a presentable plastic-ish box that we could open
(08:13:07 PM) inode0: I think it might work for starting out - long
term active ambassadors might want something more permanent
(08:13:19 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh pelican!
(08:13:25 PM) herlo: yeah, I've been envisioning a more sturdy
(08:13:40 PM) herlo: ooh, that might work, but they'd have to be much
smaller than the EventBox
(08:13:46 PM) ***herlo will look into that this week
(08:13:53 PM) ***inode0 thinks that only makes sense for active ambassadors
(08:13:53 PM) herlo: inode0: ^^ task me up plz
(08:14:11 PM) herlo: inode0: yes, that's who AmbassasadorKits are targeted
(08:14:15 PM) QUICKSTART: +1
(08:14:21 PM) ***lcafiero has an ambassador box that's actually a backpack
(08:14:28 PM) herlo: +1 on ke4qqq's suggestion of pelican
(08:14:30 PM) inode0: well, any ambassador who has a local event will
want an ambassador kit
(08:14:41 PM) herlo: right, and they can have one
(08:14:44 PM) ke4qqq: I currently carry all of my supplies in a backpack
(08:14:48 PM) herlo: as long as they are ambassadors
(08:14:53 PM) herlo: they should be easy to refill
(08:15:01 PM) ke4qqq: but do I really want 5-6?
(08:15:06 PM) ke4qqq: seems wasteful
(08:15:07 PM) herlo: t-shirts, stickers, etc...
(08:15:07 PM) QUICKSTART: couldn't we get a paper box resembling a briefcase
(08:15:16 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: 5-6 what?
(08:15:23 PM) ke4qqq: the idea was to have this as a no thought item
we could drop off and get shipped
(08:15:26 PM) ke4qqq: wasn't it?
(08:15:30 PM) ke4qqq: 5-6 of these boxes
(08:15:31 PM) herlo: it's one box, you refill it...
(08:15:39 PM) inode0: I just think a UPS box would be quite adequate
unless you are doing *many* events with it
(08:15:44 PM) herlo: more like 20-40 of these boxes
(08:15:50 PM) QUICKSTART: true
(08:15:51 PM) herlo: one for every ambassador
(08:15:55 PM) ke4qqq: hmmmm that seems counter to the thought of one
(08:16:10 PM) herlo: I missed that meeting I guess
(08:16:11 PM) ke4qqq: refilling it means I can't just grab a box on
the way out the door
(08:16:21 PM) herlo: my mind had it that we'd ship out one box, then
refill it as needed
(08:16:28 PM) ke4qqq: I thought that was your original thought
(08:16:36 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: refills are done piecemeal
(08:16:44 PM) QUICKSTART: sounds expensive
(08:16:46 PM) ke4qqq: why?
(08:17:01 PM) herlo: you get one box, and you use it at an event,
restock what's depleted
(08:17:09 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: I guess I can see your point
(08:17:22 PM) herlo: but I think we're digging into minutiae now, we
should save some of this for FUDCon
(08:17:27 PM) QUICKSTART: sorry thought out loud
(08:17:27 PM) ke4qqq: that's just as expensive to ship 100 CDs as
100CDs and a tshirt
(08:17:33 PM) ke4qqq: you are right
(08:17:35 PM) QUICKSTART: rather typed out loud
(08:17:47 PM) ke4qqq: and inode0 a pox on you for saying the word
that must not be mentioned :)
(08:17:47 PM) inode0: agreed, we should settle on whether this is
going to be disposable or permanent soon though
(08:18:13 PM) herlo: inode0: we can decide that this week
(08:18:30 PM) ***herlo votes to move forward...
(08:18:36 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: context - if the ambassador does one or
two events I don't think the project needs to fund a fancy box
(08:18:38 PM) ***ke4qqq +1's
(08:18:46 PM) ke4qqq: I know, but still the word....lol
(08:19:25 PM) inode0: Media Discussion - last minute addition to the
agenda by herlo
(08:19:43 PM) herlo: quickly, I just wanted to let everyone know that
the LiveCDs have shipped
(08:19:49 PM) herlo: arriving before FUDCon for everone
(08:19:50 PM) herlo: everyone
(08:20:07 PM) herlo: and, we ordered 2300 each of x86 and x86_64 DVDs
(08:20:26 PM) herlo: we're hoping for it to be done by Jan 7 so I can
bring some to FUDCon. But we'll see
(08:20:30 PM) herlo: it's gonna be close
(08:20:35 PM) inode0: which reminds me ...
(08:20:55 PM) inode0: everyone who is incurring actual expenses please
remember to update our budget
(08:21:05 PM) inode0: with hard numbers as they materialize
(08:21:19 PM) ke4qqq: +10
(08:21:42 PM) QUICKSTART: would that include travel expenses?
(08:21:44 PM) herlo: inode0: we'll get those from the ups weekly pdf too
(08:21:53 PM) herlo: QUICKSTART: only if you have been approved for that
(08:22:08 PM) QUICKSTART: k got it
(08:22:09 PM) inode0: I wasn't speaking directly about your costs
herlo, you just reminded me :)
(08:22:35 PM) herlo: inode0: I know, just wanted to point that out
(08:22:54 PM) herlo: k, that topic is done for me
(08:23:03 PM) inode0: FAmNA Resource Requests
(08:23:49 PM) herlo: okay, so along with all this media, we now have a
new trac instance that cna be used by any NA Fedora Contributor (read
Ambassador) to request resources from us
(08:23:51 PM) inode0: agenda hat trick for herlo
(08:24:00 PM) herlo: https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests
(08:24:26 PM) herlo: for those of you who are Regional Ambassadors,
ke4qqq, DemonJester, inode0, lcafiero and myself, you'll be able to
login and handle requests
(08:24:44 PM) lcafiero: +1
(08:24:58 PM) herlo: we need to spread the word about this requesting
system. It can handle media right now, but when DemonJester gets his
t-shirts that can be added, stickers is another thing, etc...
(08:25:11 PM) herlo: we can customize this instance to accommodate
(08:25:17 PM) herlo: we can track them and improve our processes
(08:25:19 PM) herlo: plus
(08:25:30 PM) herlo: * Allowing the NA Regional Ambassadors the
ability to view and process requests without duplication.
(08:25:33 PM) herlo: * Avoid duplicate requests for resources.
(08:25:36 PM) herlo: right from the front page
(08:25:38 PM) herlo: * Better planning purchases for future resources.
(08:26:17 PM) herlo: I got an email reply from spevack that he's going
to be implementing this sort of system across much of the fedora
infrastructure for requests...
(08:26:23 PM) QUICKSTART: +2
(08:26:54 PM) herlo: so I'd like to get you all to login and make sure
you can see tickets
(08:27:08 PM) herlo: DemonJester: you should have received an email
from jds2001 already. Did you get that?
(08:27:11 PM) inode0: ok, tasks for everyone
(08:27:16 PM) herlo: do it now!
(08:27:18 PM) herlo: :)
(08:27:25 PM) ***DemonJester shakes head yes already logged in as well
(08:27:26 PM) herlo: it won't take but a minute
(08:27:35 PM) ***jds2001 here
(08:28:06 PM) herlo: inode0: ke4qqq lcafiero all logged in as well?
(08:28:25 PM) inode0: let's say yes
(08:28:26 PM) ke4qqq: should I be able to see ticket #1?
(08:28:28 PM) lcafiero: I get this when clicking on the login link:
(08:28:32 PM) ke4qqq: even tho it's not mine?
(08:28:36 PM) herlo: yes
(08:28:46 PM) ***ke4qqq thought you worked to eliminate that
(08:28:57 PM) herlo: no, only for people who make requests
(08:29:01 PM) ***inode0 doesn't think we need a classroom session
during the meeting
(08:29:02 PM) herlo: the regionals can see these tickets
(08:29:06 PM) ke4qqq: ahhhh ok
(08:29:14 PM) herlo: inode0: it was only to get ppl to login, sorry
(08:29:29 PM) lcafiero: logged in.
(08:29:29 PM) herlo: lcafiero: I'll work with you offline then
(08:29:34 PM) herlo: ooh, cool, nm
(08:29:42 PM) lcafiero: There's something wrong with the link in the
body of the site about midway down.
(08:29:51 PM) lcafiero: The one that says "log in"
(08:29:53 PM) herlo: anyway, spread the word to your regions that this
is the way to get media if you get email requests
(08:29:56 PM) lcafiero: But the one on top works.
(08:30:05 PM) herlo: :)
(08:30:06 PM) inode0: let's just do this right after the meeting in
(08:30:11 PM) herlo: yep
(08:30:13 PM) herlo: sounds good
(08:30:20 PM) herlo: 3 items down, 10 minutes each
(08:30:41 PM) lcafiero: Awww.
(08:30:43 PM) lcafiero: Okay.
(08:30:59 PM) inode0: before we leave this I think the idea and
arrangements look about as perfect as we could get for now
(08:31:14 PM) inode0: should be very helpful
(08:31:29 PM) ***DemonJester notes he really like the idea!
(08:31:43 PM) ***lcafiero does a few laps around the site and likes it.
(08:31:50 PM) inode0: task list is next
(08:32:06 PM) ke4qqq: can we close the ups task?? everyone successfully used it?
(08:32:18 PM) ***inode0 has been a slacker and must finish his clean
up task tomorrow
(08:32:18 PM) herlo: already moved
(08:32:27 PM) herlo: reload that page
(08:32:31 PM) DemonJester: I am in but havent used it yet
(08:32:48 PM) jds2001: I suppose that if we want regionals not to be
able to see other regions I could take TRAC_ADMIN away from em.
(08:32:56 PM) jds2001: but I don't think that's valuable.
(08:33:09 PM) inode0: I don't care who sees what
(08:33:11 PM) herlo: no, I think it's fine
(08:33:18 PM) inode0: no secrets necessary
(08:33:19 PM) ke4qqq: no it's not valuable - but I wanted to make sure
that was expected behavior
(08:33:29 PM) ke4qqq: after all of the silo talking
(08:33:42 PM) jds2001: hehe :)
(08:33:43 PM) ***ke4qqq wasn't aware he was a trac_admin
(08:33:53 PM) jds2001: we don't build silos here, we build community :)
(08:33:58 PM) inode0: ready to move on?
(08:34:01 PM) herlo: yep
(08:34:03 PM) jds2001: ke4qqq: you should see an admin tab in the right corner
(08:34:03 PM) lcafiero: +1
(08:34:05 PM) jds2001: yes :)
(08:34:07 PM) inode0: Open Floor
(08:34:08 PM) ke4qqq: ohh wait
(08:34:13 PM) ke4qqq: what's status on tshirts?
(08:34:14 PM) ***inode0 waits
(08:34:28 PM) inode0: good question
(08:34:34 PM) herlo: task is done
(08:34:37 PM) herlo: I asked DemonJester
(08:34:43 PM) inode0: they are ordered?
(08:34:47 PM) herlo: yes
(08:34:48 PM) ke4qqq: ahhh I see the ordered note
(08:34:53 PM) inode0: to be paid later?
(08:34:59 PM) ke4qqq: arrival date?? where/how are they shipping?
(08:35:02 PM) DemonJester: they were ordered last week.. I called
about shipping to different locations instead of RH boston but cost is
alot more for shipping
(08:35:15 PM) ke4qqq: how much more than shipping to all of us from boston?
(08:35:23 PM) ke4qqq: assuming that the majority of us can't carry them back
(08:35:33 PM) inode0: will end up a lot more I expect anyway
(08:36:03 PM) DemonJester: we can either have them all shipped to RH
Boston of we can ship them to me and I send them out. Roughly about
(08:36:07 PM) herlo: we'll need some for AmbKits, but only like 20-30 probably
(08:36:11 PM) inode0: but if they don't mix them up in each box then
we need to do that anyway
(08:36:33 PM) ke4qqq: what size boxes?
(08:36:54 PM) DemonJester: didnt ask but there will be 9 of them.
(08:36:59 PM) ***ke4qqq is willing to part with 100 to have them
shipped direct I think.
(08:37:13 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: you know about shirts - what kind of
volume are we talking?
(08:37:20 PM) ***inode0 is only worried about getting all XXL
(08:37:29 PM) ke4qqq: lol
(08:37:42 PM) ***lcafiero needs XXL too
(08:37:43 PM) DemonJester: could happen as I doubt they will sort them
(08:38:01 PM) inode0: no, I mean I don't want a box of 50 Small and
Medium only shirts
(08:38:06 PM) ke4qqq: what happens if they (or $carrier) misses the date?
(08:38:29 PM) ***inode0 doesn't need XXL :)
(08:38:42 PM) DemonJester: They said we would have them for Fudcon.
Didnt get any money back shipping promise
(08:38:44 PM) ***jds2001 doesn't need XXL, just XL :)
(08:38:51 PM) ***QUICKSTART what no large???? lol
(08:39:02 PM) ***ke4qqq started out thinking that BOS was a great
destination - now I am worried
(08:39:14 PM) inode0: let's just deal with it at FUDcon, we can repack
and reship from there, right?
(08:39:27 PM) ke4qqq: inode0: again - what if they don't arrive
(08:39:33 PM) ke4qqq: in time
(08:39:35 PM) ke4qqq: on schedule
(08:39:38 PM) inode0: then mo will help us out
(08:39:54 PM) ke4qqq: k - just wanted someone other than me to volunteer her :)
(08:40:11 PM) inode0: I'll give her a pony and it will be ok
(08:40:53 PM) inode0: or DemonJester can reroute them to him if they
are going to really miss
(08:41:14 PM) ke4qqq: k
(08:41:26 PM) ***DemonJester thinks that might be best so we dont have
to reship 5 times only 4 if they come direct to me
(08:41:33 PM) jds2001: a hello kitty pony mind you..
(08:41:40 PM) QUICKSTART: make sure that someone is there to pick up
the boxes though
(08:41:48 PM) jds2001: at red hat?
(08:41:51 PM) jds2001: I
(08:41:53 PM) ke4qqq: I won't have to ship mine either - /me isn't flying
(08:41:59 PM) jds2001: am sure there's someone there :)
(08:42:06 PM) inode0: don't worry about that
(08:42:14 PM) jds2001: right you have the bus :)
(08:42:16 PM) DemonJester: ke4qqq: didnt know that so either way it
would be the same
(08:42:20 PM) jds2001: you driving the bus? :)
(08:42:26 PM) ke4qqq: indeed!
(08:42:49 PM) DemonJester: I will just keep it going to RH then
(08:42:57 PM) DemonJester: if everyone is ok with that
(08:43:07 PM) herlo: yep
(08:43:07 PM) jds2001: if i would have known about it before i might
have joined you :)
(08:43:16 PM) jds2001: but I already have train tickets :)
(08:43:19 PM) inode0: I'm ok with anything that ends up with them
being shipped to me not in Boston :)
(08:43:46 PM) herlo: inode0: yer coming to fudcon right?
(08:44:06 PM) inode0: yes, but I'm not carrying 2 boxes of shirts back
with me if I can help it
(08:44:20 PM) DemonJester: wear them then :)
(08:44:35 PM) ianweller: < TSA> sir ummmm why do you have four dozen shirts on?
(08:44:35 PM) ke4qqq: lol
(08:44:39 PM) ***DemonJester pictures inode0 with 150 shirts on ;)
(08:45:02 PM) lcafiero: heh
(08:45:03 PM) ***herlo was going for the youtube video
(08:45:07 PM) ke4qqq: better question - whats the reaction of central
US ambassadors to receiving a shirt pre-worn by inode0 ?
(08:45:08 PM) ***QUICKSTART winter coat
(08:45:10 PM) ke4qqq: on a plane
(08:45:13 PM) ***inode0 is starting to get sweaty
(08:45:15 PM) ke4qqq: for 5 hours
(08:45:30 PM) herlo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muP9eH2p2PI
(08:45:38 PM) inode0: ok Open Floor
(08:45:49 PM) inode0: I have one small topic
(08:46:16 PM) herlo: :51 in
(08:46:32 PM) inode0: We talked a while back when there was a request
to change the meeting time about revisiting that at some point
(08:46:41 PM) inode0: I think now is a good point in time to do that
(08:46:43 PM) DemonJester: herlo: lol
(08:47:11 PM) QUICKSTART: Would it be possible to make it based on
Eastern Time or any other us time zone
(08:47:18 PM) inode0: no
(08:47:27 PM) jds2001: it is at 9PM eastern.
(08:47:34 PM) jds2001: but all meetings are based on UTC
(08:47:44 PM) ***herlo can't do much earlier
(08:47:51 PM) DemonJester: nor can I
(08:47:56 PM) herlo: and to be honest, I was the one who pushed it this late
(08:47:58 PM) herlo: but
(08:48:06 PM) herlo: I'm up for biweekly meetings though
(08:48:07 PM) QUICKSTART: Saturdays??
(08:48:11 PM) herlo: I think that's something we can do
(08:48:16 PM) jds2001: why is that a concern?
(08:48:17 PM) herlo: QUICKSTART: saturdays are hard
(08:48:18 PM) inode0: I'm going to send something to f-a-l soonish
about this since others who can't come at this time can't give us
(08:48:23 PM) jds2001: 9PM is a reasonable time for me.
(08:48:33 PM) ***DemonJester notes QUICKSTART must not be married for
suggesting Sat.. ;)
(08:48:37 PM) QUICKSTART: just offering an idea
(08:48:43 PM) QUICKSTART: +1
(08:48:53 PM) ***jds2001 could do Sat too :)
(08:49:00 PM) ***herlo could not
(08:49:01 PM) jds2001: but I'm also not married :)
(08:49:01 PM) ***ke4qqq doewsn't want to do Sat
(08:49:07 PM) ***herlo isn't marred
(08:49:07 PM) ke4qqq: would cosnider sunday though
(08:49:09 PM) lcafiero: Tuesdays are better than Saturdays for me.
(08:49:12 PM) ***DemonJester cant do Sat.
(08:49:12 PM) ***jds2001 either really
(08:49:16 PM) ke4qqq: and tuesdays are far better
(08:49:18 PM) herlo: sundays would work now adays
(08:49:25 PM) herlo: but I like tuesdays
(08:49:30 PM) inode0: I am going to suggest trying to move to twice a
month, once at the current time, and possibly once more convenient for
others and a weekend might be worth considering
(08:49:32 PM) QUICKSTART: Sunday is ok I guess my schedule is flexible
since I'm not married yet
(08:49:35 PM) lcafiero: me is married, but that's not why Saturdays don't work.
(08:49:38 PM) herlo: and I've gotten all my other meetings rearranged too
(08:50:13 PM) ***jds2001 still not sure what time FESCo is gonna end up at.
(08:50:21 PM) QUICKSTART: well anything thats convenient for you guys
as long as its not 10 or later
(08:50:32 PM) ke4qqq: in what timezone?
(08:50:39 PM) DemonJester: EST
(08:50:39 PM) inode0: I'd like to see one of the meetings be earlier
in the day so others can come who sleep at this time
(08:50:59 PM) ke4qqq: like who?
(08:51:01 PM) ***DemonJester notes sleep is overrated!
(08:51:02 PM) jds2001: but who in NA sleeps at this hour?
(08:51:08 PM) inode0: max for one
(08:51:13 PM) ke4qqq: he isn't in NA
(08:51:14 PM) herlo: inode0: maybe the biweekly schedule can be early
one week and late for another
(08:51:18 PM) jds2001: he's not in NA :)
(08:51:30 PM) inode0: he would make valuable contributions
(08:51:34 PM) herlo: ke4qqq is our NA FAMSCO rep now, we'll make him
do all the work :)
(08:51:47 PM) jds2001: sounds good!
(08:51:49 PM) ***DemonJester suggests we hold special sessions for max then
(08:51:55 PM) ***lcafiero thinks losing the election wasn't so bad after all
(08:52:15 PM) ke4qqq: why??
(08:52:15 PM) inode0: it isn't just max, people in NA prefer earlier
in the day too
(08:52:19 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh one other thing
(08:52:23 PM) crossbytes: I think weekends and earlier for the east
(08:52:27 PM) inode0: let's bounce it around on f-a-l
(08:52:32 PM) lcafiero: +1
(08:52:32 PM) ke4qqq: +1
(08:52:32 PM) herlo: lcafiero: you and your election losses
(08:52:38 PM) herlo: +1
(08:52:42 PM) ***ke4qqq has a topic when you are finished
(08:52:45 PM) lcafiero: herlo: I'm scarred for life
(08:52:56 PM) inode0: I'll start it up
(08:52:57 PM) herlo: meh
(08:53:04 PM) inode0: ke4qqq has the floor
(08:53:19 PM) ke4qqq: ok - so the idea of special meetings for max
brought this to mind
(08:53:40 PM) ke4qqq: I'd suggest that everyone who can get a copy of
the Starfish and the Spider
(08:53:44 PM) ke4qqq: and read it.
(08:53:46 PM) ke4qqq: only 200 pages
(08:53:50 PM) ke4qqq: and it's great
(08:53:56 PM) ***herlo is reading it
(08:53:56 PM) QUICKSTART: what is that?
(08:54:02 PM) herlo: 2 chapters in
(08:54:05 PM) inode0: read f-a-l too QUICKSTART
(08:54:15 PM) ***DemonJester has it ordered after seeing it on f-a-l
(08:54:15 PM) ke4qqq: and short of Homesteading the Noosphere it's the
best book to describe F/LOSS orgs that I have read
(08:54:19 PM) ke4qqq: in a long time
(08:54:26 PM) QUICKSTART: I would enjoy reading it but where can I get
a copy and what are those texts
(08:54:43 PM) ke4qqq: QUICKSTART: BN, Amazon.com, Borders, etc.
(08:54:46 PM) inode0: after you guys read it perhaps we can have a
roundtable discussion about it
(08:54:52 PM) ke4qqq: yes!!
(08:54:55 PM) inode0: I'd like that
(08:54:57 PM) herlo: +1
(08:55:00 PM) lcafiero: +1
(08:55:05 PM) ***ke4qqq thinks we need to make it part of required NA mentoring
(08:55:06 PM) DemonJester: Fedora book club :)
(08:55:09 PM) QUICKSTART: I'll take a look into it
(08:55:25 PM) crossbytes: +1 DemonJester
(08:55:27 PM) ke4qqq: and that each Ambassador should be considered a
catalyst or champion
(08:55:43 PM) DemonJester: herlo: why not add that in the AMBKit?
(08:56:01 PM) ke4qqq: if we had any spare money I'd say it was a great idea
(08:56:11 PM) QUICKSTART: http://www.starfishandspider.com/
(08:56:16 PM) DemonJester: future thought perhaps then..
(08:56:19 PM) QUICKSTART: thats the starfish and spider?
(08:56:22 PM) ke4qqq: perhaps
(08:56:30 PM) herlo: could do, but the cost keeps rising
(08:56:30 PM) herlo: ing
(08:56:39 PM) ke4qqq: QUICKSTART: yep
(08:56:40 PM) herlo: sorry, got disconnected
(08:56:51 PM) inode0: let's stop adding stuff to the kit for tonight
(08:56:52 PM) QUICKSTART: apparently they have a wiki for it
(08:57:14 PM) herlo: we do
(08:57:22 PM) inode0: and everyone go read the book, it is great
(08:57:40 PM) ***herlo moves over to #fedora-ambassadors
(08:57:41 PM) ***ke4qqq is done
(08:57:55 PM) QUICKSTART: well I'm done one question what does f-a-l stand for
(08:57:59 PM) inode0: any other business tonight - last chance this year
(08:58:06 PM) lcafiero: Quick comment?
(08:58:25 PM) DemonJester: QUICKSTART: Fedora Ambassadors List
(08:58:30 PM) inode0: QUICKSTART: the mailing list where this book has
(08:58:30 PM) QUICKSTART: ahhhh ok
(08:58:37 PM) QUICKSTART: k
(08:58:42 PM) inode0: lcafiero go
(08:59:06 PM) lcafiero: Still talking to SCaLE about FADNA, but would
like to ping everyone even on list about their feelings about whether
to have it at SCaLE or LFNW
(08:59:15 PM) herlo: LFNW
(08:59:20 PM) inode0: neither
(08:59:25 PM) lcafiero: SCaLE is interested in having us, LFNW is
probably more practical.
(08:59:31 PM) lcafiero: or inode0's house
(08:59:33 PM) ***ke4qqq votes against SCALE
(08:59:35 PM) lcafiero: I forgot that option.
(08:59:49 PM) ke4qqq: simply for $$$ reasons
(08:59:50 PM) ***inode0 votes for being champions of the new model
(08:59:57 PM) QUICKSTART: well I must leave goodnight and good luck
for the next year Happy New Year all
(09:00:04 PM) herlo: gnight
(09:00:08 PM) lcafiero: Again we can hash this out on list
(09:00:19 PM) inode0: getting a fedora activity day arranged with
infrastructure or another group within fedora
(09:00:20 PM) lcafiero: done here.
(09:00:41 PM) inode0: spending a weekend just doing FAD
(09:00:49 PM) DemonJester: inode0: that more than likely means East
Coast then since most are located there.
(09:01:14 PM) inode0: I don't think so
(09:02:00 PM) inode0: Max is going to announce this more widely in the
coming days, I would really like to see if any other groups come
forward wanting to join us.
(09:02:43 PM) inode0: It is very likely it can be funded with travel
for critical people.
(09:02:52 PM) ke4qqq: inode0: I thought it was announced already
(09:02:54 PM) ke4qqq: on FAB
(09:03:09 PM) inode0: not beyond the board and marketing
(09:03:11 PM) herlo: it needs to be blogged and emailed on other lists imo
(09:03:46 PM) ***herlo thinks we're done??
(09:03:51 PM) lcafiero: +1
(09:03:53 PM) inode0: not yet though, board feedback is needed
(09:04:09 PM) inode0: then more announcements will happen
(09:04:35 PM) inode0: but I think it is going to happen and we should
try to make it work
(09:04:53 PM) herlo: famnarequests discussion in #fedora-ambassadors
in 42 seconds...
(09:05:18 PM) inode0: ok, any other business for this year?
(09:05:32 PM) inode0: 5
(09:05:35 PM) inode0: 4
(09:05:37 PM) inode0: 3
(09:05:39 PM) inode0: 2
(09:05:43 PM) inode0: 1
(09:06:07 PM) ***DemonJester heads to store for food.
(09:06:09 PM) inode0: thank you everyone, tonight and for about the
past 6 months - we're learning and I hope getting better
(09:06:12 PM) inode0: EOF