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[Event Report] FLISoL Caracas 2009
by María Leandro 24 May '09

24 May '09

Hello everyone. As many of you know, I was a main organizer of Flisol Caracas this year, and also worked with the local Fedora Team on their presentation. The Flisol had an estimated attendance of 1700 people, including 100 installers, 15 protocol and 15 sponsors. We had a hard day with 8 conferences and 12 workshops; as well as the first National tournament of UrbanTerror (a freeware game) and a gpg key sign fest. At the closing, we had the StarWars Club (Darth Vader and one StormTrooper) playing around with the guys. Fedora Venezuela installed a lot of machines and gave out 300 LiveDVDs, 50 bubble stickers and 50 vinyl stickers; and the users were really happy with this. Pablo Hernandez (paceh) gave a workshop about Fedora-USB installations and I gave a Conference about the Fedora Community in Venezuela, and found a lot of new users. I also want to say that we had two major interviews, one on national radio and another on national tv (globovision) and in both of them, Fedora was the centre of attention. This is really good... Next year I'll be the National Organizer and I hope to set up the first Fedora Venezuela General Meeting with all the fedora users in the country. In the mean time, we'll have some workshops at several universities, some stands at national conferences (3 stands) and a special "B-day" for our community. These are some of the photos... but I'm still waiting for more, and the video of the TV appearance. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/sets/72157615817707690/ Bye!!! -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else"

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Fedora Classroom -- Ambassador Tips & Training
by Max Spevack 03 May '09

03 May '09

I'll be doing my "Fedora Ambassador Tips & Training" class this weekend in the Fedora Classroom that is in the India/Asia/Australia timezones. It's scheduled for Sunday May 3 at 0600 UTC. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom#The_Current_Timeline --Max

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Fedora México
by Renich Bon Ciric 01 May '09

01 May '09

Hey, guys! Well, I'm a new Ambassador. I'm glad I finally decided to become one and I hope I can do much for the community in my region. Speaking of which, IMHO, México's community is weak regarding inner collaboration. I've reviewed the list and saw many collaborators (not as many as I would like) in México. This is an attempt to bring unity to us. Juan Rodríguez and Me have set up a facebook website called "Fedora México", which is an extension of Juan's website: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico/ The sole intention is to bring, the mexican community, closer and to be able to collaborate among us to make people more aware of Fedora. Please, we're open to any kind of criticism/suggestion. Feel free to reply and speak your mind! Thanks again! -- It's hard to be free... but I love to struggle! Renich Bon Ciric http://www.woralelandia.com/ http://www.introbella.com/

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Fedora 11 Preview now available for download. :)
by David Ramsey 30 Apr '09

30 Apr '09

Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) =================================================== Have any of you been inquired by your people about the Fedora 11 Preview now available for download? :) The reason for my question is because I am currently distributing F9 and F10 media and I was "wondering" whether others have tried out and/or been asked about the upcoming version of Fedora. :) I currently have downloaded and installed Fedora 11 and the experience is quite nice. Of interest to me is the iBus (Intelligent Input Bus) input method system http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IBus to replace SCIM. :) =================================================== I have been referencing my people and using the information from the "F11 Talking Points" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points as part of my presentation information. :) =================================================== Any thoughts and/or suggestions are greatly appreciated. :v) Lastly, please have a great day and/or evening! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Ambassador dramsey(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey =

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FAmSCo Regional Meeting with APAC Ambassadors, today at 12.00UTC
by Francesco Ugolini 30 Apr '09

30 Apr '09

This email, following the Susmit one, is to remind you that at 12.00 UTC we are going to have the FAmSCo Regional Meeting with APAC Ambassadors. To see your time (thanks to Susmit) visit http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=30&year=20… Hope to see you there Regards Francesco Ugolini

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LFNW
by Kevin Higgins 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

I still have to figure out how to get on the Planet so sorry for posting here.. but I blogged about the LFNW event that we attended .. http://crossbytes.wordpress.com/

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[Event Report] FLISoL 2009 @ Chihuahua
by Alejandro Acosta 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

Hello guys, The LatinAmerican Free-Software Install Fest '09 (FLISoL) has come to a happy ending with 3 locations in my home State, 2 of them with the presence of Fedora. The reports and photos can be found at: http://alejandroacosta.com/eventos Great experience, great response, enormous satisfaction See u next time -- Alejandro Acosta http://alejandroacosta.com

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Event report: Flisol Colombia (Roldanillo)
by Diego Escobar 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

Hi all: We had a excelent Flisol in the municipality of Roldanillo (Valle del Cauca)! The report is: http://proyectofedora.org/colombia/2009/04/29/eventos/reporte-flisol-roldan… Bogotá and Medellín are pending for report. Regards. -- Diego Escobar Fedora Ambassador for Colombia Fedora Release 10 (Cambridge): Linux Kernel 2.6.27 + KDE 4.2

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Interview with Contributor Christoph Wickert (german)
by wonderer 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

Hy, last weekend Christoph and I sat together to record a small Interview about his participation around fedora and also a little about the forthcoming Linuxtag [1] and FUDCon [2]. The 10 minute interview in german is available here: http://wonderer.fedorapeople.org/Interview_cwickert_24_Apr_2009.ogg The total download size is only 3,2 MB. Please enjoy & share! [1] = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag_2009 [2] = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDConBerlin2009 mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer(a)fedoraproject.org

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Strating Group Meetings for North Gujarat
by Zaid Chauhan 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

Hello to all , I now starting new Group meeting for the Fedora fans and Supporters who lives in North Gujarat(India), If any one wants to join please mail me on zaid(a)zaidnet.co.cc with your information so, We can Start spreading Fedora in North Gujarat Please Support Open Source

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Linux Comic Books
by Ankur Sinha 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

hi, I got this as a twitter post.. http://www.hackettandbankwell.com/issues It's a educational comic book that is centered around getting people to use linux.. Have a look.. Looks like a good idea to me.. from http://chris.superuser.com.au/linux-educational-comicbooks "The publication is available to purchase here or you can make a donation which will help them to publish futher material, the comic is ** also available with Ubuntu on cd **. This comic is suitable for all ages and has real educational value so by all means download the pdf and pass it on to younger readers, the illustrations are really fun." I think you'll all figure what part of the above quotation needs to be ammended ;) regards, Ankur

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FAmSCo meeting for APAC, details of date and time.
by susmit shannigrahi 28 Apr '09

28 Apr '09

Hi, [Sorry for x-post.] As per the discussions on the ML, the date and time of FAmSCo meeting for APAC has been fixed as 30th April, 1200 UTC. You can find out your time here[1]. See you all there. Thanks. ps: Don't forget to bring your suggestions with you. :) [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=30&year=20… -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

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Belux Meeting Reminder 2009-04-29 / 17:00 - 18:00 UTC
by Frederic Hornain 28 Apr '09

28 Apr '09

This mail is a note for next meeting for Fedora Belux and _every_ interested people. 2009-04-29 / 17:00 - 18:00 UTC 2009-04-29 / 19:00 - 20:00 CEST -> /!\ Belgium TIME IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est une invitation pour la réunion Fedora Belux, qui aura lieu ce mercredi (29 Avril.) à 19 heure de Bxl sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . Best Regards Frederic -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open(a)laptop.org

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 28 Apr '09

28 Apr '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adimania from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Galdax from Chile https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Atejeda from Chile https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Renich from Mexico https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Linuxawy from Egypt https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Gezimmavric from Montenegro Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Invitation for FAmSCo meeting for APAC.
by susmit shannigrahi 28 Apr '09

28 Apr '09

Hi, You may be aware that FAmSCo is taking up it's meetings to interface with each regions separately. Next week, 30th April, we shall be having a FAmSCo meeting focused solely on APAC. The timing is 1800 UTC. What we will mainly focus on (but not limited to ) is 1) What FAmSCo can do for your region? 2) What kind of FAmSCo do you want? 3) What are the areas of the project you will suggest improvements? As a representative of this region, I shall earnestly request you all to join this important meeting, put in your valuable suggestions, and as you always do, help fedora project become even better. Thanking you. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India

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Venezuelan Friend in Vienna using fedora
by María Leandro 28 Apr '09

28 Apr '09

Hello to all. I have a really good friend that has moved to vienna to finish his medicine career. He is a new fedora user and I'll like to know if there is any ambassador (or fedora user) near him to help and talk a little. He is learning German but he speaks English much better than me :$ (he is near the 17 district ) If there is anyone near that want to help to my friend, I'll be really glad :D See ya!!! -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else"

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LinuxDays 2009 - Geneva
by Thomas Canniot 27 Apr '09

27 Apr '09

Dear all, Is someone going to LinuxDays 2009 in Geneva this year ? http://2009.linuxdays.ch/ Regards, Thomas

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FLISOL BOGOTA
by bm90fox 27 Apr '09

27 Apr '09

Aunque no pude estar presente durante los diversos eventos, si estuve en la Biblioteca Virgilo Barco de Bogota, y pude encontrarme con Camilo Jimenez, con quien discutimos varios aspectos de la necesidad de expansion para Fedora en Colombia, la creacion de manuale sencillos, la importancia de no ser peresozos mentales y de buscar formas de retribuir nuestro trabajo de investigacion y difusion, sin salirnos de la filosofia del software libre. Aunque comprendemos la dificultad por la dilacion en la salida del vuelo de Diego, hizo mucha falta aqui. Debemos buscar alguna manera de reunirnos y comentar lo que quedo sobre la mesa.... De otra parte, al menos dos personas, a quienes invite tardiamente al Flisol, asistieron... e instalaron Fedora 10, el cual pude probar finalmente, y degustar la instalacion de Mozilla y Wine desde la consola Terminal, fue sumamente sencillo... por eso lo publique inmediatamente en Fedora Colombia. Algo que quedo muy claro, es que en Colombia necesitamos mucho mas apoyo.... Manuel E. Hidalgo Emabajador Fedora para Colombia

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Live Radio interview Monday 1pm EDT
by Karlie Robinson 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

I'll be on the Radio Monday at 1 EDT [1] with a few of the guys from RIT, OLPC Grass Roots in Rochester talking about OLPC, SugarLabs, Fedora, Open Source and how it relates to the 4th Grade Math project. The show will stream live at http://interactive.wxxi.org/listen Thanks, Karlie [1] World time - http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=4&day=27&year=2009&h…

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REMINDER French Meeting today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-04-26 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (26 avr.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Merci de répondre à ce message en cas d'indisponibilité. Thomas Canniot

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2009-04-23 FAMSCO Meeting Summary
by Thomas Canniot 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

Hello and welcome to this nineth FAMSCO weekly meeting summary. The latest meeting was hold on April 16th 2009 on #fedora-ambassadors Attendees: Francesco Fugolini Thomas Canniot Regreted attendees: Rodrigo Padula David Nalley Max Spevack Joerg Simona Susmit Shannigrahi Francesco canceled the meeting for lack of attendance.

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Re: Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 46, Issue 6
by Rohan Dalvi 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

Thats a real good thing that even students from various engg colleges are participating actively in the Fedora campaign..well i can help this initiative by creating a forum of sorts for various fedora novices to post their problems. They can then be immediately answered by a team of Fedora experts.. What do you think??

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Open Source Bridge
by Paul W. Frields 25 Apr '09

25 Apr '09

What Fedorans are planning to come to the captioned conference? http://opensourcebridge.org/ -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Re: Yet another website? (Re: [Ambassadors] belux ambassadors meeting log 15th April 2009)
by Paul W. Frields 25 Apr '09

25 Apr '09

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 05:37:13AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 04/17/2009 05:21 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Robert Scheck wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Christoph Wickert wrote: > >>> Let's face it: ATM the changes have caused confusion and discomfort in > >>> the Fedora community. For example fedora.de has been taken offline > >>> because of discrepancies between the trademark holder and the domain > >>> owner. Robert as the domain owner is a well known and valuable > >>> contributor of the project and all AFAIK all he did was redirecting to > >>> fedoraproject.org. > >> I'm really pissed, but still hope that Paul comes up with something soon. > >> > > > > I'm not familiar with the text of the contract but I wanted to mention > > something to those who might idly be following this thread to note that > > Red Hat, as owners of the Fedora name, has to protect it everywhere it > > knows about it. My understanding is if we don't protect it in one case, > > we lose the protection everywhere. So even though the text of the > > contract might be over zealous[1], the contract has to exist in some form. > > As long as both sides stick to it, I'm sure a good middle ground will be > > found. > > > > -Mike > > > > [1] I have no idea what the contract says > > Shouldn't it be made public? Refer to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Trademark_license_agreement -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 24 Apr '09

24 Apr '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pelobravo from Venezuela https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Marley from Brazil Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Open Source - Para los paises Hispano Parlantes
by Eduardo Quiroz Salinas 24 Apr '09

24 Apr '09

Sres. He publicado en mi blog(http://www.eduardoquiroz.cl) los resultados de una investigación publicada por RedHat donde se cataloga y rankea a los países de acuerdo a la utilización de Open Source en ellos y el medioambiente para el desarrollo de éste. Como miembros Fedora, propongo que empecemos en Chile a realizar actividades en pro de escalar en el ranking y en promoción de Fedora. Charlas, Install fest, etc. lancemos ideas y luego las aplicamos. Que cada embajador de Fedora de su país comience a realizar la misma actividad pues en Latinoamérica aun estamos bastante atrasados. -- Eduardo Quiroz Salinas Ingeniero Civil Informático eduardoquiroz(a)gmail.com -- http://www.eduardoquiroz.com http://www.eduardoquiroz.cl Linux user number 344659 KDE User 2453 ---------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Ambassadors] Open Source - Para los paises Hispano Parlantes
by Eduardo Quiroz Salinas 23 Apr '09

23 Apr '09

>Eduardo: >Creo que lo que cada uno hace en su pais, es precisamente eso, >dedicarle todo su esfuerzo a que fedora siga creciendo.... >No se me ocurre otra forma de trabajar por la comunidad. >Por otro lado haciendo referencia a >"realizar actividades en pro de >escalar en el ranking y en promoción de Fedora. Charlas, Install fest, >etc. lancemos ideas y luego las aplicamos." >Eso también lo estamos haciendo en Latam, podrían participar >mas activamente de las reuniones y charlas asi podemos intercambiar >ideas con los embajadores de Chile, como lo hacemos habitualmente con >todos los otros paises de LatinoAmérica. >IRC Fedora-Latam: #fedora-latam >Un Abrazo >Matias Maceira >Fedora Argentina Hola Matías es justamente ahi donde voy. Todos estamos haciendo cosas por Fedora como embajadores, no obstante, tal como señala nuestro amigo de Perú más adelante, estamos "solos" trabajando y eso, al parecer no está alcanzando 100%. Obviamente no haremos del mapa nuestra ideología o nuestra meta, pero Argentina, Perú y casi todo Latam menos brasil, estamos con ranking limitado/mediocre. Ahi es donde apunto. Tenemos que, quizá, unirnos en alguna especie de cruzada por país con todos los embajadores y luego por latinoamérica para levantar nuestros índices-país. -- Eduardo Quiroz Salinas Ingeniero Civil Informático eduardoquiroz(a)gmail.com -- http://www.eduardoquiroz.com http://www.eduardoquiroz.cl Linux user number 344659 KDE User 2453 ---------------------------------------------------

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 23 Apr '09

23 Apr '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kayohf from Brazil https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Milovisho from Ecuador https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Shanix from Pakistan https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Enchenu from Paraguay Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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FamNA Temporary Tattoo status.
by David Duncan 23 Apr '09

23 Apr '09

I just got off the phone with the printer and they are still working up the final quote. They were delayed by my special request that the white section of the infinity logo remain white. Normally temporary tattoos are transparent where the drawings are white. I expect to hear something from them very soon. Barring any unforseen pricing issues, I am expecting them to begin printing next Monday and to be completed by Friday, May 1. Thanks, David Duncan davdunc(a)fedoraproject.org

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Fedora Spirit videos
by Andrew Jamison 22 Apr '09

22 Apr '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello Fellow Ambassadors, I have been looking around for cool ways to promote Fedora and stumbled across Ubuntu's Spirit of Ubuntu videos they are planning for the official media (media ordered from launchpad) that has several videos from prominent people in the Ubuntu community that have helped some way or another. I think something similar but not neccessarily the same exact model would be cool to include on media that is handed out at events so people can show this to their friends and help to further spread the word. Information on the Ubuntu program can be found here for reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase Anyway just an idea but let me know what you guys think thanks, Andrew Jamison IRC: ajamison5579 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iJwEAQECAAYFAknjxbwACgkQh7SjI2F18kPHYgP+NL8l7g6k87A8Mta0oSL7Dixb GU/V9Hidco5FNzNJELUC47L9I7MPwxH768g3iJNWlcl3Z6m+D0uzNhICA0NnK5dJ W1DcvwWzbFy0MeMZnX4wmUZXh9AuO64ecGmMi7VEkF/VO39pkd937hun71rueiUy iyUgHJxGo1UUgzMLjAA= =itue -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Mumbai, India Engg. Colleges interested in Fedora
by Ankit Jain | Kamyab 22 Apr '09

22 Apr '09

Hey All, GREETINGS OF THE DAY! Well, here is a little news, that is bright for us, a few Engg. Colleges in Mumbai, are keenly interested in going ahead, and having at least 1 Full Fledged Open Source Lab. ;) And through my contacts, i went ahead and pushed Fedora for the setup, currently the pipeline is at the "talks level", but is very optimistic. We can look at a time frame of say the mid of may for the ball to be rolling or even before that. We will need the following during the setup phase:- 1. Complete setup guides, for novice users, which can be given to the lab incharges, along with network install guides and setup disks / Images. 2. A technical support hand a place where they can post their queries and interact. 3. And (only if required) someone who can actually go to these colleges and help during the setup. Post the setup of the labs, i expect there to be a requirement of say a training programme for students, in these colleges, or maybe (please pardon my ignorance) something like a fedora camp, or say a fedora centre for Open Minds, etc. Be setup in these colleges... i'm not aware of such programs and would request information from the mentors, on how to go about such a scenario. Hope fully this development will bring us closer to our common goal J. With Best Regards, Ankit Jain | http://osg.co.in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankit1999 E | <mailto:ankit.jain@kamyabindia.com> ankit.jain(a)kamyabindia.com M| +91.9967622257 - Mumbai, IM | <mailto:ankit1999@hotmail.com> ankit1999(a)hotmail.com, <mailto:ank1999@yahoo.com> ank1999(a)yahoo.com, <mailto:ankit1999@gmail.com> ankit1999(a)gmail.com Skype | ankit1999

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NLUUG Filesystems & Storage (May 7th)
by Jeroen van Meeuwen 22 Apr '09

22 Apr '09

Hello, I'm sending you this announcement because it's a very interesting event organized by the Dutch UUG, on the subject of Filesystems & Storage, with key people giving keynotes and sessions amongst which is the core developer of ext4. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip == Every bit counts. From a single byte to billions of images, from one line of text to a gigantic tangled semantic web of documents, from clay tablets to 3D holographic memory, storage and the means to organize storage have always been important to humanity. Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes, it was said; a sailboat crossing the Atlantic still manages rates of a little over 1GB/s end-to-end. A petabyte of storage weighs about as much as a small car, but a large physics experiment can fill that up in less than a week. The modern rate of data production and amount of data storage --and crucially also data search and retrieval-- have pushed the limits of computer storage and the traditional file system further and further back. The NLUUG Spring Conference 2009 focuses on storage and the means to organise it: file systems, physical storage, connections and search. The keynote speaker at the conference will be Ted Ts'o, author of the ext4 file system in Linux and CTO of the Linux Foundation. Other subjects at the conference are DRBD, desktop search and ZFS. The conference is in conference center 'De Reehorst' in Ede, The Netherlands. Information about the full programme and registration can be found at the conference website: http://www.nluug.nl/events/vj09/index.html As always members of NLUUG and sister organisations as well as students get a hefty discount.

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Report on KGEC Freedomfest '09 [cross post]
by Rohit Gupta 22 Apr '09

22 Apr '09

[Cross posting in different Mailing List] The report on KGEC FreedomFest '09 is uploaded. Here's the Link. http://groups.google.com/group/kgeclug/browse_thread/thread/37d74648a8ee8f3d Regards: Rohit Gupta GLUG KGEC

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An ambassador from Maldives
by Neo Reeves 22 Apr '09

22 Apr '09

Hi, My name is Sameeh and I am a Fedora ambassador for Maldives. We are trying to start a locally registered NGO which supports Open Source Software in the Maldives. There is not much activity going on to bring OSS to the attention of the public yet effectively. No Fedora release parties, or other even for that matter... Very few events had been held ages ago to promote Linux and Open Source Can I have your recommendations and ideas to get the whole thing jump started in a colourful way? Thnx, Sameeh

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FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-04-21
by inode0 22 Apr '09

22 Apr '09

(08:00:16 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting Time (08:00:26 PM) ***lcafiero cheers DemonJester (08:00:31 PM) inode0: rollcall with wikilink please (08:00:32 PM) lcafiero: am I on time? (08:00:43 PM) ***lcafiero stars as larry cafiero (08:00:52 PM) ke4qqq: lcafiero: no- you were here early (08:01:01 PM) ke4qqq: [[David Nalley| User:ke4qqq]] (08:01:17 PM) lcafiero: Oh, wikilink (08:01:32 PM) lcafiero: [[Larry Cafiero|User:lcafiero]] (08:01:43 PM) DemonJester: [[Brian Powell|User:bpowell01]] (08:01:55 PM) ninjazjb_: Jason Brown|jasonbrown17 (08:01:59 PM) lcameron_: [[Leigh Cameron|User:lcamero]] (08:02:01 PM) ke4qqq: hmmmm wonder if that's right? (08:02:10 PM) inode0: .wikilink inode0 (08:02:11 PM) zodbot: inode0: [[User:inode0|John T. Rose]] (08:02:22 PM) ke4qqq: hah I knew I had it wrong! (08:02:24 PM) lcafiero: showoff (08:02:25 PM) lcameron_: Hacks! (08:02:32 PM) DemonJester: we were just following you :) (08:02:54 PM) inode0: well, it was a nice thought (08:02:59 PM) dthomasdigital: inode0 I'm here just let me know when you need me to chime in. (08:03:32 PM) inode0: Announcements? (08:03:41 PM) herlo: .fas herlo (08:03:41 PM) zodbot: herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1(a)gmail.com> (08:04:02 PM) leitz: .fas leitz (08:04:03 PM) lcafiero: LFNW is this weekend. Watch for Larry the Fedora Guy blogs for daily updates starting tomorrow. (08:04:03 PM) zodbot: leitz: leam 'Leam Hall' <leam(a)reuel.net> (08:04:09 PM) inode0: wikilink is a lot more helpful (08:04:22 PM) ***leitz mostly lurking tonight. (08:04:34 PM) herlo has changed the topic to: FAmNA Meeting - Announcements (08:04:35 PM) DemonJester: Went to Barcamp Rochester this past Sat. with Karlie report will be posted tomorrow (08:04:49 PM) ke4qqq: DemonJester: cool (08:05:38 PM) inode0: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-04-21 <--- agenda (08:06:02 PM) dthomasdigital: I gave a presentation April 16, 2009 Las Cruces, NM - Southwest Regional Technology Symposium those guys gobbled up the fedora stuff (08:06:29 PM) herlo has changed the topic to: FAmNA Meeting - Agenda available: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-04-21 (08:06:49 PM) lcafiero: Um, I added an item to the agenda this afternoon around 4 and it doesn't seem to be there. (08:07:13 PM) inode0: it is there (08:07:13 PM) lcafiero: Oh wait, it is. Never mind. (08:07:23 PM) ***lcafiero sits down and awaits the pointy cap. (08:08:02 PM) ke4qqq: spevack said he was going to attend (08:08:06 PM) ke4qqq: but.....don't see him on (08:08:14 PM) inode0: yeah, I'm stalling (08:08:19 PM) crossbytes: ? (08:08:20 PM) ke4qqq: and I understand he is either traveling to or in raleigh (08:08:30 PM) inode0: should be in raleigh (08:09:05 PM) inode0: but unless there is other event business we are ready to begin budget stuff (08:09:38 PM) ***inode0 can report that jds2001 was pleased with the NYLUG event (08:09:48 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:10:09 PM) ke4qqq: whats with NYLUG?? how was turn out - I must have missed the event report jds2001 (08:10:30 PM) inode0: I haven't seen a report beyond a quick chat about it (08:10:33 PM) ***ke4qqq has an event report in the hopper that'll hopefully make it out tomorrow (08:11:06 PM) inode0: ok, let's begin budget stuff (08:11:21 PM) inode0: we have a number of things in the pipeline (08:11:32 PM) inode0: dthomasdigital: want to start us off with case badges (08:11:47 PM) dthomasdigital: Sure (08:12:31 PM) dthomasdigital: I'm still working ion the artwork to make sure it's official should be done tomorrow and will have it sent to Duffy for approval (08:12:57 PM) ke4qqq: what's cost?? (08:13:00 PM) herlo: dthomasdigital: I can help you with that if needed, I am on the art team. (08:13:01 PM) ke4qqq: and quantity? (08:13:36 PM) dthomasdigital: herlo I'll take you up on that, I'll send it to you first before I send it to Duffy (08:14:29 PM) herlo: dthomasdigital: k, use your fedorapeople account, that's what it's there for :) (08:14:47 PM) herlo: dthomasdigital: tell ke4qqq how many :) (08:14:55 PM) herlo: and how much (08:15:22 PM) dthomasdigital: Cost is $455.00 for 500 $520.00 for 1000 Plus a one time set up fee of $95.00 (08:15:58 PM) inode0: did the bigger quantity quote come in? guessing it didn't ... (08:16:24 PM) ke4qqq: k (08:16:28 PM) inode0: the marginal cost for the 2nd 500 is nothing (08:16:33 PM) ke4qqq: yep (08:16:38 PM) dthomasdigital: $600.00 for 1500 $680.00 for 2000 (08:16:38 PM) DemonJester: Are they glossed? (protective covering in other words) (08:16:40 PM) ke4qqq: I am curious how much even more are (08:16:51 PM) dthomasdigital: Yes they are protected (08:16:54 PM) inode0: since the initial cost is steep I'm leaning toward going as big as we can (08:17:19 PM) dthomasdigital: and these are aluminum (08:17:27 PM) ke4qqq: thickness? (08:17:27 PM) leitz: Once the initial cost is paid for the first order, does it have to be redone for a second order? (08:17:36 PM) DemonJester: 2000 is a pretty small order considering they will be reusable. (08:17:38 PM) dthomasdigital: No it's a one time fee (08:17:49 PM) inode0: leitz: yes, but not the setup fee (08:17:57 PM) herlo: DemonJester: reusable? (08:18:01 PM) inode0: the cost of 500 more would likely still be $455 (08:18:07 PM) DemonJester: from release to release (08:18:25 PM) DemonJester: herlo: ^^^^ (08:18:52 PM) inode0: we haven't decided how many at this point, but I'd like to go as big as we can :) (08:18:55 PM) ke4qqq: dthomasdigital: not to heep more work on you, but find out what 5k costs (08:19:09 PM) crossbytes: reusable? I think u answered my question.. from release to release (08:19:10 PM) ke4qqq: if it's less than 1000 we should do that (08:19:17 PM) herlo: DemonJester: ahh, okay (08:19:18 PM) ke4qqq: IMO (08:19:22 PM) DemonJester: inode0: I agree, I get requests for these all of the time (08:19:25 PM) inode0: looks like about $80/500 (08:19:55 PM) ***herlo wants some +1s for the 2000 in quantity ($680) (08:20:26 PM) dthomasdigital: +1 and no problem getting a quote on 5000 (08:20:28 PM) DemonJester: +1 for the 2000@$680 but would like higher qty.. (08:20:30 PM) ***inode0 wants larger options but would +1 2000 if that is my only choice (08:20:38 PM) ke4qqq: I'll give you a +1 for 2000, provided he tries for getting 5000 for 1000 bucks (08:20:45 PM) crossbytes: +1 (08:20:50 PM) leitz: +1 for larger (08:21:03 PM) lcafiero: I agree +1, but I'm also interested in a higher number. (08:21:06 PM) ke4qqq: 5000 is nothing IMO - well burn that in no time (08:21:16 PM) DemonJester: ke4qqq: I totally agree (08:21:56 PM) dthomasdigital: Just sent an email requesting a quote for 5000 units. (08:21:56 PM) herlo: do we know how much those are? (08:22:04 PM) herlo: dthomasdigital: add 10k too (08:22:19 PM) inode0: we can't afford 10k I'm sure this quarter (08:22:22 PM) dthomasdigital: herlo you read my mind (08:22:38 PM) herlo: inode0: well, if I can't get the rest of the stuff done before eoq we sure can (08:22:44 PM) herlo: and I'm really struggling... (08:22:54 PM) inode0: we have other items in the queue too (08:22:58 PM) inode0: but ok (08:23:08 PM) herlo: inode0: true, but I was looking to spend about $1k (08:23:18 PM) herlo: not including media :) (08:23:21 PM) inode0: since others aren't present let me discuss tattoos and pens (08:23:28 PM) leitz: on 10K, maybe split payment so we can see the quality and the vendor gets an advantage. (08:23:53 PM) inode0: tattoos are mostly ready to go pending art approval - design is in place (08:24:08 PM) DemonJester: link? (08:24:10 PM) ke4qqq: they have TM mark? (08:24:13 PM) ke4qqq: link? (08:24:25 PM) inode0: basically powered by fedora tattoos changed to be empowered by fedora (08:24:55 PM) inode0: nicu provided art that is being modified to meet necessary requirements (08:25:52 PM) ke4qqq: while I really like nicus work, I also want to see the art before we spend the money (08:25:57 PM) ***inode0 looks for link (08:26:26 PM) inode0: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/pngSzYYTMEBc9.png (08:27:06 PM) inode0: so the price on 5000 of these runs only in the neighborhood of $300, I requested a quote for 10K on them (08:27:09 PM) ke4qqq: no TM there... (08:27:19 PM) lcameron_: +1 I like that (08:27:20 PM) ke4qqq: but I like the design (08:27:22 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: don't worry, this isn't final art - just the design (08:27:27 PM) ninjazjb_: looks good (08:27:35 PM) lcafiero: This is for the tattoo? (08:27:39 PM) inode0: yes (08:27:41 PM) dthomasdigital: empowered by fedora slogan rules (08:27:45 PM) ke4qqq: so two questions - is the white really going to be white? (08:27:51 PM) ke4qqq: or just clear? (08:27:58 PM) ke4qqq: and thats my two questions :) (08:28:10 PM) ***DemonJester would prefer something more tribal but that is because I already have a few of the real deal ;) (08:28:18 PM) inode0: I don't know, nicu requested details and I haven't heard back on them (08:29:05 PM) inode0: but that can all be worked out - for the budget I'm more concerned about pricing tonight (08:29:30 PM) inode0: I see no problem approving the 5000 in any event (08:29:39 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: clear (08:30:05 PM) ***inode0 would not like the f to be clear (08:30:06 PM) ke4qqq: well 1. I don't think that will cut it with logo guidelines and 2. white is offered for free by most places (08:30:16 PM) ***ke4qqq wouldn't wither (08:30:19 PM) ke4qqq: either (08:30:23 PM) ke4qqq: or the fedora name (08:30:28 PM) inode0: nope (08:30:32 PM) ***herlo thinks clear would be cool (except for the f) (08:30:44 PM) herlo: and clear would work in that situation (08:30:44 PM) ***lcafiero agrees with herlo (08:31:12 PM) DemonJester: to be honest I think white would make it look like nothing more than a sticker (08:31:24 PM) dthomasdigital: My son just told me he's ready for his fedora tattoo, (his 11) so they are all ready popular. (08:31:37 PM) herlo: in fact, the tm might not even be a requirement because 1) it wears off 2) it's so small, it'll smudge quickly and 3) nobody will be able to tell what it is anyway (08:31:45 PM) inode0: well, if we just used the fedora logo as originally planned it would just look like a sticker too (08:32:28 PM) ***herlo also argues that the stickers I was working on a while back had the tm on the sticker paper, but wouldn't when removed. mizmo was *ok* with that. (08:32:43 PM) inode0: yes, that is fine (08:32:55 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: mo gave us some options for getting around it, and that wasn't one of them. - the absent when applied/removed from paper worked ok with her (08:33:13 PM) ninjazjb_: if there is no white, will the blue outline smudge faster? (08:33:48 PM) inode0: let's discuss this with davdunc later, he is doing this and is not present here (08:34:09 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: right (08:34:15 PM) ***lcafiero has some of those stickers, I think. They're about 3" in diameter, execpt for where it teardrops at the bottom? (08:34:32 PM) ke4qqq: I have some of the FF tats (08:34:34 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: the options for getting around the stickers seems to apply to the tattoos... (08:34:37 PM) ke4qqq: and iirc they are 2x2 (08:34:44 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: yep (08:35:00 PM) herlo: k, the first part of your statement was confusing :/ (08:35:03 PM) ***inode0 doesn't care about the TM, if the TM police want them we'll add them :) (08:35:13 PM) herlo: right (08:35:16 PM) herlo: +1 (08:35:16 PM) lcafiero: heh (08:35:16 PM) inode0: we don't have a ruling now (08:36:09 PM) ke4qqq: ok - well +1 for moving forward then (08:36:11 PM) inode0: next are pens being investigated by several people including maxamillion (08:36:15 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:36:44 PM) inode0: bic click stick pens with fedora branding on the barrel and clip seem to run about $300/1000 (08:37:25 PM) inode0: thoughts or comments on pens? (08:37:39 PM) ***jds2001 here, late (08:37:47 PM) lcafiero: I just got back from the MySQL conference and have about 50 pens. They're always useful. (08:38:12 PM) jds2001: lcafiero: s/conference/funeral :( (08:38:15 PM) ke4qqq: -1 to pens (08:38:16 PM) lcafiero: I like the idea of Fedora pens (08:38:32 PM) leitz: Pens--space out swag, Case badges this quarter, maybe pens the next. (08:38:39 PM) ke4qqq: I don't - I keep my fedora pen as a showpiece, but don't use it. (08:38:40 PM) ***lcafiero nods at jds2001 -- right, pretty somber event today. (08:38:56 PM) lcameron_: I think pens are over done... I have tons of promo pens from lan parties (08:38:58 PM) ke4qqq: lcafiero: the postgres people seemed pretty happy :) (08:39:05 PM) lcafiero: heh (08:39:47 PM) inode0: well, case badges and stickers are overdone too but that doesn't stop us (08:40:06 PM) inode0: swag is limited (08:40:16 PM) lcafiero: that may be lcameron_ but I think they're still good to have available, imho (08:40:22 PM) inode0: pens are one of the few sorts of swag that have an actual use (08:41:02 PM) ke4qqq: tshirts have a use (08:41:07 PM) ke4qqq: stickres have a use (08:41:12 PM) ke4qqq: pins have a use (08:41:16 PM) ke4qqq: :) (08:41:22 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: your objection to pens is what? (08:41:42 PM) lcafiero: those stress balls in the shape of penguins have a use (got some today) (08:41:46 PM) ke4qqq: that they are overdone - that to be effective they are always 'cheap' (08:41:52 PM) inode0: tshirts fill drawers (08:42:00 PM) ke4qqq: I wear fedora shirts all the time (08:42:25 PM) inode0: I use pens all the time, I wear tshirts on occasion (08:42:34 PM) ninjazjb_: mouse pads? (08:43:03 PM) ke4qqq: I'd rather see us do hats than pens....but I'll shut up now (08:43:06 PM) inode0: I see a downside to pens (08:43:15 PM) lcafiero: ooooh, hats. (08:43:26 PM) inode0: they are gobbled up by anyone seeing them (08:43:40 PM) dthomasdigital: I wear my linux journal hat all the time (08:43:41 PM) lcafiero: <---- bald guys like him always need them (08:43:51 PM) DemonJester: how about "New Era Fedora Hats"? (08:44:02 PM) inode0: hats cost more than 30 cents too :) (08:44:14 PM) ***herlo thinks hats are cost prohibitive (08:44:18 PM) lcafiero: sigh . . . good point (08:44:57 PM) leitz: Fewer hats but have business card drawings for them. (08:44:57 PM) ke4qqq: can't imagine it's worse than tshirts, but far more than 30cents (08:45:12 PM) inode0: it is far worse than shits (08:45:18 PM) inode0: bad typo (08:45:19 PM) lcafiero: shirts (08:45:24 PM) lcafiero: heh (08:46:02 PM) inode0: well, maybe not in quantity (08:46:35 PM) inode0: we priced some for the summit in the past and they were prohibitive in small amounts (08:46:55 PM) ke4qqq: so are shirts in small quantities, we had to hit 200 to get decent prices iirc (08:46:56 PM) jds2001: inode0: what did the visors cost? (08:47:11 PM) jds2001: there werent many of those iirc (08:47:17 PM) inode0: jds2001: I'd have to try to remember (08:47:30 PM) inode0: no, we switched to visors because we couldn't afford hats (08:47:43 PM) DemonJester: ke4qqq: 270 shirts to get big discount (08:47:51 PM) jds2001: and the embroiderly is ultra-simple (08:48:17 PM) inode0: right ke4qqq, I'm agreeing hats might be doable in that amount (08:48:45 PM) lcameron_: what about bouncy balls? I got a few from Bawls... they were different (08:48:50 PM) inode0: but we are talking about $1K+ for 300 rather than $300 for 1K (08:49:50 PM) herlo: inode0: nice one, watch your language! (08:49:55 PM) inode0: in any event, hearing objection we'll revisit pens later (08:50:03 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:50:08 PM) DemonJester: +1 (08:50:14 PM) lcameron_: +1 (08:50:23 PM) inode0: for now, we can focus on getting as many tattoos and badges as we can swing (08:51:04 PM) inode0: herlo: if you are available have any further comment on banners? (08:51:14 PM) lcafiero: actually, leitz's suggestion about spacing swag is a good one. (08:51:33 PM) inode0: next Q we will have big media bills (08:51:51 PM) ***inode0 thinks we have more flexibility this Q (08:53:36 PM) herlo: inode0: sure, I am here but semi-busy (08:53:39 PM) herlo: I'll go fast (08:54:05 PM) ***herlo is struggling with the banners being exported to cmyk, but I think I got it yesterday. Once that's done, we should have retractable banners ordered. (08:54:12 PM) herlo: current target date for ordering is May 1 (08:54:28 PM) inode0: that sounds excellent (08:54:33 PM) herlo: cost is about $300-450/banner depending on style and strength (08:54:47 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:54:51 PM) herlo: but they fit in a 24" wide by 6" high roll-up (08:55:01 PM) herlo: thus, they'll fit into the eventboxen (08:55:01 PM) ***inode0 +1 to getting them as good as we can (08:55:06 PM) ***ianweller waves (08:55:26 PM) dthomasdigital: When do I need to start asking for support for the event I have coming up in November (sorry to jump the gun.) (08:55:34 PM) inode0: next Q (08:55:41 PM) dthomasdigital: cool (08:55:50 PM) ***herlo points out that costs could be spread through 2 quarters if other items are ordered. I would guess there's going to be a setup charge too, but it should be minimal (08:55:56 PM) herlo: and then we can order more. (08:56:14 PM) herlo: they're going to look like this: http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/art/fedora_four_fs_vertical_banner_330x800.png (08:56:49 PM) inode0: oh, so we could get one in Q1 and another in Q2 (08:56:58 PM) ***inode0 notes more flexibility (08:57:06 PM) ***lcafiero hates that xchat makes him refer to himself in the third person, but he likes the banners a lot (08:57:40 PM) inode0: ok, I'd like to make a couple remarks to wrap this up (08:57:53 PM) inode0: (1) herlo proceed and keep us posted (08:57:59 PM) ke4qqq: on time?? surely you jest (08:58:24 PM) herlo: inode0: yeah, 1 in q1, one in q2, maybe another in q3 (08:58:25 PM) inode0: (2) dthomasdigital get the bigger quotes and we'll arrange to go as big as we can, and get art approval final (08:59:05 PM) inode0: (3) inode0 will contact davdunc about tattoos and see if we can up that to 10K and discuss transparency issues (08:59:10 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: on time? Was that for me? (08:59:21 PM) ke4qqq: no for inode0 lcafiero lcamero (08:59:39 PM) inode0: Moving on from the general budget now to lcafiero's new request lcafiero lcamero (08:59:45 PM) inode0: lcafiero: go ahead (08:59:52 PM) lcafiero: the new request, and I'll be really quick. (09:01:07 PM) lcafiero: A while back, there was discussion whether $750 was enough for LFNW, and quaid and i crunched some numbers for what is now two events -- a talk by quaid and me at Oregon State and LFNW -- and we may go a little over the $750 budget. (09:01:10 PM) lcafiero: Or we may not. (09:02:02 PM) lcafiero: So what I wanted to ask that since the possibility of needing more than $750 was addressed awhile back, if I could have $1,000 allotted instead, with the proviso that any unspent monies will be returned. (09:02:26 PM) inode0: unspent monies aren't leaving :) (09:02:58 PM) lcafiero: True that, inode0 -- what I mean is that we spend $700, there's $50 for the quarter that's available for something else. (09:03:38 PM) lcafiero: I understand from quaid that the number $750 is etched in stone and if we go to $751 or higher, anything over that won't be reimbursed. (09:04:17 PM) ke4qqq: can we see you numbers that you've crunted? (09:04:31 PM) ke4qqq: we have stone etching tool? (09:04:43 PM) lcafiero: I kind of wish quaid was here because we had a worksheet but I can't remember where it is. Let me look (09:04:46 PM) ke4qqq: crunched (09:05:51 PM) lcafiero: right. Looking now, but there was a range of $560 and $820, I think. (09:06:15 PM) lcafiero: Because I undershot on the budgeting, I would have thrown in the $70 on my own. (09:06:30 PM) lcafiero: $750 + 70 = $820 (09:07:48 PM) lcafiero: Rats. I can't find it. (09:08:02 PM) inode0: are there any non-travel expenses here? (09:08:16 PM) lcafiero: quaid, white courtesy phone (09:08:42 PM) inode0: who owns LFNW? (09:08:46 PM) lcafiero: no, there isn't. (09:08:47 PM) lcafiero: me (09:08:55 PM) lcafiero: I own LFNW. (09:08:59 PM) inode0: ok (09:09:18 PM) lcafiero: But it speaks also to the issue of people closer to an event owning it, but I won't bring that up now. (09:10:40 PM) lcafiero: in any case, I was hoping for a buffer, should I go over $750. (09:10:45 PM) ke4qqq: lcafiero: I don't have problem with more money - but I want us to be transparent - can you put your projected costs up on the wiki? (09:10:56 PM) ke4qqq: doesn't have to be now (09:11:07 PM) lcafiero: Quaid and I had made up a worksheet that for some reason I can't find. (09:11:30 PM) lcafiero: Transparency is good, but I can't provide that (see above) (09:11:38 PM) lcafiero: so I'll just withdraw the request. (09:11:44 PM) ke4qqq: can you do it in the next week (09:11:49 PM) ke4qqq: within the next week (09:11:57 PM) lcafiero: I can probably do it tomorrow morning before we leave. (09:12:04 PM) ke4qqq: or even after the fact (09:12:06 PM) ke4qqq: is fine (09:12:17 PM) inode0: lcafiero: yeah, even after the fact (09:12:42 PM) ke4qqq: there are several reasons - one it helps us plan next year, and two it makes us more transparent (09:12:52 PM) lcafiero: Right. (09:12:57 PM) ke4qqq: seeing that we spent 1700 dollars on OLF last year doesn't tell us anything really (09:13:00 PM) lcafiero: Bear in mind I'm pretty new at this. (09:13:08 PM) inode0: right now we don't even understand what money is being spent on (09:13:10 PM) ke4qqq: knowing that we bought shirts and sponsored OLF does (09:14:00 PM) lcafiero: In LFNW case, it's almost entirely on travel expenses, as opposed to non-travel expenses (i.e., event items, etc.) (09:14:27 PM) lcafiero: So what I'll do is post it on the wiki and on the list for discussion. (09:14:30 PM) ke4qqq: so forgive me, but how many people are traveling? (09:14:33 PM) inode0: ok, consider yourself to have some coverage if you go over - no one cares about that I don't believe (09:14:42 PM) ke4qqq: no we aren't worried about that (09:14:49 PM) ke4qqq: besides our stone etching tools havne't arrived yet (09:14:56 PM) ke4qqq: so it's not big deal :) (09:15:00 PM) lcafiero: I'm actually thinking we can keep it under $750 (09:15:16 PM) ke4qqq: but I do want to learn from what we are spending - and globs don't help that (09:15:28 PM) inode0: try, it helps to be as frugal as possible, but don't worry if you go over a bit (09:15:55 PM) lcafiero: How many are traveling? There's lodging for at least 6, with some doubling up. It's on the worksheet that I can't find at the moment (09:16:04 PM) lcafiero: Then there's food, etc. (09:16:25 PM) ***inode0 steps out for a couple minutes (09:16:26 PM) ke4qqq: if 6 people can travel for 1000 bucks that's awesome! (09:17:10 PM) crossbytes: ? (09:17:15 PM) lcafiero: Kind of. I thought we could do it for less (09:17:28 PM) lcafiero: but I could have underestimated. (09:17:34 PM) lcafiero: ? to me crossbytes? (09:17:39 PM) crossbytes: yes (09:17:41 PM) lcafiero: shoot (09:17:46 PM) ke4qqq: no worries there (09:18:30 PM) crossbytes: this is going to be my first enent to attend ..so i do naot know what I should do when I get there..so will it be wise for to go? (09:18:41 PM) crossbytes: would this helkp with the expenses...? (09:19:00 PM) crossbytes: sorry about the spelling.. (09:20:21 PM) crossbytes: my expenses food/travel/hotel would come to about 85-90 round trip from Vancouver wa (09:20:37 PM) ke4qqq: crossbytes: I'd rahter pay for you to go than quaid (09:20:53 PM) inode0: we don't even pay for food for FUDcon people who are sponsored?! (09:20:56 PM) ke4qqq: you getting the experience is more important (09:21:03 PM) ke4qqq: inode0: we do for some (09:21:15 PM) inode0: Red Hat employees (09:21:50 PM) warren: where is the next fudcon? (09:21:56 PM) ke4qqq: no (09:22:01 PM) ke4qqq: for some others as well (09:22:05 PM) inode0: I don't think we know where it will be (09:22:07 PM) ke4qqq: RH employees we technically don't fund (09:22:15 PM) ke4qqq: warren: Berlin (09:22:27 PM) inode0: they get per diem, others don't unless there are special needs I don't believe (09:22:29 PM) ke4qqq: and after that Brazil (09:23:01 PM) ke4qqq: crossbytes: go, enjoy, and learn. Come back more effective (09:23:08 PM) ke4qqq: don't worry about costs (09:23:14 PM) ke4qqq: (within reason) (09:23:22 PM) inode0: who are the 6 people getting lodging? (09:25:07 PM) inode0: is there a room crossbytes could split with someone? (09:27:02 PM) ke4qqq: inode0: iirc all are sharing a room (09:27:09 PM) inode0: all who? (09:27:14 PM) ke4qqq: all 6 (09:27:19 PM) crossbytes: the 85-90 includes room gas and food/ my wife is attending also... must come to aid in driving just had problems with my sciatica nerve (09:27:23 PM) ke4qqq: who the 6 composed are I don't know (09:28:18 PM) crossbytes: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxFest_Northwest_%28LFNW%29_2009 for who is attending (09:29:01 PM) inode0: I don't know that who is attending and who is getting a room funded by FAmNA is the same list though, that is what I was asking. (09:29:06 PM) lcafiero: sorry (09:29:59 PM) lcafiero: hello? (09:30:06 PM) inode0: we are all still here lcafiero davdunc davej (09:30:44 PM) lcafiero: I was worried about whether I was still here. (09:30:55 PM) inode0: davdunc: are you still here because I'm ready to move back to you rather than make you wait all night? (09:31:08 PM) davdunc: inode0: present. (09:31:19 PM) davdunc: thank you, but I made you wait. (09:31:24 PM) inode0: Let's digress to move back to tattoos briefly to get an update davdunc davej (09:31:41 PM) inode0: davdunc: fill us in on what you know (09:32:11 PM) davdunc: thanks. Artwork is my problem. I have been having a bit of difficulty getting someone to return the logo to me. (09:33:07 PM) ke4qqq: davdunc: what logo do you need? (09:33:14 PM) davdunc: Aztec (formerly Wolf's) Graphics has offered me a discounted quote. (09:33:23 PM) davdunc: Need the symbol. (09:33:53 PM) inode0: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/pngSzYYTMEBc9.png (09:34:01 PM) inode0: is it still this one to be modified? (09:35:23 PM) davdunc: that was sort of icing. I wanted to get the symbol from the logo for the 1.5in square tattoo. (09:35:44 PM) davdunc: that is 1.5inx2in. (09:35:47 PM) inode0: so the standard infinity talk bubbly? (09:35:53 PM) inode0: bubble (09:35:53 PM) davdunc: yea. (09:36:04 PM) inode0: that should be easy (09:36:43 PM) davdunc: I thought so. I talked to Nicu and asked for the Logo, he said to request it from logo@fedor... and that has been a three week ordeal. (09:37:18 PM) ke4qqq: davdunc: send me an email (09:37:22 PM) ke4qqq: regarding that (09:38:05 PM) davdunc: now I know that I have not been very pushy when it come this, but I am not sure where I am overstepping my bounds. I mean, I am a newb when it comes to projects in this group. (09:38:08 PM) davdunc: will do. (09:38:21 PM) davdunc: ke4qqq: I will send you an email. thanks. (09:38:33 PM) inode0: can you fill us in on prices and quanitities? (09:39:58 PM) davdunc: the quotes are rough. I haven't given anyone artwork yet, only given them what I have without approval. (09:40:20 PM) davdunc: so roughly $220 for 5,000 tattoos. (09:41:20 PM) inode0: right, rough is good, no quote for 10K yet? (09:41:36 PM) ***inode0 thinks we might want to go 10K (09:42:01 PM) inode0: we had an earlier discussion about the empowered by design (09:42:08 PM) ***leitz has a long drive tomorrow--see you all later. (09:42:36 PM) inode0: everyone liked it but the white or the transparency if that were transparent seemed not so popular (09:43:39 PM) inode0: I think the standard logo might be better? What do others think? (09:44:34 PM) lcafiero: just the logo for a tattoo? (09:44:40 PM) ninjazjb_: night guys (09:44:47 PM) ke4qqq: I like the logo myself (09:44:56 PM) lcafiero: same here (09:44:58 PM) ke4qqq: but I am not really the tat wearing kind (09:45:04 PM) lcafiero: with the f in white, right? (09:45:10 PM) lcafiero: not transparent (09:46:19 PM) ***inode0 thinks he prefers a regular talk bubble in the normal colors (09:46:25 PM) lcafiero: agreed (09:48:04 PM) inode0: ok, I'll ask davdunc then to proceed with getting quotes for 5k and 10k with the standard logo and we'll get it done (09:48:24 PM) davdunc: o.k. (09:48:47 PM) davdunc: I have the logo now. I can move forward with the purchase tomorrow. (09:49:16 PM) davdunc: sorry. the quotes. (09:49:25 PM) ke4qqq: davdunc: it's ok, be bold! (09:49:32 PM) ke4qqq: assume we are going to reimburse you :) (09:50:20 PM) ***lcafiero has to get going, to get ready to travel tomorrow morning. (09:50:24 PM) davdunc: thanks. ke4qqq (09:50:26 PM) inode0: yeah, if it is under $500 for 10k I'd say just order when you are ready (09:50:55 PM) davdunc: O.k. (09:50:57 PM) lcafiero: +1 on tattoos, and I'll even wear one (09:51:33 PM) inode0: ok, open floor until the top of the hour if anyone has anything more? (09:51:37 PM) davdunc: awesome! will follow thorugh with purchase provided the price is right, tomorrow morning. (09:54:13 PM) inode0: hearing nothing shall we wrap? (09:54:36 PM) davdunc: I have what I need. (09:54:36 PM) inode0: hearing nothing inode0 wraps (09:54:41 PM) inode0: 5 (09:54:42 PM) inode0: 4 (09:54:43 PM) inode0: 3 (09:54:45 PM) inode0: 2 (09:54:46 PM) inode0: 1 (09:54:51 PM) inode0: thanks everyone (09:54:54 PM) inode0: EOM

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FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-04-21
by inode0 22 Apr '09

22 Apr '09

* Announcements - LFNW is this weekend - Larry the Fedora Guy blogging starts tomorrow! - DemonJester attended Barcamp Rochester this past Sat. with Karlie and event report will be posted tomorrow - dthomasdigital gave a presentation April 16, 2009 Las Cruces, NM - Southwest Regional Technology Symposium * Events [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents] - No other reports * Budget Review [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget] - dthomasdigital gave us an update on Fedora branded case badges. Some details regarding artwork still need to be resolved and pricing for larger quantities is desired since we cross the pain point at 500 and then per piece cost is quite small. Update to follow when final details are known. - tattoos were discussed, both the "Empowered By" and standard logo designs. We are in a similar position here needing to finalize artwork and get a quote on larger volume. We hope to resolve these issues quickly. - Discussion of pens seemed controversial. Enough dissention that we tabled pens for the time being to focus on things we all agree on. - herlo updated us about banners, this is getting close to complete. Details about when we can purchase and whether we'll spread it across multiple quarters to follow soon. - LFNW funding discussed. Flexibility given to event owner if they can't quite meet the budget. Some concerns raised about our process in this regard and we'll work on developing a more clear and transparent event budget process in the future. * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] - No report * Open Floor - No discussion items I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight.

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FAmNA meeting tonight
by Larry Cafiero 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

Hi, all -- I've placed an item on the agenda tonight to ask for additional funds ($250, to make it an even $1,000) for the Oregon State University/LinuxFest Northwest event. The reason for the additional funds is to accommodate additional lodging expenses brought about by the side trip to speak at Oregon State on the way to LFNW. I bring this up because I may be late for the meeting tonight -- hence, I would appreciate if this could be a later item in the meeting and, in my absence (if it comes up before I can get on the channel) Karsten Wade can answer questions around this. See you all tonight. Larry Cafiero

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Mumbai, India Engg. Colleges interested in Fedora
by Debjit Saha 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

> Hope fully this development will bring us closer to our common goal J. Hey Ankit, I will be in Mumbai during your aforementioned period and would love to help you guys out with your Lab setups and the Training programs. Cheers, Debjit Fedora India Ambassador https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dkd903 -- Sent from Delhi, DL, India

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Done the work ; Re Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 44, Issue 10]
by Aveek Sen 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

Hi! Ambassadors, > So, the work is: > Can you please create a wiki page which will describe the mailing > list etiquettes for Fedora? We want to make this a reference for > future. This may not much different from the LUG guidelines. But > please don't copy blindly. I have completed the task. Please go through the Fedora wiki page and send me the feedback. i will improvise on it after that. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MailinglistGuidelines Sorry for being late. Ahd my examinations, as I earlier mentioned. The internet access here is limited. > Thanks. > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. Thanks, Aveek.

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Fwd: COMO PUEDO COLABORAR
by bm90fox 21 Apr '09

21 Apr '09

---------- Mensaje reenviado ---------- De: MANNY HIDALBEMA <bm90fox(a)gmail.com> Fecha: 20 de abril de 2009 19:34 Asunto: COMO PUEDO COLABORAR Para: flisol-colombia(a)listas.installfest.info Respetados señores: Hasta hace muy poco he entendido la invitacion al Flisol Colombia en Bogota. Soy Embajador para Colombia de Fedora Proyect, y aunque soy nuevo en el Mundo Linux y el software libre, me gustaria saber en que puedo colaborar con ustedes. Si aun hay tiempo, me pueden llamar al 3144926540. Resido fuera de Bogota pero planeo estar alli el sábado, o si hace falta desde el viernes. Por favor contacteme. Manuel E. Hidalgo bm90fox(a)fedoraproyect.org https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:*Bm90fox*

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:dreamer from the Netherlands https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jasonbrown17 from the USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nthomas from Australia Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Release Events meeting proposal
by Francesco Ugolini 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

I want to organize a meeting with whoever want to organize/take part to F11 Release Events. This meeting will be focused on give some informations to people who want to organize one for the first time and to people that have just hold one and want to ask for something/suggest improvements. Tell me the date and the time you prefer. >From my side: I can be on IRC from 17.00 UTC to 20.00 UTC. Regards Francesco

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Call for participation: LinuxTag 2009 and FudCon Berlin 2009
by Thomas Woerner 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

Hello Fedora Ambassadors, if you want to be part of the Fedora booth team at LinuxTag and also the FUDCon team, you can register in the LinuxTag 2009 booth personnel list located here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2009 LinuxTag 2009: * Booth setup on Tuesday June 23 * Open from June 24 to 27 (Wednesday to Saturday). * Booth tear down on Saturday 27 after LinuxTag closed. FudCon Berlin 2009: * Open from June 26 to 28 (Friday to Sunday). The facts in short: * At the end of April 10 to 15 people are selected from the list. * Booth work: 5 slots of booth work per person (10 hours all together). There are 4 slots per day with 2 hours per slot, first starting at 10am. * FUDCon work: tasks will be assigned as needed. Hope to see you all soon, Thomas ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hallo Fedora Ambassadors, wenn ihr ein Teil des Fedora-Stand-Teams auf dem LinuxTag und auch Teil des FUDCon-Teams sein wollt, dann könnt Ihr euch in die "LinuxTag 2009 booth personnel"-Liste eintragen: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2009 LinuxTag 2009: * Standaufbau am Dienstag 23. Juni. * Geöffnet vom 24. bis 27. Juni (Mittwoch bis Freitag). * Standabbau am Samstag 27. Juni nach Ende des LinuxTag FudCon Berlin 2009: * Geöffnet vom 26. bis 28. Juni (Freitag bis Sonntag). Die Fakten in aller Kürze: * Ende April werden 10 bis 15 Helfer aus der Liste ausgewählt. * Standarbeit: 5 Zeitabschnitte pro Person (insgesamt 10 Stunden). Pro Tag gibt es 4 Zeitabschnitte mit jeweils 2 Stunden, die erste startet um 10:00. * FUDCon: Arbeit wird nach Bedarf zugewiesen. In der Hoffnung euch alle bald zu sehen, Thomas

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 20 Apr '09

20 Apr '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Taljurf from Saudi Arabia https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lmvaz from Brazil https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Filiperosset from Brazil https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Joseroberto from Brazil https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Abhradipm from India Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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REMINDER French Meeting today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 19 Apr '09

19 Apr '09

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-04-19 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (19 avr.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Merci de répondre à ce message en cas d'indisponibilité. Thomas Canniot

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2009-04-16 FAMSCO Meeting Summary
by Thomas Canniot 18 Apr '09

18 Apr '09

Hello and welcome to this nineth FAMSCO weekly meeting summary. The latest meeting was hold on April 16th 2009 on #fedora-ambassadors Attendees: Francesco Fugolini Max Spevack Joerg Simona Susmit Shannigrahi Mathieu Bridon Regreted attendees: Rodrigo Padula David Nalley Meeting agenda : 1) What FAmSCo can do for your region? 2) What kind of FAmSCo do you want? 1. Open Issues Francesco started by asking people what they want from think about FAmSCo. However, there were few people attending the meeting. Max then asked Thomas about the past Solution Linux event and the wishes of the French community for next Solution Linux. Thomas answered that FAmSCo respond in an appropriate manner to our requests as the French community was able to achieve all the dreams is has for the event. The only wishes they have is about the relationship with Red Hat France that could be improved. As the first contacts between the French community and RH happened few weeks before Solution Linux, it seems understandable according to Thomas that this year was not THE year. 2) What kind of FAmSCo do you want? Francesco then asked the attendance what they think about the proposal of NA ambassadors about the future of FAmSCo, i.e. a FAmSCo composed of one person for each big community (NA, LATAM, EMEA, APAC). The attendance either agreed or did not answered the proposal. The issue is going to be discussed widely then. Francesco asked about the Budget to Max. Max confessed having troubles with budget for NA because of the difficulties to have meeting with them. Francesco adjourned the meeting.

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belux ambassadors meeting log 15th April 2009
by Vincent Van der Kussen 17 Apr '09

17 Apr '09

belux ambassadors meeting log 15th April 2009

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Re: Yet another website? (Re: [Ambassadors] belux ambassadors meeting log 15th April 2009)
by Jeroen van Meeuwen 17 Apr '09

17 Apr '09

On 04/17/2009 01:51 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Robert Scheck wrote: > >> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Christoph Wickert wrote: >>> Let's face it: ATM the changes have caused confusion and discomfort in >>> the Fedora community. For example fedora.de has been taken offline >>> because of discrepancies between the trademark holder and the domain >>> owner. Robert as the domain owner is a well known and valuable >>> contributor of the project and all AFAIK all he did was redirecting to >>> fedoraproject.org. >> I'm really pissed, but still hope that Paul comes up with something soon. >> > > I'm not familiar with the text of the contract but I wanted to mention > something to those who might idly be following this thread to note that > Red Hat, as owners of the Fedora name, has to protect it everywhere it > knows about it. My understanding is if we don't protect it in one case, > we lose the protection everywhere. So even though the text of the > contract might be over zealous[1], the contract has to exist in some form. > As long as both sides stick to it, I'm sure a good middle ground will be > found. > And I think you're completely right. Like I said, the intention is to work with us, so that we are protected (e.g. Red Hat is able to protect us, the legitimate users of the Trademark). If this first attempt fails in doing so, in our opinion, we can express concerns and make suggestions and have the document improved. This should be our goal, as a collective, to achieve a goal we pursue (a protected Trademark with enforceable policies with all the freedoms legitimate use requires). -Jeroen

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 16 Apr '09

16 Apr '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Venom007 from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Estebansaavedra from Bolivia https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Wellashow from Egypt https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Casep from Chile https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dougsland from Porto Alegre, Brazil Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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FAmSCo EMEA regional meeting 2nd reminder - Thursday 16th 18.00 UTC
by Francesco Ugolini 15 Apr '09

15 Apr '09

This reminder follows the first one sent two days ago: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Following the first regional meeting, hold with NA Ambassadors, FAmSCo is going to have a second round of its regional meeting with EMEA Ambassadors on Thursday 16th at 18.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting. We will discuss with the most active contributors from Europe, Middle East and Africa about what they need and how to improve their experience. During the previous meeting with NA contributors (take a look at the previous emails in the list), we have discussed about (mainly): 1) What FAmSCo can do for your region? 2) What kind of FAmSCo do you want? Many suggestions were collected: those ones underlined the importance of this initiative towards a better approach with the community. I invite all the interested to suggest topics, in order to have an agenda and better address all the issues. Best regards Francesco Ugolini

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A work for You [Was: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 44, Issue 10]
by susmit shannigrahi 15 Apr '09

15 Apr '09

Hi Aveek, Before you post anything else, or we talk about your suggestions, I would like to give you a work. Let's see if you can complete that. If you google with "mailing list etiquettes", you will find that every mailing list has it's own guidelines for mailing lists. (Like not to reply digests when replying.) Unfortunately, we have none on our wiki. So, the work is: Can you please create a wiki page which will describe the mailing list etiquettes for Fedora? We want to make this a reference for future. This may not much different from the LUG guidelines. But please don't copy blindly. PS: I was going to give you a link to Shakthi's pdf, but considering it will lessen the amount of research done by you, I shall refrain from that. ;) Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

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Re: Fedora 11 talking points
by Debjit Saha 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

In the link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points given by Max, there is a mention for Moksha which is a web based platform to create widgetised web apps. So how is a switch to Fedora 11 going to help users with Moksha? Please throw some light on this aspect. cheers, Debjit Fedora India Ambassador, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dkd903

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Fedora 11 talking points
by Max Spevack 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points For those of you who are doing events, it's very likely that you'll be getting questions about Fedora 11. This page is an excellent place to get a high-quality overview of some of the main things in the release. Please give it a read, and familiarize yourselves with its contents. Thanks! --Max

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HELP needed
by hagr182 14 Apr '09

14 Apr '09

Well Ive havent got any Fedora related emails for quite some time now, I think it is because I have been inactive for the last 2 months, tough I wasnt (Switched my major and recently got home from religious/humanitarian missions). So I kindly request to be "activated again" as now I will be back on track helping the project. Also next week im giving a class on guess what?? Well the IT deparment wants me to give a class about how to install linux and teach my fellow students how to use any distribution I like, so I chose Fedora, the presentation is due on next saturday, any advice on what I should focus the class on?? Thanks, Hector. P.D: Its good to be back working with such a great community

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 13 Apr '09

13 Apr '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:willynx from Asunción, PARAGUAY https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ajaykalla83 from India Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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F11 Release Events
by Francesco Ugolini 13 Apr '09

13 Apr '09

Hi, once again I'm here talking about Release Events. - Why are they so important? Simply, they introduce, in a human-friendly way, Fedora to the world. They give the possibility to have a first look of what was done in the previous 6 months and have people ready to give community the first support for installation and explanation of all/most of the features. - What can we do? Like the past releases, we have to create something really special to cheer the new release: a worldwide initiative, marked for its distinctive signs, that mix both the knowledge and party sides. - Can I hold a Release Event? What I have to do? Sure. Just add your event in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents. According to the release schedule, we encourage to have such events in the first 2/3 weeks after the release (May 26th, to stay sure, add a week). During the next weeks I'll let you know about the other aspects connected with this initiative (swags, meetings etc.). My regards and the best wishes Francesco Ugolini

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Re: Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 44, Issue 10
by Aveek Sen 13 Apr '09

13 Apr '09

> Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:51:08 +0200 > From: Francesco Ugolini <francesco(a)ephisia.org> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Proper marketing > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Message-ID: > <be9936b90904120351l12650547qa670ca2282597f05(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Aveek Sen <aveeksen(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> Hi !, >> > I invite you to suggests initiatives, so that it could be possible to > direct support them. There are a few suggestions: 1. Contacting national dailies like Times of India, Telegraph, The Hindu, etc. & giving out press releases & information on GNU/Linux. 2.Mass marketing the regional language support for small businesses & home use like Microsoft does. Giving out advertisements is a must. 3.Having tutorial DVD distributions for budding coders & bug trackers on the lines of the Sun starter packs. Thanks, Aveek

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Tapping in touch pads
by Satyajit Ranjeev 13 Apr '09

13 Apr '09

Hi all, I'm not very sure to which list I must post this to but I do hope some one in this list can help me. I was testing fedora 11 beta and they have disabled the tap option in the touchpad of my laptop. This was a major concern in fedora 9 and many of the users were annoyed and some even turned away from fedora. In 10 it was enabled by default, but 11 it is disabled. The wiki says if the touchpad has physical buttons the tapping is disabled. Dont you think it should be up to the user to decide this. Im not sure where to voice this opinion. Thanks, Satyajit Ranjeev

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ambassador kits?
by Marspet ** 13 Apr '09

13 Apr '09

hello, I read in the wiki about ambassador kits... where do we get those?

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NA Media Production for F11
by David Nalley 13 Apr '09

13 Apr '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am copying John Poelstra as this is perhaps something that should be added to the schedule. We are about 6 weeks away from F11 release. From what I recall from F10, artwork delay was a big factor in the delay of media and we had set some timelines on when we needed to get the artwork taken care of, to the printer, etc. So lets start that discussion here. Clint: Since you are also the liaison with Art, is the media and sleeve artwork ready. If not what's the date it will be? Is there anything the rest of us can do to push all of this along? Thanks Sorry for tying up the global list with a regional discussion. David Nalley -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkniUf0ACgkQkZOYj+cNI1eywQCdF/W76GMw2OWmmc4usmCKxtnQ 2IsAn0s72KCdGytNk6i9DS17dcL3Gmz3 =bd1q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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F10 Media for NA available
by inode0 12 Apr '09

12 Apr '09

I'd like to encourage NA ambassadors to help us distribute remaining F10 media at any events you can attend. I currently have approximately 175 pieces of 32-bit Live media and 32-bit DVD and approximately 240 pieces of 64-bit media on hand available for your use. So if you have any events coming up, local LUG meetings, events or clubs at schools, etc., please do request some media from FAmNA and help us get it distributed by submitting your request here: https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/ Thanks, John

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FAmSCo EMEA regional meeting reminder - Thursday 16th 18.00 UTC
by Francesco Ugolini 12 Apr '09

12 Apr '09

Following the first regional meeting, hold with NA Ambassadors, FAmSCo is going to have a second round of its regional meeting with EMEA Ambassadors on Thursday 16th at 18.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting. We will discuss with the most active contributors from Europe, Middle East and Africa about what they need and how to improve their experience. During the previous meeting with NA contributors (take a look at the previous emails in the list), we have discussed about (mainly): 1) What FAmSCo can do for your region? 2) What kind of FAmSCo do you want? Many suggestions were collected: those ones underlined the importance of this initiative towards a better approach with the community. I invite all the interested to suggest topics, in order to have an agenda and better address all the issues. Best regards Francesco Ugolini

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Proper marketing
by Aveek Sen 12 Apr '09

12 Apr '09

Hi !, I feel there are a few issues to be tackled: 1. In India, there are hardly any press releases of Fedora. In the weekly technical & computing columns of dailies, there are almost no entries mentioning Fedora. Even other distros have low exposure, except Ubuntu. 2. Linux search page of Google is not listed in its more sites.. 3.There could be some university interaction forum( like Sun's OSUM ) & certain teach yourself kit distributions like Sun does for its Sun Clubs. 4. Low marketing that vernacular support is there in Linux for free. Andhra Pradesh in India could be a huge market. Thanks, Aveek, NIT Agartala.

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REMINDER French Meeting today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 12 Apr '09

12 Apr '09

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-04-12 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (12 avr.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Merci de répondre à ce message en cas d'indisponibilité. Thomas Canniot

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 12 Apr '09

12 Apr '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jayanth from India http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:willynx from Asunción, PARAGUAY Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Interactive Fedora session @ NIT Durgaour Report[X Post][Cross Post]
by Rangeen Basu 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Hi Here is the report of the Interactive Fedora Know How session held on 9th April at NIT Durgapur: http://sherry151.blogspot.com/2009/04/yesterday-9th-april-interactive-sessi… Here are the photos: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/sherry151/InteractiveFedoraKnowHowSession# Regards -- Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151(a)gmail.com Sent from WB, India

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Japan Linux Foundation October 21 - 23, 2009 - Tokyo, Japan
by Karsten Wade 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Is there anyone closer than me :) who might want to talk for/about Fedora and community building at the Japan Linux Symposium on 21 to 23 October? http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/japan-linux-symposium This is colocated with a Linux kernel summit. I'm honored to have been personally invited by Shibata-san. I assured him I would try first to find someone closer who (preferably) speaks Japanese! I would like to help or mentor anyone who is interested in this opportunity. We can help you create/translate a good presentation and be prepared to represent Fedora. If multiple people are interested, we should find a way to make that work. - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41

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Fun article I found today, thought I would share.
by Adam Miller 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

In case anyone didn't see it: http://www.pcplus.co.uk/node/3020 -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments

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Belux Meeting Reminder 2009-04-15 / 17:00 - 18:00 UTC
by Frederic Hornain 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

This mail is a note for next meeting for Fedora Belux and _every_ interested people. 2009-04-15 / 17:00 - 18:00 UTC 2009-04-15 / 19:00 - 20:00 CEST -> /!\ Belgium TIME IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est une invitation pour la réunion Fedora Belux, qui aura lieu ce mercredi (15 Avril.) à 19 heure de Bxl sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . Best Regards Frederic ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open(a)laptop.org

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UPDATE: FAmSCo meeting reminder - Thursday 9th - NOW
by Francesco Ugolini 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Francesco Ugolini <fugolini(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Next FAmSCo weekly meeting will be on Thursday 9th at 18.00 UTC in > #fedora-meeting. > > Meeting agenda: > > 1. Revive FreeMedia project: initiatives and support > 2. Budget: status. > 3. FAmSCo Regional meeting: NA feedbacks discussion > 4. t.b.d. > > Tell me if you could be able to attend, thanks. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > Sorry the meeting it's now. Regards Francesco Ugolini

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Free Media Distribution
by Hisham Abdel-Magid 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Dear all, I'm a civil engineer currently in Doha, Qatar .. while promoting for fedora i usually face a direct request for Fedora Live CDs from my colleagues .. Currently, i'm handling it by burning CDs/DVDs on my own laptop, and i print the Sleve cover using a coloured printer on normal A4 paper and then crop it where necessary ... To be frank with you, i am not happy with the end result when it comes to the CD it self (bcuz it still says "Sony CD-R" ^_^) ... anyhow, that's the limit of my humble budget for now ... and I did not join the FreeMadia Programme bcuz of this "poor" end-result ... Therefore, I would be much obliged if someone advise my about where/whom to contact for requesting Fedora Live CDs in order to distribute them here in Qatar... or at least how can i get some decent-looking FedoraCD's Physical Art?.. Thanks in advance ~hish -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eng. Hisham Isam M. Abdel-Magid Civil & Infrastructures Engineer Dar Al-Handasah Consultants (Shair and Partners) P.O.Box: 40358 Mobile: +974 5042547 - +974 5543080 E.mail: hisham.abdelmagid(a)dargroup.com Websites: www.dargroup.com - www.thepearlqatar.com Fedora Ambassador in Sudan and Qatar, E.mail: himam(a)fedoraproject.org wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Himam

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankit1999 from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Wmorri from the USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jayanth from India Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Howto participate for Fedora 11 testing
by ElectroMech 09 Apr '09

09 Apr '09

Dear All, We are a team of mostly networking skillsets. We would like to participate regularly Fedora new version test. We have some good participation. http://groups.google.com/group/VGLUG/about http://www.vglug.info/ Please let me know how we can participate. -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info

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GSOC guidelines at the ilugc
by magesh 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

hi friends, this weekend the chennai LUG has planned for a small talk about the topic "Google Summer of Codes" so, is there anything to be shared from the fedora project side. If possible send me the links of information about the fedora gsoc thankyou -- magesh Life is "just tryin out things to see if they work" http://magesh.geexhq.com/ http://twitter.com/mageshcse

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FAmSCo (North America) Regional Meeting Reminder - 02/04/2009 20.00
by Francesco Ugolini 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

The first FAmSCo Regional Meeting will be on Thursday 26th at 18.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting. This time, as scheduled, we are going to discuss about North America (NA). Meeting agenda (suggestions are welcomed): 1. How budget is spent?/ Are money enough? 2. Future events review: can FAmSCo give something to help you? 3. Are current global policies fitting your real necessities? 4. t.b.d. Those are only suggestions, if you think something is missing please let us know. Regards Francesco Ugolini

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FAmSCo meeting reminder - Thursday 9th 20.00 UTC
by Francesco Ugolini 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Next FAmSCo weekly meeting will be on Thursday 9th at 18.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting. Meeting agenda: 1. Revive FreeMedia project: initiatives and support 2. Budget: status. 3. FAmSCo Regional meeting: NA feedbacks discussion 4. t.b.d. Tell me if you could be able to attend, thanks. Regards Francesco Ugolini

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Speakers needed for Community Learning Programs at Birla Institute of Technology
by Debjit Saha 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Hey All! Birla Institute of Technology (www.bitmesra.ac.in) is a premier engineering college located in Mesra which is around 25 Kms from Ranchi - The state capital of Jharkhand (Formerly a part of Bihar). We organize a year round event consisting of Lectures and Workshops under the banner of Community Learning Programs. The audience for these workshops and lectures include students, teachers and IT proffessionals from Ranchi area. This year we are planning to hold better lectures and workshops especially in the field of Linux administration, Networking and Virtualization. We already have had a good number of workshops on Linux with the help of the student community of our college but it would be better to have them conducted by experts :-).For this purpose we need good and knowledgeable speakers who can come to the campus of Birla Institute of Technology and give talks and conduct workshops. The travelling costs of the visiting speakers (from India) will be covered by us and will be provided with standard boarding and lodging facilities in the Campus Guest house. cheers, Debjit Fedora India Ambassador https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dkd903 email: dkd903(a)gmail.com phone: +919204482409

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sunildatta from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jatin from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Eduardoquiroz from Chile https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jramirez from Spain Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Fedora for Linux Newbies
by Frank Murphy 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

I have occasionally seen it said, that Fedora should not be installed for people, who have never come across Linux before. I believe this to be an urban myth. I have recently @Feb-March installed it to a laptop, for someone who was exactly that, never heard of Linux. He had a proprietry version of 2000 installed, which was refusing to boot. I suggested Fedora 10 to him, showed him my Laptop. He was sold, has only called me once since. How to copy photos over. He is now telling his local pub friends, of Fedora Linux. If you don't try, you will never know. Just thought I'd share. Frank

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NA T-Shirts Special
by Kam Salisbury 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

The following special is through a shirt supplier close to me. T-SHIRT SPECIAL: 72 WHITE T'S WITH A ONE COLOR ONE LOCATION IMPRINT FOR $2.85ea. CONTACT US THROUGH THE INTERNET AND WE WILL WAIVE THE ART FEES. For North America (NA) I could grab this special with a yuet to be agreed upon Fedora artwork and then ship X out to each of the NA ambassadors. With tax its $217.52 US. Thoughts? -- Kam Salisbury http://kamsalisbury.com GPG key: FAF1751E

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Re: [Ambassadors] Free Media Distribution
by David Anderson 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

>As I understand it Fedora media distribution has really three sources. > >(1) The FreeMedia Program: >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia > >This is designed to help Fedora contributors get Fedora into the hands >of people who have either economic or network hardships that make it >difficult for them to acquire media for themselves directly. Pretty >packaging of the media isn't an objective, although each contributor >can handle that however they choose. If volume is a problem in your >area the best solution is to recruit more contributors to the program >to ease the burden on each contributor and to get as many requests for >media satisfied as possible. > >(2) The Sponsored Media Program: >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/SponsoredMedia > >This program gives one the opportunity to fund free Fedora media >produced by a vendor to distribute through the Free Media Program. > >(3) Pressed Event Media: This is normally intended to be very high >quality in terms of production value and is funded normally by the >Fedora Project for use by Fedora contributors at events where they are >representing/promoting Fedora. So if you are attending events where >you are handing out Fedora media you can request a supply of these >through whatever process exists in your region. > >Periodically the question comes up as to why we don't use this same >media and packaging for the Free Media Program? Some people think we >should, at one time I thought that way myself. There are a couple of >things to think about here. The Free Media Program is a way for >individual contributors to help others acquire Fedora. Part of this >contribution is providing the media itself, the postage required, and >the time to transfer the bits to the media. This is a very personal >way to contribute and in a way that makes this a special program to me >now. When you contribute some code to a package you generally don't >know who you are helping. When you spend a few minutes preparing Free >Media for Bob in Topeka, you know exactly who you are helping. > >It is pretty much logistically impossible to produce fancy pressed >media and distribute it in small amounts to hundreds of people around >the world so they can use it for the Free Media Program. This would be >very expensive for the project. > >To everyone who recently burned a few CDs or DVDs that they could >spare, wrote Fedora 10 on them with a Sharpie, and mailed them off to >someone they have never met through the Free Media Program please do >not feel uncomfortable with the "production value" of the media you >shared with others. All contributions to this program are acts of >generosity and kindness to others and I think it is one of the very >best examples of why the Fedora community is so great to be a small >part of. > >John > >-- ALL excellent points, especially last paragraph. The only way I've been able to keep media looking static across the board was doing one of two ways. (#1) Making sure your burner is lightscribe capable and buying optical media (CD-R/DVD-R) to match. (Those are the ones that look the same on both sides making it a PIA when burning if not paying attention when taking out of canister). (#2) Buying a kit that comes w/ 8 1/2 x 11 (US meas) stickers where part is perferated representing the CD and also containing a round platter dealie with a push center to afix label evenly on media. It works great (label goes right into tray) in laser printers and allows you to purchase whatever media is on sale... The only one that does not work from a price point is the media where top portion is already white, may work if you have good handwriting (steady hand) and non-smear marker but mainly requires special Epson printer w/ feed tray that CD fits in. Other than that, it really is inconsequential because John summed it all up perfectly... -david.

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APAC ambassadors meeting. 12th April, 2009, 0300 UTC.
by susmit shannigrahi 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

Hi, We shall be having APAC ambassadors meeting on 12th April, 0300 UTC. Please check your time here[1]. The agenda is here[2], please feel free to update. Thanks. [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=04&day… [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-04-12 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

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Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora for Linux Newbies
by Gaurav Prabhu 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

Hello, Feels good to hear that, Fedora is turning into a user friendly distro. Thanks for sharing. Regards, Gaurav Prabhu ______________________________ Website : http://www.gauravlive.com --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) <frankly3d(a)gmail.com> wrote: >I have occasionally seen it said, >that Fedora should not be installed for >people, who have never come across Linux before. >I believe this to be an urban myth. >I have recently @Feb-March installed it to a laptop, >for someone who was exactly that, never heard of Linux. >He had a proprietry version of 2000 installed, >which was refusing to boot. >I suggested Fedora 10 to him, showed him my Laptop. >He was sold, has only called me once since. >How to copy photos over. >He is now telling his local pub friends, of Fedora Linux. >If you don't try, you will never know. >Just thought I'd share. Frank -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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comments invited.
by sunil datta 06 Apr '09

06 Apr '09

Hi to all, The fedora project is running for such a long period but I don't understand why nobody figured out that free media program need some updates / corrections. I would suggest the following : 1) The free media group member should be given the facility to select the locations which he/she can serve, with at least one mandatory location, which will be the location where he/she is residing. 2) There should be an automated system which will send the details of the person requesting for free media to the free media provider, if the free media provider and the person requesting for free media are located in the same state or if the requester comes under the location opted by the member. I don't think everyone will be able to spend time in searching for the person belonging to their state or comes under the location opted by them. 3) If the free media group member is inactive for two months or if he is not processing the request of his location, a reminder should be send to him, and if the free media group member still does not respond within 1 month of reminder, his membership should be suspended. Without the above said features/options, freemedia group member is same as inactive fedora ambassador. This is what I think. comments awaited. sunil datta --- On Sun, 5/4/09, susmit shannigrahi <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: susmit shannigrahi <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Re: [Fedora Freemedia] #1200: Jaydeep Prasad from INDIA wants a i386 DVD. > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Date: Sunday, 5 April, 2009, 9:57 AM > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:41 AM, sunil > datta <sunil_prog(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I will suggest that freemedia tickets forwarded to > freemedia provider should be forwarded depending upon the > region where freemedia provider lives. It will be economical > and feasible. > > According to fedora's privacy policy, we can not see a > contributors > location if he/she chooses to keep it private. > You can serarch the trac[1] with your location and find our > requests near you. > Thanks. > > [1] https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/ > > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > Sent from Calcutta, WB, India > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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Re: [Ambassadors] Free Media Distribution
by sunil datta 06 Apr '09

06 Apr '09

John, you have expressed the Free Media Distribution in a very nice way. sunil datta --- On Mon, 6/4/09, inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Free Media Distribution > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 7:16 PM > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 3:06 PM, > Hisham Abdel-Magid > <himam(a)fedoraproject.org> > wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I'm a civil engineer currently in Doha, Qatar .. while > promoting for fedora > > i usually face a direct request for Fedora Live CDs > from my colleagues .. > > Currently, i'm handling it by burning CDs/DVDs on my > own laptop, and i print > > the Sleve cover using a coloured printer on normal A4 > paper and then crop it > > where necessary ... > > To be frank with you, i am not happy with the end > result when it comes to > > the CD it self (bcuz it still says "Sony CD-R" ^_^) > ... anyhow, that's the > > limit of my humble budget for now ... > > and I did not join the FreeMadia Programme bcuz of > this "poor" end-result > > Are the people who receive this free media from you > unhappy? If they > are happy and install and run Fedora as a result then I > would say the > end result is excellent. :) > > > Therefore, I would be much obliged if someone advise > my about where/whom to > > contact for requesting Fedora Live CDs in order to > distribute them here in > > Qatar.... or at least how can i get some decent-looking > FedoraCD's Physical > > Art?.. > > As I understand it Fedora media distribution has really > three sources. > > (1) The FreeMedia Program: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia > > This is designed to help Fedora contributors get Fedora > into the hands > of people who have either economic or network hardships > that make it > difficult for them to acquire media for themselves > directly. Pretty > packaging of the media isn't an objective, although each > contributor > can handle that however they choose. If volume is a problem > in your > area the best solution is to recruit more contributors to > the program > to ease the burden on each contributor and to get as many > requests for > media satisfied as possible. > > (2) The Sponsored Media Program: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/SponsoredMedia > > This program gives one the opportunity to fund free Fedora > media > produced by a vendor to distribute through the Free Media > Program. > > (3) Pressed Event Media: This is normally intended to be > very high > quality in terms of production value and is funded normally > by the > Fedora Project for use by Fedora contributors at events > where they are > representing/promoting Fedora. So if you are attending > events where > you are handing out Fedora media you can request a supply > of these > through whatever process exists in your region. > > Periodically the question comes up as to why we don't use > this same > media and packaging for the Free Media Program? Some people > think we > should, at one time I thought that way myself. There are a > couple of > things to think about here. The Free Media Program is a way > for > individual contributors to help others acquire Fedora. Part > of this > contribution is providing the media itself, the postage > required, and > the time to transfer the bits to the media. This is a very > personal > way to contribute and in a way that makes this a special > program to me > now. When you contribute some code to a package you > generally don't > know who you are helping. When you spend a few minutes > preparing Free > Media for Bob in Topeka, you know exactly who you are > helping. > > It is pretty much logistically impossible to produce fancy > pressed > media and distribute it in small amounts to hundreds of > people around > the world so they can use it for the Free Media Program. > This would be > very expensive for the project. > > To everyone who recently burned a few CDs or DVDs that they > could > spare, wrote Fedora 10 on them with a Sharpie, and mailed > them off to > someone they have never met through the Free Media Program > please do > not feel uncomfortable with the "production value" of the > media you > shared with others. All contributions to this program are > acts of > generosity and kindness to others and I think it is one of > the very > best examples of why the Fedora community is so great to be > a small > part of. > > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Go to http://in.movies.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Ambassadors] Request for Sponsorship..
by sunil datta 06 Apr '09

06 Apr '09

>Presidenrt: Mr. Kousik Dasgupta (Lecturer, Dept of CSE) > >Treasurer: Prof. Satadal Mal (HOD, Dept. of EE) > >No. of Computers expected and Details: >a) 1 (one) in Library (already installed). >b) 5 (Five) from every Department (CSE, EE, IT, ME, ECE, MCA). >c) The maintainance of computers will be done after college hours (5 >pm). >d)Each computer will have the label as "Maintained by GNU/LUG of >KGEC". My question is: If College lecturer is the President, HOD Dept fo EE can be Treasurer.. and read all above. Then I don't understand why college cannot sponsor KGEC. I didn't mean Fedora should not help KGEC, but saying > Our group is not receiving any funds for its functioning > from the > college. is not a justified, when college is itself involved with KGEC on the post of President and Treasurer. I regret, if I said something wrong, but saying fedora ......, I think is not justified. Regards, Sunil Datta --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Rohit Gupta <rohit.kgec(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: Rohit Gupta <rohit.kgec(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Ambassadors] Request for Sponsorship.. > To: fedora-india-request(a)redhat.com, fedora-india(a)redhat.com, "fedora-ambassadors-list" <fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com>, fedora-list(a)redhat.com > Cc: "sankarshan.mukhopadhyay" <sankarshan.mukhopadhyay(a)gmail.com> > Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 5:14 PM > We are forming a 'GNU/Linux User > Group of KGEC' in our college. The > Final Details can be found here: > http://groups.google.co.in/group/kgeclug/browse_thread/thread/43d14f78c94f7… > > We have a 'free media program' for the members of > 'GNU/Linux User > Group of KGEC'. > Our group is not receiving any funds for its functioning > from the > college. So, we have applied one time membership fees and > the head of > this group from college. If the group fund have less funds, > it means > less overall activity like organizing workshops. > We also have a inauguration + FOSS Event day on 18th April > 2009. It > also has a FAD ie, Fedora Workshop. > link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/KGEC_LUG > > So, we request fedora to sponsor our FAD and the 'Free > media Program' > of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'. > Things we Request: > 1) 100 Fedora 10 CDs and/or DVDs. > 2) Goodies like stikers and badges. > 3) Some Fedora fliers to be given to > participants. > > Regards: > Rohit Gupta > Fedora Ambassador, Secretary > 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' > http://groups.google.co.in/group/kgeclug > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rohit01 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 06 Apr '09

06 Apr '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aveeksen from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nemux from Mexico http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aslam from Packistan https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Richardarg from Argentina Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Request for Sponsorship..
by Rohit Gupta 06 Apr '09

06 Apr '09

We are forming a 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' in our college. The Final Details can be found here: http://groups.google.co.in/group/kgeclug/browse_thread/thread/43d14f78c94f7… We have a 'free media program' for the members of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'. Our group is not receiving any funds for its functioning from the college. So, we have applied one time membership fees and the head of this group from college. If the group fund have less funds, it means less overall activity like organizing workshops. We also have a inauguration + FOSS Event day on 18th April 2009. It also has a FAD ie, Fedora Workshop. link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/KGEC_LUG So, we request fedora to sponsor our FAD and the 'Free media Program' of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'. Things we Request: 1) 100 Fedora 10 CDs and/or DVDs. 2) Goodies like stikers and badges. 3) Some Fedora fliers to be given to participants. Regards: Rohit Gupta Fedora Ambassador, Secretary 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' http://groups.google.co.in/group/kgeclug https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rohit01

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LATAM-Meeting: Jueves/thursday 03-04
by María Leandro 06 Apr '09

06 Apr '09

Hi all / Saludos a todos, The next LATAM Ambassador Meeting will be at thursday, April 03th, 2009 [1] La próxima reunión de Embajadores LATAM será el Miércoles 03 de Abril del 2009 [1] Date/Fecha: thursday, April 03th, 2009 / Miércoles 03 de Abril del 2009 Time/Hora: 20:00 UTC Place/Lugar: freenode #fedora-meeting Remember to check UTC time Recuerden revisar sus horarios en relación al UTC usar: date --utc María "tatica" Leandro [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-04-01 -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else"

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Final Details of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'
by Rohit Gupta 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

Date of inauguration Followed by FOSS Events: 18th April, 2009 1. The 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' will be the support and development group for FOSS (Free and Open Source Software). 2. The membership of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' is open to all, even from other colleges. 3. A candidate will have to Register for membership and join the mailing list of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' to be considered as a member. Mailing List: http://groups.google.com/group/kgeclug After completing this process, the candidate will be given the membership certificate. 4. The members of the 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' can request free media (CD's and DVD's) of any available Linux Distribution to the core-committee. 5. The members of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' can post all their Linux related problems in the Mailing List and can also help with the solution of others problem. The Mailing List also has experts from the FOSS community to guide and help with the solution. 6. There will be a core-committee of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' whose members will be sound in Technical Skill. 7. The core-committee will help the Linux users (support) and will use their skills for contribution to FOSS community (Development). 8. The core-committee members will take decisions of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' and carry on FOSS Events. 9. The core-committee members will install and maintain few computers assigned to the 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' in Library and Computer Labs of KGEC. 10. The core-committee members will do their work after the college hour (since it is branch and year independent). 11. The membership of core-committee is open to all KGEC Students. 12. A candidate can get the membership of the core-committee after completing the following process: a. The candidate will have to be a member of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'. b. The candidate will have to register for membership in core-committee. c. The candidate will have to actively participate and work under the guidance of the existing core committee. d. After a month, the candidate will be considered a member of the core-committee if the existing core-committee feels that the candidate has worked for the core-committee and is possessing necessary technical skills for the post. Skills Required: i) The candidate should be able to perform installation and configure a Linux System and use it for all basic needs (music, internet, LAN, CD writing, etc) ii) The candidate should have the knowledge of partitioning and Linux file-systems. iii) The candidate should be able to solve basic problems of users. e. The candidate will be given the core-committee membership certificate. f. If the candidate is still not well suited for the post, he/she will have to continue his/her activities with the core-committee for few more days as a non core-committee member. Eventually the membership will be approved. 13. The Secretary will be the head of core-committee. 14. The President will be the head of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'. 15. The Treasurer will be in charge of all the Funds of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'. Secretary: Rohit Gupta (IT-2nd year, KGEC) President: Mr. Kousik Dasgupta (Lecturer, Dept of CSE) Treasurer: Prof. Satadal Mal (HOD, Dept. of EE) No. of Computers expected and Details: a) 1 (one) in Library (already installed). b) 5 (Five) from every Department (CSE, EE, IT, ME, ECE, MCA). c) The maintainance of computers will be done after college hours (5 pm). d)Each computer will have the label as "Maintained by GNU/LUG of KGEC". Work already Done: 1) Having Successfully conducting an installfest in KGEC. Details: http://kgeclug.blog.co.in/ Photo Gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/kgec/ http://picasaweb.google.co.in/kgeclug/KGECInstallfest09 http://www.flickr.com/photos/indradg/sets/72157614247371239/ 2) Setting up a computer in the college Library which has public access with a poster as 'Maintained by GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC'. 3) Starting the Linux For You Magazine in college. Starting this month (April '09). 4) We have the full fedora repository (25.7 GB) for Intel architecture. So no internet connection required for installation of additional software. 5) We have loads of many other different distributions (ubuntu, suse, slackware, etc). 6) The setting up of full fedora repo in RBC and VC. Membership Fees: 1. For membership of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' : Rs. 60 2. For membership in core-committee of 'GNU/Linux User Group of KGEC' : Rs. 30

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Re: [Ambassadors] want to change the email id
by sunil datta 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

thanx I have followed the same procedure. sunil datta --- On Sun, 5/4/09, Rangeen Basu <sherry151(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: Rangeen Basu <sherry151(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] want to change the email id > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Date: Sunday, 5 April, 2009, 4:56 PM > HI Sunil > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:22 PM, sunil datta <sunil_prog(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > hi, > > > > How can I change my email id which is being currently > used for receiving mail from >fedora, so that I should > receive all the mails from fedora at my new email address. > > I believe that what you intend to do is change the email id > that you > used to subscribe to the mailing list and where all the > mails from the > mailing lists are received. If this is what you want then > please > follow these steps > > 1) Go to this page [1] > 2) Scroll to the bottom of the page > 3) You will find this line: "To unsubscribe from > Fedora-ambassadors-list, get a password reminder, or change > your > subscription options enter your subscription email > address:" > 4) Enter your current email id and slick on the button that > says > "Unsubscribe or edit options" > 5) Next you will be asked for the password. Enter your > password for > the list and click login > 6) On top you will find this: "Changing your > Fedora-ambassadors-list > membership information" > 7) Read the instructions and you can change your email id > or name by > providing them and clicking the :change my address and > name" > 8)If you want to change the email id for all the fedora or > redhat > lists you have subscribed to, then check the "change > globally" box. > > If you face any problem, do not hesitate to contact. > > > Regards > -- > Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury > Fedora Ambassador > sherry151(a)gmail.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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Re: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Re: [Fedora Freemedia] #1200: Jaydeep Prasad from INDIA wants a i386 DVD.
by sunil datta 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

hi Frank, > If you find your neighbor or family in that group, it > doesn't matter. And I also completely disagree that > people participating is looking for neighbor and family > relation. > > > > But "freemedia requestors" are entitled to their dignity, I > do not know their welfare, as I guess neither do you. > And what makes you think because they ask for media, anyone > have a right to forward their details even their > County\email to a public list. To all who read my mail, I want to ask that did I ever said that I am interested in their personal affairs. No man, I just want the help those who face problem with linux (of course my knowledge will be a limit of my help). And I was trying to ease the process and you said welfare, dignity, what is this man. And for your information, when I receive a request for someone regarding media, I also get the address, i said home address, so, now what. So, I again request you to read my request mail which i send earlier, with a cool mind. REGARDS Sunil Datta Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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want to change the email id
by sunil datta 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

hi, How can I change my email id which is being currently used for receiving mail from fedora, so that I should receive all the mails from fedora at my new email address. sunil datta Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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Re: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Re: [Fedora Freemedia] #1200: Jaydeep Prasad from INDIA wants a i386 DVD.
by sunil datta 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

> > Yes, but cannot maybe a rquestors negihbours, family etc.. > Know him\her from request details forwarded Ambassador list > , which is > "public". Hence they should not be forwarded, but details > kept within > security of freemedia list. > > Frank > [I am not good in English as you. This is the result of my interpretation. I apologize if if misinterpreted.] I am surprised by the reply of frank. Frank every successful project is a team work and I dont think fedora is an exception. If you find your neighbor or family in that group, it doesn't matter. And I also completely disagree that people participating is looking for neighbor and family relation. And the address are not hidden my dear. when you receive a media request, you also receive a link to the page which contains the address of that person. So I request all, who commented, to please give a second thought to my suggestion and try to understand what i said. I never said make the addresses public. Please read my mail again. sunil datta Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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[Fwd: Re: Fedora Weekly News]
by Gerold 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

Hi everybody, please find below a text which arrived this week in my inbox from a German Linux Radio Station. In short words (translated) they asked me if it's possible to get somebody (or a group) who is willing to "announce" the FWN weekly in German in the radio of that Linux station in a five-minutes-cast. I know that there are a bunch of german speaking Ambassador who're only reading that list and I want to ask who will participate in that "new sub-Project" which I think is really new. Personally I think there should be a group of 5 to six people who are willing to work together, translate the FWN (maybe have some additional region informations) and record them to a hearable stream in the requested format and transfer that to the station. It is imho important that we fullfill that request, because it's important to be "heared" and we have the possibility to "show up" weekly in a 5 minutes session but "YES, we can ....!" ... instead of other Groups, Projects and Distributions which are not as organzied as the EMEA AMbassador and also Marketing Team. At the moment I have Christoph Wickert and Yannik Stadelmaier who are helping. Anybody else??? Waiting for your reply, also about your (additional) ideas Regards Gerold -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Von: S.Kemter <buergermeister(a)karl-tux-stadt.de> > An: Gerold Kassube <gerold(a)lugd.org> > Betreff: Re: Fedora Weekly News > Datum: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:29:26 +0200 > > Am Freitag, den 03.04.2009, 18:20 +0200 schrieb Gerold Kassube: > > wie stellst DU Dir das vor? > > Ganz einfach man nehme Mikro und Audacity erzeuge Mp3 lege dann > hinterher es bei RadioTux ins uploadverzeichnis. > > Muss da dann jemand vor Ort sein, per Telefon? > > nein bequem von jedem Ort der Welt aus > > > Was willst Du da haben; die "Übersetzung" der Original-FWNs? > > Deutsch sollte es sein, sonst müßten wir es ja wieder dubben. Eine > Zusammenfassung des FWN, manches näher erläutert. in rund 5min > > > > Oder wie???? > > > > gruss > > > > Gerold > > > > mfg Sirko > > > > > > Am Freitag, den 03.04.2009, 14:32 +0200 schrieb S.Kemter: > > > Hallo Gerold, > > > > > > > > > Ich bräuchte mal Deine Hilfe. Ich suche für RadioTux ein oder mehrere > > > Ambasadors die die wichtigsten Punkte der FWN wöchentlich einsprechen > > > würden. > > > RadioTux macht das seit einiger Zeit bereits mit Suse aber wir wollen > > > allen Distributionen die Möglichkeit bieten. > > > An wen könnte ich mich da wenden? > > > > > > > > > mfg SIrko -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa(a)fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9

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REMINDER French Meeting today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-04-05 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (05 avr.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Merci de répondre à ce message en cas d'indisponibilité. Thomas Canniot

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REMINDER French Meeting today 1930UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-04-05 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (05 avr.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Merci de répondre à ce message en cas d'indisponibilité. Thomas Canniot

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Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Re: [Fedora Freemedia] #1200: Jaydeep Prasad from INDIA wants a i386 DVD.
by sunil datta 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

Hi all, I will suggest that freemedia tickets forwarded to freemedia provider should be forwarded depending upon the region where freemedia provider lives. It will be economical and feasible. sunil datta --- On Sun, 5/4/09, Fedora Freemedia <freemedia.trac(a)fedorahosted.org> wrote: > From: Fedora Freemedia <freemedia.trac(a)fedorahosted.org> > Subject: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Re: [Fedora Freemedia] #1200: Jaydeep Prasad from INDIA wants a i386 DVD. > To: jaydeepprasad(a)yahoo.co.in, a.mani.cms(a)gmail.com > Cc: fedora-freemedia-list(a)redhat.com > Date: Sunday, 5 April, 2009, 3:49 AM > #1200: Jaydeep Prasad from INDIA > wants a i386 DVD. > ----------------------------------------+----------------------------------- > Reporter: jaydeepprasad(a)yahoo.co.in > | Owner: amani > > Status: assigned > | > Version: i386 DVD > > Resolution: > > | Keywords: APAC, > Fedora 10, April 2009 > Email: jaydeepprasad(a)yahoo.co.in > | Country: INDIA > > ----------------------------------------+----------------------------------- > Changes (by amani): > > * owner: => amani > * status: new => assigned > > -- > Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/ticket/1200#comment:1> > Fedora Freemedia <https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/> > Fedora Freemedia Project > > -- > Fedora-freemedia-list mailing list > Fedora-freemedia-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-freemedia-list > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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Fedora 11 Beta - Installation Issue
by Gaurav Prabhu 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

Hello, I went about Installing Fedora 11 Beta, just a few minutes ago but was unable to boot from the Fedora 11 Beta KDE LIVE CD. After loading the vmlinuz & initrd0.img.... It gave the following error. ACPI : Denied BIOS AML access to invalid port 0x40+0x2 (ELCR) After waiting for a while the CD proceeded showing me the progress bars, but once the bar gets to full progress, the CD fails to go any further. I tried prefixing "noacpi" just after the rhgb quiet, but no use. Any solutions? Regards, Gaurav Prabhu Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/

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FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-04-02
by inode0 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

(07:59:59 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting Roll Call (08:00:04 PM) StabbyMc: here (08:00:34 PM) ***lcafiero misses xorg.conf, but he's here. (08:00:37 PM) lcameron: here (08:01:12 PM) crossbytes: here (08:01:14 PM) herlo: .fas herlo (08:01:15 PM) zodbot: herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1(a)gmail.com> (08:01:45 PM) StabbyMc: .fas smcbrien (08:01:46 PM) zodbot: StabbyMc: smcbrien '' <scott(a)mcbrien.net> (08:02:12 PM) pcalarco: PascalCalarco (08:02:40 PM) ***ianweller (08:02:52 PM) lcameron: .fas lcameorn (08:02:54 PM) zodbot: lcameron: 'lcameorn' Not Found! (08:03:01 PM) lcameron: <-- typetard (08:03:08 PM) lcameron: .fas lcameron (08:03:10 PM) zodbot: lcameron: lcameron '' <leighc(a)gmail.com> (08:03:20 PM) pcalarco: .fas pcalarco (08:03:22 PM) zodbot: pcalarco: pcalarco 'Pascal Vincent Calarco' <pcalarco(a)nd.edu> (08:03:24 PM) ***inode0 notes that a little humor in our 10 minute roll call is good (08:03:28 PM) cprofitt_: here -- NY State - Wester NY (08:03:37 PM) ianweller: .wikiname ianweller (08:03:38 PM) herlo: lcameron: you need to update your FAS account with your name, or take of privacy if you want your name to show :) (08:03:43 PM) ianweller: .wikilink ianweller (08:03:44 PM) zodbot: ianweller: [[User:ianweller|Ian Weller]] (08:03:47 PM) ianweller: ^^^ that. (08:03:48 PM) leitz: .fas leitz (08:03:48 PM) cprofitt_: charles profitt - cprofitt(a)fedora.org (08:03:49 PM) zodbot: leitz: leam 'Leam Hall' <leam(a)reuel.net> (08:04:05 PM) cprofitt_: was that what I have to post? or is there more to the roll call? (08:04:08 PM) herlo: quite a crowd I say :) (08:04:12 PM) inode0: and .wikilink is much appreciated by your secretary (08:04:17 PM) ianweller: cprofitt_: you just say you're here ;) (08:04:19 PM) lcafiero: a raucous caucus (08:04:33 PM) herlo: boo! (08:04:37 PM) inode0: Agenda here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-04-02 (08:05:19 PM) inode0: Announcements - share them if you got them (08:06:06 PM) ***inode0 knows someone has them (08:06:10 PM) herlo: inode0: ?? can I go? (08:06:15 PM) ***lcafiero is thinking (08:06:17 PM) inode0: yes (08:06:19 PM) ***herlo alwasy jumps the gun (08:06:23 PM) herlo: okay! (08:06:28 PM) lcafiero: I can wrap in in the LFNW stuff. Never mind. (08:06:37 PM) herlo: well, for anyone in this room, we have an upcoming Fedora Classroom this Saturday and Sunday (08:06:43 PM) herlo: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom (08:06:50 PM) cprofitt_: ianweller, thanks (08:07:14 PM) herlo: I will note that it's at about 3am in NA so that's a bit early/late depending on when you go to bed :) (08:07:17 PM) herlo: but (08:07:41 PM) herlo: we need to encourage our EMEA and APAC counterparts to participate / present. We're always in need of more presenters (08:08:04 PM) herlo: if you know anyone in EMEA or APAC who you think would be good, bug them. Get them to present (08:08:20 PM) herlo: i should also mention that if you wanna get up / stay up that late, please do and present :) (08:08:24 PM) herlo: eof (08:08:27 PM) inode0: and bug yourself for another month when it is more NA timezone friendly (08:08:39 PM) herlo: inode0: ahh yes (08:08:42 PM) StabbyMc: May looks NA friendly. (08:09:06 PM) ***inode0 pauses 10 seconds for further announcements (08:09:14 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: don't think so (08:09:22 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: 2am, but I think I might change that right now (08:09:40 PM) ***jds2001 here, sorry (08:09:55 PM) StabbyMc: bah, stupid UTC. (08:09:59 PM) inode0: jds2001: I wanted to poke you in the event section (08:10:10 PM) inode0: ok, ready to continue? (08:10:16 PM) herlo: +1 (08:10:18 PM) inode0: NA Event Sponsorship Planning (08:10:19 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:10:26 PM) lcafiero: +1 to StabbyMc (08:10:28 PM) inode0: I just wanted to say something about this (08:10:30 PM) crossbytes: +1 (08:10:58 PM) inode0: we've discussed sponsoring conferences where we are big beneficiaries of the conference a bit lately (08:11:35 PM) inode0: as a way of helping the community that is helping us, being good citizens in the conference world (08:11:53 PM) inode0: and not looking like deadbeats just using conferences for our own purposes (08:12:05 PM) ***herlo just realized he has one more announcement when inode0 is finished (08:12:37 PM) inode0: so we plan to start looking at sponsorship at the early stages of event planning (08:12:59 PM) inode0: and handling the sponsorship costs outside of the normal event budget if possible (08:13:06 PM) ***leitz notes ke4qqq and Fedora supported BarCamp Charlotte early in. (08:13:26 PM) inode0: yes, this isn't new - Fedora has sponsored many events in the past (08:13:53 PM) inode0: what is new is that we are going to make it a point of emphasis in the FAmNA budget process (08:14:17 PM) inode0: of course not everything by any means can be sponsored by Fedora (08:14:53 PM) inode0: we need to use our funding for lots of different things, this is now one we'll be considering early in the process as a routine matter of course though (08:15:27 PM) inode0: and we have committed this quarter to sponsor LFNW and SELF (08:15:29 PM) VileGent: .fasinfo jbwillia (08:15:30 PM) zodbot: VileGent: User: jbwillia, Name: Ben Williams, email: jbwillia(a)math.vt.edu, Creation: 2006-04-17, IRC Nick: Southern_Gentleman, Timezone: UTC, Locale: en, Extension: 5100572, GPG key ID: 295A4FBC (08:15:31 PM) zodbot: VileGent: Approved Groups: cla_done ambassadors cla_fedora gitcourses irc-support-operators (08:15:33 PM) zodbot: VileGent: Unapproved Groups: None (08:15:41 PM) inode0: although SELF doesn't happen until next quarter (08:15:48 PM) cprofitt_: I am planning on trying to attend and present at Educational Technology Shows - is that the kind of thing you are talking about inode0 ? (08:15:52 PM) lcafiero: ? (08:16:25 PM) inode0: cprofitt_: any conference event at which Fedora is participating I think we want to consider sponsorship (08:16:31 PM) cprofitt_: k (08:16:49 PM) herlo: inode0: cprofitt_ makes a good point, we need to differentiate between what we can sponsor and what we will sponsor. Or has that already been discussed? (08:16:59 PM) inode0: if it is just one person giving a talk we probably won't, but if we have a booth, a FAD, several speakers, we should be trying (08:17:24 PM) herlo: agreed, just wanted it to be in print (08:17:30 PM) cprofitt_: what is a FAD? (08:17:34 PM) herlo: or leds (08:17:38 PM) StabbyMc: Fedora Activity Day (08:17:41 PM) cprofitt_: k (08:17:57 PM) herlo: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_-_FAD (08:18:04 PM) inode0: so when Fedora has a *major* presence we probably should try to help sponsor the event at least (08:18:12 PM) cprofitt_: I usually try to see what the deals are for booths for NFP groups, but will sponsorship be possible if the booth has a cost? (08:18:51 PM) leitz: Newb question--is there a page that says what we can do at events and what stuff we can get from Fedora-MKTG so we present a unified image? (08:18:52 PM) inode0: we will need to look at each case and it will of course depend on our budget for the particular quarter (08:19:18 PM) herlo: leitz: yes, there is hang on (08:19:26 PM) cprofitt_: inode0, noted... I will not trouble this meeting more... perhaps I can give you the details after the meeting ends (08:19:47 PM) inode0: no trouble at all, please feel completely free to participate in the meeting (08:20:16 PM) cprofitt_: I just don't want to go too far off track with specifics... (08:20:25 PM) inode0: are there other comments anyone wants to make about sponsorship? (08:20:25 PM) ***stickster will be lurking, but is working on release notes tonight with Docs crew (08:20:31 PM) herlo: leitz: this applies for anything, not just Conferences and Events: (08:20:32 PM) herlo: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/North_American_Ambassadors_World_Domination_P… (08:20:39 PM) leitz: herlo--thanks! (08:20:55 PM) jds2001: stickster: bah, who needs release notes? (08:20:59 PM) jds2001: I KID, I KID :) (08:21:02 PM) herlo: heh (08:21:06 PM) lcafiero: heh (08:21:32 PM) VileGent: jds2001, yeah nobody reads them anyways :) (08:21:37 PM) inode0: ok, this leads us into the events part of the program (08:21:42 PM) cprofitt_: http://www.nyscate.org/conferences.cfm -- the one I am talking about are the annual one in Rochester, NY (08:21:45 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents (08:22:04 PM) inode0: Let's begin by giving the floor to lcafiero to discuss LFNW (08:22:23 PM) ***lcafiero takes a bow. (08:22:31 PM) lcafiero: I'll make this quick (08:22:45 PM) herlo: but I'll make it longer :) (08:23:02 PM) lcafiero: LFNW is 25-26 of April, and we haven't really solidified what we're going to do at the FAD, and I'm open to suggestions (08:23:09 PM) inode0: We need to get to NYLUG before jds2001 grows a beard (08:23:15 PM) lcafiero: I have been approached to do a couple of things. (08:23:24 PM) ***jds2001 already has a beard :D (08:23:31 PM) ***lcafiero thinks -- I thought jds2001 had a beard (08:23:40 PM) cprofitt_: NYLUG? (08:23:53 PM) inode0: sorry, I've derailed LFNW - back on topic (08:23:57 PM) lcafiero: But anyway, I had proposed to continue what we did at FAD SCaLE, which was packaging fonts and documentation (08:24:03 PM) lcafiero: But I'm flexible. (08:24:18 PM) jds2001: who's going to LFNW? (08:24:26 PM) lcafiero: I've told the LFNW folks that I will give my Fedora 101 talk at the beginning of the FAD, which is all day Saturday. (08:24:28 PM) jds2001: SCaLE broke the bank for me, or I'd be there :D (08:24:33 PM) ***lcafiero raises hand (08:24:46 PM) inode0: lcafiero: we can't really say what to do since the people attending should be doing what they want to do (08:24:51 PM) lcafiero: I think it's quaid, herlo, me, adam williamson is coming down from vancouver (08:24:55 PM) lcafiero: Um . . . (08:25:03 PM) lcafiero: jesse keating (08:25:10 PM) lcafiero: I think he said he was going. (08:25:15 PM) jds2001: i though jesse couldnt make it. (08:25:21 PM) lcafiero: There's a list of folks on the wiki page (08:25:24 PM) lcafiero: which is . . . . (08:25:27 PM) jds2001: f13: you around by chance? (08:25:42 PM) crossbytes: I am going if my back allows me to go.. (08:26:25 PM) lcafiero: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxFest_Northwest_(LFNW)_2009 (08:26:39 PM) lcafiero: jeff sandys, brennan ashton. (08:26:45 PM) lcafiero: Matt McKenzie can't make it. (08:27:11 PM) lcafiero: Jesse wanted to do a brief presentation at the FAD, which is okay with me. (08:27:17 PM) ***inode0 thinks you need to organize the FAD with those people (08:27:22 PM) jds2001: yeppers (08:27:52 PM) herlo: lcafiero: what time does the con end on Sunday night? I'm looking at late flights that night or early the next morning (which there are none really) (08:28:07 PM) lcafiero: I'll take that as you folks don't have a preference of what we do at this FAD. (08:28:28 PM) lcafiero: herlo: I have to check. I don't know for sure, but I'd assume it's 5ish like SCaLE. (08:28:29 PM) inode0: it just doesn't matter what we think :) (08:28:33 PM) herlo: hmm (08:28:56 PM) lcafiero: Also, I've arranged to get the first table by the door in the hall so we'll get people coming and going. (08:29:09 PM) lcafiero: And we're also sponsors, as inode0 mentioned earlier. (08:29:09 PM) inode0: that is always excellent (08:29:11 PM) herlo: lcafiero: it's about the folks up there and what they wanna do. Those of us that are coming should probably put in for something. i was kind of thinking a OLPC hackfest to create a 4th grade math item would be cool (08:29:22 PM) lcafiero: We could do that. (08:29:27 PM) inode0: has that shown up on the website? (08:29:36 PM) ***inode0 would not mind the publicity (08:29:40 PM) lcafiero: On our wiki or on LFNW's site? (08:29:47 PM) herlo: inode0: what shown up? (08:29:50 PM) ***lcafiero doesn't know what "that" is. (08:29:55 PM) jds2001: our sponsorship (08:29:59 PM) jds2001: on LFNW's site (08:30:02 PM) ***jds2001 reads minds (08:30:06 PM) lcafiero: http://www.lfnw.org (08:30:08 PM) inode0: yes! (08:30:09 PM) herlo: apparently (08:30:13 PM) lcafiero: Haven't been there today. (08:30:30 PM) jds2001: we are there (08:30:35 PM) inode0: can we get moved right above amazon? :) (08:30:41 PM) herlo: lol (08:30:52 PM) lcafiero: Anyway, that was the only thing pressing -- the topic(s) of FAD, and if it's up to our own devices, we'll have something really exciting. (08:31:04 PM) lcafiero: heh @ herlo (08:31:26 PM) lcafiero: That and the deadline for the special price on the hotel is tomorrow, so get your reservations in. (08:31:31 PM) lcafiero: For those of you who are going. (08:31:57 PM) lcafiero: We can discuss this more on the list, but I'm liking the OLPC idea. (08:32:17 PM) inode0: be sure to touch base with spevack about the FAD plans when they are formed (08:32:22 PM) lcafiero: Right. (08:32:33 PM) lcafiero: That's already being done. (08:32:43 PM) inode0: good, thanks (08:33:02 PM) lcafiero: I think that's really all there is to report. If quaid is lurking and wants to add something . . . . (08:33:19 PM) ***lcafiero takes that as a "no" (08:33:22 PM) crossbytes: I will do a crash course on Python for the OLPC ..then (08:33:30 PM) inode0: ok, NYLUG time (08:33:35 PM) crossbytes: any suggestions? (08:33:38 PM) lcafiero: Right, Kevin Higgins (08:33:45 PM) inode0: is that still happening jds2001? with the sudden change (08:33:47 PM) lcafiero: He's also on the list to be at LFNW (08:33:55 PM) quaid: oh, hey, is this the meeting? (08:34:00 PM) quaid: sorry, I just got back home (08:34:05 PM) jds2001: inode0: i believe so. I believe this will be our last meeting at IBM. (08:34:07 PM) lcafiero: If the doc gives the okay. crossbytes? (08:34:30 PM) inode0: jds2001: ok, so are we all set with funds? (08:34:40 PM) ***jds2001 has heard nothing of funds. (08:34:48 PM) jds2001: except informally (08:35:09 PM) ***lcafiero will be back in 2 minutes. has to go across the room to slap a reporter. (08:35:17 PM) inode0: someone set aside funds for the event (08:35:40 PM) ***jds2001 plans on giving away a few USB keys, pizza. (08:35:49 PM) inode0: let me know if anything needs to be arranged beyond saying we'll reimburse X (08:36:25 PM) inode0: need any other swag since it is the farewell event (08:36:59 PM) jds2001: that would be awesome. I have plenty of media and stickers (08:37:15 PM) jds2001: I'd *like* some tshirts, but that's not mandatory. (08:37:30 PM) inode0: get some - you know how to use trac? :-) (08:37:39 PM) herlo: lol (08:37:50 PM) ***jds2001 thinks he can figure it out somehow :D (08:37:59 PM) jds2001: for those that don't know i set up the request system :) (08:38:02 PM) herlo: is that it for LFNW and its FAD? (08:38:10 PM) herlo: or are we into Events? (08:38:11 PM) crossbytes: I do not have an ambassador kit as of yet but was waiting for F11 to come out...it will be right bfore my B-day (08:38:19 PM) inode0: ok sounds like we are good then for NYLUG (08:38:35 PM) inode0: jds2001 can ping me if he needs any other help getting stuff arranged (08:38:37 PM) herlo: crossbytes: it will take aobut 2 weeks after release to get you an F11 ambkit (08:39:01 PM) herlo: crossbytes: you should take some of our F10 disks, we have a lot left. (08:39:12 PM) ***herlo learned a good lesson about purchasing this time... :) (08:39:12 PM) ***lcafiero is back, and no he didn't REALLY slap a reporter, but did instruct him on the past tenses of some important verbs. (08:39:16 PM) inode0: herlo: I merged LFNW into events since it is an event anyway (08:39:26 PM) herlo: indeed (08:39:30 PM) lcafiero: question: When is NYLUG? (08:39:35 PM) inode0: 15th (08:39:36 PM) jds2001: April 15 (08:39:38 PM) lcafiero: Thanks. (08:39:39 PM) crossbytes: thats ok the F10's will work also.. (08:39:42 PM) herlo: inode0: I'd like to make an announcement RE: Events. (08:39:52 PM) inode0: herlo has the floor (08:40:10 PM) herlo: UTOSC is now ready to announce it's dates, that is all. We;ll have an announcement out on Saturday with Venue, dates and we already have our theme post up today (08:40:13 PM) jds2001: cprofitt_: if you wanna come down to NYC for nylug feel free. (08:40:26 PM) herlo: http://blog.utos.org/2009/04/02/theme-utah-open-source-2009/ (08:40:28 PM) herlo: eof (08:40:45 PM) herlo: oh, it'll be in Early October (08:40:47 PM) inode0: Fedora might have some presence at this event (08:41:03 PM) ***jds2001 thought you wanted August :/ (08:41:13 PM) herlo: jds2001: nope, that was lcafiero (08:41:14 PM) lcafiero: Early october -- so much for the summer trip :-( (08:41:20 PM) herlo: lcafiero: sorry man (08:41:26 PM) inode0: October is better :) (08:41:28 PM) lcafiero: No biggie -- we'll still be there. (08:41:29 PM) herlo: lots of factors to consider (08:41:41 PM) herlo: Fedora WILL have a presence there :) (08:41:42 PM) lcafiero: That doesn't conflict with OLF? (08:41:47 PM) cprofitt_: that is a bit far for me... jds2001 but perhaps we can have a NY State event in the middle of the state... Syracuse? (08:41:54 PM) inode0: OLF is in September this year (08:42:07 PM) herlo: it's about 3 weeks apart iirc (08:42:24 PM) herlo: but we're not looking to snipe their attendees per se... (08:42:46 PM) inode0: Ok, are there any other events to talk about tonight? (08:43:05 PM) inode0: we sent stuff to PyCon but I've not heard a report yet about the event (08:43:10 PM) herlo: I wanted to mention that LFNW will rock :) (08:43:34 PM) ***lcafiero wants everyone to know that it's not my fault this meeting went past 10 minutes (08:43:44 PM) inode0: LUCI is supposed to be this month ... is a date for that set yet? (08:43:44 PM) lcafiero: Actually, herlo is right about LFNW. (08:43:52 PM) lcafiero: Actually, I need to change that. (08:44:03 PM) lcafiero: LUCI is now probably in the fall when classes start again. (08:44:12 PM) inode0: ok, (08:44:23 PM) inode0: I'll stop worrying about LUCI for now (08:44:25 PM) lcafiero: jsmidt had some things come up and he and joe smith (an ubuntero down there) (08:44:36 PM) lcafiero: said they'd pick it up at the beginning of the school year. (08:44:59 PM) inode0: events going once (08:45:07 PM) inode0: events going twice (08:45:16 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget (08:45:26 PM) inode0: spevack wants us to do something aboutthe budget (08:45:45 PM) herlo: what? (08:45:47 PM) StabbyMc: do somthing in what sense? (08:45:51 PM) inode0: unfortunately I don't think he is awake to tell us what that is exactly (08:46:07 PM) inode0: he wants us to actually get to spending it I believe (08:46:43 PM) inode0: The big ticket item is in herlo's court I think (08:46:53 PM) inode0: How is infrastructure research going? (08:47:03 PM) herlo: inode0: yeah, so I am finally able to launch scribus (08:47:33 PM) herlo: so now I can do cmyk coloring (08:47:42 PM) inode0: great (08:47:45 PM) herlo: and I'll have two banners printed (08:47:50 PM) inode0: are banners picked out? (08:47:53 PM) herlo: in addition, I decided they needed to change (08:47:58 PM) herlo: inode0: yes, sorta (08:48:33 PM) herlo: http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/art/fedora_four_fs_vertical_banner_sm.png (08:49:00 PM) lcafiero: nice (08:49:01 PM) inode0: that is really nice, still thinking about a scrolling display? (08:49:34 PM) herlo: yes (08:49:37 PM) herlo: here's the thing (08:49:56 PM) herlo: everyone else seems to be useing the more colorful banners that mo created. Was kind of thinking of adding that to the background (08:49:59 PM) herlo: should be pretty easy (08:50:29 PM) ***inode0 votes for herlo to take however much time is required to get it right in his eyes (08:50:36 PM) jds2001: though dont we need something for LFNW if we don't have the retractable ones? (08:50:37 PM) VileGent: +1 (08:50:51 PM) herlo: inode0: thing is, I'd like to get it to LFNW (08:50:58 PM) leitz: Do you have an image with the more colorful backgrounds? (08:51:04 PM) herlo: leitz: yes, hold on (08:51:22 PM) herlo: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/collateral/fourfs/four-fs-four-posters.png (08:51:28 PM) herlo: somethign along those lines (08:51:37 PM) inode0: those are sweet (08:52:00 PM) herlo: those are okay. I think they're kind of noisy (08:52:09 PM) inode0: they are noisy too (08:52:10 PM) jds2001: me too, actually (08:52:16 PM) leitz: My preference, and it's just that, is the first set. More distinctive. (08:52:33 PM) ***inode0 agrees and disagrees with everything (08:52:41 PM) herlo: lol (08:53:01 PM) crossbytes: the less colorful one seems to complemnt the OLPC style more than the other so kind of depends on if OLPC is going to ther IMO (08:53:03 PM) inode0: which is why he doesn't decide what gets used but waits for herlo to decide (08:53:06 PM) ***leitz ignores inode0 about everything... (08:53:07 PM) herlo: so I'm going to play with the color schemes that mizmo did and see if I can come up with something a bit less noisy (08:53:22 PM) herlo: but I shoul dhave them ordered early next week (08:53:45 PM) inode0: great, spevack will be happy (08:54:12 PM) inode0: while we are talking about budget dthomasdigital has started looking again at case badges (08:54:17 PM) inode0: welcome dthomasdigital (08:54:22 PM) dthomasdigital: hi (08:54:24 PM) inode0: anything to report yet? (08:54:41 PM) herlo: inode0: I gave dthomasdigital some of the ones I created so he could start looking (08:55:25 PM) dthomasdigital: I've sent the manufactures examples of the logo should have quotes very soon. (08:55:43 PM) inode0: would anyone else like to investigate where we can buy some fedora branded tattoos before I forget? (08:55:57 PM) lcameron: ? (08:56:02 PM) inode0: good dthomasdigital, I know you just started and didn't mean to put you on the spot tonight (08:56:14 PM) lcameron: on the case badges, are you going with the 3d ones? or nice flat ones? (08:56:19 PM) dthomasdigital: very happy to do it. (08:56:22 PM) inode0: you just walked through the door while we were on this topic (08:56:42 PM) dthomasdigital: I'm looking for the aluminum (08:56:53 PM) inode0: lcameron: open question, but I think most of like flat better than domed (08:57:02 PM) inode0: most of us (08:57:12 PM) lcameron: I agree, 3d fall apart easy (08:58:03 PM) inode0: quaid: how is mysql looking? it is on the budget with $0 (08:58:34 PM) lcafiero: I can answer that if quaid's not around. (08:58:47 PM) inode0: go ahead lcafiero (08:59:39 PM) lcafiero: I don't believe we're having anything at the mysql conference. RH does, though. Some of the locals here go and work at the dbEntrance booth (dbEntrance is developed in Boulder Creek, Calif., not far from here) (08:59:53 PM) lcafiero: So that's why the budget may be $0. (09:00:01 PM) ***quaid is probably not going to go, as it happens (09:00:08 PM) quaid: too much this month, nebuluous value (09:00:21 PM) ***inode0 doesn't understand it being on the budget if it is $0 :) (09:00:34 PM) quaid: just in case (09:00:46 PM) lcafiero: ^^^ what quaid said. (09:00:51 PM) inode0: right ok (09:01:03 PM) inode0: sounds like we don't worry about it now (09:01:20 PM) lcafiero: it's the 22nd through the 25th, or something like that. I can only go on the Tuesday, assuming we're not hitting the road that day for LFNW. (09:01:31 PM) inode0: tattoos anyone? (09:01:39 PM) ***lcafiero raises hand (09:01:47 PM) ***cprofitt is still here just swapped computers (09:01:47 PM) inode0: I'll start twisting arms until they hurt pretty soon ... (09:01:53 PM) inode0: just a warning (09:02:01 PM) davdunc: I can look into the tattoos as well. (09:02:06 PM) VileGent: inode0, explain what you want (09:02:21 PM) herlo: I thought ke4qqq already figured those out but we just needed to order them (09:02:24 PM) inode0: VileGent: temp fedora logo tattoos for conferences (09:02:41 PM) VileGent: vegtable ink (09:02:42 PM) inode0: well let's do it, they are cheap (09:02:43 PM) herlo: we've had these on the budget for some time (09:02:46 PM) lcafiero: awwww, they're temporary . . . ? (09:03:00 PM) inode0: I assumed the original place didn't work out (09:03:24 PM) herlo: dunno (09:03:27 PM) inode0: lcafiero: is you hand still raised? (09:03:37 PM) inode0: can we keep both of them in plain sight? (09:04:03 PM) lcafiero: No, I was just saying I wanted tattoos (09:04:09 PM) ***inode0 wants to order tattoos so if anyone is willing to look into it please just do (09:04:17 PM) davdunc: I am. (09:04:18 PM) inode0: ke4qqq is very busy anyway (09:04:22 PM) herlo: davdunc: awesome! (09:04:28 PM) inode0: yes, thank you davdunc (09:05:01 PM) VileGent: http://www.www-temporarytattoos.com/?gclid=CIGzs8XP05kCFRpN5QodpDEpVw (09:05:03 PM) inode0: that is all my budget items, anyone else have any? (09:05:18 PM) herlo: whew! (09:05:23 PM) ***herlo has to go soon... (09:05:23 PM) dthomasdigital: tattoos would be great for NM linuxfest (09:05:33 PM) davdunc: thanks VileGent (09:05:36 PM) herlo: dthomasdigital: UTOSC thinks so doo (09:05:37 PM) herlo: too (09:05:47 PM) ***inode0 would like about 5000 :) (09:05:53 PM) lcameron: try http://customtattoos.net/custom2.html (09:05:56 PM) StabbyMc: inode0: do we have vast amounts of money we need to figure out how to spend? (09:06:08 PM) inode0: StabbyMc: not vast amounts (09:06:22 PM) StabbyMc: But it's like the g'ment, use or lose? (09:06:33 PM) inode0: we have a few swag items that have been on the budget for more than a quarter but haven't been ordered (09:06:48 PM) davdunc: :-) 5000. o.k. (09:06:53 PM) inode0: so I'm pushing to get those done this quarter (09:07:15 PM) inode0: davdunc: we had at some point a quote for 5000 tattoos for around $250 (09:08:31 PM) StabbyMc: EMEA has the polo thing for when they do shows, do we have something similar? (09:08:34 PM) inode0: StabbyMc: not exactly, we want to spend it wisely (09:08:35 PM) davdunc: alright. I'll have something ready end of the weekend. You know I am pretty new at this. Was there artwork already decided for this? (09:08:37 PM) jds2001: riel: you wanna be an ambassador now :) (09:08:40 PM) jds2001: StabbyMc: we do (09:08:45 PM) VileGent: question no one going to OLF this year? (09:08:53 PM) inode0: and pcalarco is in the house tonight! (09:09:04 PM) herlo: VileGent: OLF is far off (09:09:15 PM) pcalarco: aye (09:09:19 PM) VileGent: herlo but not on the list (09:09:21 PM) herlo: pcalarco: !!! (09:09:31 PM) herlo: VileGent: that just means nobody has claimed it yet (09:09:45 PM) herlo: feel free to add it and take control :) (09:09:48 PM) inode0: StabbyMc: pcalarco (pascal) is our polo savior (09:09:48 PM) jds2001: VileGent: if you'd like to run it, fee free :) (09:10:03 PM) ***herlo heads off to another meeting, ugh! (09:10:09 PM) inode0: night herlo, thanks (09:10:13 PM) jds2001: pcalarco: when are they coming btw? (09:10:24 PM) ***jds2001 still not received his two additional. (09:10:29 PM) VileGent: jds2001, run it no attend yes (09:10:34 PM) pcalarco: we did a polo order awhile back, have to send a few more out yet, to jds2000 and stickster (09:10:44 PM) jds2001: oh, ok :) (09:10:57 PM) inode0: jds2001 maybe is in the next batch then :) (09:11:01 PM) pcalarco: we could start collecting names for another order (09:11:11 PM) stickster: pcalarco: Do I owe you $$? (09:11:24 PM) inode0: we have a lot of new guys and I think there is interest again (09:11:30 PM) pcalarco: stickster: yes, I will email you (09:11:48 PM) pcalarco: great (09:12:04 PM) ***lcafiero likes his polo so much he might buy another. (09:12:06 PM) StabbyMc: inode0: this is something that might be cool for the Ambassador mentorship program, run an event, earn your polo, gratis? (09:12:30 PM) inode0: StabbyMc: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA <- has polo sign-up (09:13:06 PM) jds2001: lcafiero: i'll have 3 :) (09:13:17 PM) jds2001: my original and 2 more. (09:13:35 PM) ***jds2001 found the limitations of only having one at SCaLE :) (09:14:13 PM) inode0: polos would certainly be an incentive (09:14:54 PM) jds2001: indeed, and aside from outrageous shipping they're not horribly expensive. (09:15:08 PM) inode0: Seeing nothing particularly pressing on the task list I'd like to move to ... drum roll .... (09:15:13 PM) pcalarco: not too expensive if done in bulk; $23 plus shipping (09:15:15 PM) inode0: Open Floor (09:15:22 PM) StabbyMc: speaking of which: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/New_Ambassador_Mentor_Program (09:15:37 PM) inode0: thanks for pointing that out (09:15:39 PM) lcafiero: Lindependence will be holding an event in New Mexico this year. (09:16:05 PM) ***inode0 notes to move that to the announcements :) (09:16:07 PM) StabbyMc: I put together that page rather quickly, and would like to see some edits and ideas other than my own ;-) (09:16:31 PM) lcafiero: In Portales. I'll post more on the list. (09:16:47 PM) inode0: I suspect people are waiting to hear what FAmSCo decides to do about mentoring if anything (09:17:04 PM) ***StabbyMc suspects it's not high on their radar. (09:17:15 PM) inode0: oh it is very high on their radar (09:17:39 PM) ***StabbyMc missed todays meeting (09:17:42 PM) dthomasdigital: lcafiero Portales New Mexico? (09:17:48 PM) StabbyMc: Was it discussed? (09:17:52 PM) inode0: I suspect they will vote on parts of it at least next week (09:18:14 PM) inode0: it was discussed heavily last week and on the mailing list (09:18:56 PM) inode0: and I'll also add my announcement that I forgot (09:19:27 PM) inode0: The Board is having their public meeting/Q&A next Tuesday (09:19:59 PM) inode0: Should be fun as always so if you can come and talk with the board members about anything that concerns you (09:20:22 PM) inode0: new format this month as a bonus (09:20:37 PM) inode0: (an experiment) (09:20:48 PM) leitz: Do you think they will vote on more than "yes mentoring is good and the regions should do it"? (09:21:21 PM) ***jds2001 fails to understand why mentoring is a famsco concern. (09:21:26 PM) inode0: yes, but rather than conjecture here I think it is best to wait and see what they actually do (09:21:33 PM) jds2001: unless they want to mandate it for other regions. (09:22:04 PM) leitz: If there's no dissent about the value of mentoring, why wait? (09:22:46 PM) ***jds2001 of the JFDI mindset. (09:22:57 PM) inode0: because if we set up something this week and they change the membership process that borks our stuff next week ... (09:23:03 PM) MadBus: this the FAmNA meeting? (09:23:10 PM) jds2001: MadBus: it is (09:23:12 PM) lcafiero: dthomasdigital, yes. (09:23:20 PM) MadBus: cool (09:23:36 PM) jds2001: you are uite late, and we've run over as usual :) (09:23:37 PM) inode0: I just figure it is best to see what they do before we do anything since it won't be a long wait (09:23:43 PM) dthomasdigital: lcafiero in Albuquerque here. (09:23:57 PM) lcafiero: Yeah, you may have spoken to Bob about it. (09:24:19 PM) inode0: MadBus: and don't popping in for the final 2 minutes will get you on the roll call :) (09:24:26 PM) MadBus: inode0, lol (09:24:26 PM) inode0: don't think (09:24:29 PM) MadBus: inode0, I just got home (09:24:35 PM) MadBus: inode0, I've had a crazy night (09:24:48 PM) jds2001 has changed the topic to: Fedora Ambassadors Meeting (09:24:52 PM) jds2001: MadBus: happy now :) (09:24:56 PM) MadBus: yes :-) (09:25:17 PM) inode0: Is there other business or are we ready to wrap up for tonight? (09:25:30 PM) lcafiero: yep, that was 10 minutes :-) (09:25:40 PM) MadBus: not to bring up things already discussed but what is the going to happen with the new membership process (09:25:44 PM) MadBus: still in review? (09:25:55 PM) ***inode0 notes we successfully followed EMEA and hit 30 minutes almost on the button (09:25:56 PM) jds2001: MadBus: we're waiting on famsco for that. (09:26:13 PM) jds2001: 30 minutes? (09:26:16 PM) jds2001: 1.5 hours :) (09:26:31 PM) MadBus: jds2001, is it all in their hands now or is an ongoing pan-ambassadors discussion? (09:26:37 PM) ***inode0 didn't start the clock for the first hour so he wouldn't run long :) (09:26:42 PM) lcafiero: that dang daylight savings time again (09:26:50 PM) MadBus: lol (09:27:36 PM) inode0: ok, thank you everyone for coming and helping - especially all the new ambassadors (09:27:39 PM) ***MadBus has a thought - what about ambassadors presenting to OEM vendors? (09:27:43 PM) ***jds2001 has been busy with infra and FESCo-like duties, so I have to admit to not following it closely (09:27:48 PM) inode0: that is fine MadBus (09:27:53 PM) ***lcafiero backs away slowly (09:28:12 PM) inode0: hands away from the typewriter where we can see 'em mister (09:28:19 PM) MadBus: lol (09:28:43 PM) lcafiero: heh (09:28:43 PM) MadBus: inode0, as in, could we intentionally plan to send a few people to say IBM or HP, etc. (09:28:54 PM) inode0: sure (09:28:55 PM) ***lcafiero lives near HP (09:29:07 PM) MadBus: lcafiero, Cali? (09:29:11 PM) lcafiero: Yup (09:29:15 PM) MadBus: lcafiero, I may be your neighbor soon (09:29:19 PM) lcafiero: Just over the hill from the Silicon Valley. (09:29:22 PM) lcafiero: Yeah? (09:29:42 PM) MadBus: I'll be in or near Pasadena (09:29:45 PM) ***lcafiero jumps for joy -- more ambassadors in California (09:29:52 PM) inode0: working with vendors to get them to contribute is a perfectly fine use of ambassador power (09:29:52 PM) MadBus: (assuming the rest of the few loose ends get tied soon) (09:30:15 PM) ***leitz heads off... (09:30:17 PM) MadBus: inode0, that and also pitching Fedora for OEM use (09:30:28 PM) MadBus: inode0, which is another good way to get contributors (09:30:32 PM) lcafiero: Great MadBus (09:30:37 PM) inode0: well, pitching for OEM use I don't think is productive (09:30:51 PM) inode0: but you can try (09:31:05 PM) MadBus: inode0, not productive - because they won't likely bite? (09:31:32 PM) MadBus: (because of the short life?) (09:31:41 PM) inode0: it doesn't make sense for them to bite, and I don't think it makes sense for us to think they should (09:31:55 PM) cprofitt: I think working with K-12 institutions could yield fruit (09:31:59 PM) MadBus: or not productive because we could be spending our time asking the vendor themselves to contribute (09:32:03 PM) MadBus: cprofitt, +1 (09:32:13 PM) lcafiero: +1 (09:32:17 PM) cprofitt: if they want HP or Lenovo to give them Fedora and they order 300 units (09:32:19 PM) MadBus: cprofitt, except I worry about them too - I see a computer lab full of fc3 machines (09:32:21 PM) cprofitt: they will get that effort (09:32:41 PM) inode0: yes, the short life is not a good fit (09:32:48 PM) cprofitt: MadBus, I worry about that as well... (09:33:03 PM) MadBus: cprofitt, I like your train of thought though (09:33:08 PM) cprofitt: I think the budget crisis will impact a lot of schools (09:33:15 PM) MadBus: cprofitt, if we could show a vendor a market already exists (09:33:20 PM) cprofitt: and they will be looking for a way off the Apple/Microsoft train (09:33:23 PM) MadBus: (and in my opinion it does) (09:33:46 PM) MadBus: heh, online petition! (09:33:49 PM) inode0: a vendor needs time to test, produce, get into supply channels, sell, and it is EOL (09:33:52 PM) StabbyMc: cprofitt: I think cent is likely a better candidate, at least for their infrastructure. (09:33:58 PM) cprofitt: and the issue I see is that the non-technical administrative folks are scared of going off the track (09:34:05 PM) cprofitt: StabbyMc, for the servers I agree (09:34:09 PM) MadBus: StabbyMc, Cent doesn't have much in terms of bells and whistles (09:34:15 PM) cprofitt: for the desktops... maybe not (09:34:24 PM) StabbyMc: Agreed, for many of the things the students would want, Fedora would be nicer. (09:34:27 PM) cprofitt: though Fedora is a little bleeding edge (09:34:33 PM) MadBus: not enough to attract consumer PC buyers (09:34:33 PM) cprofitt: for some I guess (09:34:44 PM) MadBus: cprofitt, maybe a vendor re-spin (09:34:50 PM) MadBus: that could work great if they contribute upstream (09:35:09 PM) cprofitt: If a major vendor would offer Fedora then the administrative non-technical people might stop being scared (09:35:22 PM) MadBus: lol, good point (09:35:23 PM) cprofitt: exactly MadBus (09:35:32 PM) cprofitt: Like Dell with Ubuntu -- (09:35:42 PM) MadBus: cprofitt, very yes (09:35:42 PM) cprofitt: they offer the media codecs and such (09:35:43 PM) inode0: isn't going to happen (09:36:00 PM) MadBus: cprofitt, Dell + Ubuntu is a great example (09:36:00 PM) cprofitt: inode0, if we can get the schools to ask it might (09:36:17 PM) StabbyMc: There's a reason RHEL came into being, and it was Dell, IBM, HP, Oracle and many others who pushed for it. (09:36:24 PM) MadBus: we need to find the right carrot to put in front of the donkey (09:36:47 PM) crossbytes: k12 needs to be worked on... (09:36:55 PM) cprofitt: I know from my discussions with my HP and Lenovo reps they said they would do it if a school asked for it... (09:37:10 PM) MadBus: cprofitt, kewl!! (09:37:18 PM) cprofitt: my problem is that my 'administrator' looks at me like I have horns growing out of my head when I suggest FOSS (09:37:23 PM) MadBus: cprofitt, I think Google might actually help us here (09:37:25 PM) ***inode0 will believe it when he sees it (09:37:37 PM) cprofitt: inode0, I agree it is a long shot... (09:37:38 PM) StabbyMc: do it = install it, or do it = support it? (09:37:48 PM) cprofitt: StabbyMc, both (09:37:54 PM) MadBus: cprofitt, it would be cool to tell Google our thoughts - another long shot (09:38:01 PM) cprofitt: but it would have to be a large institutional order (09:38:06 PM) MadBus: but I bet K12 schools would be attracted to Google (09:38:42 PM) MadBus: K12 at least would eliminate some of the stigma towards Linux with the next generation (09:38:54 PM) cprofitt: I actually think the key is to get the teachers to WANT it... (09:39:08 PM) MadBus: cprofitt, and mention the free part for their IT staff (09:39:16 PM) cprofitt: and talk to larger city schools about how Linux (Fedora) and FOSS software closes the digital divide (09:39:16 PM) StabbyMc: cprofitt: I just think it's a hard sale as fedora needs care and feeding and has a shelf life of about a year. k-12 lab administrators like stuff like XP that's been around for how long? ... (09:39:28 PM) crossbytes: not k-12 k12ltsp https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/K12Linux (09:39:36 PM) inode0: talking with some of the prominent Fedora contributors not too far removed from K-12 you don't get much feeling K-12 is eager to go this way (09:39:51 PM) cprofitt: StabbyMc, I agree that I would prefer an LTS, but I also like the option to have more recent stuff (09:40:02 PM) cprofitt: I actually am a K-12 systems administrator (09:40:17 PM) cprofitt: I used to do Novell... now AD / OD (09:40:19 PM) crossbytes: I am working with alot of k12 principals now.. that is why I am intrestd in the OLPC (09:40:23 PM) MadBus: K12 LTSP (09:40:24 PM) MadBus: wow (09:40:36 PM) StabbyMc: cprofitt: here in ATL, the schools are using RHEL with some terminal services and dataless terminals. (09:40:45 PM) cprofitt: but would like to move towards Fedora Directory Server or something like that... (09:40:48 PM) cprofitt: StabbyMc, yep... (09:41:07 PM) StabbyMc: They wanted dataless because they'd have less machines to maintain. (09:41:07 PM) MadBus: cprofitt, if you want "LTS" help me with me EOL updates, but that's a different conversation (09:41:10 PM) cprofitt: haven't broken that water here in WNY (09:41:19 PM) cprofitt: and the backend of a district would likely be RHEL (09:41:57 PM) crossbytes: and also http://news.softpedia.com/news/AsteriskNOW-1-5-0-Is-Based-on-CentOS-5-3-108… and I help them set the systems up.. (09:42:00 PM) cprofitt: yeah LTSP is a very strong choice as schools move aware from individual work stations, but I think with the low cost of the netbooks they are looking at 1 to 1 ideas again (09:42:03 PM) inode0: I don't want to cut off the discussion but I do want to end the meeting ... feel free to continue here or in #fedora-ambassadors this discussion (09:42:07 PM) StabbyMc: cprofitt: City of Atlanta shelled out big $$ on eqiupment, and then again on consultants because they just don't have the skills on staff. (09:42:23 PM) inode0: 5 (09:42:24 PM) inode0: 4 (09:42:25 PM) inode0: 3 (09:42:25 PM) inode0: 21 (09:42:25 PM) cprofitt: StabbyMc, but the skills can be developed... (09:42:29 PM) inode0: EOF

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FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-04-02
by inode0 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

* Announcements - Fedora Classroom sessions this Saturday and Sunday https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom All forms of partipation are encouraged - UTOSC is now ready to announce it's dates http://blog.utos.org/2009/04/02/theme-utah-open-source-2009/ - The Board is having their public meeting/Q&A next Tuesday - Lindependence will be holding an event in New Mexico this year * NA Event Sponsorship Planning There has been some recent discussion within FAmNA about how to best handle when and where Fedora might sponsor events in NA. The general motivation behind event sponsorship is that it is one part of being a good member of the event community we all benefit from participating in. While we need to recognize we can't sponsor all events, we do want to sponsor ones that we have a large presence at when our budget allows us to. This will need to be considered on a case by case basis. We intend to consider sponsorship of events as part of the initial budget process as a routine part of early event planning in the future. This quarter we will be sponsors of LinuxFest Northwest in Bellingham, WA and the SouthEast LinuxFest in Clemson, SC. The latter event will occur in Q2 of our fiscal year. * Events [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents] - cprofitt mentioned possible involvement with an annual event run by the New York State Association for Computers and Technologies in Education http://www.nyscate.org/conferences.cfm - lcafiero talked more about the LFNW FAD's progress and various other items related to LFNW were also discussed - Confirmed NYLUG event with jds2001, all seems ready to go there - LUCI is being rescheduled for the fall * Budget Review [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget] - Hints received and conveyed about dealing with budget issues soon - herlo reports progress on the banner investigation for our event boxes, some designs were discussed, decision from herlo coming soon - dthomasdigital has begun investigation of case badge options, quotes and style options available soon - davdunc volunteered to do the legwork to line up some options for temporary tattoos - will be news on these next week - StabbyMc suggested using ambassador polos as something of a reward, this needs to get some consideration as they certainly would be a reward * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] - No report * Open Floor - StabbyMc shared a wiki page he started about mentoring with us http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/New_Ambassador_Mentor_Program - MadBus asked about ambassadors presenting to OEM vendors which resulted in much discussion about vendor contributions, Fedora on commercially available boxes, and Fedora in K-12 institutions I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight.

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Re: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia Contributor Application
by sunil datta 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

susmit, I have just received a mail which said I have been approved for free media group and that too without doing anything. Now I dont understand which step was missing. I think, You also lack knowledge about how all this stuff work. anyways thanx to you and to all who help me in one way or the other. sunil datta --- On Sun, 5/4/09, susmit shannigrahi <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: susmit shannigrahi <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia Contributor Application > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Cc: "sunil datta" <sunil_prog(a)yahoo.com> > Date: Sunday, 5 April, 2009, 12:11 AM > > Hi, > > > > I think only ambassador group is functional, or at > least freemedia group is non functional. > > > > mostafa.daneshvar(a)gmail.com > said he is also unapproved like me. Anyone else. > > > > I also want to know if there is any group which works > on "how to use fedora". > > > > > > sunil datta > > > > Please go through this page. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Join > Your request is on hold as you havn't completed the > required steps. > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > Sent from Calcutta, WB, India > Get perfect Email ID for your Resume. Grab now http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address

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Re: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia Contributor Application
by sunil datta 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

Hi, I think only ambassador group is functional, or at least freemedia group is non functional. mostafa.daneshvar(a)gmail.com said he is also unapproved like me. Anyone else. I also want to know if there is any group which works on "how to use fedora". sunil datta --- On Sat, 4/4/09, Mostafa Daneshvar <mostafa.daneshvar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: Mostafa Daneshvar <mostafa.daneshvar(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia Contributor Application > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Date: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 9:51 PM > On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 21:40 +0530, > sunil datta wrote: > > Then why my status is still unapproved. > > For me it's unapproved also. > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/

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Re: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia Contributor Application
by sunil datta 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

Then why my status is still unapproved. Sunil Datta --- On Sat, 4/4/09, Jason Benedict Low <jbenedictlow(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: Jason Benedict Low <jbenedictlow(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia Contributor Application > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Date: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 9:34 PM > > > sunil datta wrote: > > Is it mandatory to submit ssh key before joining > freemedia group.. > > > No need that. > > -- Best Regards, > Jason > Singapore Fedora Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low > VoIP = sip:jasonbenedict@fedoraproject.org > ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody > stare. ------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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Re: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia Contributor Application
by sunil datta 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

Is it mandatory to submit ssh key before joining freemedia group. sunil datta --- On Sat, 4/4/09, Jason Benedict Low <jbenedictlow(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: Jason Benedict Low <jbenedictlow(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FreeMedia Contributor Application > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Date: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 9:16 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Arunava Chatterjee wrote: > > > > > Hey > guys, > > I'd like > to sign up to be a > contributor for FreeMedia requests in the > > Kolkata region > India. What i > am supposed to do. > > as > well. > > > > Regards > > Arunava > > > > > Wonderful. I started out as contributor for FreeMedia. See > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Join > go this url > and read all about it. If you have further questions, the > contact is > also listed in the page. > > -- > Best Regards, > Jason > Singapore Fedora Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low > VoIP = sip:jasonbenedict@fedoraproject.org > ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody > stare. ------ > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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FreeMedia Contributor Application
by Arunava Chatterjee 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

Hey guys, I'd like to sign up to be a contributor for FreeMedia requests in the Kolkata region India. What i am supposed to do. as well. Regards Arunava Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/

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FreeMedia Contributor Application
by Santosh Kumar 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

Hey guys, I'd like to sign up to be a contributor for FreeMedia requests in the Southwest US region. I've just applied online for Free Media Program Group as well. Regards Santosh

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Please take care of freemedia requests for the Month of April, 2009.
by susmit shannigrahi 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

Hi, The freemedia form has just been closed for the month of April. Please go to https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/report and take care of the tickets from your respective regions. The operating procedure is given here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeMedia_Infrastructure_SOP Please note, you will not be able to access the trac if you are not a member of freemedia FAS group. If you are not in the group and interested in contributing, please apply for it and the freemedia mailing list at the same time. Thank you all for your contribution to Fedora FreeMedia. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from: Calcutta Wb India. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India

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Re: Fedora on German television (Re: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: [FOSDEM]FOSDEM 2009 Recordings])
by David Anderson 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

It requires Windows Media Player to view, and takes a while if you can get it to load... -david. >2009/3/29 Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert(a)googlemail.com>: >> Am Sonntag, den 29.03.2009, 14:21 -0400 schrieb Yaakov Nemoy: >>> 2009/3/28 Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert(a)googlemail.com>: >>> > Am Samstag, den 28.03.2009, 12:43 +0100 schrieb Gerold Kassube: >>> >> FYI >>> > >>> > >>> > BTW: We were also on TV last weekend: >>> > http://www.3sat.de/mediathek/mediathek.php?obj=11913 >>> > >>> > Some scenes of the video were recorded at the Fedora booth, one can see >>> > Jörg Simon and a couple of other ambassadors. I also managed to get 3 >>> > seconds of attention with my talk. Thanks to Fedora for making me a >>> > famous TV star. ;) >>> >>> I can't get it to load. Is this content only available in Germany/EU? >> >> I don't think so, it just takes a while. You could try a different >> format though by changing the settings ("Einstellungen"). Does one of >> these links work you you? >> http://wstreaming.zdf.de/3sat/veryhigh/090315_linux_neues.asx >> http://hstreaming.zdf.de/3sat/veryhigh/090315_linux_neues.mov >> >rtsp://ondemand.quicktime.zdf.newmedia.nacamar.net/zdf/data/quicktime/3sat/… >3/090315_linux_neues_vh.mp4 > >Nope, each of these links just gives me a movie of zero length. It's very >strange. > >-Yaakov > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

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FUDCon LATAM
by Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

Hello guys! The FUDCON Latam organization has been started! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDConLATAM2009 -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com

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Fedora: Chronicle of a Server Break-in
by Amit Caleechurn 03 Apr '09

03 Apr '09

http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/fedora_chronicle_of_a_server_brea…

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 03 Apr '09

03 Apr '09

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcameron from Canada https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nishanth from India Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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IRC Ambassador channel - Meeting reservation -
by Frederic Hornain 03 Apr '09

03 Apr '09

Dear *, Just a trivial question. Do a sub-Fedora Ambassadors group have to reserve a slot in order to use the Ambassador channel ? Thanks for your help. Best Regards Frederic ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open(a)laptop.org

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Fedora Classroom: April 4-5, 2009 - We need your presentations
by Clint Savage 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

Well, it’s that time of the month again, this coming weekend April 4 & 5 will be the sessions for the Fedora Classroom[1]. This month’s sessions are perfect for those in Europe, the Middle East and Asia. Give a Presentation If you are interested in helping us out with a presentation on anything related to Fedora or Free Software, we’d love to see it in the Fedora Classroom this weekend. If you are not familiar with the MediaWiki syntax, just add a note on the wiki page or contact Kevin Fenzi (nirik) or me (herlo). New MC In addition, we have a new Master of Ceremonies for this session. Max Spevack will head this up and help keep things on time. We’d like to thank him for performing this vital service. More Volunteers Needed * If you are interested in helping out with the IRC logs * We need you help us to spread the word about upcoming Fedora Classroom events. o Blog about it o Tell your friends o Invite someone to teach a class If you can help or know someone who can help, feel free to contact either Kevin Fenzi (nirik) or me (herlo) and we’ll give you the low down. Cheers, Clint 1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom

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Campus Ambassador Presentation: Introduction to Infrastructure
by Adam Miller 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

Last Wednesday I gave a presentation on campus to our computer science department student organization over the Fedora Infrastructure and I have finally created time to sit down and do a write up. http://pseudogen.blogspot.com/2009/04/campus-ambassador-presentation.html Thanks to all those who have helped me along the way, I hope to be able to continue to spread Fedora! -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments

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FAmNA Meeting Reminder
by inode0 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

Sorry for the late notice this week but we are having a FAmNA meeting this evening at the usual time and place. Please join us if you can. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings John

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Re: the microcosm
by Alex 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

Hey, thanks so much for reaching out Troy! Did you have a chance to check out the "Fedora Ambassadors" page? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors If not, let me tell you in a few words what we do. We go to all sorts of places and events where we can meet people and educate them about the value of open source software and get them involved in the community--be it as users or contributors. There are a few resources already available, such as standard presentation decks you can adapt for yourself, and some posters and signs you can print. Recently, we launched the Ambassador Kits, which include all the essentials that a starting Ambassador can use to begin evangelizing Fedora... There is so much out there, I have a hard time picking stuff to list here. I am copying the Fedora Ambassadors list, to which I encourage you to subscribe and use the energy and know-how of thousands of Ambassadors all around the world to help you promote Fedora. Please let me know if you have more questions/ideas/etc--I will be glad to help! Cheers, Alex On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Troy Large <troyatlarge(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I live in Ely, Nevada, USA, third rock from the sun - in general it is > a town in the middle of nowhere (we have a local shirt - Ely NV., 394 > miles round trip to Wal-Mart). In this town in middle of nowhere we > have a store that deals with computers and there needs. I've spent a > fair amount of time there and see a real potential for advocating > Linux systems, for sure at the level of home users and possibly at the > level of networked applications in work environments. One of the most > telling issues for this is the number of people showing up with bad > problems in their Microsoft systems - Vista being a dog and people > waiting to upgrade until Microsoft has something other than vista. > > Because of security problems, the computer at that business, which > allows people on-line access for free, makes use of Linux (Ubuntu) , > which has stopped the constant stream of virus attacks which > constantly bugged the network prior to the using Linux. > > All the same, there is no splashy eye catching display advocating and > promoting the use of Linux systems, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc., with all the > big pros in using such system - free - relatively secure - etc. This > lead me to think, why not put one in the store - something eye > catching that makes perfect use of everything in rhetorical strategy > has to offer as well as the utmost in creative marketing. Yet when I > look into that, to find examples of it, I thus far have found nothing > - NOT GOOD! > > Second, I have also locally noticed a very real aspect which needs > addressing as well. The local economy and state economy has gone in > the toilet - the state thus is talking about getting rid of teachers - > in turn the students are out protesting against cutting education. > When I spoke to the kids about the dollars the state spends giving to > Microsoft, they where found to be completely receptive to the idea of > using Linux as though they had been preconditioned for it. I am > guessing that news of cutting everyone who works, combined with news > of having the workers pay big bankers bonuses, and other news > supporting the mega wealth at the expense of common folks, has left > the kids receptive to going against government handing big boys huge > dollars - although that is just a guess. In any event I strongly > suspect that presently we a youth open to free ware like we have never > had before - to not make use of such a phenomena would be a true > shame. > > With all that said - I now ask, are there ready to go advertising sets > for use in local stores which advocate Fedora, or Linux in general? If > so, where may I view such packets. Are there any projects that focus > directly on the youth population in terms of advocating Linux ? > > Troy Large > -- AMaier Art and Photography http://amaier.net

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Linux Open Week - Event Report
by Ankur Sinha 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

hi, Event reports regarding the Linux Open Week that we (LUG Manipal) conducted :: http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/2009/03/30/event-report-linux-open-week/ http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/photos-linux-open-week/ The event had Fedora Ambassadors from Manipal : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/India/Regions#Karnataka Suyash Kumar Saahil Dhananjay Singh Ankur Srivastava Ankur Sinha It featured a fedora 10 install fest and a week of hands on workshops on fedora systems. Comments are welcome, regards, Ankur

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Open Source program :FOSS
by Rachit Gupta 02 Apr '09

02 Apr '09

Dear ambassadors, I am rachit gupta , Fedora ambassador of VIT University,Vellore,I have recently joined fedora ambassador program, i wish to launch a three day event dedicated to FOSS.i termed it FOSS-Kriti Following will be the highlights of the event : - day 1: introduction to fedora-Aim and objectives , covering basic idea of Open Source.this will be followed by fedora installation camp which will run for all the three day. - day 2: bringing the developers and linux newbies together , this session will have seminars and guest lectures from linux experts from industry and educational institute.session will start with comparing features and powers of linux and other operating system.some most hot topic of open source technology and open source source software support. - day 3: dedicated to give some hands on experience to linux newbies, session will include Linux kernel hack workshop and beagle hack workshop. event planning is under progress. This event will be conducted in VIT University Vellore Tentiative dates : 10th,11th and 12th april. We will be requiring aprox 50 fedora DVD,respected authority please guide me , to get resources early in advance.conformation about he event will be mailed soon with event schedule. It will be very gr8 if other regional ambassador , near to Vellore, India could join us. Any suggestions and ideas are most welcome... Regards, Rachit gupta B.Tech (CSE) VIT University,Vellore Fedora Ambassador,Vellore region https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rachitgupta contact: +91-9952390139 skype: rachit.tech irc : rachit

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Reminder -- EMEA IRC meeting (Wed Apr 1 @ 2000 UTC)
by Max Spevack 01 Apr '09

01 Apr '09

EMEA Ambassadors, We'll have our monthly IRC meeting on Wednesday at 2200 CEST (2000 UTC). https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-04-01 Please see the agenda above, and add any topics you wish to discuss. I know that many in the French team are at Linux Solutions, so we'll understand if they can't make the meeting tonight. Thanks, Max

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Toorcamp 2009
by Yaakov Nemoy 01 Apr '09

01 Apr '09

Hey List (again), Modeled after the European style hacker camps, the folks from Toorcon are organizing a similar experience for us Yanks in Washington state. Even cooler is that it's going to be at a former missile silo. If anyone is willing to go, check out the following link: http://toorcamp.org/ It is extremely unlikely that i will be going, but maybe someone wants to pick this up and set up a Fedora presence? -Yaakov

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HAR 2009 lowers ticket prices and extends deadline
by Yaakov Nemoy 01 Apr '09

01 Apr '09

Hey All, Today (and this is no April Fools joke) the people at HAR 2009 announced that the early bird sale has been extended for two weeks, due to high ticket sales. They are also lowering the final price to 185 euros. They have already sold over 1000 tickets, and they are aiming for about 2000 ticket sales by the time the event begins in August. For Americans who have recently found out about this, Nick Farr will be organizing Hackers on a Plane. I can't say more personally about it, but there is more information in the link below. Finally, there is still time to submit a paper. If anyone is willing to present something Fedora related, i will try to see if we can find funding for you to come to this event. I cannot stress enough how diverse of a crowd will be at this event, and how much of a valuable experience it can be. If you are unable to travel so far, there is a similar camp that has been announced recently for the American crowd, called Toorcamp 2009. I will post information about it shortly. You can read more about this in the following announcement. https://har2009.org/post/final-sale-two-more-weeks-april-14th-absolute-bott… -Yaakov

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Re: [Ambassadors] Mentors, Sponsors, etc...
by sunil datta 01 Apr '09

01 Apr '09

Hi to all Ambassadors, Myself Sunil from India. First I would like to tell you that I removed myself from Ambassadors list, a day after I was allowed to be Ambassador. I hope they who are crying for inactive Ambassador issue will be happy. If you have read below there were few lines: "who have no idea how to contribute" Better if you call can work on this issue. One more clue, you can mail them asking, why are they inactive for such a long period, before deleting them(if you are thinking of deleting them). Asking is important because there may be great ideas which fedora may loose just because no one was there to guide and give a first gear to those ideas. Second clue, what anyone will get or achieve being a Ambassador of Fedora? (I think someone asked me). My problem, I tried to be a member to provide free media in my region, but still see myself unapproved status. I dont know who will explain this. regards, Sunil Datta www.opensourcenuts.com --- On Wed, 1/4/09, David Anderson <dca(a)projectcellular.com> wrote: From: David Anderson <dca(a)projectcellular.com> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Mentors, Sponsors, etc... To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com Date: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009, 7:25 PM All good points, on the "too many inactive Ambassador" front I see no issues removing them. If being a member of ANYTHING (LUG, AAA, YMCA, Fedora) simply requires you to just login every once in a while to say "hello", update a Wiki, or anything within 90days or whatever to remain an active member is no big deal. Is there a place within FAS that allows you to cancel your Ambassadorship, delete/remove FAS account or anything? Granted the issue we're having is because people won't delete themselves simply because they have no spare time to dedicate to Fedora. If the team is growing too large than another alternative is to continue the regional breakdown of Ambassadors. Is there a 'fedora-list' mailer for regions? ie: fedora-ambassador-list-NA for North America or fedora-list-EU, or fedora-list etc that would be dedicated to the newer members. The only reason I say, some of the members from India have some great ideas for getting things going in their colleges, cafes, etc, but I really wouldn't know how to help them any further because I don't know what works in their area. Mine is an predominantly MS area, so it's tough. Conventions are limited as well and finding colleges in the area that can help promote is kind of like pulling teeth because they only teach MS & Java... Back to the regions idea: by region we can all talk amongst ourselves, the Regional ambassadors if the topic is important can forward the discussion from region to global for total input. I wish I had ideas on the 'barrier to entry' scheme but until the 'inactive' issue is resolved, I don't know... -david. >Hi All, > >until now i tried to back off from this topic, because i'm a so called >"Ambassador Newbie" myself. > >But since there were some interessting postings, i could not longer hold >off. >And just to make it clear: I don't want to offend several people here on >the list, i just want to say a few words. > >First, i totally dislike the suggested "point system" (like "Beeing at a >event -> +100pts). >Remember, beeing Fedora Ambassador doesn't mean to be a hero in a MMORPG >where you can earn Experience Points for succesfully finishing quests. >I don't want to come to a a point in future, where i pay someone 200€ to >get a eminently respected 100.000 Ambassador Points worthy Fedora >Ambassador identity (or avatar). > >And there is another critic point at this method. Who decides, wich >activity drops how many points? >I mean i can stay for 2 weeks on an event or convention and tell all >people about fedora. What if (i know it is exaggerated but it is just an >example) everyone i talk to on the event already knows Fedora, >contributes already to another distro and is absolutely not interessted >in my "drivel"? >Then, my spent time was without succes, and i should get 0 points, >because i have achieved nothing. >But if i convince 3 friends of mine to use fedora (and offer them >support) (wich i did in my few weeks as Ambassador now) do i now get 300 >points (for just much less hours of engagement)? > >The point is: No matter what someone does or doesn't, no one here is >able to rate his engagement in points. > > >Another suggestion was to send every month (or every half year e.g.) a >validation mail. This would be more acceptable to me than the points >system, but it is still unsatisfying. There would be too much troubles >and sentences like "oh, please give me my Ambassador Status back, i >haven't known anything from the mail, you know, my Spam filter...". >Maybe i'm a bit pessimistic, but in my experience, it is always the same. > > >I think, the main problem and reason for this debate is: We have many >Ambassadors, many inactive and every week a few new Ambassadors. > >Problem A): Too many inactive Ambassadors. > >The Validation mail is as i said not the best method. And it has another >disadvantage. You can be as inactive as you want, as long as you answer >a short "i'm still active" mail to the mailing list. > >Problem B): Too many new Ambassadors who become inactive after a few >days/weeks/months and who have no idea how to contribute. > >I think it is also our topic to tell new fedora people, how and where >they can start contributing. If we don't manage this task inside the >Ambassador the team, how can we handle it for the rest of the Fedora >Project? >So my idea would be, to spend time with talking to new ambassadors about >their abilities and give them some hints where they can start >contributing with their abilities. >For example, Joerg read, that i'm a ongoing social/cultural >anthropologist stressed on central asia, so he introduced me to Mirlan >(i wrote him already a mail, waiting for his response). >Maybe it would be helpful to create a mindmap wich clearly describes the >organization of the Fedora Project with all ways of contributing. >Also we maybe should concentrate some work on the New Ambassadors Guide >someone here works at (sorry, i forgot who exactly it was). > >Just my 2 cents. >Yannik > > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Re: [Ambassadors] Mentors, Sponsors, etc...
by David Anderson 01 Apr '09

01 Apr '09

All good points, on the "too many inactive Ambassador" front I see no issues removing them. If being a member of ANYTHING (LUG, AAA, YMCA, Fedora) simply requires you to just login every once in a while to say "hello", update a Wiki, or anything within 90days or whatever to remain an active member is no big deal. Is there a place within FAS that allows you to cancel your Ambassadorship, delete/remove FAS account or anything? Granted the issue we're having is because people won't delete themselves simply because they have no spare time to dedicate to Fedora. If the team is growing too large than another alternative is to continue the regional breakdown of Ambassadors. Is there a 'fedora-list' mailer for regions? ie: fedora-ambassador-list-NA for North America or fedora-list-EU, or fedora-list etc that would be dedicated to the newer members. The only reason I say, some of the members from India have some great ideas for getting things going in their colleges, cafes, etc, but I really wouldn't know how to help them any further because I don't know what works in their area. Mine is an predominantly MS area, so it's tough. Conventions are limited as well and finding colleges in the area that can help promote is kind of like pulling teeth because they only teach MS & Java... Back to the regions idea: by region we can all talk amongst ourselves, the Regional ambassadors if the topic is important can forward the discussion from region to global for total input. I wish I had ideas on the 'barrier to entry' scheme but until the 'inactive' issue is resolved, I don't know... -david. >Hi All, > >until now i tried to back off from this topic, because i'm a so called >"Ambassador Newbie" myself. > >But since there were some interessting postings, i could not longer hold >off. >And just to make it clear: I don't want to offend several people here on >the list, i just want to say a few words. > >First, i totally dislike the suggested "point system" (like "Beeing at a >event -> +100pts). >Remember, beeing Fedora Ambassador doesn't mean to be a hero in a MMORPG >where you can earn Experience Points for succesfully finishing quests. >I don't want to come to a a point in future, where i pay someone 200€ to >get a eminently respected 100.000 Ambassador Points worthy Fedora >Ambassador identity (or avatar). > >And there is another critic point at this method. Who decides, wich >activity drops how many points? >I mean i can stay for 2 weeks on an event or convention and tell all >people about fedora. What if (i know it is exaggerated but it is just an >example) everyone i talk to on the event already knows Fedora, >contributes already to another distro and is absolutely not interessted >in my "drivel"? >Then, my spent time was without succes, and i should get 0 points, >because i have achieved nothing. >But if i convince 3 friends of mine to use fedora (and offer them >support) (wich i did in my few weeks as Ambassador now) do i now get 300 >points (for just much less hours of engagement)? > >The point is: No matter what someone does or doesn't, no one here is >able to rate his engagement in points. > > >Another suggestion was to send every month (or every half year e.g.) a >validation mail. This would be more acceptable to me than the points >system, but it is still unsatisfying. There would be too much troubles >and sentences like "oh, please give me my Ambassador Status back, i >haven't known anything from the mail, you know, my Spam filter...". >Maybe i'm a bit pessimistic, but in my experience, it is always the same. > > >I think, the main problem and reason for this debate is: We have many >Ambassadors, many inactive and every week a few new Ambassadors. > >Problem A): Too many inactive Ambassadors. > >The Validation mail is as i said not the best method. And it has another >disadvantage. You can be as inactive as you want, as long as you answer >a short "i'm still active" mail to the mailing list. > >Problem B): Too many new Ambassadors who become inactive after a few >days/weeks/months and who have no idea how to contribute. > >I think it is also our topic to tell new fedora people, how and where >they can start contributing. If we don't manage this task inside the >Ambassador the team, how can we handle it for the rest of the Fedora >Project? >So my idea would be, to spend time with talking to new ambassadors about >their abilities and give them some hints where they can start >contributing with their abilities. >For example, Joerg read, that i'm a ongoing social/cultural >anthropologist stressed on central asia, so he introduced me to Mirlan >(i wrote him already a mail, waiting for his response). >Maybe it would be helpful to create a mindmap wich clearly describes the >organization of the Fedora Project with all ways of contributing. >Also we maybe should concentrate some work on the New Ambassadors Guide >someone here works at (sorry, i forgot who exactly it was). > >Just my 2 cents. >Yannik > > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

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[SEMINAR] CTI, MCA girls MCA college at Gandhinagar, Guajarat
by ElectroMech 01 Apr '09

01 Apr '09

Dear All, We are invited by CTI, MCA girls MCA college at Gandhinagar, to conduct open source workshop for 1 day. http://ddcti.ac.in/ The following topics were covered. Installation of Linux. Basic Linux Command. Package management with Yum. Package management with Pirut. Using regional language like GUJARATI. Basic / Introduction of MYSQL. Basic Introduction of PHP. There was good discussion about. #What is open source? #What is linux ? #Present , Past and Future of open source. #Opportunity with open source. We are thanks to the management of CTI, Gandhinagar for Inviting us. We also thanks to all Faculty members and staff of MCA. Some photographs will be uploaded soon. -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info

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Mentors, Sponsors, etc...
by Leam Hall 01 Apr '09

01 Apr '09

As a new member to the Ambassadors mailing list, may I offer the "Outsider moving in" view? In both business and military careers I have seen measurable advantage in providing a new group member a "sponsor". Small problems that can overwhelm the newbie are quickly resolved because the sponsor knows where to find the answer. Joining a group and integrating in can be emotionally exhausting for those of us who are introverts. It is very important to have a 1:1 person we can discuss with and talk to when the 1:700 overwhelms us. Beyond the "how much do I know about Fedora" question you might want to know what I *feel* about it before you send me off to represent it! If an Ambassador is to be a person with some field experience then they probably come with a few opinions as well. Maybe some baggage, too. The FA program might want to ensure the potential representatives are in fact representing Fedora well. There is also a significant advantage in having a Mentor actually find out what I know, or do with my time. For example, if I do some volunteer work it might spark some conversations about how I can introduce Fedora to the non-profit. Or the ham radio group. Or the sports group that needs some scoring software help. Or the adoption service that could use a webserver group. A Mentor might even be useful to find out what latent talents I'd love to develop and hook me up with someone who can help my progress. That way the other person gets an apprentice, Fedora gets a welcome worker, and I get some personal growth. While having some small conversations with David and Joerg neither of them have proposed a requirement to join that really bothers me. The clarity of the process could be improved and Joerg has responded well in that. David has made himself available for local events and put forth a good image for Fedora. In both cases there has been a social exchange based on equality. They listen to me, I listen to them, and I have come to trust their opinions based on the interactions we've had. Both Joerg and David have earned my respect and now are free to provide critique if I need to evaluate some personal behavior before representing Fedora to the world. If there is a process to go through before becoming a full privileged Ambassador, I have no problems doing so. Call me a Diplomat, an Ambassador in Training, or just a flunkey; it doesn't matter. But show me by your willingness to invest in me that I'm important and that by association Fedora is important. You will then get a clear view of what I can provide and have a motivated worker on your team. Leam

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mentorship, sponsorship, etc.
by Max Spevack 01 Apr '09

01 Apr '09

Hi all, I warn you in advance that this is a very long email. There's been a discussion on famsco-list for the last week and a half now, and I volunteered to try to summarize some of that conversation, so that we could move it to fedora-ambassadors-list. The main topics of the discussion center around these three points: * Purging of inactive Ambassadors * Mentoring * Raising the standard for membership === The thread was started by David Nalley, and his initial email brought up the following: The "probation" idea for Fedora Ambassadors is flawed, and can be improved. Improving it will help raise the overall quality and effectiveness of Fedora Ambassadors. In particular, David advocated for the following: 1) Fixed term for probation should go away, and be replaced with a specific set of tasks that need to be achieved. 2) If someone makes no progress in X amount of time, we purge them from the system. If they are making progress, then give as much time as is needed. 3) New Ambassadors should immediately be given a mentor -- a specific name of an Ambassador in their region. 4) Current restrictions on getting resources as an Ambassador while on probation should go away, and be replaced with "at your mentor's discretion". Max's note #1: This begins to lay out what looks like a more formal sponsorship process for Ambassadors, which is similar to the sort of thing that happens in the Fedora Package Maintainers community. Max's note #2: As Fedora Ambassadors continues to grow, a sponsorship process becomes more and more critical, and Package Maintainers has set a good example and precedent. === Francesco Ugolini commented that we want to continue to ensure that resources are managed regionally (which is consistent with David's proposal), and that one important task will be to ensure that *whatever* the requirements are on new people who want to join Ambassadors, it be as clear, and as internationalized, as possible. Max's note #3: In Ambassadors in particular, it's important for us to try to simplify and clarify policy as much as possible. The number of languages on our list and in our sub-project is very large, even compared to other parts of Fedora (perhaps with the exception of Localization). === Thomas Canniot expressed concerns with the mentorship idea. He was not "against" it, but wanted more discussion and some "convincing". Now I'm going to list the three points that Thomas made, as well as some of the conversation that came after each of these points in the email thread. (1) There are two types of Ambassadors -- the already-active Ambassadors around the world who don't need any mentorship, and the Ambassadors who do need mentorship and guidance. David Nalley responded to this point by saying that some of the older Ambassadors didn't have anything like a mentor and had to figure out and build the current structure by trial and error. Now that we have a chance to be more efficient with training and mentorship, shouldn't we take that opportunity? David said that he'd categorize Ambassadors instead as "those who take ownership of something" and "those who don't know that they *can* take ownership of something", and that we want to move people from the second group into the first group. He also went on to say (and I'm adding in a bit of my own thoughts here also) that one of the goals of the Ambassadors project needs to be ensuring that new Ambassadors realize quickly that they play a crucial role in Fedora, and that they have tremendous power to represent Fedora, and that it is also very important that Ambassadors understand and believe in the main principles of Fedora -- the four foundations, for example, and what they mean. (2) We don't need mentorship until the growth of Ambassadors slows down. Max's note #4: I think the rate at which we are getting new Ambassadors clearly demonstrates that mentorship is needed now, because QUALITY is far more important than QUANTITY. I don't want to be signing up new Ambassadors if only 1 in 10 is developing into true stars and leaders in the Ambassadors community. (3) Adding in mentorship and sponsorship suggests that we don't believe people can reach the same level of success as some of the older Ambassadors without help, and that is disappointing. Max's note #5: Personally, I disagree with this. The ability to have a mentor or a sponsor (who serves as a mentor) is a luxury, not a sign of lack-of-confidence. As David Nalley said: "The Ambassadors are representatives of the Fedora Project; They are the spokespeople and the public face for Fedora. What concerns me is that we essentially have these representatives that may know precious little about Fedora and free software, and the penchant for misrepresenting is high. I personally like our low barrier to entry. At the same time I think that it is incumbent upon us (FAmSCo) to provide the background education to the uninitiated if we are serious about our responsibilities the Ambassadors project and plant to continue having a low barrier to entry. As has been noted previously in this email, the Package Maintainers team provides an excellent example of this, as does the Art team. === Joerg Simon responded with an email promoting the virtues of mentoring, with specific examples from his own time in Fedora, both the people who helped to mentor him (Chitlesh & Gerold) as well as the people who he has helped to mentor (Mirlan & Thibault). "Trust and Mentoring is the Key!", says Joerg, and I agree with him. David Nalley notes that we don't want to devalue what it means to be a Fedora Ambassador by not having enough structure. Max adds that it is not simply enough to say "I think Fedora is great!" but rather that Ambassadors serve a specific, and crucial role in our community. We give our Ambassadors tremendous amounts of freedom and trust to be the public face of Fedora, and therefore there is a requirement to provide some level of "quality control" and oversight. In short, Fedora Ambassadors is not a social club. === A specific proposed action by Joerg is to clean up the FAS group for Fedora Ambassadors. David Nalley agreed, saying: "This is an ideal time to do so - with the recent password reset I'd guess that 30% or more of the people in the Ambassador fas group have their fas account inactive due to failing to change their password. I'd argue that we should give them 30 days (~April 6th iirc) and if their account is still inactive in FAS we should jettison them. They clearly aren't active if they haven't had to use their fedora account (or missing the fedora email addy) over a period of 30 days. That's a better indication IMO than any 'I'm here' message." Susmit and Francesco both gave a +1 to this, as did Rodrigo, who went a step further and said that in LATAM, he plans to have a personal conversation with all people who want to be Ambassadors. === A specific proposal for a FAmSCo vote was suggested by David: ""That FAmSCo direct the Ambassador Membership Service to request from Infrastructure a list of all users who are Ambassadors and whose account has remained inactive for a period of greater than 30 days after a password reset, and further that FAmSCo direct the Membership Service to purge said users from the Ambassadors list" Fedora Infrastructure ran a query for us, which showed that of the 772 Ambassadors in FAS, 300 were inactive based on the statement above. Max's note #6: For me, this sets off major alarm bells, and goes back to the idea of quantity versus quality. The Ambassadors numbers grow, but they are inflated because most of the people are joining the group because they want to basically join the Fedora Fan Club, and this is the closest thing that we have to that, but the purpose of Ambassadors is not to be a Fan Club. Thomas Canniot agreed that this set off alarm bells for him to, and conceded that some cleanup of the FAS group is clearly necessary. Susmit notes that a mixture of automated and manual cleanup processes would be the best, to prevent false positives or other mistakes that could lead to hurting the feelings of an important community member. Joerg states that he is in favor of cleaning up inactive accounts, and coupling that with a higher barrier to entry for the Ambassadors project. David agrees, and wonders why we are taking so long to make what seems like an obviously right decision. Francesco notes that a decision is made, but that another opportunity for full discussion among Ambassadors is required, which is what this email that I have been writing attempts to lay out and summarize. === David Nalley notes that Fedora Infrastructure might already be planning some sort of action for people whose accounts remain inactive past a password reset, because there is a potential security issue for having dormant accounts, with various permissions, just sitting around. Perhaps our problem of inactivity will be solved by a larger problem of inactivity across Fedora that needs to be addressed. Max's note #7: Solving the inactivity problem and the mentorship problem are two different things!!! === Max's note #8: It seems to me that the actions on the table for FAmSCo to ultimately deal with are: (1) Dealing with inactive accounts, either within our sub-project itself or within the whole of Fedora Infrastructure. (2) Reforming our barriers-to-entry and sponsorship process to remove time limits, but to require specific actions and a show of progress. (3) Putting together a mentorship/sponsorship system similar to that of Package Maintainers.

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