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Re: [Ambassadors] CD / DVD stickers needed
by Vali Cobelea 17 Nov '15

17 Nov '15

Hi, Thank you for this info, I'm planning several short presentations about Fedora Project at the University of Galati, Romania, and I did not know from where / how to get Fedora 11 CDs / DVDs. Valente

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Re: [Ambassadors] FAmNA meetings going forward
by Scott Seiersen 13 Oct '10

13 Oct '10

I may be able to do the meetings for November. -Scott

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F12 talking points are out!
by Mel Chua 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

The F12 talking points have been released, and are ready for use (and improvement!) Many thanks to Steven Moix, Paul Frields, and Jon Roberts for their hard work. Talking points (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points) are key features of the new release that we want to point out. There are different types of talking points for different types of people: users, developers, sysadmins, and more. They are meant to answer the question "so what cool stuff is in the latest release of Fedora?" Reading the talking points should get someone who's *not* necessarily already a member of the Fedora community excited. (This is something that I think the talking points could still use some help with; which ones are unclear? Which ones don't get you as excited yet?) Please take a look at the talking points and think about how you'd like to use them for F12 outreach - and if you can think of a better way of phrasing something, or think something should be improved, please let us know (or use the wiki and just make the change yourself). Ambassadors in particular: how can we turn these talking points into marketing materials that will help you spread the word? --Mel

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Heads up students. Time for Fedora Scholarship.
by susmit shannigrahi 17 Feb '10

17 Feb '10

Pretty well described. http://blog.melchua.com/2009/12/22/going-to-college-next-year-time-to-apply… -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

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BASIS SoftExpo 2010
by mak 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

Dear All, Hope you are doing fine. I'm one of the Fedora Ambassador from Bangladesh and is involved with a volunteer group named Ankur[0]; my colleague (Jamil Ahmed) is the l10n maintainer[1] for Bengali(bn_BD). My organization is involved with l10n project and Spreading FOSS in Bangladesh for last several years. You will be glad to know that we are attending annual Software Exhibition 2010 [2] arranged by Bangladesh Association of Software and Information Services (BASIS) [3]. It will be held between February 10-14, 2010. More than 200 exhibitors and over 300,000 visitors and delegates are expected to participate and attend this 5 day long exposition. We will demonstrate and distribute Bengali localized Linux Distributions and FOSS - which includes Fedora12. We are developing Bangla user manuals with localized screenshots - which will be distributed in this event too. We are planning to distribute a large number of DVD, Stickers, Flyer throughout the 5 day exhibition - as far as we can afford. It will be a great help if we have your support. I've updated my event in FY10 Q4 [4]. Please let us know the possibility. Regards, Mahay Alam Khan (mak) Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh. [0] http://www.ankur.org.bd [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Teams [2] http://www.softexpo.com.bd [3] http://www.basis.org.bd [4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q4_.28December_2009_-_February_20…

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Re: [Ambassadors] Links and Logs Fedora Ambassador NA meeting yesterday TEXAS update and my $0.02
by David Duncan 09 Feb '10

09 Feb '10

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:56 AM, scott mcbrien <smcbrien(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, wanted to provide the links to the meeting details from last night. <snip! > > 02:21:03 <cwtucker> Texas indeed > 02:21:03 <cwtucker> VileGent: yes, sorry internet issues for a min > 02:21:09 <inode0> oh, not on the events page > 02:21:17 <VileGent> exactly > 02:21:35 <StabbyMc> inode0: what is the purpose of a Fedora Ambassador Day? > 02:21:39 <inode0> I'm sure it just isn't there yet > 02:21:51 <xm4nfedoralinux> so we are still on the events before Texas > Linux Fest? > 02:22:03 <inode0> xm4nfedoralinux: yes, hold on > 02:22:15 <xm4nfedoralinux> ok. brb <snip!> > 02:25:01 <inode0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Texas:LinuxFest_2010 > 02:25:08 <mock> makfinsky: the cake is a lie > 02:25:28 <inode0> We are going to have a nice presence at the 1st > Texas Linux Fest I hope > 02:25:54 <inode0> Anyone interested should sign up and chat with me or > David Duncan (davdunc) about helping Apologies for not making the meeting. I have a class that ends just after the meeting begins. > 02:26:10 <cwtucker> Definitely interested, and will be involved > 02:26:17 <inode0> CFP is in progress now so if you plan to go please > consider proposing a talk > 02:27:00 <inode0> I have set aside 400 pieces of F12 media to ship to > TLF pending talking to David about the appropriateness of that number > 02:28:08 <inode0> We need the ground troops to tell us what is needed > in terms of other swag and booth help I spoke with the coordinators just yesterday. They have two ticket prices and the higher price ticket comes with a goodie bag. They have requested that we contribute a flier for the bag if we can and possibly some stickers. They are expecting the ticket price with schwag to be affordable, probably around $45 for the whole thing. I did not find an updated flier at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer#Fedora_Marketing_-_Fl… perhaps there is somewhere else to look? > 02:28:14 <cwtucker> Expecting a fairly large turnout > 02:28:16 <inode0> We will definitely have a booth .org booth fee is $100.00. Standard booth fee is $500.00 I assume we are going to submit for the former? > 02:28:59 <VileGent> is a event box or banners needed > 02:29:12 <inode0> on a tangent to TLF I'd like to encourage people > there to nose around and make as many contacts as possible with a site > for a future FUDCon in mind :) will do. Matt Domsch has been really helpful to me and has offered a lot of personal support for organizing this. I suggest the same location where the Lone Star Ruby Conference has been held in the past, the Norris Conference Center. They have reasonable rates and a very helpful staff and catering. > 02:29:22 <cwtucker> I will get with David and see where/what he needs > me to do to help him Thanks cwtucker. I believe that our responsiblities will lie in booth setup and participation on the floor. The conference really needs paper submissions. 45 and 25 minute presentations are ideal. If anyone would like to present, that would be super. > 02:30:00 <inode0> Austin always comes up as a place for FUDCon and the > one thing that seems to hold it back is not having a suitable site for > the event itself > 02:30:51 <inode0> shall we move on? > 02:36:31 <threethirty> inode0: good point, South By would be a good > place to show off what we (royal we) do > 02:36:53 <inode0> it is a bunch of events and one of the big ones is > the interactive part > 02:36:58 <threethirty> StabbyMc: its expanded to many other things but > yes its *that* sxsw > 02:37:09 <inode0> http://sxsw.com/interactive > 02:37:30 <inode0> this would be interesting to designers, right mizmo? > 02:37:53 <mizmo> inode0: absolutely <snip!> > 02:38:05 <inode0> anthro-diana: ping if you are available just chime in here > 02:38:22 <mizmo> it would be a good opportunity to present a case for > free software to the design community > 02:38:28 <mizmo> which we have not done much of > 02:38:28 <anthro-diana> There is a very large design faction and even > a bit of a design tract at the conference > 02:38:50 <ke4qqq> so we could potentially garner talented capable > design contributors?? > 02:38:56 <anthro-diana> I as a designer have attended for the last 2 years > 02:38:58 <anthro-diana> Yes > 02:39:01 <inode0> so this isn't the normal event for us, but it would > promote Fedora, it would benefit Fedora contributors, and it would > reach an audience that is likely sympathetic to us but perhaps not > aware of us I see a lot of big interactive projects hosted on Red Hat and CentOS. I have not seen any on Fedora. Linux is gaining ground in ontology hosting. I think that Fedora is important to them. Is anyone doing something like an OWASP spin or using Fedora-Commons on Fedora? It would be great to see something semantic or security related in our booth. > 02:39:14 <anthro-diana> There is also a large open source contingent there > 02:39:26 <ke4qqq> who is that contingent? > 02:39:36 <anthro-diana> it differs from year to year > 02:39:42 <anthro-diana> not necessary sponsored by any company > 02:39:50 <VileGent> we are to spread fedora even to places that we > might not be the most comfortable > 02:40:05 <threethirty> like macworld :) > 02:40:15 <anthro-diana> There are the usual players as well > 02:40:27 <inode0> actually I think SXSW would be very comfortable with Fedora > 02:40:29 <anthro-diana> but software is definitely a focus > 02:40:51 <inode0> it just isn't a place we normally show up > 02:41:21 <crossbytes> so has someone been to this SXSW it looks very > interesting? > 02:41:30 <xm4nfedoralinux> so who is attending TLF > 02:42:29 <inode0> crossbytes: anthro-diana just talked about attending > 02:42:38 <threethirty> crossbytes: i havent been their personally but > i have follwed it on the net and it looks like a cool event, ive been > wanting to go for years > 02:42:54 <anthro-diana> there is also the side event of Bar Camp Austin > 02:43:03 <inode0> ok, there is a second part of this story ... oops > 02:43:13 <anthro-diana> :) > 02:43:13 <makfinsky> Bar Camp? > 02:43:22 <makfinsky> As in making drinks? > 02:43:46 <inode0> so there is a barcamp we can have a normal presence at > 02:44:16 <inode0> Is everyone ok with spreading our event wings a bit > to try to reach some new audiences? The BarCamp is great here. The problem is that it usually forms and happens within a 2 to 3 week period and it is over in one weekend. Very little planning time from event announcement to start date historically. We need to be ready before they announce - if they do. > 02:44:22 <StabbyMc> bar camp, the concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_camp > 02:44:51 <inode0> http://barcamp.org/BarCampAustin <- last year's link > 02:44:51 <makfinsky> inode0: Agreed. > 02:45:07 <cwtucker> inode0: sounds good > 02:45:43 * inode0 asks mizmo and anthro-diana to come up with a plan :) < snip! > > 02:49:47 <anthro-diana> the barcamp is like the open source version of SXSW > 02:49:50 <StabbyMc> Any other event based items that were not on the agenda? > 02:50:02 <anthro-diana> SXSWi is generally cost prohibitive to many people > 02:50:07 <nullsys> I do have something small, but I dont know how much > it will affect US people. > 02:50:20 <anthro-diana> so a lot of people just go to Austin to attend > the BC that benefits from the overflow of SXSWi <snip! > > 02:50:52 <StabbyMc> anthro-diana: I can see that; travel to Austin > around the time of SxSW is also rather prohibitive. > 02:51:17 <anthro-diana> I've found roommates on Twitter just so that I > could attend :) > 02:51:51 <anthro-diana> My badge is comped this year, so I am already > going, I also have a suite already reserved in hopes to be able to > share it with roommates Travel to Austin around this time must be planned in advance - way in advance. I have had trouble flying to even Birmingham AL during SXSW. AMTrack is an easy ride down from Dallas, though. It has wireless internet all the way. <snip! to end> -- David Duncan Austin, TX RHCA #805007392628032

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Budget Support for Fedora Indonesia
by Alzea Alzea 08 Feb '10

08 Feb '10

Dear Fedora Ambassadors A few days ago we (Fedora Indonesia) had guests from Germany. Mr. Mario Behling of LXDE fundation. He called on us to attend and represent Fedora Indonesia in the event Gnome Asia Summit to be held in Vietnam in November 2010. Honestly we do not have the funds to transport and accommodation costs, we are pure free support community and do not get support funds from any others party. My question, could we get funding for transport and accommodation from Fedora, to attend the Gnome Asia Summit in Vietnam? honest we really wanted to attend the event. as Fedora Indoneisa. Thanks a lot. warm regards. N4is3N(a)Fedora.or.id

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Events calendars
by Paul W. Frields 05 Feb '10

05 Feb '10

We have a wiki page for other events calendars: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Linux_Events I added http://fossevents.org/ to that page. But the page could use some Ambassador's attention, and this would be a good task for a newer Ambassador who's looking for a way to help. It would take maybe a half-hour or so for someone to go through all the links on that page and do some upkeep: * See if links work, fix or remove as necessary * If some of these sites are read-only calendars, break the page up to separate out and highlight sites where Ambassadors can add event information for Fedora events -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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FAMSCO meeting on February 1
by Max Spevack 01 Feb '10

01 Feb '10

Hi Ambassadors, FAMSCO will meet on February 1 at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 The agenda is below, and also at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_agenda Thanks, Max == 2010-02-01 agenda == Review last week's action items: * January's FAMSCO monthly report ** Everyone -- spend 15 minutes [[Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/ReportTemplate |adding relevant information]]. ** Max -- final editing of the report. ** Susmit -- turn it into a PDF, create Publican/Latex template for FAMSCO report ** Joerg -- send the final report to the mailing list. ** Maria -- schedule the first Ambassadors IRC town hall for sometime in the first week of February, in #fedora-ambassadors. Probably need to tell people that we'll change the times of these town halls monthly, so that all regions can participate over time. * Joerg -- update mentoring status * Rodrigo -- create a workflow for event organization along the interfaces used in the Fedora Community Portal and FAS2. Stuff from last week's agenda that we didn't get to: * Joerg -- make mentoring better through more automation * Joerg -- Input for mentoring survey New business: * Max -- report on the [[Events_FAD_2010|Events FAD]] and what that means for all FUDCons in 2010. * Can we make the FAMSCO trac instance completely open? Max thinks yes. Every week: * 10 minutes -- short regional reports and feedback. * Max -- Lead review of [https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reo… open tickets].

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FOSDEM FAD Agenda
by Pierros Papadeas 31 Jan '10

31 Jan '10

Good morning my fellow ambassadors! Following the descusion we had on our last EMEA Ambassadors Meeting [1] we are organizing a FAD on Friday 5/2 on Brussels just before FOSDEM starts :) Although some final details are yet to be confirmed (place, exact time), we set up an agenda on this mini FAD [2] Please navigate to that link and add your agenda items before the upcoming Friday. An official announcement of the FOSDEM FAD will follow. Hope to see you there! ~π [1] http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-27/fedora-meeting.2… [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2010#FOSDEM_FAD -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros(a)papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode

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REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 31 Jan '10

31 Jan '10

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2010-01-31 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (31 jan.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Merci de répondre à ce message en cas d'indisponibilité. Thomas Canniot

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Texas LinuxFest Call for Papers
by David Duncan 29 Jan '10

29 Jan '10

http://texaslinuxfest.org/callforpapers/ I would like to invite all of you to participate in the Texas Linux Fest coming up on April 10. It would be nice to see as many submissions as possible related to Fedora. -- David Duncan Austin, TX RHCA #805007392628032

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Yesterdays EMEA Ambassadors Meeting
by Joerg Simon 29 Jan '10

29 Jan '10

During the yesterdays EMEA Ambassadors Meeting there was the request to open up the trac instance: > 20:20:58 <cwickert> one point where communication is really broken is FAMSCO's trac instance not being public for ambassadors > 20:21:23 <cwickert> I mean, we get the FAMSCO meeting logs and the links to trac, but we cannot read the tickets > 20:21:29 * inode0 agrees with that > 20:21:36 <cwickert> this is a bad joke, not even FESCOs trac is hidden > 20:24:00 <kital> cwickert: fesco has not to deal with money and sentiments along with money > 20:25:22 <GeroldKa> afaik is "money" always a open point to everyone we need a place where we can deal with money details, like paypal, bank account data, scans of receipts, personal private things like shipping adresses and times thanks to Susmit and David for pointing that out! http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2010-January/000036.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2010-January/000037.html cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Fedora Bangladesh Get Together
by Imtiaz Rahi 29 Jan '10

29 Jan '10

Dear Friends, Its my privilege to announce on behalf of the Fedora Ambassadors of Bangladesh that Fedora is going to make its presence at BASIS SoftExpo 2010. Fedora is going to share the booth of Ankur Bangladesh (ankur.org.bd) at the expo. Everyone is invited to visit the our stall during the exhibition from February 10-14, 2010. During this event we are arranging a Fedora Bangladesh get together, an informal Fedora Activity Day (FAD) on 13th February. All Fedora ambassadors, users, enthusiasts are invited to join at this event. FAD at BASIS SoftExpo 2010 Date: Sat, 13-Feb-2010 Location: BASIS SoftExpo 2010 premise at Bangabandhu International Conference Center 3:00 pm - Introduction [know who is who] 3:30 pm - Short overview of Fedora Project 4:00 pm - Discussion on advancing the Fedora Bangladesh community 5:00 pm - Fedora SWAG distribution; T-shirts, DVD etc. Cheers // Imtiaz Rahi Fedora Ambassador imtiaz(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Imtiaz

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by Rishikesh Sharma 28 Jan '10

28 Jan '10

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Meeting Log EMEA Meeting 27-01-2010
by Joerg Simon 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

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27 Jan '10

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REMINDER: EMEA Ambassador Meeting Today!
by Pierros Papadeas 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

Ladies and gentlemen! Don't you remember there is an EMEA Ambassador meeting today (Europe, the Middle East, and Africa) on #fedora-meeting ? Day : Wednesday, January 27th, 2010 Time : 20:00 UTC (check http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=27&month=01&year=2… to know your own time depending on your countries) Channel : #fedora-meeting Meeting agenda (add your topic before the meeting please) : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2010-1-27 Meeting will also be a round-up preparation meeting for FOSDEM. Update your agendas, and don't forget to join us :) Kind regards, Pierros -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros(a)papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode

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FAD -- Fedora Events this weekend
by Max Spevack 26 Jan '10

26 Jan '10

Hi Ambassadors, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events_FAD_2010 We're holding a Fedora Activity Day (FAD) this weekend with two main goals: (1) Debug, improve, and better document the entire FUDCon and FAD process, starting with the goals and desired results of Fedora's premier-level events, and then moving into the specifics of 2010. (2) Improve on and formalize the process for doing live audio streaming from future FUDCons or FADs, get the necessary tools into Fedora, documented, and able to be replicated worldwide. The wiki page above has detailed information about the schedule and the plans for the FAD. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events_FAD_2010#Schedule https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events_FAD_2010#Tracks There will also be a very big remote participation component. Similar to the FAD EMEA 2009, we'll have someone in each track of the FUDCon whose goal is to transcribe as much as possible about what is going on into IRC, and we'll switch that responsibility around during the days. Just wanted to make sure everyone saw the updated goals and schedule, and knew that this FAD was happening. Thanks, Max

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URGENT!!! EMEA Request - Fedora Poloshirts on FOSDEM
by Joerg Simon 26 Jan '10

26 Jan '10

Hi EMEA Ambassadors, several Ambassadors requested to have a blue Fedora Polo Shirt on FOSDEM - while the Vendor checks his capacity on blue Polo Shirts: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt If you attend Fosdem and you want a Fedora Polo Shirt - i want to ask you to add your Request to this Ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/17 i will order tomorrow 26.01.10 latest 14:00 UTC!!! Notice - the shirts are high quality and you can wear them for years, therefore the costs per polo-shirt is around 25 EUR per polo shirt. cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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REMINDER: EMEA Ambassador Meeting this Wednesday !
by Pierros Papadeas 26 Jan '10

26 Jan '10

Ladies and gentlemen! Don't you remember there is an EMEA Ambassador meeting next Wednesday (Europe, the Middle East, and Africa) on #fedora-meeting ? Day : Wednesday, January 27th, 2010 Time : 20:00 UTC (check http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=27&month=01&year=2… to know your own time depending on your countries) Channel : #fedora-meeting Meeting agenda (add your topic before the meeting please) : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2010-1-27 Meeting will also be a round-up preparation meeting for FOSDEM. Update your agendas, and don't forget to join us :) Kind regards, Pierros -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros(a)papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode

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swag for FOSDEM
by Max Spevack 26 Jan '10

26 Jan '10

The purpose of this email is to triple-check that we have everything that we need for FOSDEM. (1) Posters and decorations for the booth. Who is bringing it, and what do we have? (2) Fedora 12 media GNOME - Who is bringing it, and how much? KDE - Who is bringing it, and how much? XFCE - Max will get some made and bring it/ship it LXDE - Max will get some made and bring it/ship it (3) Other stuff Buttons -- Max has some, and will bring them in his suitcase. Case badges -- These should be arriving from the producer with enough time for Max to bring them in his suitcase What else do people have, or are people bringing? What am I forgetting? What do we need to produce more of in EMEA? Thanks, Max

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FOSDEM 2010 - Pick up your Event SWAG!
by Joerg Simon 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

Dear EMEA Event Owners, i will bring LiveCD, DVD-Media and T-Shirts(Splatter) with me to FOSDEM 2010. If you attend FOSDEM 2010 and plan an EMEA Event or need SWAG for your Ambassador Work - please add your request to https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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FAMSCO meeting 1/25
by Max Spevack 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

Hi Ambassadors, Just a reminder that FAMSCO meets tomorrow (1/25) at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1. Agenda -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_agenda The meeting, of course, is open to all, and we will likely have some extra time at the end for open floor. --Max

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NA updates
by Max Spevack 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

Hi NA Ambassadors, I've got Tuesday night conflicts until mid-March (then no longer) which I apologize for, so here's a few updates from me once again in advance of tonight's meeting: (1) The window clings are ordered, and have been charged to my RH credit card. (2) Budget 100% exists to make new tshirts in the current quarter, and we should certainly do it. (3) inode0 started some early planning for FAD NA 2010, and unless some sort of horrible conflict comes up, I'll plan to be there. -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_NA_2010 (4) I owe not just NA, but all regions, a end-of-January budget report, so that we can see how much funding remains to be spent in the first weeks of February before the end of Red Hat's fiscal year. But if there's a shopping list of stuff besides window clings and tshirts that we need more of, let's give it serious thought. (5) The case badges are supposed to be shipping any day now. I'll get a status update from the manufacturer. --Max

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Re: [Ambassadors] Events calendars
by Carl Walker 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 24 Jan '10

24 Jan '10

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Member: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adil452100 from Morocco mentored by Mathieu Bridon Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 24 Jan '10

24 Jan '10

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2010-01-24 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (24 jan.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Merci de répondre à ce message en cas d'indisponibilité. Thomas Canniot

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Cerea fair reports
by Luca Foppiano 23 Jan '10

23 Jan '10

Hi all, we are back from Cerea Fair in italy. Impressive event and, let me say, completely full of people...nice experience, nice team :) . Here you can find more detailed reports: Alexjan Carraturo (it) http://axjslack.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/fiera-di-cerea-una-ottima-esperien… Lorenzo Villani (en) http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/lvillani/2010/01/20/cerea-fair-january-20… Luca Foppiano (en) http://blog.foppiano.org/2010/01/20/cerea-fair-report-jan-2010/ ...and here some photos: * Lorenzo Villani: http://share.ovi.com/album/lvillani.CereaFair2010 * Luca Foppiano: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lfoppiano/sets/72157623247389422/ Cheers Luca PS: @LarryCafiero, could you please add this news on the next Fedora Weekly News about ambassadors? Thanks :)

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[wrap up] Camp KDE 2010
by Ryan Rix 22 Jan '10

22 Jan '10

hello everyone, Hope everyone is doing well. :) Last weekend I had the chance to visit San Diego, California to attend Camp KDE, the largest KDE event in North America and an awesome chance to meet and connect with KDE developers. You can see my blag posts about it here: http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/14/campkde-day-1/ http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/camp-kde-day-1/ http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/camp-kde-day-1-seriously-i… is-this-time/ http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/camp-kde-day-2/ http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/camp-kde-day-3/ http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/things-i-learned-at-camp- kde-2010/ As the event was a little less of a general convention, and more of an ad-hoc developer meeting, we had no table or booth, and only the chance to talk with a bunch of KDE developers and users, and a bunch of people who were new to Free Software in general. As a result, the posts are a little less "hey here's what we did at the event" but the team building and hanging out that we did in the evening. There was a large KUbuntu and OpenSuSE presence at the event, so getting Fedora and the Fedora KDE SIG some much needed PR was a Good Thing, and I think we were pretty well received at the event. I did however take away a few things which I will go into details on below. Feel free to dissect the post. Media: I'm in possession of a KUbuntu 9.10 CD and an OpenSuSE 11.2 DVD. I've noticed a few things about each. The OpenSuSE DVD is a dual sided DVD with 32 bit packages on one side and 64 bit on another. This was the only image that they shipped, and the fact that it was dual sided was also interesting. I think that in the F13 or F14 time frame, we should look at using DVDs for the Ambassador media. Last I heard, the Desktop team was going to be producing 1gb live images, which wouldn't fit in a CD anyways. If we used a DVD for the primary images, we could ship more software, and have the ability to showcase other spins in the live media (whether it's as a separate squashfs on the image, or as a single image, with GDM having the ability to choose between GNOME, KDE, Moblin, XFCE, etc, even Sugar?) which would, imo, be a Big Win. The Dual Sided-ness is probably a little bit overkill, but still a cool thing to see. The KUbuntu CD(? may have been DVD, don't have it nearby) was packaged in a sleeve that had an extra flap that that primarily keeps the media from sliding out of the sleeve it is stored in. But what I think is even better is that, when you open it up, there is information on the inside, answering common questions... How can I use this CD as a live test? How can I install KUbuntu? What is KUbuntu? What is free software? How is this software available free of charge? etc. Something like this is easy to add to our media, and should be looked at, imo. As it is, if $person picks up a Fedora live image, it's fairly non-certain what they should do with the disk, how they should run it, etc, if they have never used a live media before. It's a little intimidating, I think. A few KDE developers and I spoke with a fellow at the place we stayed at for about a half hour about these sorts of things, and about Free Software in general, and it was a good discussion. However, in many cases, we will not have the chance to engage in such discussion with prospective users, and this can lead to unfortunate cases of users simply picking up the media and not knowing how to use it, or doing something even worse (picking up install media and using it thinking it's live because they don't know any better, or other such things the IRC support channels have seen) Fedora from a KDE developer's point of view: As a whole, the KDE development community represented at Camp KDE has become increasingly impressed with the Fedora distribution as a whole over the last few releases and the KDE SIG's work at creating a "well integrated" KDE distribution. A few were also impressed at the spins.fedoraproject.org redesign, so major props to the design team and everyone else involved in that redesign :) As far as I could tell, there were only one or two folks their running Fedora on their systems, but one of them was a past employee at Mandrive, so we can't be doing that badly ;) [cc'd the KDE SIG list as it has some impact on them too] Best to all, Ryan Rix -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonaleash(a)gmail.com -> ry(a)n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonaleash(a)gmail.com | MSN: phrkonaleash(a)yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash | Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: rrix(a)irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels.

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 22 Jan '10

22 Jan '10

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Member: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bhaslinux from the United Kingdom mentored by Robert Scheck Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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fossevents.org
by Max Spevack 21 Jan '10

21 Jan '10

I found this site after reading Stormy Peters' blog post[1] about where she will be going in 2010 to represent GNOME. http://fossevents.org/ I have a couple of thoughts: (1) In our regional meetings, I think it would make sense to take a look at this calendar and see if there is anything on it that we want to make a Fedora event, and add to our events page. (2) If there are Fedora events on our events page that are not on this site, we might want to consider submitting that event, so that it shows up. (3) I'll find a few extra dollars in my team's budget, and make a small donation. It looks like the site is run by the same folks who run freenode. --Max [1] http://www.stormyscorner.com/2010/01/where-should-i-be-this-year.html

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Sorry I missed the NA meeting
by Larry Cafiero 20 Jan '10

20 Jan '10

Hey, NA folks -- I was heading back to my office in Felton when a pickup ran a red light and I got to try out the air bags in the 15-year-old VW (which worked perfectly). Anyway, I wanted to mention a possibility for the SCaLE FAD at the meeting this evening, which obviously can be discussed further on list prior to the next meeting. The Fedora 13 Test Days are scheduled for Thursdays between now and the release of F13 -- the schedule is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_13_test_days -- and I was wondering if we took the one before SCaLE, which would be a day later on Friday, Feb. 19. It might be interesting to do something for the new release -- what that might be I would open to suggestion. But I wanted to throw that thought out there. Larry Cafiero

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Links and Logs Fedora Ambassador NA meeting yesterday
by Scott McBrien 20 Jan '10

20 Jan '10

Hi all, wanted to provide the links to the meeting details from last night. Most of the discussion was around having a Fedora Ambassador Day in May, the link is in the minutes, ideas on places where ambassadors could evangalize Fedora outside of OSS cons or shows, and brainstorming some new promotional items to get made up for aforementioned events. -Scott Summary: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-20/fedora-meeting.2… Transcript: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-20/fedora-meeting.2… And the inclusion of the complete log: 02:01:09 <StabbyMc> #startmeeting 02:01:09 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jan 20 02:01:09 2010 UTC. The chair is StabbyMc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:01:09 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:01:14 <djf_jeff> .fas jfsaucier 02:01:15 <zodbot> djf_jeff: jfsaucier 'Jean-Francois Saucier' <jfsaucier(a)infoglobe.ca> 02:01:18 <VileGent> .fas vaioof 02:01:19 <zodbot> VileGent: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof(a)yahoo.com> 02:01:21 <crossbytes> .fas crossbytes 02:01:22 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora North America semi-monthly meeting 02:01:23 <zodbot> crossbytes: crossbytes 'Kevin Higgins' <Kevin(a)crossbytes.org> 02:01:23 <etank> .fas ericlake 02:01:25 <makfinsky> .fas makfinsky 02:01:26 <threethirty> .fas threethirty 02:01:26 <cwtucker> Running in the door... 02:01:26 <zodbot> etank: etank 'Eric Lake' <ericlake(a)gmail.com> 02:01:27 <Ac-town> .fas Ac-town 02:01:30 <zodbot> makfinsky: makfinsky '' <ivan.makfinsky(a)endosys.com> 02:01:33 <StabbyMc> .fas smcbrien 02:01:34 <zodbot> threethirty: threethirty 'Justin O'Brien' <three(a)threethirty.us> 02:01:37 <zodbot> Ac-town: actown 'Derrick Dymock' <actown(a)gmail.com> 02:01:41 <zodbot> StabbyMc: smcbrien '' <scott(a)mcbrien.net> 02:01:57 <inode0> poor zodbot can't keep up 02:02:25 <xm4nfedoralinux> yep 02:02:49 <StabbyMc> anyone else for roll-call? 02:02:59 <ke4qqq> .fas ke4qqq 02:02:59 <zodbot> ke4qqq: ke4qqq 'David Nalley' <david(a)gnsa.us> 02:02:59 * inode0 boycotts roll-call 02:03:11 <cwtucker> right here. cwtucker 'Chris Tucker' 02:03:12 <StabbyMc> .fas inode0 02:03:14 <xm4nfedoralinux> how do u roll call again? 02:03:16 <zodbot> StabbyMc: inode0 'John T. Rose' <rose(a)iastate.edu> 02:03:20 <threethirty> i say we do it again and see if we can ddos zodbot 02:03:27 <makfinsky> Feeling ornery today, huh, inode0? 02:03:39 * inode0 just thinks this is a waste of time :) 02:03:39 <xm4nfedoralinux> xm4nfedoralinux here. 02:04:08 <StabbyMc> Ok so those of you who want to play along at home, here's the agenda 02:04:13 <StabbyMc> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2010-1-19 02:04:36 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora North America semi-montly meeting ANNOUNCEMENTS 02:04:51 <inode0> For all those waiting for tickets from me shipments to everyone went out yesterday 02:04:55 <rrix> .fas rrix 02:04:56 <zodbot> rrix: rrix 'Ryan Rix' <ry(a)n.rix.si> 02:05:47 <cwtucker> inode0: great 02:05:52 <StabbyMc> inode0: am I getting a package? 02:05:57 <xm4nfedoralinux> +1 02:05:58 <StabbyMc> maybe some F12 media? 02:06:03 <inode0> StabbyMc: not from me 02:06:19 <StabbyMc> ke4qqq: am I getting a package, maybe some F12 media? ;-) 02:06:39 <ke4qqq> it will be leaving me tomorrow 02:06:58 <StabbyMc> yea! :-) 02:06:59 * ke4qqq received it yesterday evening 02:07:15 <StabbyMc> Other announcements 02:07:16 <StabbyMc> ? 02:07:31 <rrix> meh, low battery 02:07:45 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora North America semi-montly meeting EVENTS 02:08:14 <makfinsky> frields put up a page on wiki re: summit attendees. 02:08:49 <inode0> stickster_afk around here 02:09:01 <makfinsky> If anyone's attending and can man booth or is willing to help with fedora breakouts, add your name. 02:09:31 <Arsenick> .fas Arsenick 02:09:32 <zodbot> Arsenick: arsenick 'René Jr Purcell' <rene.purcell(a)gmail.com> 02:10:04 <lcameron> .fas lcameron 02:10:05 <zodbot> lcameron: lcameron 'Leigh Cameron' <leighc(a)gmail.com> 02:10:09 <StabbyMc> I notice a couple of items on the agenda in the events section. 02:10:17 <xm4nfedoralinux> +1 me too 02:10:22 <StabbyMc> Who wanted to talk about Fedora Ambassador Day Proposal? 02:10:27 <inode0> StabbyMc: those are all mine 02:10:33 * lcameron is late... 02:10:38 * StabbyMc yeilds the floor to inode0 02:10:44 <inode0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_NA_2010 02:11:15 <inode0> Initial proposal for the Fedora Ambassador Day(s) for NA this year 02:11:33 <makfinsky> woa... Iowa. 02:11:38 <inode0> If anyone wants to propose alternate dates/locations feel free to do that 02:11:49 <inode0> makfinsky: nice central location :) 02:12:09 <StabbyMc> inode0: what's the close airport and how close is it? 02:12:10 <makfinsky> Cool, that's one of the few states I have yet to visit. 02:12:34 <inode0> DSM is 30 miles away, there is a shuttle and I can be a shuttle too 02:12:43 <cwtucker> <looking> at map 02:13:03 * StabbyMc looking at delta.com 02:13:12 <inode0> Here is what I'd like to suggest 02:13:47 <inode0> If there are big problems or desires for a different place/time it would be nice to get that on the table soon 02:14:24 <inode0> If there aren't objections by the next FAmNA meeting I'll proceed with locking down commitments for the resources needed locally 02:14:32 <ke4qqq> inode0: it's awfully close to SELF 02:14:38 <ke4qqq> datewise 02:14:50 <ke4qqq> but there may not be a better time 02:14:56 <ke4qqq> just noting it, not really objecting 02:15:27 * inode0 doesn't see SELF on the Fedora Events page and doesn't know when it is 02:15:48 <threethirty> http://southeastlinuxfest.org 02:15:50 <StabbyMc> 6/10 - 6/14 02:16:40 <inode0> that is almost 3 weeks later, so not terrible 02:16:48 <makfinsky> I'm in for FAD. 02:17:13 <inode0> Ok, well, just think about it until our next meeting please 02:17:19 <makfinsky> Yeah, that doesn't seem too close. 02:17:30 <inode0> And add work items to the wiki page - we need an agenda 02:17:36 <xm4nfedoralinux> Anyone for Texas LinuxFest? 02:18:20 <VileGent> xm4nfedoralinux, the more the better 02:18:21 <inode0> StabbyMc: you lost your job! 02:18:26 <VileGent> cwtucker, ?? 02:18:40 <StabbyMc> xm4nfedoralinux: lets hold that to the end of the events on the agenda :-) 02:18:56 <inode0> Well it is next up 02:19:09 * StabbyMc needs VileGent to fire him. 02:19:22 <StabbyMc> *again* 02:19:34 <inode0> Anything else about the possible FAD before going on? We will have budget to help people get to it. 02:19:34 <mock> sorry i'm late...and i might suffer some network problems... 02:20:15 <inode0> TLF then ... 02:20:15 <StabbyMc> inode0: what is the purpose of a Fedora Ambassador Day? 02:20:36 <VileGent> inode0, i dont guess that regions ambassador wants a fedora presence at SELF 02:20:58 <inode0> VileGent: can you rephrase that for me? 02:21:03 <cwtucker> Texas indeed 02:21:03 <cwtucker> VileGent: yes, sorry internet issues for a min 02:21:09 <inode0> oh, not on the events page 02:21:17 <VileGent> exactly 02:21:35 <StabbyMc> inode0: what is the purpose of a Fedora Ambassador Day? 02:21:39 <inode0> I'm sure it just isn't there yet 02:21:51 <xm4nfedoralinux> so we are still on the events before Texas Linux Fest? 02:22:03 <inode0> xm4nfedoralinux: yes, hold on 02:22:15 <xm4nfedoralinux> ok. brb 02:22:46 <inode0> StabbyMc: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_EMEA_2009 <- look at that for an idea 02:23:29 <inode0> basically to plan ambassador activities/projects, give and get feedback to/from Red Hat, etc. 02:24:26 <makfinsky> Hmm, cake break is on the agenda for fad emea 2009. Can we have one of those? 02:24:28 <StabbyMc> Ok, the wiki is slow, I'll look at it after the meeting. 02:24:47 <inode0> ok, we can come back to it later during open floor 02:24:58 <StabbyMc> makfinsky: in America we only have cookie breaks. 02:25:01 <inode0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Texas:LinuxFest_2010 02:25:08 <mock> makfinsky: the cake is a lie 02:25:28 <inode0> We are going to have a nice presence at the 1st Texas Linux Fest I hope 02:25:54 <inode0> Anyone interested should sign up and chat with me or David Duncan (davdunc) about helping 02:26:10 <cwtucker> Definitely interested, and will be involved 02:26:17 <inode0> CFP is in progress now so if you plan to go please consider proposing a talk 02:27:00 <inode0> I have set aside 400 pieces of F12 media to ship to TLF pending talking to David about the appropriateness of that number 02:28:08 <inode0> We need the ground troops to tell us what is needed in terms of other swag and booth help 02:28:14 <cwtucker> Expecting a fairly large turnout 02:28:16 <inode0> We will definitely have a booth 02:28:59 <VileGent> is a event box or banners needed 02:29:12 <inode0> on a tangent to TLF I'd like to encourage people there to nose around and make as many contacts as possible with a site for a future FUDCon in mind :) 02:29:22 <cwtucker> I will get with David and see where/what he needs me to do to help him 02:30:00 <inode0> Austin always comes up as a place for FUDCon and the one thing that seems to hold it back is not having a suitable site for the event itself 02:30:51 <inode0> shall we move on? 02:31:10 <inode0> I think we'll do what is needed to make TLF a success for Fedora 02:31:23 <inode0> VileGent: probably 02:31:47 <cwtucker> I will get with you later inode0 to discuss in more detail with you 02:31:56 <inode0> great, thanks cwtucker 02:32:24 <inode0> "Expanding reach of Fedora into new event areas - target #1 Design" 02:32:41 <inode0> This I hope isn't controversial 02:33:25 <inode0> What I'd like to get though is basic agreement about whether we (FAmNA) should be sponsoring events outside our normal comfort zone 02:34:00 <inode0> Say the Design team has a conference where the focus is design 02:34:43 <inode0> They can showcase how the design team in Fedora works and learn from others, possibly connect with like minded people and get new contributors, etc. 02:34:59 <inode0> Can we sponsor those events? I think we should try. 02:35:06 <makfinsky> I like the idea. 02:35:06 <threethirty> that could be tied to talks at said events 02:35:18 <makfinsky> I was about to mention mizmo, speaking of which. 02:35:38 <inode0> let's look at SXSW as an example of an event that we would not traditionally attend or sponsor 02:35:46 <mizmo> sup 02:35:55 <xm4nfedoralinux> I am so ecited to go to Texas Linux fest! 02:35:56 <StabbyMc> SXSW = South by South West the music fest? 02:36:10 <inode0> mizmo: don't blow it, I'm trying to get FAmNA to sponsor design conferences :) 02:36:30 <inode0> StabbyMc: yes, but it is more than music 02:36:31 <threethirty> inode0: good point, South By would be a good place to show off what we (royal we) do 02:36:53 <inode0> it is a bunch of events and one of the big ones is the interactive part 02:36:58 <threethirty> StabbyMc: its expanded to many other things but yes its *that* sxsw 02:37:09 <inode0> http://sxsw.com/interactive 02:37:30 <inode0> this would be interesting to designers, right mizmo? 02:37:53 <mizmo> inode0: absolutely 02:38:05 <inode0> anthro-diana: ping if you are available just chime in here 02:38:22 <mizmo> it would be a good opportunity to present a case for free software to the design community 02:38:28 <mizmo> which we have not done much of 02:38:28 <anthro-diana> There is a very large design faction and even a bit of a design tract at the conference 02:38:50 <ke4qqq> so we could potentially garner talented capable design contributors?? 02:38:56 <anthro-diana> I as a designer have attended for the last 2 years 02:38:58 <anthro-diana> Yes 02:39:01 <inode0> so this isn't the normal event for us, but it would promote Fedora, it would benefit Fedora contributors, and it would reach an audience that is likely sympathetic to us but perhaps not aware of us 02:39:14 <anthro-diana> There is also a large open source contingent there 02:39:26 <ke4qqq> who is that contingent? 02:39:36 <anthro-diana> it differs from year to year 02:39:42 <anthro-diana> not necessary sponsored by any company 02:39:50 <VileGent> we are to spread fedora even to places that we might not be the most comfortable 02:40:05 <threethirty> like macworld :) 02:40:15 <anthro-diana> There are the usual players as well 02:40:27 <inode0> actually I think SXSW would be very comfortable with Fedora 02:40:29 <anthro-diana> but software is definitely a focus 02:40:51 <inode0> it just isn't a place we normally show up 02:41:21 <crossbytes> so has someone been to this SXSW it looks very interesting? 02:41:30 <xm4nfedoralinux> so who is attending TLF 02:42:29 <inode0> crossbytes: anthro-diana just talked about attending 02:42:38 <threethirty> crossbytes: i havent been their personally but i have follwed it on the net and it looks like a cool event, ive been wanting to go for years 02:42:54 <anthro-diana> there is also the side event of Bar Camp Austin 02:43:03 <inode0> ok, there is a second part of this story ... oops 02:43:13 <anthro-diana> :) 02:43:13 <makfinsky> Bar Camp? 02:43:22 <makfinsky> As in making drinks? 02:43:46 <inode0> so there is a barcamp we can have a normal presence at 02:44:16 <inode0> Is everyone ok with spreading our event wings a bit to try to reach some new audiences? 02:44:22 <StabbyMc> bar camp, the concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_camp 02:44:51 <inode0> http://barcamp.org/BarCampAustin <- last year's link 02:44:51 <makfinsky> inode0: Agreed. 02:45:07 <cwtucker> inode0: sounds good 02:45:43 * inode0 asks mizmo and anthro-diana to come up with a plan :) 02:46:13 <threethirty> is there a large Ambassador/design crossover? 02:46:16 <inode0> and keep eyes open for other opportunities 02:46:45 <threethirty> or would there need to be some ambassadors to help with that? 02:46:52 <ke4qqq> threethirty: tatica and mizmo 02:47:04 <mizmo> with the timing unfortunately i may not be able to make it :( 02:47:08 <ke4qqq> ohh an ianweller and herlo 02:47:19 <anthro-diana> I'll be happy to help out in any way I can 02:47:24 <inode0> mizmo: things don't always have to happen now, there is next year 02:47:34 * mizmo hopes 02:48:33 * inode0 is happy with the plan to watch for these sorts of opportunities and grab them when we can 02:49:28 <StabbyMc> inode0: finished with events? 02:49:31 * inode0 gives the floor back but feel free to chat up the barcamp anthro-diana 02:49:47 <anthro-diana> the barcamp is like the open source version of SXSW 02:49:50 <StabbyMc> Any other event based items that were not on the agenda? 02:50:02 <anthro-diana> SXSWi is generally cost prohibitive to many people 02:50:07 <nullsys> I do have something small, but I dont know how much it will affect US people. 02:50:20 <anthro-diana> so a lot of people just go to Austin to attend the BC that benefits from the overflow of SXSWi 02:50:27 <inode0> mizmo: and please tell everyone what a lovely place Iowa is for those who haven't been here :) 02:50:45 <makfinsky> Ah, I may be attending Shmoocon in dc at the end of Feb. If anyone else is going, hit me up. 02:50:52 <StabbyMc> anthro-diana: I can see that; travel to Austin around the time of SxSW is also rather prohibitive. 02:51:17 <anthro-diana> I've found roommates on Twitter just so that I could attend :) 02:51:51 <anthro-diana> My badge is comped this year, so I am already going, I also have a suite already reserved in hopes to be able to share it with roommates 02:51:56 <mizmo> inode0: Iowa is indeed lovely :) 02:52:20 <anthro-diana> My first year I slept on the floor of a French Anthropologists apartment! 02:52:35 <nullsys> Myself and MooDoo are working on a UK Fedora site, we felt we could offer something to UK users and contributors by adding a UK based Fedora dedicated site and Freenode channel, we have already setup #fedora-uk but the site is coming soon. I wanted to just inform other ambassadors of this incase an occasion were to arise in the future were such info might be helpful. 02:53:36 <cwtucker> antro-diana: kinda like a hacker gathering in Vienna where everyone just crashes wherever they find space? 02:53:49 <anthro-diana> kinda yeah 02:54:12 <cwtucker> anthro-diana: k, now I am with the program :) 02:54:19 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora North America semi-montly meeting BUDGET 02:54:24 <mizmo> nullsys: i may be in the UK next month 02:54:39 <StabbyMc> so again I yeild the floor to inode0 02:54:48 <nullsys> Brilliant mizmo :) 02:55:44 <inode0> sorry stepped away 02:56:05 <StabbyMc> no worries, so we need a prioratized swag list. 02:56:11 <inode0> ok 02:56:19 <StabbyMc> I don't know what others think, but I'm just going to throw this out there. 02:56:22 <StabbyMc> (1) Tee Shirts 02:56:33 <inode0> we are likely to have some end of year opportunities for acquiring swag 02:56:42 <StabbyMc> (2) Vynl Stickers 02:56:48 <inode0> what we need and we need it pretty fast is a list of things we want 02:56:49 <StabbyMc> (3) pens replenishment ? 02:57:13 <inode0> we need to be able to act on these fairly fast to make orders, so we need our ducks in a row 02:57:58 <inode0> so I'd like a list of things we want and have them ordered roughly by how much we want them and how easy it is for us to get them 02:58:25 <inode0> t-shirts is a done deal, we have some details to work out still but we will order more t-shirts this quarter 02:58:36 <StabbyMc> Well anything we've done before is easy to re-order. 02:58:53 <StabbyMc> What do our stockpiles of existing items look like, ie, is there something we need to replenish? 02:59:09 <VileGent> case badges?? 02:59:10 <inode0> I am expecting we will be able to get 300-400 t-shirts 02:59:14 <StabbyMc> I know vynl stickers would be new. 02:59:23 <StabbyMc> VileGent: case badges are done and should ship this week. 02:59:24 <inode0> case badges are already ordered and should ship to us any day now 02:59:31 <VileGent> whoohoo 02:59:43 <StabbyMc> Clings are done and I should get them this week or next. 02:59:47 <xm4nfedoralinux> listen, 03:00:09 <inode0> ok, so we have new clings, case badges, and t-shirts covered already 03:00:20 <StabbyMc> do we need more pens? 03:00:35 <nullsys> If you dont mind me asking: I dont believe we have any kind of merchanise supply for the UK. Could someone talk to me about this at some point? I feel the UK could benefit from it. 03:00:36 <StabbyMc> they're easy and relatively in expensive for vast quantities. 03:00:46 <inode0> I am not sure about the pen supply but I'm guessing we likely still have more than 1,000 of them 03:01:10 <inode0> nullsys: ping me in #fedora-ambassadors later and I'd be happy to 03:01:17 <ke4qqq> nullsys: lets talk after the meeting 03:01:25 <nullsys> thanks both of you 03:01:29 <StabbyMc> We ordered 3K like 6 months ago, so probably ok there until next quarter'ish. 03:02:01 <inode0> StabbyMc: I have close to 500, Brian has the left-overs from the Summit which was a substantial number 03:02:02 <StabbyMc> If stickers are on the list, I can start working on those next week. 03:02:21 <VileGent> stabby voice stickers?? 03:02:35 <StabbyMc> voice stickers? 03:02:38 <inode0> Stickers are always wanted so I would put that high on the list if we have a place we can get them 03:02:47 <inode0> VileGent: yes 03:02:53 <VileGent> +1000 03:03:01 <inode0> StabbyMc: the BF style laptop stickers 03:03:10 <ke4qqq> +1 for BF style laptop stickers 03:03:16 <threethirty> +1 03:03:18 <ke4qqq> my current laptop is unadorned :( 03:03:20 <crossbytes> +1 03:03:45 <Arsenick> +1 03:03:49 <threethirty> i have a new laptop shipping tomorrow i need stickers :) 03:04:01 <inode0> we are pretty much out of buttons which are cheap and can go on the list for cleanup duty 03:04:54 <xm4nfedoralinux> I am having problems, with parents. 03:05:31 <inode0> xm4nfedoralinux: these meetings are logged and posted so you might want to just excuse yourself when necessary 03:06:18 <xm4nfedoralinux> sorry, it was meant for another chat. 03:06:51 <inode0> so anything else? rrix was looking into baseball hats 03:06:52 <StabbyMc> BF laptop stickers are like: http://www.decalgirl.com/item.view/33294 ? 03:07:05 <StabbyMc> I'm just trying to figure out what is wanted. 03:07:15 <etank> inode0: the t-shirts are the 2 color ones right. not the splatter shirts. 03:07:32 <cwtucker> inode0: Baseball caps would go over very well here in Texas 03:07:35 <inode0> http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=37_52 03:08:00 <inode0> those are 3" stickers iirc, VileGent? 03:08:18 <VileGent> yep 03:08:25 <StabbyMc> ah BF = Brand Fuel. Now I'm on the same page. 03:09:16 <inode0> etank: we are thinking about the I (f) Fedora design modified some 03:09:20 <StabbyMc> They're also die cut, which is why they have the exact Finity logo shape. Die cut tend to be a bit more $pendy, but I'll work on getting something. 03:09:46 <inode0> possibly with a base white or blue - but a white base allows us about 100 more shirts for the same price 03:10:08 <etank> inode0: sounds good 03:10:42 <inode0> the logo is 3 color iirc, but the splatter was 6 03:10:46 <inode0> or more 03:11:10 <VileGent> splatters look good but way too expensive 03:11:13 <inode0> which cost about 50% more 03:11:16 <mock> the decalgirl link type stickers are something we are looking at? 03:11:31 <mock> or the smaller ones? 03:11:47 <inode0> mock: just tossing around ideas, open to anything at this point 03:11:56 <StabbyMc> mock: smaller ones, I mis understood what we were talking about. 03:12:13 <mock> inode0: the laptop skins are very nice, actually 03:12:50 <inode0> laptops come in lots of shapes and sizes, a 3" logo nicely fits in the middle of almost all of them :) 03:13:30 <inode0> well, keep thinking about this while I digress 03:13:45 <inode0> Persistent infrastructure items? 03:13:52 <inode0> do we need anything? 03:13:57 <mock> but i think we could setup/make available the fedora design for the skins as people might order 03:14:09 <mock> yes, sorry 03:14:10 <inode0> banners, table skirts, fatheads? 03:14:32 <etank> fatheads? 03:15:01 <inode0> just something that can be reused at events to promote Fedora 03:15:10 <threethirty> etank: big effin stickers 03:15:28 <inode0> I actually have artwork from mizmo for fatheads 03:15:45 <StabbyMc> etank: http://www.fathead.com 03:15:58 <inode0> I paused after reading the agreement they wanted me to sign ... I wanted someone else to say it was ok 03:16:22 <StabbyMc> I would say table cloths would be an easy one to get knocked out. 03:16:24 <etank> wow those are big 03:16:49 <nullsys> And expensive. 03:17:17 <inode0> $100 for something like that that can be used many times isn't really expensive 03:17:35 <nullsys> Good point. Its durable and easily stored. 03:17:52 <makfinsky> inode0: What was in the agreement that made you pause? 03:17:55 <VileGent> StabbyMc, tablecloths are easy go to walmart and get a sheet for $4 03:18:07 <inode0> we would already have one if I didn't balk when reading the agreement 03:18:11 <StabbyMc> VileGent: i was thinking one that's logo'ized 03:18:33 <inode0> makfinsky: giving them wide rights to use what I submitted how they saw fit 03:18:33 <ke4qqq> inode0: is it something that needs RHT-legal to weigh in on- or is mizmo enough since she is the art-queen 03:18:41 <VileGent> StabbyMc, you are looking @ $120 to $200 each 03:18:50 <makfinsky> inode0: Ah... 03:18:57 <mizmo> ke4qqq: im red hat's official appointed logo approver person 03:18:58 <StabbyMc> VileGent: but this is a wishlist, right? 03:19:06 <inode0> so I submit the logo, they get to use it however they want ... more or less 03:19:36 <makfinsky> Well, isn't most artwork CC licensed? 03:19:39 <ke4qqq> inode0: phone conversation that gets us around that 03:19:42 <ke4qqq> makfinsky: not logo 03:19:44 <mizmo> the logo is not CC 03:19:46 <inode0> I just wasn't personally comfortable with making the decision at the time 03:19:48 <makfinsky> Oh. 03:19:55 <mizmo> would they be working with the svg or png? 03:20:07 * inode0 doesn't recall now 03:20:23 <inode0> and doesn't really recall the details, just the general nature of my concern 03:20:26 <mizmo> if they're not modifying the logo and respect our copyright... 03:20:48 <mizmo> i can have red hat legal take a look at any agreements or anything needed 03:21:13 <inode0> well when you get to the upload the artwork step a big thing pops up for you to read and agree to ... 03:21:19 <mizmo> ah 03:21:26 <mizmo> thats what we'd need red hat legal to look at 03:21:29 <inode0> I'll go back later and see if I can copy it 03:22:16 <inode0> ok, we'll revisit fatheads 03:22:31 <inode0> infrastructure stuff? 03:23:42 <inode0> ok, then I'm done although I'm interested in continuing the swag list 03:24:51 <StabbyMc> I guess we could quote hats, though I think they'd be less bang for the buck than something else. 03:24:56 <StabbyMc> like tee shirts. 03:25:06 * ke4qqq thought hats were verboten 03:25:13 <StabbyMc> wasn't rrix quoting those? 03:25:17 <ke4qqq> despite them being offered for sale 03:25:21 <mock> inode0: i'll try to find you later (tomorrow) and chat about skins. i like that idea if there's a possibility. 03:25:28 <inode0> yes, I was talking about a screenprinted table skirt which looks very professional and really draws attention 03:25:32 <cwtucker> why are they verboten? 03:26:03 <inode0> ke4qqq: BF sells Fedora hats so I can't imagine we can't give them away 03:26:40 <threethirty> cwtucker: RHT doesnt want us possibly confusing their trademark 03:26:52 <ke4qqq> BF also violates trademark policies wrt logo 03:27:15 <ke4qqq> doesn't mean we can or should do it - I'd at least like someone to bless it - like mizmo or spevack 03:27:18 <ke4qqq> before we proceed 03:27:27 <inode0> anyway, I don't think their is any prohibition against hats as swag 03:27:48 <mizmo> we already have a precedent for fedora baseball caps 03:28:21 <makfinsky> It's a shame my wife says I don't look good wearing ball caps - says I have a big head. 03:28:22 <mizmo> im happy to bring any vendor agreements to RH legal to approve and help get that stuff taken care of so you folks can order stuff 03:28:36 <mizmo> you should see my hat, it's a panda hat 03:28:39 <ke4qqq> inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct#Do_not_wear_a_big_red_hat 03:28:47 <inode0> I tend to agree that hats aren't very good bang for the buck though 03:29:25 <cwtucker> inode0: I am interested in following up on this hat issue 03:29:48 * etank wouldn't mind having a fedora hat 03:29:59 <ke4qqq> I agree it's silly - but still, someone somewhere thought it was important many years ago. Though we do have precedent. 03:30:11 <StabbyMc> ke4qqq: I think that article discusses why one shouldn't wear a RED HAT when representing Fedora. 03:30:19 * mock needs to go for now and will follow up with the transcripts. 03:30:29 <inode0> it goes farther, but really 03:30:45 <mizmo> im pretty sure the main concern is with red hats, or fedoras of any color 03:30:46 <inode0> Red Hat sells Fedora baseball hats 03:30:57 <ke4qqq> StabbyMc: it says: Our founding organization and main sponsor, Red Hat, has specifically requested that we not connect hats, red in color or otherwise, to the Fedora Project. Please do not use a hat, whether it's a fedora or any other type of hat, in any presentation of Fedora or to represent the Fedora Project in any way. 03:31:01 <mizmo> im very confident fedora baseball hats, as long s they are not red, are fine 03:31:19 <StabbyMc> mizmo: what about pink, covered in Hello Kitty hats? 03:31:25 <mizmo> ke4qqq: i definitely see where that owrding could cause concern 03:31:39 <mizmo> StabbyMc: lol i need to show you my panda hat tomorrow 03:31:48 <cwtucker> StabbyMc: I just think it would be nice to have Fedora hats for LUGs here, the other people wear them with other Distro names on them 03:31:57 <makfinsky> I would love to see panda hat. :) 03:32:24 <StabbyMc> cwtucker: I understand, but if the choice is ordering 100 hats of 3000 stickers, the stickers will likely win. 03:32:25 <ke4qqq> mizmo: don't necessarily agree with it, but it seems pretty staunch in it's hat stance. I'd happily see it reformed 03:32:53 <cwtucker> StabbyMc: no question there. Just a small wish list 03:32:57 <inode0> keeps your eyes closed at FUDCon if you don't want to see hats :) 03:33:08 <mizmo> ke4qqq: ill get in contact with the legal folks and verify the ball caps are okay, and try to get that wording changed 03:33:26 <ke4qqq> mizmo: awesome 03:33:37 <inode0> but the real problem with hats is they cost $10 each 03:33:49 <mizmo> visors are a little cheaper 03:33:57 <StabbyMc> IIRC that was put up because people representing Fedora were showing up places in Red RedHat Fedoras, which confused the independence or quasi-independence of Fedora. 03:34:11 <etank> visors aren't as cool though 03:34:22 <etank> imho 03:34:27 <StabbyMc> etank 8 of 10 NFL coaches disagree! 03:34:40 <etank> bah what do they know :) 03:34:46 <inode0> I like visors too, but either way this is an expensive item 03:34:57 <inode0> Feel free to go off and round up quotes 03:35:10 <mizmo> hats are more repeat-advertisement than stickers 03:35:20 <mizmo> the problem is its more of a gamble whether or not the person you give the hat to will actually wear it around 03:35:22 <cwtucker> inode0: Cost is higher, although, I think a small quantity could be more repetitve here 03:35:52 <inode0> if we can't get hundreds of them we can't do much with them to be honest 03:35:53 <VileGent> mizmo that is just it at events to get hats or tshirts they have to put them on right then 03:35:57 <mizmo> hats are good for a smaller group who are technically knowledgable, i think stickers are better for a wider audience who may not be as technical 03:36:03 <StabbyMc> well as I pointed out, we are talking about a wish list, so lets see what it shakes out ot. 03:36:21 <mizmo> VileGent: but when they go home from an event and wear the hat around, that's where the real advertising opportunity comes it 03:36:23 <mizmo> s/it/in 03:36:42 <VileGent> yep 03:36:48 <StabbyMc> mizmo: I have like 20 Red Hat caps. I wear 0. 03:36:51 <xm4nfedoralinux> ok guys, I have to go now. 03:36:52 <mizmo> if i had a fedora user for every time someone stopped me on the street randomly to make a comment on my panda hat :) 03:36:54 <inode0> mizmo: you are about to get a Fedora cling for you car window 03:37:05 <mizmo> inode0: lol my non functional car :) 03:37:09 <mizmo> inode0: maybe it will heal it! 03:37:11 <inode0> how is that for repeat advertising? 03:37:33 <cwtucker> StabbyMC: you should send a couple of them here to Tx 03:37:41 <mizmo> inode0: lol its a good billboard, the car looks so terrible people stop to look at it 03:37:59 <StabbyMc> cwtucker: but they are mines! My hatses! 03:38:16 <etank> unless they say "man if fedora did that to a car i dont want it on my computer" 03:38:24 <cwtucker> StabbyMC: just trying to get them some use :) 03:38:30 <StabbyMc> Anyone have other ideas for swag items or event box items? 03:38:32 <EvilBob> StabbyMc: Are they all as ill fitting as the craps BrandFuel sells? 03:38:42 <EvilBob> caps 03:39:00 * inode0 thought that was intentional 03:39:07 * etank too 03:39:09 <cwtucker> +1 on intentional 03:39:32 <threethirty> i think the classics are the way to go stickers/shirts/media anything else is just some crap people have to carry around the con floor 03:39:53 <threethirty> hats can go on heads so that works 03:40:05 * StabbyMc just brainstorming 03:40:14 <StabbyMc> screen printed tote bags? 03:40:35 <inode0> we could look again at getting lanyards 03:40:36 <StabbyMc> The reusable cloth ones similar to the reusable grocery store bags? 03:40:48 <mizmo> those are really popular these days in my neck of the woods 03:40:50 <StabbyMc> badge reels? 03:40:53 <inode0> for future event sponsorship use 03:40:54 <crossbytes> Writing instruments are the most commonly owned tchotchkes, with 54 percent of respondents owning them, followed by shirts, caps and bags. 03:41:14 <EvilBob> StabbyMc: I have been seeing them at other types of event, useful and visible 03:41:40 <mizmo> so actually i have a really cool idea for a sticker sheet that would maybe give Fedora a really positive vibe 03:41:44 <threethirty> StabbyMc: brilliant, at least then people look at us as the people who are helpful, i remember i got a hackysac and bouncy balls at OLF one year... such a PITA 03:41:44 <StabbyMc> mizmo: you philthy hippy. 03:41:46 <mizmo> stolen from a preivous libre graphics meeting 03:41:48 <ke4qqq> crossbytes: where did that come from? 03:41:57 <mizmo> they had a sticker sheet with different 'personality' traits, eg 03:42:03 <mizmo> they were all circular stickers 03:42:11 <mizmo> very small, like little yard sale price tag size 03:42:29 <crossbytes> been trying to find out most kept/used swag.. 03:42:31 <makfinsky> Sounds like a sticker sheet that RH used to have. 03:42:39 <makfinsky> But w/o personality. 03:42:41 <mizmo> there were stickers with: steve jobs caricature, bill gates caricature, linus torvalds.... veggies, meat.... vectors, bitmap.... vim, emac... 03:42:44 <VileGent> mizmo and sorry they go over like a lead balloon 03:42:58 <StabbyMc> One of the items I think we can improve on is the sticker sheets. One of the stickers I often use is the blank speech bubble, but use it as a nametag. Very handy, but could be nicer with a logo on it. 03:42:59 <mizmo> and you'd take the stickers from the sheet that represented your view point and stick them on your conference badge 03:43:16 <mizmo> of course for the distro there would be one choice, fedora :) 03:44:36 <StabbyMc> mizmo: so a sheet similar to the speech bubbles and (F) logos? 03:44:38 <inode0> the nametag stickers are handy 03:44:59 <mizmo> StabbyMc: it would be much smaller, and the stickers would all be small and circular, really they're just little gems or tokens for your conference badge 03:44:59 <inode0> where is herlo? 03:45:13 <inode0> he designed a really nice sheet similar to Red Hat's 03:45:17 <mizmo> StabbyMc: i think for name tags we're better off with rolls than sheets 03:45:31 <mizmo> which is red hat's sheet? 03:45:42 <inode0> it has 6 case badge style stickers of various sorts and one large logo sticker 03:45:55 <mizmo> ah 03:46:01 <StabbyMc> mizmo: from a production cost standpoint, but I can grab 2 or 3 sheets on my way somewhere, if I take the whole roll, it's likely to get lost :-( 03:46:04 <inode0> mizmo: http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&… 03:46:14 <mizmo> StabbyMc: ah that makes sense 03:46:21 <threethirty> mizmo: i like that idea, can we get some legal, cc, gnu, and activist things in the mix so that i could properly express myself :) 03:46:26 <mizmo> inode0: ah yeh 03:46:45 <mizmo> threethirty: yeh thats the thing, we'd need to brainstorm on what the little merit badges would have on them 03:46:49 <StabbyMc> mizmo: want to hash out some details over grub tomorrow? 03:46:53 <mizmo> threethirty: and if we're using something like the CC logo we need to get their okay 03:47:11 <mizmo> StabbyMc: so, i hate to do this - can you do Thursday instead? 03:47:11 <threethirty> mizmo: good point, the copy left symbol ? 03:47:21 <StabbyMc> mizmo: no prob. 03:47:24 <mizmo> StabbyMc: I may actually need to stay home tomorrow as it turns out 03:47:28 <mizmo> StabbyMc: kk sweet 03:47:33 <StabbyMc> mizmo: oddly I eat in the same place, like everyday ;-) 03:47:47 <mizmo> threethirty: i dont know if anybody owns the copyleft symbol, oddly I would hope no one if that makes esnse :) 03:48:26 <threethirty> mizmo: if anyone did i would assume its the FSF and i cant see them being too upset 03:48:43 <mizmo> threethirty: i can talk to them about it 03:48:55 <inode0> I can see it, but I'd like to not see it 03:49:03 <StabbyMc> don't they have sticker sheets that one can use and modify already? 03:49:13 <mizmo> if someone can take up the task of figuring out what the different badges should be, i can do the sticker artwork for them 03:49:29 <mizmo> StabbyMc: i think they do 03:50:24 <inode0> http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/art/fedora_case_badges_and_logo.png 03:50:36 <threethirty> mizmo: i think the copyleft symbol is in the public domain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Copyleft.svg 03:50:45 * inode0 thinks those sticker sheets would be sweet 03:50:45 <mizmo> threethirty: oh okay great 03:51:27 * makfinsky agrees with the sticker sheets. 03:51:44 <VileGent> sticker sheets + voice logo stickers 03:51:46 <makfinsky> er, I agree with inode0 re: sticker sheets. 03:53:45 <StabbyMc> Ok, so the items on our list are: 03:53:46 * inode0 suggests open floor until the top of the hour?! 03:54:06 <StabbyMc> cut voice (or Finity) logo vinyl stickers 03:54:10 <StabbyMc> sticker sheets 03:54:12 <StabbyMc> Hats 03:55:00 <inode0> I want more buttons 03:55:14 <StabbyMc> Buttons 03:55:16 <StabbyMc> Fatheads 03:55:33 <StabbyMc> Table banners, or cloths or whatever they are that are on the front of the table. 03:55:45 <StabbyMc> did I miss anything else? 03:55:58 * inode0 is too tired to remember now :( 03:56:14 <threethirty> i think that was it 03:56:26 <makfinsky> This is apart/in addition to the usual - shirts, etc.? 03:56:38 <StabbyMc> makfinsky 03:56:48 <StabbyMc> Yes Tees, case badges, clings are all done deals 03:56:49 <inode0> the shirts will be taken care of ... 03:56:54 <makfinsky> Kool. 03:57:14 <StabbyMc> OK. 03:57:32 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora North America semi-monthly meeting OPEN FLOOR 03:57:46 <inode0> StabbyMc: do you want to check on individual logo stickers as well as the 6" sheets? 03:58:05 <inode0> I'm guessing the same place would make either 03:58:06 <StabbyMc> inode0: already sent quote requests for the individuals 03:58:26 <StabbyMc> but the materials used for the sheets would likely be different (I think) 03:58:35 <inode0> wouldn't have to be 03:58:41 <EvilBob> What is a Fathead? Is that like a Paul BobbleHead? 03:58:43 <inode0> Red Hat's are vinyl 03:58:44 <StabbyMc> LIke the sheets we have now are paper, where as the other stickers we were talking about were vinyl 03:59:03 <VileGent> FatHead.com 03:59:07 <StabbyMc> depends on what goes on the sticker sheets. 03:59:34 <inode0> StabbyMc: I'm asking about sticker sheets made of the same stuff as the individual sticker 03:59:36 <StabbyMc> If it's like mizmo was talkinga bout with different sayings or personality things to stick on yourself, I don't want to spend a bunch of money on nice quality stickers. 03:59:49 <inode0> those are different 04:00:02 <inode0> look at the herlo link 04:00:04 <StabbyMc> I did. 04:00:13 <inode0> that is what I'm talking about 04:00:14 <StabbyMc> You and I should talk in #f-a later. 04:00:21 <inode0> ok 04:00:24 <threethirty> mizmo: should someone make a wikipage with a grid for comming up with the canf bandge stickers? 04:01:05 * StabbyMc thinks threethirty just volunteered! 04:01:08 * ke4qqq is leaving 04:01:39 <threethirty> StabbyMc: if i knew how to create a page... i would still try to rope someone else into it... i hate wikis 04:01:54 <StabbyMc> threethirty: everyone has to learn sometime ;-) 04:02:12 * StabbyMc shoves threethirty towards the wiki 04:02:16 <StabbyMc> oh, pardon me.. 04:02:29 <threethirty> StabbyMc: it touched you last 04:02:34 * threethirty runs away 04:02:39 <StabbyMc> OK, open floor. 04:02:43 <StabbyMc> Bueller? 04:02:57 <StabbyMc> Bueller? 04:03:14 <StabbyMc> Bueller? 04:03:18 <threethirty> is there a templete for the wiki? 04:03:45 <StabbyMc> threethirty: I would say surf around to see if there's a page similar and just snag it's format. 04:04:00 <threethirty> lol ok 04:04:00 <StabbyMc> But likely you're going to have to create your own format for this item. 04:04:10 <StabbyMc> Meeting close in 04:04:11 <StabbyMc> 5 04:04:15 <makfinsky> I do have a question - I will be attending a few events in DC, shmoocon, fose, and more. Its too late to work out anything like a booth. 04:04:39 <makfinsky> Should I hand out stickers, shirts, etc and like stuff while there? 04:04:55 <makfinsky> Sorry StabbyMc. 04:04:58 <StabbyMc> makfinsky: if you like and have it on hand. 04:05:13 <makfinsky> Kool, anyone have stuff they can send me? 04:05:14 <StabbyMc> VileGent, haven't you run some "unbooths" like that? 04:05:16 <makfinsky> :-D 04:05:21 <threethirty> makfinsky: load up a satchle with swag and roam around... saves on booth costs :) 04:05:34 <StabbyMc> makfinsky: request an Ambassador Kit via traq 04:05:39 <threethirty> StabbyMc: lol unbooth, i dig it 04:05:41 <makfinsky> Ah, ok. 04:05:54 <VileGent> backpacks loaded 04:05:59 <makfinsky> I'll do that tomorrow, tired tonight. 04:06:17 <cwtucker> unboothing sounds great 04:06:31 <ke4qqq> makfinsky: don't be afraid to do a booth though 04:06:42 <ke4qqq> we have money for it in most cases 04:06:44 <makfinsky> I'll see about adding the events to the events page as "unboothing". 04:06:59 <ke4qqq> and would love a presence at schmoocon 04:07:03 * EvilBob read "<StabbyMc> makfinsky: request an Ambassador Kit via Iraq" 04:07:04 <StabbyMc> makfinsky: https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/ 04:07:10 <EvilBob> that would fail 04:07:11 <makfinsky> ke4qqq: Too late to put a booth together, that and I am traveling for the next 6 weeks. 04:07:35 <ke4qqq> makfinsky: you might get some help - other people are relatively close by - like stickster_afk 04:07:39 <ke4qqq> you should post to the list 04:07:43 <ke4qqq> and see what the response is 04:07:51 <makfinsky> Good call ke4qqq, thanks. 04:08:01 <StabbyMc> Take 2 Meeting end in 04:08:02 <StabbyMc> 5 04:08:06 <StabbyMc> 4 04:08:10 <StabbyMc> 321 04:08:13 <StabbyMc> #endmeeting

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Event: RPI Center for Open Source talk about Fedora
by Máirín Duffy 20 Jan '10

20 Jan '10

Hi Ambassadors, I just wanted to shout out that I'll be giving a talk about Fedora at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) in Troy, NY on February 5. The abstract for my talk is as follows: "How to get involved in an open source Linux operating system: Fedora "Fedora is a Linux-based operating system that showcases the latest in free and open source software. Fedora is always free for anyone to use, modify, and distribute. It is built by people across the globe who work together as an open community that welcomes anyone to join. Mairin Duffy, an RPI CS alum from Red Hat, will talk about what makes Fedora different from other Linux-based operating systems and how you can get involved in Fedora." The official talk announcement and description is on the Rensselaer Center for Open Source website: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~moorthy/rcos/talksfall2009 The Rensselaer Center for Open Source (RCOS) funds RPI students for working on open source projects - and the talk will be taking place during an RCOS meeting. We already have two RPI students in the Fedora community, Rob Escriba and Ben Boeckel, but I'm hoping this will be a good chance to motivate more to join us :) BTW RPI is my alma mater :) I'm not sure how many will be attending yet; I'm waiting to hear back from my contact there on how many to expect. I filled out a Fedora events entry here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q4_.28December_2009_-_February_20… ~m

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Fedora Ambassadors North America semi-monthly meeting tomorrow
by Scott McBrien 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

Hey all, Just wanted to remind the NA ambassadors, and any other interested parties that our semi-monthly is tomorrow evening at 9:00p Eastern. -Scott

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FAMSCO's 2010-01-18 meeting
by Max Spevack 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

Hi Ambassadors, FAMSCO had its second meeting of 2010 today. Meeting minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2010-01-18/fedora-meeting… Full log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2010-01-18/fedora-meeting… Future meetings and agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_meetings Thanks, Max

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election rules proposal almost finalized
by Max Spevack 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

All, Following up on John's work and Neville's suggestion, I've taken a pass over the FAMSCO election rules page, and moved it to a better name. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules I've got one suggestion on the page of a paragraph that I think doesn't really need to be there, and beyond that I think it's ready to be reviewed by FAMSCO. That's just my $.02. --Max

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New test machine
by Ankur Sinha 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

hey, I just got myself an extra laptop that I can use to test stuff. this is the smolt profile: http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_5a1b4c49-e64d-45d8-91d7-9806815221b5 please feel free to ask me to test stuff for you, I'm not using this machine for any work. regards, Ankur [ X posted to three lists ]

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FOSDEM -- Friday February 5th
by Max Spevack 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

Hey FOSDEM-goers: Just wanted to point you all at this: http://spevack.livejournal.com/96254.html Any issues at all about FOSDEM -- please respond to this thread. I'm really looking forward to seeing everyone. --Max

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2010-01-18 FAMSCO meeting
by Max Spevack 17 Jan '10

17 Jan '10

Hi all, FAMSCO's next meeting will be on 2010-01-18 at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1. Agenda (URL): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_agenda Agenda (text): * Voting on the updated FAmSCo election rules -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules * Discussion of the old "FAmSCo statues draft" -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Statute_draft -- We need to make sure the goals of this page are clear, and after knowing those goals, we must decide what the proper action is. * Review action items from the previous meeting -- http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-07/fedora-meeting.2… * Discussion of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_tasks * Review FAMSCO tickets -- https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reo… -- discuss whether or not we can make non-budget tickets public. The reason they are private now is because sometimes there is personal information in the tickets. On behalf of FAMSCO, Max

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 17 Jan '10

17 Jan '10

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Member: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nullsys from the United Kingdom mentored by Robert Scheck Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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[Fwd: [veterans] LinuxTag 2010: Call for Papers due 22 January]
by Gerold 17 Jan '10

17 Jan '10

Hi Guys, who want to be the person who organizes this years Linuxtag for Fedora presence? Please reply to this message or cantact me private Thanks Gerold

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REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 17 Jan '10

17 Jan '10

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2010-01-17 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (17 jan.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Merci de répondre à ce message en cas d'indisponibilité. Thomas Canniot

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[Fwd: [FOSDEM] FOSDEM iPhone app]
by Gerold 16 Jan '10

16 Jan '10

FYI to all iPhone and iPOD Touch - User -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador in Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland FAS-Number: 9 Email: GeroldKa(a)fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9

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Red Hat Summit 2010
by Paul W. Frields 15 Jan '10

15 Jan '10

Hi all, I've drafted my initial thoughts for how Fedora's presence will work at the Red Hat Summit 2010, on the wiki here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Summit_2010 I've also added the event to the North American events calendar for FY11Q2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#NA-FY11Q2 The main website for the Summit itself is here: http://redhat.com/promo/summit/2010/ If you're planning to attend the Red Hat Summit, please feel free to add yourself to the attendee list. If you can *volunteer* to work at the Fedora booth and/or a dedicated Fedora room, please note that in the comments: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Summit_2010#Attendee_List -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Maker Faire in Durham NC this spring
by Mel Chua 14 Jan '10

14 Jan '10

There's a Maker Faire happening in Durham, NC this spring sometime in April/May (no set date yet). Paul's speech at FUDCon talked about reaching out to these sorts of DIY groups and events to interest new contributors, so this might be a good opportunity to pick up on that. I added it to the events table (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY11_Q1_.28March_2010_-_May_2010.29) in case folks are interested; it doesn't yet have an owner. --Mel

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Re: [Ambassadors] Various updates for all regions
by Mel Chua 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

>> (3) Planning continues for the >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events_FAD_2010 >> >> This FAD is not meant to be the place where specific events are planned, >> but rather it's an opportunity to make sure that all the processes >> around events, budget, reimbursements, etc. are clear and up to date, >> for all regions of the world. At least, that's my goal for the event. >> Mel Chua is leading the organization of this event. Remote participation >> will definitely be possible via IRC and gobby, and I think that >> Ambassadors all over the world will be interested in the results. Just a quick update on this : we have quick planning meetings (the last one took 10 minutes) on IRC in #fudcon-planning from 1700-1800 UTC (noon-1pm EST) on Mondays and 2100-2200 UTC (4-5pm EST) on Thursdays (our old FUDCon organizers meeting time). It's at the end of the month (starts 1/29) so if you're interested in attending either in-person or remotely, we need to know ASAP - ping the https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fudcon-planning list if you're interested. I'm guessing it'll be particularly helpful to have remote Ambassadors coming in to test and give feedback on the last day (Sunday) of the sprint - you folks are the experts on Events, after all. </soapbox> --Mel

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Member: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Colincunningham from the USA mentored by Larry Cafiero Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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FAmSCo Chair and Vice Chair for the next two release cycles
by Joerg Simon 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

Hello Fellows, i have the pleasure to announce that during the last FAmSCo Meeting Max Spevack was elected as the new FAmSCo Vice Chair and Joerg Simon was elected as the new FAmSCo Chair. cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 83, Issue 6
by xm4nfedoralinux . 11 Jan '10

11 Jan '10

I cant be at the ambassador training at 9AM...I have work! Is there another time frame later on? On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:58 AM, <fedora-ambassadors-list-request(a)redhat.com>wrote: > Send Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-ambassadors-list-request(a)redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-ambassadors-list-owner(a)redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-ambassadors-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) reminder > (Zoltan Hoppar) > 2. Re: Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) reminder > (Chris W Tucker) > 3. Re: Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) reminder > (Mar?a Leandro) > 4. Re: Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) reminder > (Colin Cunningham) > 5. A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, January > 10th, 2010 at 07:00 UTC :) (David Ramsey) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 23:18:43 +0100 > From: Zoltan Hoppar <hopparz(a)gmail.com> > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) > reminder > Message-ID: > <2f3d0f331001061418s4576a2ase3a81770d2b46ae0(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Me too. > > 2010/1/6 Larry Cafiero <larry.cafiero(a)gmail.com> > > > Ugh. 7 a.m. Pacific time. I'll be there, yawning. > > > > Larry Cafiero > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Jens Maucher <jensm(a)fedoraproject.org > >wrote: > > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Me too. > >> > >> Am 06.01.2010 22:26, schrieb Justin O'Brien: > >> > I plan to be there. > >> > > >> > On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 22:39 +0200, Giannis Konstantinidis wrote: > >> >> Thanks,I am interested.I will probably be there. > >> >> > >> >> 2010/1/5, Max Spevack <mspevack(a)redhat.com>: > >> >>> Hi Ambassadors, > >> >>> > >> >>> For any new ambassadors who are interested in attending the Fedora > >> >>> Classoom session on what it means to be a Fedora Ambassadors, and > some > >> >>> tips and tricks for how to be a good one, here is your reminder for > >> the > >> >>> next class. > >> >>> > >> >>> Thursday January 7th at 1500 UTC in #fedora-classroom on freenode > IRC. > >> >>> > >> >>> Fixed time and date link: > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=7&year=201… > >> >>> > >> >>> Help on IRC: > >> >>> > >> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo > >> >>> > >> >>> --Max > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > >> >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > >> > >> > >> - -- > >> jensm(a)fedoraproject.org > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JensMaucher > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > >> > >> iEYEARECAAYFAktFAYYACgkQzZrucUT/VOolzACfRApdqAfVF/6e79vC7rrjvoAV > >> IbkAn2GLRHKDYcukbeaRX/Hk5D9qNgY4 > >> =+og/ > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- > PGP: 06853DF7 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/2010010… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:22:02 -0600 (CST) > From: Chris W Tucker <cwtucker(a)ironcomm.com> > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) > reminder > Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001061620430.2088(a)localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Ah 900am I can do that :) > > > > Chris W Tucker > Ironcomm Inc > cwtucker()ironcomm()com > > > > > Thursday January 7th at 1500 UTC in #fedora-classroom on freenode IRC. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:28:20 -0430 > From: Mar?a Leandro <tatica(a)fedoraproject.org> > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) > reminder > Message-ID: > <27a6293b1001061558v3c256ba2lf0645b6af3d3a6b3(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Awesome!!! > > That's near my lunch time, I can be there!!! > > 2010/1/6 Chris W Tucker <cwtucker(a)ironcomm.com> > > > Ah 900am I can do that :) > > > > > > > > Chris W Tucker > > Ironcomm Inc > > cwtucker()ironcomm()com > > > > > > > >> Thursday January 7th at 1500 UTC in #fedora-classroom on freenode IRC. > >> > >> > >> > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/2010010… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 23:16:02 -0500 > From: Colin Cunningham <colin.e.cunningham(a)gmail.com> > To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) > reminder > Message-ID: > <8fe86fe71001062016w7d8318eaje4a8d08efc7ee986(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey all, I'll be there as well. > > Colin Cunningham > > 2010/1/6 Mar?a Leandro <tatica(a)fedoraproject.org> > > > Awesome!!! > > > > That's near my lunch time, I can be there!!! > > > > 2010/1/6 Chris W Tucker <cwtucker(a)ironcomm.com> > > > > Ah 900am I can do that :) > >> > >> > >> > >> Chris W Tucker > >> Ironcomm Inc > >> cwtucker()ironcomm()com > >> > >> > >> > >>> Thursday January 7th at 1500 UTC in #fedora-classroom on freenode IRC. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > tatica > > Maria Gracia Leandro > > http://www.tatica.org > > http://www.fedora-ve.org > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > > LinuxUser= 440285 > > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/2010010… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 02:58:03 -0500 > From: David Ramsey <diamond_ramsey(a)hotmail.com> > To: "fedora-ambassadors-list redhat.com" > <fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com> > Subject: [Ambassadors] A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on > Sunday, January 10th, 2010 at 07:00 UTC :) > Message-ID: <BLU110-W9B0647146CEE1AC4D41BBE5710(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" > > > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings. :) > > A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, January 10th, 2010 at > 07:00 UTC :) > > ======================================== > > Day : Sunday, January 10th, 2010 > > Time : 07:00 UTC > > See the following URL to check and verify your own timing based on your > location - > > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=01&day=11&year=2… > > On Freenode IRC Channel : #fedora-meeting > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2010-01-11 > > For any proposed changes to the draft agenda, then please update - > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2010-01-11#Agenda > > Help on IRC - > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo > > ======================================== > > I hope that you may be able to attend. :) > > Sending positive Fedora 12 energy from my computer to yours. :v) > > Please have a great day and an enjoyable week! :~) > > Thank You > Sincerely > =-=-=-=-= > - David - > =-=-=-=-= > David Ramsey > --------------------------------- > ???? > ???????? > 10 people 10 colors > Different strokes for different folks > --------------------------------- > = > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey(a)fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey > * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) > kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE > * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - > 2.6.32.2-15.fc13.i686.PAE > With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate > 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. > = > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > End of Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 83, Issue 6 > ****************************************************** >

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[ FOSDEM 2010 ] Miniconf devroom schedule
by Frederic Hornain 11 Jan '10

11 Jan '10

Dear *, Below the planning for the Miniconf devroom. In Bold, talks associated with Fedora speakers proposals. * * *Room 1 (H.1301):* ================================================ Saturday: --------- 13:00-14:00: video team set-up 1: 14:00-14:45: Dave Neary: The Maemo Community Council: a case-study in governance. *2: 14:45-15:30: Max Spevack: Fedora Governance.* 3: 15:30-16:15: Petteri Räty: Distribution HR management. 16:15-16:45: break 4: 16:45-17:30: Vincent Untz: Working with GNOME upstream. 5: 17:30-18:15: mobile distributions and upstream challenges 6: 18:15-19:00: Petteri Räty: How to be a good upstream. Sunday: ------- 09:00-10:00: video team set-up 7: 10:00-10:45: Bruno Cornec: Continuous Packaging with Project-Builder.org. 8: 10:45-11:30: Guillaume Rousse: the youri project. 9: 11:30-12:15: Adrian Schröter: Cross-distro packaging experience with the openSUSE Buildservice. 10: 12:15-13:00: Sune Vuorela: Shared libraries in Debian. 11: 13:00-13:45: Ralf Treinen and Stefano Zacchiroli: Cross-distro dependency resolution. 13:45-14:45: lunch break 12: 14:45-15:30: Jeff Johnson: Transactionally Protected Package Management. 13: 15:30-16:15: John Thomson: Transactional Roll-backs and Upgrades. 14: 16:15-17:00: Wouter Verhelst: Debian Secrets: power tools for power users. *Room 2 (H.1302):* ================================================ Saturday: --------- 15: 13:00-13:45: Klaas Freitag: Hermes Message Dispatching. 16: 13:45-14:30: Stephan Kulow: Clicfs as perfect live CD file system 17: 14:30-15:15: Some SUSE fellow: MirrorBrain 18: 15:15-16:15: Ralph Angenendt: Infrastructure round table 16:00-16:45: break 19: 16:45-17:30: Anne NICOLAS: translations of package descriptions *20: 17:30-18:15: Thomas Canniot and Armel Kermovant: Fedora-fr and upstream * * French communitieis.* *21: 18:15-19:00: Sandro Mathys and Marcus Moeller : Spacewalk.* Sunday: ------- 09:00-10:00: nothing 21: 10:00-10:45: Gabor Szabo: packaging perl and CPAN modules. 22: 10:45-11:30: Dominique Dumont: Config::Model and configuration upgrades during package upgrade. 23: 11:30-12:15: Nicolas Pierron: the configuration system of NixOS. 24: 12:15-13:00: Thomas Koch: Packaging with topgit. 25: 13:00-13:45: Pavol Rusnak: RPM packaging collaboration. 13:45-14:45: lunch break 26: 14:45-15:30: Christopher Hofmann: Distribution Image building with KIWI. 27: 15:30-16:15: Some SUSE fellow: SUSE Studio 28: 15:45-16:30: Harald Hoyer: Dracut - a generic, modular initramfs generation tool. Sorry, if some of you are a little bit disappointed however it was a difficult project this year. Let's hope, we will do a better job for the next edition. Kind Regards Frederic -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open(a)laptop.org

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REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 10 Jan '10

10 Jan '10

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2010-01-10 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (10 jan.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Merci de répondre à ce message en cas d'indisponibilité. Thomas Canniot

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REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 10 Jan '10

10 Jan '10

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2010-01-10 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (10 jan.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Merci de répondre à ce message en cas d'indisponibilité. Thomas Canniot

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OpenExpo Winterthur 24.-25. March 2010 Switzerland
by Fabian Affolter 09 Jan '10

09 Jan '10

Hi all, The next OpenExpo [1] will take place at Berne (Switzerland). The date is 24th and 25th of March 2010. The advantage of more people from Fedora around a table is that we will be able to cover more topics (from packaging over artwork to translation) and a strong presence there can strength the Fedora Project in Switzerland. If you will be there and want to give a hand at the booth, please add yourself to the list of the Booth personal [2]. Kind regards, Fabian [1] http://www.openexpo.ch/ [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OpenExpo/OpenExpo2010_Berne

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Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) logs
by Mathieu Bridon 08 Jan '10

08 Jan '10

Hi, I wanted to read the logs of the session, but it looks like Meetbot died during the session. So with Nirik, we replayed the meeting in Meetbot, and now they are where they would have been uploaded in normal conditions: - minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-classroom/2010-01-07/fedora-classro… - logs: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-classroom/2010-01-07/fedora-classro… Now I'll go and do what I should have done instead: actually read the logs and learn from the Master. :) Hope that helps. Best regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon

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2010-01-07 FAmSCo Meeting Summary
by Joerg Simon 08 Jan '10

08 Jan '10

http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-07/fedora-meeting.2… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-07/fedora-meeting.2… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-07/fedora-meeting.2… thanks all -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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2010-01-06 EMEA Ambassadors meeting summary
by Max Spevack 07 Jan '10

07 Jan '10

http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-06/fedora-meeting.2… Thanks all, for your time. --Max

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Fedora Classroom (Ambassador training) reminder
by Max Spevack 07 Jan '10

07 Jan '10

Hi Ambassadors, For any new ambassadors who are interested in attending the Fedora Classoom session on what it means to be a Fedora Ambassadors, and some tips and tricks for how to be a good one, here is your reminder for the next class. Thursday January 7th at 1500 UTC in #fedora-classroom on freenode IRC. Fixed time and date link: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=7&year=201… Help on IRC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo --Max

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Any ambassadors near Copenhagen?
by Max Spevack 06 Jan '10

06 Jan '10

If so, Robert Scheck would like to meet you. Find him on IRC. :) We're looking to make this event as strong as we can, and to start to build up more of a presence in the Scandanavia region. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Open_Source_Days --Max

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[FOSDEM'10] Mozilla/Fedora cooperation talk for FOSDEM'10 needed.
by Frederic Hornain 06 Jan '10

06 Jan '10

Dear *, If you know someone how would be interested to talk about Mozilla/Fedora cooperation or other talk in relation with Fedora and Mozilla projects, please let me know. Because, I could have a slot in the Mozilla devroom @ FOSDEM'10 for you or him. Thanks for your help and your time. Best Regards Frederic ;) -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open(a)laptop.org

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Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting Recap
by Scott McBrien 06 Jan '10

06 Jan '10

Hello everyone, Pretty calm meeting last night, summary: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-06/fedora-meeting.2… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-06/fedora-meeting.2… Complete log included: 02:01:30 <StabbyMc> #startmeeting 02:01:30 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jan 6 02:01:30 2010 UTC. The chair is StabbyMc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:01:30 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:02:03 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora North America Ambassadors - Roll Call 02:02:12 <StabbyMc> .fas smcbrien 02:02:13 <zodbot> StabbyMc: smcbrien '' <scott(a)mcbrien.net> 02:02:24 <Ac-town> .fas Ac-town 02:02:25 <zodbot> Ac-town: actown 'Derrick Dymock' <actown(a)gmail.com> 02:02:36 <djf_jeff> .fas jfsaucier 02:02:37 <zodbot> djf_jeff: jfsaucier 'Jean-Francois Saucier' <jfsaucier(a)infoglobe.ca> 02:02:47 <ke4qqq> .fas ke4qqq 02:02:48 <zodbot> ke4qqq: ke4qqq 'David Nalley' <david(a)gnsa.us> 02:02:50 <Arsenick> .fas Arsenick 02:02:52 <zodbot> Arsenick: arsenick 'René Jr Purcell' <rene.purcell(a)gmail.com> 02:02:56 <threethirty> .fas threethirty 02:02:57 <zodbot> threethirty: threethirty 'Justin O'Brien' <three(a)threethirty.us> 02:03:14 <etank> .fas etank 02:03:15 <zodbot> etank: kenop 'Chetan Kumar' <chetanku(a)gmail.com> - spyrkob 'Bartosz Spyrko-Śmietanko' <bspyrkos(a)redhat.com> - thomasthetank 'thomas strickland' <strickland.thomas(a)gmail.com> - etank 'Eric Lake' <ericlake(a)gmail.com> - swetank 'SWETANK KUMAR SAHA' <swetank(a)aol.in> - ketankumar 'ketankumar patil' <ketan_bhag(a)yahoo.co.in> 02:04:20 <StabbyMc> Anyone else for roll call? 02:04:32 <lcafiero> .fas lcafiero 02:04:32 <zodbot> lcafiero: lcafiero 'Larry Cafiero' <larrycafiero(a)cruzio.com> 02:04:40 <lcafiero> present and accounted for, sir. 02:04:49 <StabbyMc> and early no less! 02:05:01 <lcafiero> traffic laws, pffft. 02:05:19 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora North America Ambassadors - Announcements 02:05:26 <StabbyMc> Anyone have any announcements to share? 02:06:28 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora North America Ambassadors - Events 02:06:42 <StabbyMc> djf_jeff: how'd your radio bit go? 02:07:12 <djf_jeff> StabbyMc: I think it go pretty well, that was a fun experience 02:07:34 <StabbyMc> Is there a podcast or recording somewhere? 02:07:49 * StabbyMc would love to listen. 02:08:06 <vwbusguy> .fas vwbusguy 02:08:10 <zodbot> vwbusguy: vwbusguy 'Scott Williams' <vwfoxguru(a)gmail.com> 02:08:12 <djf_jeff> StabbyMc: yes, but only in french 02:08:28 <StabbyMc> boo. ;-) 02:08:43 <PhrkOnLsh> .fasi rrix 02:08:46 <StabbyMc> Is it posted to the Events page wiki? 02:08:50 <PhrkOnLsh> .fas rrix 02:08:51 <zodbot> PhrkOnLsh: rrix 'Ryan Rix' <ry(a)n.rix.si> 02:08:55 <djf_jeff> if anyone is interested : http://lavoixdulibre.info/ 02:08:58 <ke4qqq> djf_jeff: can you post a link to it for those who do speak french? 02:09:32 <djf_jeff> exactly at this page : http://www.lavoixdulibre.info/emissions/baladodiffusion.html 02:09:33 <StabbyMc> awesome djf_jeff :-) 02:09:37 * vwbusguy wonders if Google translate can do voice 02:10:03 <StabbyMc> anyone else got events stuff to report, or need help on? 02:10:12 <StabbyMc> The only big one I know coming up is Scale. 02:10:28 <ke4qqq> Events FAD is tentatively happening last week of Jan 02:10:43 <ke4qqq> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events_FAD_2010 02:11:02 <PhrkOnLsh> I'm going to camp kde in two weeks. hopefully i'll do some ambassador-ing :) 02:11:40 <VileGent> sorry for being late 02:11:44 <StabbyMc> PhrkOnLsh: is it on the Events page? 02:11:54 <PhrkOnLsh> nope, it's not. I will add it 02:12:24 <lcafiero> Announcement: Felton LUG on Saturday. F12 is the topic. yours truly is the speaker. 02:12:36 <lcafiero> no resources other than what I have are needed. 02:12:40 * lcafiero bows 02:13:16 <StabbyMc> lcafiero: how long have you been holding onto that one? 02:13:26 <vwbusguy> speaking of resources, where are we with media? 02:13:40 <vwbusguy> and by media, I mean f12 02:13:41 <lcafiero> A long time. I also have peninsula lug later this month -- bigger deal in the Silicon Valley. 02:13:48 <ke4qqq> vwbusguy: no change last I heard 02:13:52 <ke4qqq> spevack: ping 02:14:08 <lcafiero> I thought spevack said he couldn't make it tonight. 02:14:14 <LinuxCode> ke4qqq, max sent an email earlier saying he wouldnt be here 02:14:17 <StabbyMc> Was it in spevack's whole world update he sent out today? I neglected to read it. 02:14:35 <LinuxCode> StabbyMc, well, he put some important info in there for you guys 02:14:37 <ke4qqq> ahhh - missed that email 02:14:44 * LinuxCode isnt even a NA ambassador 02:14:47 * lcafiero saw it 02:14:58 <ke4qqq> StabbyMc: I don't recall seeing an update on NA media 02:14:59 <StabbyMc> LinuxCode: no doubt, I'm a slacker. 02:15:13 <lcafiero> there wasn't 02:15:44 <ke4qqq> by 'last I heard' I mean right before new years 02:15:48 <StabbyMc> Last I heard, RH hadn't paid $media-house; since they just came back from shutdown, I'm not surprised that there would be no change. 02:16:13 <vwbusguy> and we have no eta 02:16:15 <vwbusguy> ? 02:16:34 <StabbyMc> I suppose when Big Daddy RH opens the purse strings. 02:16:54 * vwbusguy sends his wife over 02:16:54 <ke4qqq> vwbusguy: none last I heard - StabbyMc has the right timeline 02:17:09 <vwbusguy> wait, that came out wrong 02:17:11 <StabbyMc> I've been talking with inode0 about things we could do to keep this from happening again, but I need to discuss with spevack. 02:17:19 <lcafiero> heh @ vwbusguy 02:17:57 <StabbyMc> Unfortunately RH Finance is a riddle wrapped in an enigma, encapsulated in a giant ball of fscked. 02:18:17 <vwbusguy> As far as SCaLE stuff, I have a list based on wiki and names given in chan, and I'll email everyone whose going with information as I get it 02:18:17 * etank writes that one down for later use 02:18:25 <cwtucker> +1 02:18:32 <vwbusguy> We are waiting for Max to approve budget 02:18:41 <ke4qqq> vwbusguy: huh? 02:18:46 <vwbusguy> and registration codes should be available for volunteers "within a few weeks" 02:18:51 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora North America Ambassadors - Budget Review 02:18:55 <StabbyMc> Since we're already there ;-) 02:18:57 * lcafiero will talk budget in a minute 02:19:14 * vwbusguy notes he has to leave in 2 minutes 02:19:25 <StabbyMc> lcafiero/vwbusguy have at it. 02:19:31 <lcafiero> or whenever you all are ready. 02:19:34 <lcafiero> OK. 02:20:24 <lcafiero> Using the information I had on hand, I put up a budget on the SCALE 8x wiki 02:20:28 <lcafiero> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCaLE_8x_Event 02:20:58 <lcafiero> a provisional budget of $2700 02:21:07 <lcafiero> provisional because there are a couple of wildcards. 02:21:21 <ke4qqq> ? 02:21:47 * lcafiero yields to the Senator from Liberty. ke4qqq 02:21:49 <ke4qqq> can you tell us what you mean by SCaLE sponsorship - you mean sponsoring the conference itself? 02:22:08 * vwbusguy apologizes for leaving early, I'll try to meet up in chan after class. 02:22:22 <lcafiero> Unless we have $19,000, no. What I'm talking about is sponsoring at some level as we do in other events. 02:22:33 <ke4qqq> also - does the FAD need funding 02:22:53 <lcafiero> As far as the room goes, no. We have gotten the room on Friday. 02:23:03 <ke4qqq> food or other needs? 02:23:30 <lcafiero> If I could finish the first of a couple of financial wildcards. 02:23:37 <lcafiero> It might answer these questions. 02:23:48 <ke4qqq> ahhh, I apologize, please continue 02:23:57 <lcafiero> No apology necessary. 02:24:05 <lcafiero> I just don't type fast enough :-) 02:24:47 <lcafiero> The $1000 is arbitrary -- we can sponsor at a lower level and use the funds for other things that vwbusguy and I have forgotten to budget 02:24:52 <lcafiero> (mostly I forgot, but anyway) 02:25:27 <lcafiero> not to mention helping out with travel for those presenting 02:26:04 <lcafiero> Also, the second is that this is not final and needs tweaking and input from those attending and not would be welcome. 02:27:13 <lcafiero> So that's about it for the moment -- and as vwbusguy said I went over some procedural stuff with Max in an e-mail today to which I am awaiting an answer. 02:27:49 <lcafiero> Specifically, if -- and if so, how -- to perhaps utilize commarch funds. 02:27:56 <ke4qqq> who are the 4 rooms for - I only see three attendees listed 02:28:00 <lcafiero> Questions. 02:28:07 <lcafiero> Acutally, the list is not up to date. 02:28:46 <lcafiero> It's quaid, VileGent (didn't forget you this time), herlo, jds2001, me, stickster (possibly), 02:28:57 <lcafiero> and I think there may be someone I'm forgetting. 02:29:06 <lcafiero> you're going ke4qqq? 02:29:24 <ke4qqq> tentatively yes, but being funded externally 02:29:28 <lcafiero> Ah, got it. 02:30:59 <lcafiero> But again, this is not final, and the Q4 budget closes at the end of Feb. From what I can see of the NA budget, there's only been $3500 of $8000 spent, if memory serves. 02:32:03 <ke4qqq> casebadges and clings aren't in that budget list - and it's ~3800 iirc 02:32:09 <StabbyMc> Deduct another $800 from that... 02:32:12 <StabbyMc> for Clings 02:32:14 <inode0> plus t-shirts are supposed to be 02:32:15 <ke4qqq> but yeah - still should be able to accommodate that 02:32:22 <lcafiero> of those listed above, quaid, herlo, jds2001 and I are presenting, and stickster could keynote. 02:32:31 <lcafiero> could, he emphasizes. 02:32:56 <lcafiero> Hmmm. OK. Still it looks like we come under the wire. 02:33:04 * lcafiero thought that case badges were commarch expense. 02:33:13 <threethirty> ? 02:33:24 * threethirty is new, what is commarch 02:33:24 <lcafiero> threethirty, go. 02:33:28 <StabbyMc> Q4 budget has to last until the end of February... 02:33:29 <inode0> will be taken from each region's budget 02:33:33 <lcafiero> Oh, sorry. Community Architecture 02:33:36 <threethirty> ty 02:33:46 <ke4qqq> threethirty: it's a group within RHT that gives us money 02:33:47 <VileGent> lcafiero, and marketing is having a FAD in March in NC so they are going after $3k for that 02:33:56 <lcafiero> Right. It's january now and SCaLE is Feb. 19-22 02:34:00 <inode0> FADs aren't our budget 02:34:10 <ke4qqq> VileGent: that's a new quarter and generally fads are external to our budget 02:34:16 <VileGent> but it does come out of CA budget 02:35:08 <inode0> everything does in the end, I think when we say CA budget we mean "not our budget" :) 02:35:09 <ke4qqq> yes but we get little or no say so on what does or doesn't come out of CA budget - the important thing is have expenses planned well in advance 02:37:00 <lcafiero> Right, and again the sponsor amount is the linchpin here because it can be less. 02:37:22 <lcafiero> However, we should support those events that give us a venue to promote Fedora. 02:38:38 <lcafiero> Anyhow, I just wanted to put that out there for vetting by those who are more experienced in budget matters than I am 02:39:27 <StabbyMc> As long as we can still fill the swag coffers some, and Max approves it ... 02:39:50 <lcafiero> +1 02:40:42 <lcafiero> Unless there are any other question, I can yield the floor to the chair. 02:40:47 <lcafiero> question=questions 02:41:40 <StabbyMc> In other news, Clings should be ordered and paid this week; heads up inode0 ;-) 02:42:38 <etank> +1 on clings 02:42:49 <lcafiero> what etank said woo hoo! 02:42:57 <StabbyMc> Is dnhodgson here? 02:44:27 <StabbyMc> Any other budget stuff? 02:45:01 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora North America Ambassadors - Open Floor 02:45:02 <PhrkOnLsh> well about that leftover funds... I could use a vacation. ;) 02:45:04 <jds2001> my flight is looking to be $270ish right now, any help appreciated :) 02:45:10 <StabbyMc> Ok, open floor :-) 02:45:29 <jds2001> but to get that, i have to stay sunday night and come back monday 02:45:38 <jds2001> sunday flights out are crazy expensive 02:46:03 <jds2001> like $299 vs. $129 - more than a hotel room 02:47:46 <lcafiero> OK, jds2001, we'll talk. 02:48:16 * lcafiero could use some guidance on travel expenses other than lodging. 02:50:44 * ke4qqq sees no difference in lodging and travel 02:51:45 <lcafiero> OK, that's a good point, ke4qqq 02:52:10 <threethirty> ke4qqq just doesnt want to sleep in his car 02:52:18 <ke4qqq> that said - I'd personally only feel comfortable paying for speakers or key fad members. - flying people all over the world to attend an event in and of itself isn't scalable. 02:52:24 <lcafiero> Oh, he won't threethirty 02:52:44 <ke4qqq> threethirty: they let me hang out in the lobby sofas last year :) 02:52:46 <lcafiero> Well, that's the kind of thing I'd like clarification on 02:52:51 <threethirty> ke4qqq: lol 02:52:52 <VileGent> jds2001, and i thought $300 for mine is cheap 02:53:20 <jds2001> JFK-LAX is always crazy cheap 02:53:31 <jds2001> was for me last year to go to SCaLE too. 02:53:53 <lcafiero> jds2001 is probably going to be presenting, too (hint hint) 02:54:01 <ke4qqq> lcafiero: ask away - though that opinion is what I'd personally submit budgets for- not a policy statement or anything 02:54:51 <lcafiero> Right, but I've only done two -- 2009 LFNW and 2009 OSCON -- and I think lodging was paid for but travel was a greyer area. 02:55:12 <lcafiero> travel meaning getting from point a to point b and back. 02:55:25 <jds2001> it's a "how critical is this person to the event" type measurement, IMHO 02:55:31 <lcafiero> OK 02:55:33 <ke4qqq> I don't see the costs really being different, from my perspective. 02:55:37 <ke4qqq> +1 jds2001 02:56:27 <lcafiero> For the sake of the open part of the meeting, can we take this discussion back to #fedora-ambassadors afterward? 02:56:37 <ke4qqq> yep 02:57:08 <StabbyMc> Any other open floor business? 02:57:47 <StabbyMc> Closing the meeting in 02:57:49 <StabbyMc> 5 02:57:50 <lcafiero> I missed ordering a shirt today, but will do so tomorrow. the white button shirt 02:57:57 * lcafiero sits down again 02:57:57 <StabbyMc> Yea! 02:57:59 <StabbyMc> 4 02:58:06 <StabbyMc> 3 02:58:14 <StabbyMc> 2 02:58:17 <StabbyMc> 1 02:58:22 <StabbyMc> #endmeeting

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Various updates for all regions
by Max Spevack 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

Hi all, I have a conflict with tonight's NA Ambassadors meeting, so here's a few updates from me before that. (1) The next Fedora Ambassadors Training session in Fedora Classroom will be on Thursday at 1500 UTC. See a separate emali (2) 10,000 case badges have been ordered, which we'll be sharing with all parts of the world. I'll bring a bunch with me to FOSDEM and then distribute them among EMEA Ambassadors, and I'll mail some to other parts of the world as well. (3) Planning continues for the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events_FAD_2010 This FAD is not meant to be the place where specific events are planned, but rather it's an opportunity to make sure that all the processes around events, budget, reimbursements, etc. are clear and up to date, for all regions of the world. At least, that's my goal for the event. Mel Chua is leading the organization of this event. Remote participation will definitely be possible via IRC and gobby, and I think that Ambassadors all over the world will be interested in the results. (3) Fedora 12 media in EMEA -- it looks like all of the shipments were made to folks in different areas. Further followup that is needed, now that the vacations are over: * Working with Sascha to figure out the plan for future media in EMEA, and allowing him to have more involvement with the production company. That's my responsibility to follow-up. * Making sure that we have media in the right places for upcoming events. FOSDEM and CLT, in particular. Joerg/Sascha/Frederic -- are we in good shape for those events? Do we have enough media for both, and a plan to get it to the event? (4) One of the things that is also on my TODO list is to get a wiki page written up that has the process for getting media produced in all regions of the world -- since we're probably going to be looking at new processes in both EMEA and NA, it makes sense to just write it all down in one place. --Max

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Reminder: Fedora North American Ambassadors Meeting tonight! 9:00p Eastern
by Scott McBrien 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

Happy New Year everyone. We're going to have our first FedoraNA Ambassadors meeting tonight at 9:00p Eastern in #fedora-meeting. Hope to see you all there! Don't forget to update the agenda page with your items you want discussed: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2010-1-5 Best Regards, Scott

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REMINDER : Fedora EMEA Ambassadors Meeting tomorrow!
by Pierros Papadeas 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

Ladies and gentlemen happy New Year! Don't you remember there is an EMEA Ambassador meeting tomorrow (Europe, the Middle East, and Africa) on #fedora-meeting ? Day : Wednesday, January 6th, 2009 Time : 20:00 UTC (check [1] to know your own time depending on your country) Channel : #fedora-meeting Meeting agenda (add your topic before the meeting please) [2] We will be having mainly a FOSDEM specific followup to our previous meeting given that the event owners will show up. So update your agendas, and don't forget to join us :) Kind regards, Pierros [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=6&month=1&year=201… [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2010-1-6 -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros(a)papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Frankiemangoa from Kenya mentored by Nayyar Ahmad https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Derikonto from France mentored by Mathieu Bridon https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Threethirty from the USA mentored by David Nalley Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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Food for thought. Should we rethink out join page?
by susmit shannigrahi 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

[x-post - apologies] Do we need to rethink? http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/?utm_source=gsnippet&utm_content=mofo1&ut… -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

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Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo?
by inode0 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

I'm not sure about the election history of FAmSCo, maybe someone who has been around a while can explain how it used to work, but I'm guessing range voting has been used in the past two FAmSCo elections. Are ambassadors happy with this method of electing the ambassador leadership? Aside from the voting method, are there other things related to the election or composition of FAmSCo that ambassadors think would improve either the process or the constitution of the steering committee? John

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REMINDER: EMEA Ambassador Meeting this Wednesday !
by Pierros Papadeas 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

Ladies and gentlemen, Don't you remember there is an EMEA Ambassador meeting next Wednesday (Europe, the Middle East, and Africa) on #fedora-meeting ? Day : Wednesday, December 16th, 2009 Time : 20:00 UTC (check [1] to know your own time depending on your country) Channel : #fedora-meeting Meeting agenda (add your topic before the meeting please) [2] Update your agendas, and don't forget to join us. Kind regards, Pierros [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=16&month=12&year=2… [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-12-16 -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros(a)papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode

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Brand Fuel Baseball Cap manufacturer
by Ryan Rix 02 Jan '10

02 Jan '10

Hey Max, all, Ambassadors were discussing in IRC about ordering some Fedora embroidered baseball caps for event swag, and the general consensus was that the Brand Fuel caps were really nice, and it would be cool if we could get them ordered from their manufacturer. Do you (Max) or anyone on either marketing or ambassadors have any details on the manufacturer that Brand Fuel uses and how we could get in contact with them? Thanks all, Ryan Rix -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonaleash(a)gmail.com -> ry(a)n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonaleash(a)gmail.com | MSN: phrkonaleash(a)yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash | Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: PhrkOnLsh(a)irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels.

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Pictures of the new Fedora 12 Media
by Sascha Thomas Spreitzer 01 Jan '10

01 Jan '10

Hello Ambassadors, please find attached the link to the pictures of our just arrived new Media. http://picasaweb.google.com/sascha.spreitzer/Fedora12Media merry christmas and a happy new year, best wishes, Sascha

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Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Joerg Simon 01 Jan '10

01 Jan '10

Dear Ambassadors, let´s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Member: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Cwtucker from the USA mentored by Ben Williams Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688

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OSCON Call for Proposals Now Open
by Kevin Higgins 01 Jan '10

01 Jan '10

OSCON, the O'Reilly Open Source Convention July 19 - 23, 2010 Oregon Convention Center Portland, OR http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1z6vqe2gib3muftdm7gevnvjou1imluto4nphda30 Faster, Freer, Smarter: Whatever your Goal, Make It Happen with Open Source More than 2,500 experts, developers, sys admins, and hackers will meet up at OSCON 2010 to explore the tools, services, and platforms that make up the vibrant open source ecosystem. Join us! The OSCON Call for Participation is now open. If you have winning techniques, favorite lifesavers, war stories, productivity tips, or other ideas to share, we want to hear from you. We're especially on the look-out for ways to do more with less, design and usability best practices, mobile device innovations, cloud computing, parallelization, open standards and data, open source in government, business models, and beyond. Speak up about the freedom--and opportunity--of open source at OSCON 2010. Submit your proposal by February 1, 2010 at: http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1zgho9r8tiallvan68v10o80nvpncccvrj47vp6j0

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The 4f-problematic of Fedora.
by Josephine Tannhäuser 01 Jan '10

01 Jan '10

Hi all, I have some problems with the definitions of the 4f's. friends - this is a clear thing , we are all friends, the world is pink and there are no conflicts (until proven otherwise) features - is a clear thing to, fedora is a distribution huge amount of features (perhaps not enough features ;-) we need more). first - there is my first problem. This is like a racing duel with other distributions. We can not win on all sectors. This is more a destination, our goal.... We WANT to be the first, but we are not always the first. freedom - This one is my biggest problem. What's the definition of freedom? The definition of freedom, which was definied by the FSF, formed the understanding of freedom in the whole world. And the FSF (Richard Stallman himself) said, that fedora is not free. So what's the current understanding of freedom in the fedoraproject? I haven't found arguments to discuss with someone about it. -- Josephine "Fine" Tannhäuser 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686.PAE

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