as I feel frustration about my work in Fedora and I do not agree with
todays Fedora governance and ruling system I am hereby taking the
logical step of stopping all my active contributions to this project.
One major point is that I feel exploited by RedHats installation of
the Fedora Project and I do not feel it is ok to contribute for a
companys benefit that is not equal to its project investment.
Thats why I am saying goodbye, with the following sentence;
"Microsoft is the evil we know. Novell and Oracle is the evil we got
to know and Canonical and RedHat is the evil we will get to know."
The duties I am leaving open and which will be impacting are;
- EMEA media production (F14 still open?)
- Dual layer DVD approach
- some packages
Thank you for the friends I met and made and thank you about the
lessons I learned about OpenSource and capitalism.
For the sake of freedom I will be shifting my spare time to projects
which are ruled by the poeple for the people.
> 5. Why does board apply higher standards for hosting, testing,
> artwork and trademark approval than for any other spin that was
> ever approved?
Here was my biggest concern. I want Fedora Ambassadors handing out
something that is produced by the Project as a whole, not by an
incredibly clever individual who had a good idea. While we can argue
semantics of "is this a spin or not?" the fact remains that by handing
it out at Fedora booths at events, as Ambassadors, in the recepient's
mind, they are getting a Fedora install media. As such, it should be
of high quality, and represent the best that Fedora can produce. I'd
like to think that the media produced in the past has met this same
level of scrutiny, as part of the standard release process we've had
in place since before it was called Fedora. It feels like extra
burden only because the idea sprouted quite late in the release
process schedule, such that the standard methods and levels of
scrutiny, which are normally applied by many people over months, was
requested to be done over hours or days.
I'm hoping this begins a constructive conversation about what we would
ideally like to hand out to people at events, representing the
Project's best efforts, given the newly relaxed constraint that we've
got 9GB to work with now instead of ~4.3GB. I thank you for doing the
research to show that financially, double-layer media is now
affordable, and for proving one method that can take advantage of this
>>>> Congrats to the new mentors. Just wanted to note that others who have
>>>> applied (before) for being a mentor have been told that no more
>>>> mentors are needed e.g. in EMEA and now two new have been elected.
>>>> that I disagree with the candidates, but with the election procedure.
>>> That makes a liar of me - right?
>>> Do you think that maybe sometimes people change their plan of life and
>>> move to other regions - and asked me to not tell anyone before? But that
>>> we should prepare ourself for his moving and find new mentors?
>> It's not only about you, Robert and Mathieu stated the same. And it's
>> not specially about me, others asked to mentor, too.
>> It's more about communication. Clear guidelines and statements would
>> improve that a lot.
> The process is clear: new mentors are **appointed** by existing mentors
> and FAmSCo, based on the work they have been doing.
> It might not be perfect, but it is definitely clear.
So is it also clear how many mentoring slots are available for each
region? And why ppl are told there are no free slots available
(instead of we do not want you to be a mentor, because ...) and others
are voted in a few weeks later?
I am writting on behalf of Alejandro Perez, Ambassador from Panama. He
is extending invitation to Fudcon LATAM to be held on 2011 on Pananma.
The registration process is open on the wiki:
We in Central America are very exited about this opportunity and know
that we have a big task at hand. We are working on make this gathering
a memorable event.
Of course, we are counting on all of you for the fun, but also expecting help.
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On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 10:40 +0100, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote:
> I agree on Jeroens statements.
> I have come to the conclusion and took my actions by that, that the
> borders, command and control I was facing inside Fedora are impacting
> Fedora Linux's evolvement in a way that is not the intention of a
> Linux distribution that is free as in freedom.
> Maybe I am too R.M.S. alike on this (oh please forgive me), but
> personally in my core beliefs I can not work further with Fedora
> without a twinge of conscience.
You're still here.
hereby i withdraw my FAmSCo Self-Nomination.
You deserve a short explanation.
But first - i want not make a big deal or the next drama out of this, so
PLEASE RESPECT THIS AND DO NOT RESPOND TO MY STATEMENT!!!
I think about this for a while and spoke with fellow friends and my
secret guru. I know, i may will disappoint people who set their trust in me.
I will make it very clear, i will not flee my duties - i never have! And
this is not out of frustration!
I do this because i believe i can do more good for Fedora on other
places, unbiased of a Role as a FAmSCo Member, sorry for not coming up
I have done the Ambassdors Administration and Mentoring Process work
long time before my first FAmSCo election and as long as FAmSCo accepts
me in this Role, i will happy to work in FAmA and leave the decissions
to improve Mentoring Process to FAmSCo - but i will give my oppinion on
it, if asked.
Of course i will also follow my duties as Ambassador and this is one
reason for my withdraw - if you look at my Events History
the Events i could support this year dropped a lot - and i want to go
back to do the streetwork.
With this upcoming election we proof that we are a healthy living group
and have more great candidates than ever - for me the best time to step
Most of the Candidates are a much better natural leaders than i am - and
i already nominated some of them.
I also learned that segregation of duty regarding FAmA can help to take
emotion out of the decission making process and i am sure the new
elected FAmSCo will absolut capable of.
I promise i will follow the goals i stated in my nomination independend
from drawing back my FAmSCo Nomination and i also will do my best to
present the Ambassdor Group in the Fedora Board in the case that i get
thanks for all your support!!!
Joerg (kital) Simon
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Hello to all EMEA Ambassadors!
As we are close to the F14 media production (one way or another), we
need some people to step up as primary distribution points so we can
get those media shipped to 4-5 major anchor locations throughout EMEA.
Then the distribution will be handled locally and/or through events.
I am thinking of UK, Italy, Greece, Hungary and some African Country
for the points, so if your are an Ambassador willing to help in these
countries please step up replying to this thread or send me your
address in person.( I have the action item to gather those addresses
So far Christoph was kind enough to volunteer as our primary media
point and also Germany's (and Swiss I guess) distributor. Obviously I
am willing to handle the Greek point.
Thanks in advance and keep in mind that we are *not* talking about
media requests but rather for media distribution mid-points that
involves work and responsibility :) You will be asked to ship media
(possibly on your own small expense) and also re-distribute them to
other Ambassadors through regional (or not) events.
Waiting for your answers!
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liknus @ GRnet , Freenode
We started a magazine and it is the first FOSS related magazine in my
country, Sri Lanka.
http://fossuser.lk (issn 2012-7650)
If anyone is interested in joining with us please let me know.
I need people to promote fedora through the magazine so if anyone can help
the work it is a great help.
*Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera*
The Editor in Chief - FOSS User Magazine
Fedora Ambassador - Sri Lanka
*Email*: bckurera(a)fossuser.lk | *Skype*: buddhikakurera | *Fax*:
Hi fellow Ambassadors,
I just wanted to let you know, that I've been given a community
developer ticket to the OpenMind 2010 conference
(http://www.openmind.fi/), which is held in Helsinki, Finland today and
tomorrow. I'll be representing Fedora there, but won't be giving any
talks or anything like that, as the conference is more geared towards
business and the public sector.