I've not followed this thread from the start at all but how do you propose to define whether or not someone has been active as an ambassador or not? I mean I've not attended an IRC meeting in some time but on the other hand in the past 6 months I've burned and distributed somewhere in the neighborhood of 45 Fedora DVDs, I've also moved over 5 consulting clients over from Debian/CentOS over to Fedora Core. 

Does this make me inactive or not even if I cannot attend the IRC meetings? The point I'm trying to make is that there are probably quite a few Ambassadors that could be marked as inactive based on that while behind the scenes they are making more of an active contribution to Fedora than some of our more vocal Ambassadors.

thoughts?

-t

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On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Francesco Ugolini wrote:

A LITTLE ADVICE (not referred to this post): i know I've written a lot
of posts, but please, first to reply to a mail, please read all messages
written by me (or the first 5 with this topic), because it's unpractical
to write the same things a lot of time.

Yes, in fact, the kick-off is the second part of my proposal, the first
one is to mark ambassadors, who don't work, inactive.

After this, i don't know if my English is so worst as it seems to be, i
not say that people who don't follow irc meetings would be marked inactive.

For the title question i think it's the best way to prize working
ambassadors (but we can discuss lately, first of all focus your
attention on inactive/active proposal).

Regards

Francesco Ugolini

Jim Nanney ha scritto:
Francesco Ugolini wrote:
After the period of inactivity he will became emeritus ambassador. That
would be a possible solution.

Francesco Ugolini

susmit shannigrahi ha scritto:
We can support ambassador giving them materials to promote fedora but we
can't absolutely became a gadget shop, people will join th project to
receive the gadgets and probably after this they will do nothing.

We have just a Recognition Award that prize ambassadors who work hard.
Fine..then why another title *honored ambassador* ?
Think of a student who works for fedora ,eventually become an honored
ambassador for great job, then join an IT company..When he can afford
no more time for fedora...
become completely inactive..what do you propose in this situation ?



Why not do like the Free Media Contributors section.  List Active
Ambassadors and Inactive Ambassadors.  In this way, no one is "kicked
out" for inactivity.

It is reasonable to assume that everyone who has joined the Ambassadors
program has done so because of wanting to contribute.  So it is also
reasonable to assume they have in whatever way the particular person
could whether or not it was actually reported back.

Moving the names to an Inactive list, but not removing the names is
motivation enough to want to stay active.  If not, it still does not
give the previous (yet now inactive) contributor a "kicked out" feeling.

New titles should be another large discussion.  What would merit
receiving the new title?  Who judges what is worthy of that title?  To
me this can lead to animosity as well.

I propose no new titles, and also not removing Ambassadors.  The
community is stronger by more communication, but new titles, and kicking
out inactive Ambassadors seems to be the wrong way to achieve this.

As for me, I should be on the inactive list, because I have not attended
the IRC meetings, posted on this list, or reported on what I have done
to promote Fedora.

I think the Steering Committee should weigh heavily the downfall that
could occur by removing Inactive (most likely previously active)
Ambassadors, and the animosity that can be created by segregating
Ambassadors in levels requiring differing titles.

--Jim

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