And please don't take this the wrong way.

As a fedora packager, member of QA, and ambassador I feel like someone that lives in the housing projects.

If Fedora is only supposed to be used for solar cars and robots then I should be running RHEL I guess.

Beth, I'll see you there if nothing comes of it. I'll be calling their sales team on Tuesday. Would you like to exchange contact information and come up with a proposal/deliverables/agenda for the powers that be?


On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1:32 PM, inode0 <inode0@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Beth Lynn Eicher
<bethlynn@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 9:17 AM, inode0 <inode0@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 9:15 AM, inode0 <inode0@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Dan Mashal <dan.mashal@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Does Fedora or Red Hat have any plans to have some kind of exhibit for CES
>>>> 2013?
>>> No.
>> I don't have any idea what Red Hat might have for plans but Fedora
>> doesn't have any plans to attend at this point.
> I was at CES 2012 and I am registered for 2013.
> Red Hat and Fedora were not.
> Canonical was present. The booth was staffed with people who were
> making no apologies for their proprietary products, in fact they were
> pushing them. They were showing off Ubuntu on ARM, Ubuntu One, Ubuntu
> corporate desktop support, and Ubuntu TV. It is worth mentioning, that
> they were all out of media and stickers since the community
> constituency was in attendance.
> Microsoft was present but it was heavily rumored that they would not
> exhibit in 2013 because they were not guaranteed their CEO a keynote
> spot. I was also at the Steve Balmer's final CES keynote in 2012 where
> Windows 8 was hyped. Trust me, I face palmed when Microsoft took
> credit for innovations that I have seen in Free Software.

The picture you paint is the picture I have in my mind although I have
never attended CES, one only interested in open source for the ways
they might be able to use it to their economic advantage. Perhaps it
isn't fair for me to hope for anything more but I feel like I do see
more when I attend SELF, OLF, TXLF. Given that a reasonable presence
at CES would cost more than we spend on SELF, OLF, and TXLF combined I
am having a hard time supporting funding that given our limited

> I'm going to +1 Fedora @ CES2013. Many embedded products that run the
> Linux kernel are there. Moreover, there is abundant evidence that
> today's slot machines use GNU/Linux. The success of Sugar on OLPC
> hardware proves that Fedora is a fine choice for deployments that must
> work in the long haul.

I would rather take that money and do something directly with people
doing cool hacking on solar cars or robots than slot machines and
routers. My two cents.