Hello everyone,

I understand Dominik's concerns but I think that only resetting FESCo elections would be even worse. It would mess everything if we have elections for certain parts of Fedora one day and other parts in another. It would be very confusing. And I don't see any benefit on it.
I regret the new things tried didn't work out.  Hopefully, elections will be fine in January.
Last but least, I would like to thank the Council for doing this. I think it's the best solution. And please, we're all humans, we're doom to make mistakes; now we'll learn and make it better next time.

Kind regards,
Silvia
FAS: Lailah


2017-12-08 0:39 GMT+01:00 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <dominik@greysector.net>:
On Thursday, 07 December 2017 at 18:54, Jan Kurik wrote:
> During the Autumn 2017 Election cycle we wanted to try a new approach
> in the way how Elections are organized [1]. Unfortunately, at the
> beginning of the Voting period we realized the new way does not work
> as expected [2] and even we tried to put some mitigation plan in place
> [3], we have not succeeded. To come up with some workable solution we
> have decided to cancel the currently running Autumn 2017 Elections and
> start it again in early January 2018. In upcoming days I will publish
> a schedule for the January 2018 Elections as well as more details on
> how we are going to organize it.

Who is "we" that "decided" to cancel the running elections? What were the
reasons for this "decision"? I object to this strongly. It doesn't look
like this "decision" was made through an open process as is the usual
Fedora way. I can't even find a Council ticket for this or a thread
in the council-discuss mailing list.

I'm afraid I'm losing confidence that the current Council is capable
of leading Fedora if they cannot even hold an election according to
the current documented rules without breaking them in more than one way.

I haven't checked if elections to the Council and Mindshare were
organized according to policy (maybe I should!), but with FESCo
elections, the following were broken:
1. Candidate nominations were accepted later than 3 days before
   the voting period started. This contradicts
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy#Candidates
2. Candidates whose interviews weren't ready for publication before the
   start of the voting period were not disqualified. This contradicts
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations

Due to not having enough (number of open seats + 25%) candidates on the
day before the voting period, the nomination period was extended by 3
days. Arguably, the extension should have happened 3 days earlier
and should have been made longer than 3 days because extending by 3 days
on the eve of the voting period start still doesn't give anyone a chance
to be nominated according to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy#Candidates .
I'd have extended by at least a week, also due to infrastructure
instability this week. The interview readiness deadline was,
suprisingly, extended by a week, allowing candidates who couldn't be
bothered to write their interviews to be voted in anyway. Nothing was
said about disqualifying candidates who'd fail to publish their interviews
despite getting votes in the first few days of the elections.

Last but not least, I wonder why all elections are being cancelled
instead of just FESCo. This was not explained, either.

With sad regards,
Dominik
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