On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Jukka Palander <jukka(a)devspain.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 16:20 +0800, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> > Going towards new is good, but we should go in there by listening our
> > users what they want. Being arrogant is not the way.
> I don't think Onyeibo was being arrogant.
I did not mean Onyeibo. I meant the Gnome developers!
Please, we are not speaking about animals there, use "GNOME".
There is loads of examples in the web explaining what features Gnome 3
is lacking and what are annoying new and what should be improved. Anyhow
_none_ of them was taken into account when moving from 3.0 into 3.2.
This is being arrogant by the developers and points very well out that
they do not (want to?) listen their users. Its all what "they" think.
GNOME 3 is a breakage in the DE world. GNOME 3 is really young, the
developers are working hard to implement new features.
They where not waiting to release a complete DE the first time. This
is a community effort and developers do what they think is the most
important/fun, for now!
> And I also don't think we should always listen to what our users want.
+1 to Mathieu!
HUH! Now I seriously must think if I want to be part of Fedora
ambassadors team! This is really scary if we do not listen what people
think and want to say! By ignorance there is only one way -> DOWN!
We could always listen to them, but think for them, as they don't
necessary know the cleverest answer.
GNOME differs to the KDE philosophy.
The 4 F's are not there for users, but primarily for contributors.
We don't have to implement Unity if many users ask us the Unity DE.
Since F15, I've seen *many* new Linux (or Fedora) users really
enjoying GNOME 3. Only few prefers other DE, and they know how easy it
is to change.