Hi all, i tried to follow this thread and i have to say beforehand i did not read all the emails, but read a lot of them and here follows my words about it.<br><br>I raised this same issue some time ago and my motivation then was not about who does what and when, or who does reports or not, or about recognition, it was about communication, it was about communicating with fedora people.
<br><br>Potential Fedora users might look into the ambassadors list of his country and then write them an email, then if the ambassador does not repply, maybe because he&#39;s &quot;inactive&quot; ambassador, that might represent a bad image of the general community of fedora ambassadors. At that time there were no perfect solution to this issue and it remains as it is.
<br><br>The other big thing i can see is that making a large global community, it also makes harder for ambassadors to communicate with each other in other regions/languages as the community grows. Language is one thing and so i did start some efforts to regionalize with some success. Not every ambassador should write or speak fluidly english, certainly it helps in order to communicate with the larger english-spoken fedora community, but it also means that the rest of the world is excluded by definition and the other small/medium sizes fedora communities shadowed, worst, eclipsed. Ive talked to famsco people some times, and they have urged me to make more noise so our community get visibility, and they are &quot;right&quot;, but i do prefer to work on fedora instead of investing my time crying for attention.
<br><br>Building regionals fedora ambassador communities who communicates with FAMSCO regularly could make easier for others to join the project in all the world, and such, make a large impact on promoting Fedora which is one of our goals, isnt it? That would be more a pyramid-like organization instead of flat. Flat sounds nice, but in this context flat also means exclusion.
<br><br>I believe we have in latin-america a growing ambassador community (spanish and portuguese) which actually communicates much better between each other than with FAMSCO, that is just natural to happen. Building this organization can improve the whole project and it&#39;s not meant to divide, but just to recognize there are differences and that there not such thing as global without regions. If we want to succeed globally, we must succeed locally.
<br><br>Following up whose active or not would be much easier for local smaller groups, and in general i do agree we have to do some housekeeping, not because of recognitions, or lack of reports, or not attending irc meetings, or not a frequent flyer on the list, but because there are people outside that needs a reliable community to talk to.
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/1/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Francesco Ugolini</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:francesco.ugolini@fedoraproject.org">francesco.ugolini@fedoraproject.org</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I know that it isn&#39;t an happy discussion but it&#39;s necessary to solve<br>this BIG problem: Many ambassadors are inactive both in real world and<br>virtually (M-L, weekly meetings etc...).<br><br>I think we have to find a solution and my proposal is this one:
<br><br>- After a year of inactivity an Ambassador will be marked Inactive (in<br>both personal and global ambassadors pages).<br><br>- If he will do anything for six month after he will be marked inactive<br>he/she will be deleted from AccountSystem and Ambassadors Mailing List.
<br><br>At the moment of the subscription an advice will alert new member of<br>this condition.<br><br>The Ambassador that server for two years (or&nbsp;&nbsp;virtually and really (both<br>are required) the Project will be nominated to be Honored Ambassadors.
<br>Naturally only the members chose by FAmSCo will receive this status.<br><br>- Every year FAmSCo will nominate no more than 7 Honored Ambassadors<br>from community and 3 from RedHat employers that will feed the requirement.
<br><br>- The difference with the normal Ambassador is that Honored Ambassadors<br>will be permanent ambassadors.<br><br>This is my proposal, now we have to discuss about this one.<br><br>Regards<br><br>Francesco Ugolini<br>
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