Forwarded conversation
Subject: objection against bckurera.
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From: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 9:54 AM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>, callkalpa@gmail.com

Hi Navin

As we discussed already regarding Fedora Srilankan community.we have found some unwanted things happening in srilanka individually from bckurera for one example we found First FAD_LK does not happened in srilanka so we have to clarify with this with him and before FAmsCo nominations because we believe if would be good if anyone from experience with *genuine* side.

Navin and Kalpa please look on this mail and let him ask same question which Kital asked because still there is no reply from bckurera about this thread.once finished this we have to forward this summary to FamsCo,Kital,Dramsey and Harish as well.

Regards
Suresh

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 18:08:39 +0200
From: Joerg Simon <jsimon@fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FAD SL has taken place in Sri Lanka
To: ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org
Cc: Buddhika Kurera <bckurera@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <4E591687.60904@fedoraproject.org>
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Am 27.08.2011 03:40, schrieb Buddhika Kurera:
> I have successfully completed the FIRST FAD in Sri Lanka yesterday at
> SLIIT, Colombo.
> The main objective of this event is to get the IT undergraduates'
> support towards the Fedora project and increase the number of
> contributors from Sri Lanka.
> The event took place in the morning 9:00 - 11:00 am. Myself handle the
> whole event and discussed following topics.

Thanks Buddhika for the short report - just because i am always curious
- can you provide some numbers, how many people joined you at this FAD?
And do you got Feedback from other participants? How where the other
Ambassadors involved listed on the organization page [1].

thanks again - Joerg

[1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011

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From: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 12:16 AM
To: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>
Cc: callkalpa@gmail.com

Hi Suresh,

I also disappointed about his silly behaviour.

I think no representation better than FAmsCo representation by such a person.

Kalpa, any comments?

Best regards,
Danishka

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From: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 7:53 AM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>

+1

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Best Regards,

Kalpa Pathum Welivitigoda
http://about.me/callkalpa

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From: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:05 AM
To: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>

Shall we send him a mail by requesting to withdraw his own nomination?

and also we should maintain some thing like following.

If some one from Fedora Sri Lanka community, want to be a nominee for the FAmsco election he should nomited by the Sri Lankan community

Danishka

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From: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:14 AM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Cc: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>

Navin,

+1 yes that must be we have to do because it is community project so members of community have to decided.

Therefore Navin,you are the person who has experience and senior position behalf of fedora project-Srilankan community so i am totally agree with this decision and you can forward this mail to him or compose another mail also would be good i will put +1 too.

Thnaks

Regards,
-Suresh

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From: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:22 AM
To: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>
Cc: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>

Suresh,

Lets wait till Kalpa comment on this.

Danishka

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From: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:26 AM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>

I also suggest to mail him pointing out the fraud on FAD and asking
him to withdraw his nomination

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From: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:14 PM
To: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>

shall i write to him with our conversation and copy to few people like
Harish, Rahul, jsimon, etc

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From: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 5:11 PM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Cc: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>

Navin and Kalpa,

totally fine and agree.

Navin,

include [gbraad@fedoraproject.org ,hpillay@redhat.com,kaio@fedoraproject.org ,jsimon@fedoraproject.org ,metherid@gmail.com ,igorsoares@gmail.com,neville@taygon.com,dramsey@fedoraproject.org,pierros@papadeas.gr,thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com ] and ect..who are related around APAC.

Thanks for your time Kalpa and Navin.

regards,
Suresh

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From: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 5:55 PM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>

Yep. Go ahead.

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From: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:16 AM
To: Buddhika Kurera <bckurera@fedoraproject.org>, Buddhika Kurera <bckurera@gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Max Spevack <mspevack@fedoraproject.org>, gbraad@fedoraproject.org, hpillay@redhat.com, kaio@fedoraproject.org, jsimon@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, neville@taygon.com, dramsey@fedoraproject.org, pierros@papadeas.gr, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com

Buddhika,

Please have a look on the bellow conversation between Suresh, Kalpa and myself.

We are requesting you to withdraw your own FAMSCO nomination [1].

As the Sri Lankan Fedora Community, we DO NOT recommend you to the FAMSCO.

We would like to have our own representation at FAMSCO but not a person like you.

This is due to your bad behaviour.

You are just trying to fool the rest of the Fedora community.

Btw, Here after we (Fedora-Sri Lanka) will decide the nominee from the Sri Lankan community.

Please withdraw your nomination and behave like a good contributor.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_2011_nominations

Best Regards,
Danishka

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From: Buddhika Kurera <bckurera@fedoraproject.org>
Date: Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:07 AM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Max Spevack <mspevack@fedoraproject.org>, gbraad@fedoraproject.org, hpillay@redhat.com, kaio@fedoraproject.org, jsimon@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, neville@taygon.com, dramsey@fedoraproject.org, pierros@papadeas.gr, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com

Hello All,

Due to miss-communication I know the event planning did not happen well. Last minute myself went there and had it. Not like a huge event. Me and Danisha had a long communication about this after that and agreed to maintain effective communication via direct mail, not using lists for planning.

However I have no objection to withdraw the nomination if the community decides so.

Therefore by accepting the Sri Lankan community request (Danishka and Suresh) made I here by withdraw my

nomination (nomination page updated).

Hope everything is ok then.

thanks

Regards,

Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera(bckurera)

Fedora Ambassador Sri Lanka

Event Liaison - Design Team

Email: bckurera@fedoraproject.org | IRC: bckurera

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From: Buddhika Kurera <bckurera@fedoraproject.org>
Date: Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:26 AM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Max Spevack <mspevack@fedoraproject.org>, gbraad@fedoraproject.org, hpillay@redhat.com, kaio@fedoraproject.org, jsimon@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, neville@taygon.com, dramsey@fedoraproject.org, pierros@papadeas.gr, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com

Hello Again,

Still I could nt able to publish an event report coz I didnt get pics.

For SLIIT event there was no camera so a guy took some photos using his mobile phone. I have contacted my contacts several time and still I could nt get those.

And for the Kandy event held last month, still I am waiting for the photos.
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-October/018336.html

I cant help coz I dont have a camera so I have to depend on the ppl there.

However for future events, next FAD and release parties for example I ll take this seriously.

thanks

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From: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:50 AM
To: Rahul Sundaram <metherid@gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson@azneita.org>
Cc: David Ramsey <dramsey@fedoraproject.org>, hpillay@redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio@fedoraproject.org>, Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <jsimon@fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad@fedoraproject.org>, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com, mspevack@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, "Neville A. Cross" <neville@taygon.com>, pierros@papadeas.gr

Dear Rahul,Azneita and Tuna,

We have come with some conclusions behalf of Srilankan Fedora Community by the way Danishka has missed out you three of us[very important people from APAC] so i will copy of bellow conversation to you too.

Tuan, We have to refresh our APAC community with new ideas like Hrish said "there are few counties eg:Thailand..ect without fedora ambassadors" so question from Harish how can we contribute and distribute Fedora media over there and also how can we build good communication and make good community within a country like this..we have to discuss these things in next meeting.i will strongly suggest to you take a lead and hangout meeting until Dramsey come back[he is in Japan military] and also bi-weekly meeting would be enough for APAC so we can arrange the meeting during 1st and 3rd week of month.

Hope we can analysis these things in next meeting.

Thanking you all for your valuable time.

fixed -> closed this thread.

Regards,
Suresh

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From: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM
To: Buddhika Kurera <bckurera@fedoraproject.org>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Max Spevack <mspevack@fedoraproject.org>, gbraad@fedoraproject.org, hpillay@redhat.com, kaio@fedoraproject.org, jsimon@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, neville@taygon.com, dramsey@fedoraproject.org, pierros@papadeas.gr, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com

It was not a FAD any more!
Just a third class election campaign like what we see in real by Politicians.

As myself and Suresh having contacts in the SLIIT (one of two places organized RMS's events in 2008).
You just pee their missed the great chance of organizing such a great work.

I was not expecting to talk about this again specially with you.

But please do not take the owner ship of an event if you could not manage the coordination.

You said you do not having any contacts with any of academics but a students, but I do.

As I pass-out from SLIIT and Suresh is still in the institute.
As I said before if you have some work with local community then you must use talk to local people instead of
just making noise on APAC.

Still you are not ready to take the repsponsibility of the silly work that you have done.

And this is not just Suresh's and my view but also the Kalpa.

We will organize our 1st FAD in 2012 in Sri Lanka.

Please remember that objective of organizing such an event is spreading the word, getting more contributors and making better user base but not just collecting funds from the Fedora Project or RedHat.

Any one can fool the global community but not the local community. This is a small country. :)

I wish you will work with the community in future as a real fedora contributor.

Best Regards,
Danishka

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From: Truong Anh. Tuan <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:43 PM
To: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>
Cc: David Ramsey <dramsey@fedoraproject.org>, hpillay@redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio@fedoraproject.org>, Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <jsimon@fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad@fedoraproject.org>, thinklinux ssh <thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com>, mspevack@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, "Neville A. Cross" <neville@taygon.com>, pierros@papadeas.gr, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@gmail.com>, Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson@azneita.org>

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Suresh Packiyarajah" <sureshp8@gmail.com>
> To: "Rahul Sundaram" <metherid@gmail.com>, "Anh Tuan" <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>, "Heherson Pagcaliwagan"
> <herson@azneita.org>
> Cc: "David Ramsey" <dramsey@fedoraproject.org>, hpillay@redhat.com, "Caius 'kaio' Chance" <kaio@fedoraproject.org>,
> "Danishka Navin" <danishka@gmail.com>, "Kalpa Welivitigoda" <callkalpa@gmail.com>, "Joerg Simon"
> <jsimon@fedoraproject.org>, "Gerard Braad" <gbraad@fedoraproject.org>, "thinklinux ssh" <thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com>,
> mspevack@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, "Neville A. Cross" <neville@taygon.com>, pierros@papadeas.gr
> Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 1:20:37 PM
> Subject: [summary] objection against bckurera.
>
> Dear Rahul,Azneita and Tuna,

Hi Suresh,

(btw, my name is Tuan - as you mentioned below :)
I got really confused in this situation. It seems you would like to
tell us that no FAD has been happened in Srilanka yet, right?

As I see this thread status has been set to "closed" :). If so, never
mind; take over to other more important/interesting work.
As listing on wiki [1], there is one ambassador in Thailand although I
have never met him on IRC or the mailing list. However, I do not trust
that list so far since even it does not list me :); you can see, there
is only one ambassador in Vietnam and he is from... Germany :D (of
course, I know this man; he currently lives in Vietnam now)
+1. Suresh, could you please add this topic to agenda of the next
meeting [2].
Sure, I will.
I am considering to drop the "FAD special meeting". I also think the
regular bi-weekly meeting is enough.

Lets try to cancel the next upcoming FAD special meeting [3]. If anyone
like to take it back, we will do.
+1.
You are welcome :).

See you all in the next meeting [2] on Saturday, Nov 12th.

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification#Thailand_.281.29
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-11-12#Agenda
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-11-05

Kind regards,
Tuan

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From: <neville@taygon.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 8:45 PM
To: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>
Cc: Rahul Sundaram <metherid@gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson@azneita.org>, David Ramsey <dramsey@fedoraproject.org>, hpillay@redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio@fedoraproject.org>, Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <jsimon@fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad@fedoraproject.org>, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com, mspevack@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, "Neville A. Cross" <neville@taygon.com>, pierros@papadeas.gr, jsmith@fedoraproject.org, toshio@fedoraproject.org, ke4qqq@fedoraproject.org, jstanley@fedoraproject.org, gomix@fedoraproject.org, rexdieter@fedoraproject.org, jreznik@fedoraproject.org

Hello,

I am including in the reply to Fedora Board members. As this has become a
long text, I will top post.

At FAmSCo meeting[0] we discussed about this situation. The agreement is
that there is no reason to stop one Fedora Ambassador to run for a FAmSCo
election. It is to the voters to choose who will represent them better. In
any case, if we have more candidates that will better represent the
community in general, we all be benefited from that. If some one think
that can do it better than any of the current candidates, there is still
time for nominations.

I will also stress the fact that Fedora Project is a very flat
organization with a very fluid leadership. There is no country
representatives and there is no region representatives. There is no
regional quota in FAmSCo. People that leads in one country, in one region,
or in one body of Fedora Project, usually comes from a mix of doing things
and people skills.

The usual wisdom in Fedora Project is that local knowledge is better. If
as a team reached a consensus of what will be best to project your region,
then all for the best.

Best regards

Neville A. Cross

[0]
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-11-05/fedora-meeting.2011-11-05-13.21.html
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>> *Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera(bckurera)*
>> *Email*: bckurera@fedoraproject.org | *IRC*: bckurera
>> *
>> *
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>
>
> --
> Regards,
> *Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera(bckurera)*
> *Email*: bckurera@fedoraproject.org | *IRC*: bckurera
> *
> *
>

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From: Jon Stanley <jstanley@fedoraproject.org>
Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:27 PM
To: neville@taygon.com
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson@azneita.org>, David Ramsey <dramsey@fedoraproject.org>, hpillay@redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio@fedoraproject.org>, Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <jsimon@fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad@fedoraproject.org>, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com, mspevack@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, pierros@papadeas.gr, jsmith@fedoraproject.org, toshio@fedoraproject.org, ke4qqq@fedoraproject.org, gomix@fedoraproject.org, rexdieter@fedoraproject.org, jreznik@fedoraproject.org

I think that this is good general advice (speaking for myself,
obviously). In the past, we've had people running for various spots in
the project that I thought would not serve the community well, and I
let my voice be heard with my votes, not trying to quash their
candidacy. Reading through this, I think that this is just another
such situation.

However, I'm not quite certain what the "fraud" below refers to. It
sounded to me like he held a poorly organized FAD (and largely
undocumented, for lack of a camera, which I can't incredibly fault him
for) in Sri Lanka (which is one of the reasons that FAD's exist, BTW -
it's a mechanism to take small, measured risk. If it fails in it's
objectives, we're not out a ton of money)

Is there anything specific you'd like the Board to do, or is this just
more of an FYI?

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From: Jon Stanley <jstanley@fedoraproject.org>
Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:31 PM
To: neville@taygon.com
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson@azneita.org>, David Ramsey <dramsey@fedoraproject.org>, hpillay@redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio@fedoraproject.org>, Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <jsimon@fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad@fedoraproject.org>, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com, mspevack@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, pierros@papadeas.gr, jsmith@fedoraproject.org, toshio@fedoraproject.org, ke4qqq@fedoraproject.org, gomix@fedoraproject.org, jreznik@fedoraproject.org, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>

Adding Rex's correct email to the thread.

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, <neville@taygon.com> wrote:

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From: Buddhika Kurera <bckurera@fedoraproject.org>
Date: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:37 PM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Max Spevack <mspevack@fedoraproject.org>, gbraad@fedoraproject.org, hpillay@redhat.com, kaio@fedoraproject.org, jsimon@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, neville@taygon.com, dramsey@fedoraproject.org, pierros@papadeas.gr, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com

I have posted a mail to the list about the situation. Myself understood according to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_-_FAD , the event held was not a FAD just a fedora event, because no fedora contributor presented other than me. but I planned for a FAD. I have clear all the reference in FAD wiki page as well.

With no contributor it cant be a FAD. So I updated the event page as well https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011 . I didnt cheat on global FAms or grab funds. Please check the trac I didnt request anything for this event. AND Please dont call me a BAD Contributor, I did a mistake. After that I am not organizing any FAD here. Just an event. Whatever it is FAD or FUDCon or normal event what I am doing is spreading Fedora so I have no worries. Name doesnt give any more advantages. because local community wont bother much whether it is a FAD or anything coz many donno what FAD means :) I was trying to host the FAD till the beginning of 2011, SLIIT was very busy so that scheduling an event wasnt easy. It dragged finally and with hurry I have this event in August coz I was in need of finishing it. Otherwise only planning no result. This happen to Kandy SLIIT as well. I have been contacting SLIIT, Kandy for more than 6 months and finally I was able to host an event at SLIIT, Kandy last October.(I ll write the report soon, still pending photos)

Then someone can asked why you waited that long, yes ofcourse first I tried to get photos to write an event report. I could nt make it as I could nt visit them, I m in Kandy from last August(100km away). I phoned so many times but finally my contact was not able to send me pics. Later the attention was dropped on this. When I nominate myself Danishka sent this email, after that when I search I realized that wasnt a FAD. We had APAC FAD meetings, we discussed FAD should not be a full day event, even half day event can be considered as a FAD. So from the beginning I planned for a half day (you can see it on the wiki). But I missed the part about contributors. If I was altered about the contributor requirement I never plan for a FAD as there is no more than 4 contributors registered with the fedora project.

I am not a BAD Contributor: Locally, regionally I support my best. I have contacted individually to all APAC FAms, ask them to join meetings, because Harish and Dramsey need a more active set of FAms. I supported them, chair meetings, try to support FAms, helped FUDCon with design team. Locally represent Fedora, try to expand it by forming a LK Fedora community, expand to other unis, have talks in events, ask them to join with f.po, promoted the project. Can you called me bad as I did above mistake? Yes you can call but I reject it. Anybody think that I did all this for election? yes you can but dont be hurry, see after election what I ll do.

Finally at first I withdrew my nomination, but it imply that I accepted the blame and credits as a BAD contributor. Nomination are made individually (FAmSCo meeting log today). So anyone cannot reject it, I ll face the election and then the community will decide. Any question can be asked at the town hall so I can answer. Then the community will decide. May be I ll be dropped, but it is better than withdrawing. I ll face this for my honor and I dont care even though I get rejected. I do promote FOSS because I love it a lot. I am a mechanical engineer so contributing FOSS gives no credit for me. I am doing this for my pleasure. Fedora is not the only thing, FOSS User Magazine (www.fossuser.lk) the first FOSS magazine in Sri Lanka is started by me in 2010 April. The FOSS User community around it, is build by me. I am not a bad contributor.

Thanks Danishka and Suresh for pointing out this. Danishka is promoting Fedora locally a lot so he is a good contributor. Majority of Sri Lankans loved ubuntu but Danishka changed it. So I respect him always. He is a great person and resource in Sri Lanka.

In summary there are following;

0) The event had in SLIIT was another Introduction event about Fedora.

1) No FAD happened in SL yet and local great FAms can organize it, I will help you all no matter.

2) I am sorry for confusing it is my fault. Rectified mailing to ML.

3) No money was requested for the event so I didnt grab funds from the project.

4) I am not a bad contributor or didnt run an election campaign like a politician.

5) I ll renominate myself again. It is better getting rejecting than withdrawing by accepting the blame.

[I have changed the mind after reading todays' FAmSCo logs, FAmSCo ppl are right, Fedora is a community with contributors so let them decide. Nominations are made by individually]

I agree with John - there have been a number of folks over the years
who I have thought were ill-suited for leadership positions within
Fedora, and my (and the wisdom of others in the Fedora community)
tends to take care of that in one way or another. In Fedora, and other
communities, leadership is a bad term for such positions, they are
really positions of responsibility and extra work, as there is no real
leading of volunteers. I personally disdain private (or public)
communications urging folks not to run.

And while I only speak for myself - I support FAmSCo's stance in this instance.

--David

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From: Neville A. Cross <neville@taygon.com>
Date: Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:21 AM
To: Jon Stanley <jstanley@fedoraproject.org>
Cc: Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson@azneita.org>, David Ramsey <dramsey@fedoraproject.org>, hpillay@redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio@fedoraproject.org>, Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <jsimon@fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad@fedoraproject.org>, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com, mspevack@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, pierros@papadeas.gr, jsmith@fedoraproject.org, toshio@fedoraproject.org, ke4qqq@fedoraproject.org, gomix@fedoraproject.org, jreznik@fedoraproject.org, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>

Yes, the intention was to made the board aware of the situation.

Fraud is a strong word. Now most people involved has level down to
mis-communication. I see all of this as part of a learning process.

Best regards

--
Neville A. Cross
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
Linux User #: 473217

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From: Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM
To: "Neville A. Cross" <neville@taygon.com>
Cc: Jon Stanley <jstanley@fedoraproject.org>, Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson@azneita.org>, David Ramsey <dramsey@fedoraproject.org>, hpillay@redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio@fedoraproject.org>, Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <jsimon@fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad@fedoraproject.org>, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com, mspevack@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, pierros@papadeas.gr, jsmith@fedoraproject.org, toshio@fedoraproject.org, ke4qqq@fedoraproject.org, gomix@fedoraproject.org, jreznik@fedoraproject.org, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>

well, at finally this levels down to a miss-communication. Sorry from
all for using strong words. As Neville has stated this is all port of
a learning process.

All cool

>
> --
> Neville A. Cross
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
> Linux User #: 473217
>
>

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From: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:25 PM
To: "Neville A. Cross" <neville@taygon.com>
Cc: Jon Stanley <jstanley@fedoraproject.org>, Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson@azneita.org>, David Ramsey <dramsey@fedoraproject.org>, hpillay@redhat.com, Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio@fedoraproject.org>, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <jsimon@fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad@fedoraproject.org>, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com, mspevack@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, pierros@papadeas.gr, jsmith@fedoraproject.org, toshio@fedoraproject.org, ke4qqq@fedoraproject.org, gomix@fedoraproject.org, jreznik@fedoraproject.org, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>, Fedora Ambassadors <fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com>

I copied this mail to Amabassador list

To all FAMSCO members,

I am really disappointed about your poor decision.

You can't control our local decisions as we have freedom in putting the person who represent from Sri Lanka.
No representation is better than sending such a person.

It was NOT a communication mistake!

Contribution is not about the how much you make noise on Fedora list or IRC.

I am really disappointed about your poor decision and I have been working for several year for Fedora (more than 5years).
We have done much work but never fool the community. and

If I was him I wont come back to the election.

Seems, I should think about my Fedora contribution again.

To other members:

We kindly asked to withdraw Sri Lankan Ambassadors own nomination as there was a bad thing happened in here (LK).
But now he or some one else put his name again.
We (Sri Lankan community talked with some of the Fedorians privately but I think its time to make this public.
(sorry about that)

You have full freedom to do what ever you prefer at the election but...
Please please....think before cast your vote.

Bye for now. (I am leaving from FUDcon)

Danishka

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From: Caius 'kaio' Chance <kaio@fedoraproject.org>
Date: Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:32 PM
To: Danishka Navin <danishka@gmail.com>
Cc: "Neville A. Cross" <neville@taygon.com>, Jon Stanley <jstanley@fedoraproject.org>, Suresh Packiyarajah <sureshp8@gmail.com>, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@gmail.com>, Anh Tuan <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>, Heherson Pagcaliwagan <herson@azneita.org>, David Ramsey <dramsey@fedoraproject.org>, hpillay@redhat.com, Kalpa Welivitigoda <callkalpa@gmail.com>, Joerg Simon <jsimon@fedoraproject.org>, Gerard Braad <gbraad@fedoraproject.org>, thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com, mspevack@fedoraproject.org, igorsoares@gmail.com, pierros@papadeas.gr, jsmith@fedoraproject.org, toshio@fedoraproject.org, ke4qqq@fedoraproject.org, gomix@fedoraproject.org, jreznik@fedoraproject.org, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>, Fedora Ambassadors <fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com>

Hi Danishka,

Neither FAmSCo members or candidates are representing a specific region or country - they are representing all ambassadors around the world.

Every ambassador is welcomed to nominate someone or itself for the election. As long as there is a nomination received and the nominee is eligible, it does not need a permission from the local community of the candidate. I personally disagree putting any pressure to a candidate who you disliked, to drop its nomination.

You have rights for contributing the community in your own way, just as others contributed in theirs. However, it is not very fair to force everyone doing like you. You can put forth the allegation to FAmSCo or Board when you believe an ambassador has purposely done something against the Code of Conduct or in general sense. IMHO, the main mechanism of FAm team is - though there are definitions of activities (FAD/FADCon/etc) or some SOP of organizations, we should not blame an unintentional failure but review it retrospectively. As bckurera has admitted the weaknesses during his previous organizations, why won't we just give him a chance and let the time prove his passion to Fedora?

Regards,

kaio

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