But we create different level of Ambassadors: people who cannot, for
example, join irc meetings, couldn't have irc meeting points etc...
People that live in a Country without any events, couldn't have event
points.
With my idea i want to find a solution that prize equally all the people
who work, and, at the end, doesn't do anything to people that aren't
working. We have to understand that, if there are some people that are
doing nothing, it's their responsibility, not our. Yes, we have to
encourage all people, I'm available to do this, now and forever, but we
have to understand that many people are just not interest or have just
other priorities.
So, if you think it's a punitive proposal you can trow it, but, if you
think it can prize working ambassador, help non active ambassador to ask
for help, and, yes, don't punish inactive members (they won't be fired,
or something similar), you can support this and, if you want, improve this.
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
Tony Guntharp ha scritto:
There are other ways that can reward more active ambassadors without
alienating those that are working towards the same goals but are doing
so behind the scene.
For example, on several social networking sites that I've assisted in
development we award user points for users that contribute user
generated content. A uploaded video file might be worth 5 points, a
wiki-entry might be worth 3, etc etc. At certain point totals a user
gets a title awarded to him befitting his accomplishments. If a user
registers for the site and doesn't contribute he doesn't get points
awarded but on the other hand we don't delete him or mark him as inactive.
Digg works much the same way, anyone can register for Digg and
contribute stories etc. But they don't take any action if you register
and don't contribute.
This whole proposal of marking an Ambassador Active/Inactive reeks to me
of punishment. That may not have been your intention but your own words
make a strong case for this. Using terms like punitive action
exemplifies this.
If you're really trying to give active Ambassadors credit then perhaps
and hand out these recognition award more than twice in the past 12
months. Perhaps make this a quarterly award.
I'm guessing that due to the votes that were cast today (I was unable to
attend and cast my vote unfortunately) that this is going to be a
contested issue that is already drawing up lines and if we're not
careful could damage the Ambassador Program in general.
I for one will gladly leave the program if this resolution passes in
it's current form.
Thoughts?
-t
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Tony Guntharp
Co-Founder SourceForge.net
On Apr 5, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
The proposal want to give active ambassador the recognition for this
work, and the simplest way to award a work is to recognize what was
done, in this sense, giving the status of active ambassador will grant
them such recognition.
The question i ask myself is: Why people who work are against this
proposal? It's really a punitive action? Sincerely, I don't know. The
idea behind my proposal want only to award working people, but it seems
not to be such.
I think I've to reflect over this problem during this night, hoping
someone will help me to solve this one.
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
Greg Dekoenigsberg ha scritto:
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
For the first draft (we have two more weeks to discuss) the results are:
+1 = 7 votes
-1 = 7 votes
This vote say an important thing: we have to work more on this proposal.
A few thoughts.
First: if it's not unanimous, we don't have the right idea.
Second: focus on rewarding "active" participants, not penalizing
"passive" participants.
Third: if you decide that an "award" is the right thing, we'd be willing
to fund it.
--g
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