Hi there :-)
again me, sorry by answering all the mails even late; but at work, I
have no possibility to do private things like answering mails :-)
Am Sonntag, den 20.01.2008, 20:26 +0100 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen:
red_alert wrote:
> Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>>> 2) wtf, 1,000? isn't that a little too high? or maybe even more than
>>> just a little... or is there a good reason for that amount?
>>>
>>
>> Like Gerold already suggested too, this is a maximum contribution fee
>> the NPO can request from it's members, and maximums are often high. I
>> would not expect to see this maximum reached, ever, but from a legal
>> point of view the NPO must have /a/ maximum. So you choose one that is
>> not insanely high, but will also not limit you for many, many years to
>> come. Money devaluates over time and given that the General Members
>> Meeting must unanimously agree on raising or lowering this maximum,
>> having to do so every 5, 10 or even 20 years would become a problem
>> for any organization.
>
>
> Ok, that's the reason in favor of such a high amount. Are there no
> contras then? I know that in some countries the maximum fee is important
> when it gets to liability but AFAIK this is not the case in Germany (at
> least not with an e.V.). Something else to consider?
> ...if not, I'd say 1,000 Euro is fair.
^^
Imagine, the first meeting can`t decide due a lack of attendees; on the
second meeting there are only five members; the President and four other
and they want to have the annual membership price increased to 10.000
Euro. And the vote is done by 3:2 so the vote is done and law and you
have to pay ....
Ok, it is a very abstract voting, but it could happen and if you have
such a amount in the statutes with a amount of members which have to
vote to CHANGE such things ...
it can`t happen like above described ...
>
Well, imagine what it would look like if we said 3 billion is the
maximum contribution fee. I'm not sure that would be accepted by the
German Financial Department (so there's a contra). As I'm not German
though maybe Gerold is in a better position to give you the proper
answer ;-)
> What initial fee are you going to propose at the formation, anyway?
>
We -anyone- can propose and reason for any amount of contribution fee,
the trick is to find one the others agree with. As the Statutes
describe, the contribution fee is a General Members Meeting's
responsibility (2/3 majority of votes cast required -should these
Statutes be accepted) -which is probably going to vote on what the board
(to be elected still) proposes. So far the initial pseudo-official
response to your question.
Now in more general terms; There is of course the "minimum" contribution
fee that makes a person become a "regular" member -this would be the
mandatory fee.
^^
Because of my Linux Usergroup is a computer "NPO" we decides to have a 2
expotential amount ....
in our case we pay 2 exp. 11 == 1024 == EUR 10,25 per month :-)
Just for example
regards
--
Gerold Kassube <gerold(a)lugd.org>