EMEA Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2017-02-15

[Nemanja Milosevic]

Hey Ambassadors,

We had our regular EMEA meeting, it lasted about 30 minutes and 4 people attended.

This was a very important meeting, because of the pagure.io migration, so I ask you all to
read the logs. 

Also, the number of people in this meeting was only 4 (not even at the same time) so it
was impossible for us to vote on the requests. Please state if the time slot is bad for
you, so we can try and change it. We've all noticed that the turnout in the last few
meetings is definitely going downhill. :(

Minutes:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-15/emea_ambassad...

Minutes (text):
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-15/emea_ambassad...

Log:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-15/emea_ambassad...

See you again in two weeks.

Nemanja

[Christian Dersch]

Hi all,

in general the time slot is fine for me (and I'm attending at most
meetings.) But as an astronomer I have to work in the evening or at night
sometimes, just like today. Of course that means the ideal time would be
something like afternoon for me, but I know that will conflict with day job
of many others, so I'm fine with the time at evening. And of course: Often
enough it's cloudy, so I can attend anyway.

Greetings
Christian


2017-02-15 21:38 GMT+01:00 Nemanja Milosevic <nmilosev(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:

>  Hey Ambassadors,
>
>  We had our regular EMEA meeting, it lasted about 30 minutes and 4 people
>  attended.
>
>  This was a very important meeting, because of the pagure.io migration, so
>  I ask you all to read the logs.
>
>  Also, the number of people in this meeting was only 4 (not even at the
>  same time) so it was impossible for us to vote on the requests. Please
>  state if the time slot is bad for you, so we can try and change it. We've
>  all noticed that the turnout in the last few meetings is definitely going
>  downhill. :(
>
>  Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-15/
>  emea_ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.html
>
>  Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.
>  org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-15/emea_ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.txt
>
>  Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-15/
>  emea_ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.log.html
>
>  See you again in two weeks.
>
>  Nemanja
>  _______________________________________________
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>

[Sylvia]

Hello!
I didn't know you're an astronomer, that's very interesting. I love
astronomy but I never met an astronomer. What software do you use?
Where are you? And how did you get to Fedora?Sorry if it looks like an
interview but I'm really curious, it's just so awesome! More to the
topic, I hope you can make it for the next meeting, it was very sad to
be just 2 or 3 there.  Also, it's impossible to discuss or vote,
there's simple not people enough.I think we should run a  "when is
good"  to see what people think is a better day and/or time to meet. 
Cheers,Sylvia

On Wed, 2017-02-15 at 23:15 +0100, Christian Dersch wrote:
>  Hi all,
>  in general the time slot is fine for me (and I'm attending at most
>  meetings.) But as an astronomer I have to work in the evening or at
>  night sometimes, just like today. Of course that means the ideal time
>  would be something like afternoon for me, but I know that will
>  conflict with day job of many others, so I'm fine with the time at
>  evening. And of course: Often enough it's cloudy, so I can attend
>  anyway.
>  
>  Greetings
>  Christian
>  
>  
>  
>  2017-02-15 21:38 GMT+01:00 Nemanja Milosevic <nmilosev@fedoraproject.
>  org>:
>  > Hey Ambassadors,
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > We had our regular EMEA meeting, it lasted about 30 minutes and 4
>  > people attended.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > This was a very important meeting, because of the pagure.io
>  > migration, so I ask you all to read the logs.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Also, the number of people in this meeting was only 4 (not even at
>  > the same time) so it was impossible for us to vote on the requests.
>  > Please state if the time slot is bad for you, so we can try and
>  > change it. We've all noticed that the turnout in the last few
>  > meetings is definitely going downhill. :(
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-1
>  > 5/emea_ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.html
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/20
>  > 17-02-15/emea_ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.txt
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-15/em
>  > ea_ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.log.html
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > See you again in two weeks.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Nemanja
>  > 
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > 
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>  > 
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>  > 
>  > 
>  
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[Christian Dersch]

Hi,

thank you for your interest :)

On 02/16/2017 01:51 PM, Sylvia wrote:
>  Hello!
>
>  I didn't know you're an astronomer, that's very interesting. I love
>  astronomy but I never met an astronomer. What software do you use? 
For observations
we use KStars and INDI, all data analysis at university
uses Python and some other free software. This is also one of my main
contributions @Fedora: I'm maintaining several scientific packages and
created the Astronomy Spin (https://labs.fedoraproject.org/astronomy/)
to help new users interested in astronomy and also to make Fedora more
interesting for astronomers.

>  Where are you? And how did you get to Fedora? 
I'm a phd
student at University of Marburg (Germany). I'm a long time
Linux user, starting with SuSE Linux in 2003 and was one of the Salix OS
developers until 2012. My first Fedora was Fedora 9, but daily usage
started with Fedora 14. My reasons to move to Fedora where:

* up to date, most without the caveats of rolling release. This is
important as I maintain all computers of our working group at university.
* great set of scientific software packages (only Debian is comparable,
all other distros have less powerful scientific toolchain)
* great infrastructure (things like copr and koji), I missed that when
working for small distributions like Salix
* of course the great community, I got in contact with them in IRC and
especially some events like FrOSCon

Greetings,
Christian

[jiannis bonatakis]

I apologize for my absent at the last meeting. it happens sometimes to be
so occupied with work, studies and etc that i  forget the meetings at the
evenings. However I want to suggest that two things.
* when it comes to have less than x attenders we should cancel the
meeting(especially if it is an important one) and try maybe the next day or
as soon as possible
* the time should be convenience for the most of us, but we could have a
vote to see what other days and hours can be used. I wonder, for example is
Saturday would work better or not.


gpg fingerprint: E97A 1E68 E163 06B5 E21C  E158 FAC0 0962 FD8B CE51


On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Christian Dersch <chrisdersch(a)gmail.com&gt;
wrote:

>  Hi,
>
>  thank you for your interest :)
>
>  On 02/16/2017 01:51 PM, Sylvia wrote:
>  >
>  > Hello!
>  >
>  > I didn't know you're an astronomer, that's very interesting. I love
>  > astronomy but I never met an astronomer. What software do you use?
>  For observations we use KStars and INDI, all data analysis at university
>  uses Python and some other free software. This is also one of my main
>  contributions @Fedora: I'm maintaining several scientific packages and
>  created the Astronomy Spin (https://labs.fedoraproject.org/astronomy/)
>  to help new users interested in astronomy and also to make Fedora more
>  interesting for astronomers.
>
>  > Where are you? And how did you get to Fedora?
>  I'm a phd student at University of Marburg (Germany). I'm a long time
>  Linux user, starting with SuSE Linux in 2003 and was one of the Salix OS
>  developers until 2012. My first Fedora was Fedora 9, but daily usage
>  started with Fedora 14. My reasons to move to Fedora where:
>
>  * up to date, most without the caveats of rolling release. This is
>  important as I maintain all computers of our working group at university.
>  * great set of scientific software packages (only Debian is comparable,
>  all other distros have less powerful scientific toolchain)
>  * great infrastructure (things like copr and koji), I missed that when
>  working for small distributions like Salix
>  * of course the great community, I got in contact with them in IRC and
>  especially some events like FrOSCon
>
>  Greetings,
>  Christian
>  _______________________________________________
>  ambassadors mailing list -- ambassadors(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  To unsubscribe send an email to ambassadors-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>

[Sylvia]

Hi!
Well, LATAM meetings are in Saturdays so maybe that's a good.  Nemanya,
can you open  "when is good" and send it to the list so we all can
vote?  Or make a list of proposed days and times and vote it here in
the list?So we can solve this and move on.
Cheers,Sylvia

On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 18:26 +0000, jiannis bonatakis wrote:
>  I apologize for my absent at the last meeting. it happens sometimes
>  to be so occupied with work, studies and etc that i  forget the
>  meetings at the evenings. However I want to suggest that two
>  things. * when it comes to have less than x attenders we should
>  cancel the meeting(especially if it is an important one) and try
>  maybe the next day or as soon as possible
>  * the time should be convenience for the most of us, but we could
>  have a vote to see what other days and hours can be used. I wonder,
>  for example is Saturday would work better or not.
>  
>  
>  gpg fingerprint: E97A 1E68 E163 06B5 E21C  E158 FAC0 0962 FD8B CE51
>  
>  
>  
>  On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Christian Dersch <chrisdersch@gmail.
>  com> wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > thank you for your interest :)
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > On 02/16/2017 01:51 PM, Sylvia wrote:
>  > 
>  > >
>  > 
>  > > Hello!
>  > 
>  > >
>  > 
>  > > I didn't know you're an astronomer, that's very interesting. I
>  > love
>  > 
>  > > astronomy but I never met an astronomer. What software do you
>  > use?
>  > 
>  > For observations we use KStars and INDI, all data analysis at
>  > university
>  > 
>  > uses Python and some other free software. This is also one of my
>  > main
>  > 
>  > contributions @Fedora: I'm maintaining several scientific packages
>  > and
>  > 
>  > created the Astronomy Spin (https://labs.fedoraproject.org/astronom
>  > y/)
>  > 
>  > to help new users interested in astronomy and also to make Fedora
>  > more
>  > 
>  > interesting for astronomers.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > > Where are you? And how did you get to Fedora?
>  > 
>  > I'm a phd student at University of Marburg (Germany). I'm a long
>  > time
>  > 
>  > Linux user, starting with SuSE Linux in 2003 and was one of the
>  > Salix OS
>  > 
>  > developers until 2012. My first Fedora was Fedora 9, but daily
>  > usage
>  > 
>  > started with Fedora 14. My reasons to move to Fedora where:
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > * up to date, most without the caveats of rolling release. This is
>  > 
>  > important as I maintain all computers of our working group at
>  > university.
>  > 
>  > * great set of scientific software packages (only Debian is
>  > comparable,
>  > 
>  > all other distros have less powerful scientific toolchain)
>  > 
>  > * great infrastructure (things like copr and koji), I missed that
>  > when
>  > 
>  > working for small distributions like Salix
>  > 
>  > * of course the great community, I got in contact with them in IRC
>  > and
>  > 
>  > especially some events like FrOSCon
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Greetings,
>  > 
>  > Christian
>  > 
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > 
>  > ambassadors mailing list -- ambassadors(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  > 
>  > To unsubscribe send an email to ambassadors-leave(a)lists.fedoraproje
>  > ct.org
>  > 
>  > 
>  
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[Sylvia]

Ah...!  You definitely should be interviewed by Fedora Magazine if they
didn't yet.So good to read this.  I also noticed that Debian and Fedora
are the distributions with better support for sciences.  Actually, I
installed Fedora Cinnamon in a friend's laptop for that very
reason.  She's a sciences student.Currently I have no USB sticks to
destroy, I mean, to use as live install media; but I really want to try
your Astronomy lab.  Is it possible to burn a DVD with it?  I have an
optical unit so I could buy a couple of DVDs and convert them in
install media.I didn't know about froscon.  Now I know... I'll be
there!  Thank you.
And thank you for the patience to write answering all my
questions.  It's very interesting and now I'm even more curious.

Cheers,Sylvia


On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 17:44 +0100, Christian Dersch wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  thank you for your interest :)
>  
>  On 02/16/2017 01:51 PM, Sylvia wrote:
>  > Hello!
>  > 
>  > I didn't know you're an astronomer, that's very interesting. I love
>  > astronomy but I never met an astronomer. What software do you use?
>  
>  For observations we use KStars and INDI, all data analysis at
>  university
>  uses Python and some other free software. This is also one of my main
>  contributions @Fedora: I'm maintaining several scientific packages
>  and
>  created the Astronomy Spin (https://labs.fedoraproject.org/astronomy/
>  )
>  to help new users interested in astronomy and also to make Fedora
>  more
>  interesting for astronomers.
>  
>  > Where are you? And how did you get to Fedora?
>  
>  I'm a phd student at University of Marburg (Germany). I'm a long time
>  Linux user, starting with SuSE Linux in 2003 and was one of the Salix
>  OS
>  developers until 2012. My first Fedora was Fedora 9, but daily usage
>  started with Fedora 14. My reasons to move to Fedora where:
>  
>  * up to date, most without the caveats of rolling release. This is
>  important as I maintain all computers of our working group at
>  university.
>  * great set of scientific software packages (only Debian is
>  comparable,
>  all other distros have less powerful scientific toolchain)
>  * great infrastructure (things like copr and koji), I missed that
>  when
>  working for small distributions like Salix
>  * of course the great community, I got in contact with them in IRC
>  and
>  especially some events like FrOSCon
>  
>  Greetings,
>  Christian
>  _______________________________________________
>  ambassadors mailing list -- ambassadors(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  To unsubscribe send an email to ambassadors-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject
>  .org

[Christian Dersch]

Hi again,

On 02/16/2017 10:32 PM, Sylvia wrote:
>  Ah...! You definitely should be interviewed by Fedora Magazine if they 
>  didn't yet. 
Sounds interesting :) How does that work?
>  So good to read this. I also noticed that Debian and Fedora are the 
>  distributions with better support for sciences. Actually, I installed 
>  Fedora Cinnamon in a friend's laptop for that very reason. She's a 
>  sciences student.
>  Currently I have no USB sticks to destroy, I mean, to use as live 
>  install media; but I really want to try your Astronomy lab. Is it 
>  possible to burn a DVD with it? I have an optical unit so I could buy 
>  a couple of DVDs and convert them in install media. 
Yes, you can burn the ISO image
to DVD. Only issue with DVD media in 
general is of course the lower speed.
>  And thank you for the patience to write answering all my questions. 
>  It's very interesting and now I'm even more curious. 
It's always a
pleasure to write with other community members :)

Greetings,
Christian

[Jiri Eischmann]

Nemanja Milosevic píše v St 15. 02. 2017 v 20:38 +0000:
>  Hey Ambassadors,
>  
>  We had our regular EMEA meeting, it lasted about 30 minutes and 4
>  people attended.
>  
>  This was a very important meeting, because of the pagure.io
>  migration, so I ask you all to read the logs. 
>  
>  Also, the number of people in this meeting was only 4 (not even at
>  the same time) so it was impossible for us to vote on the requests.
>  Please state if the time slot is bad for you, so we can try and
>  change it. We've all noticed that the turnout in the last few
>  meetings is definitely going downhill. :(
>  
>  Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-15/
>  emea_ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.html
>  
>  Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017
>  -02-15/emea_ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.txt
>  
>  Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-15/emea
>  _ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.log.html
>  
>  See you again in two weeks.
>  
>  Nemanja 
Hi,
I can't promise I'd attend every meeting, but what would really help
me is moving the meeting to the original time - 22:00 CET. 21:00 is
just too early for me because I have evening activities that keep me
busy until almost 22:00. That's the reason why I haven't attended any
meeting recently.

Jiri

[Gerold]

you won't fit all times and users, me e.g. is getting up daily at 5 a.m. 
and i don't attend any meeting starting at 10 p.m. ...

... because I need my beauty sleep


just my five cents

gerold


Am 16.02.2017 um 14:21 schrieb Jiri Eischmann:
>  Nemanja Milosevic píše v St 15. 02. 2017 v 20:38 +0000:
> > Hey Ambassadors,
> >
> > We had our regular EMEA meeting, it lasted about 30 minutes and 4
> > people attended.
> >
> > This was a very important meeting, because of the pagure.io
> > migration, so I ask you all to read the logs.
> >
> > Also, the number of people in this meeting was only 4 (not even at
> > the same time) so it was impossible for us to vote on the requests.
> > Please state if the time slot is bad for you, so we can try and
> > change it. We've all noticed that the turnout in the last few
> > meetings is definitely going downhill. :(
> >
> > Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-15/
> > emea_ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.html
> >
> > Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017
> > -02-15/emea_ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.txt
> >
> > Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-15/emea
> > _ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.log.html
> >
> > See you again in two weeks.
> >
> > Nemanja
>  Hi,
>  I can't promise I'd attend every meeting, but what would really help
>  me is moving the meeting to the original time - 22:00 CET. 21:00 is
>  just too early for me because I have evening activities that keep me
>  busy until almost 22:00. That's the reason why I haven't attended any
>  meeting recently.
>
>  Jiri
>
>
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[Jiri Eischmann]

Gerold píše v Čt 16. 02. 2017 v 14:22 +0100:
>  you won't fit all times and users, me e.g. is getting up daily at
> 5
>  a.m. and i don't attend any meeting starting at 10 p.m. ...
>  ... because I need my beauty sleep 
I'm not trying to suggest a time that works the best for everyone, I'm
just saying why I'm not attending.

Jiri

>  Am 16.02.2017 um 14:21 schrieb Jiri Eischmann:
>  > Nemanja Milosevic píše v St 15. 02. 2017 v 20:38 +0000:
>  > > Hey Ambassadors,
>  > > 
>  > > We had our regular EMEA meeting, it lasted about 30 minutes and 4
>  > > people attended.
>  > > 
>  > > This was a very important meeting, because of the pagure.io
>  > > migration, so I ask you all to read the logs. 
>  > > 
>  > > Also, the number of people in this meeting was only 4 (not even
>  > > at
>  > > the same time) so it was impossible for us to vote on the
>  > > requests.
>  > > Please state if the time slot is bad for you, so we can try and
>  > > change it. We've all noticed that the turnout in the last few
>  > > meetings is definitely going downhill. :(
>  > > 
>  > > Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02
>  > > -15/
>  > > emea_ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.html
>  > > 
>  > > Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/
>  > > 2017
>  > > -02-15/emea_ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.txt
>  > > 
>  > > Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-02-15/
>  > > emea
>  > > _ambassadors.2017-02-15-20.00.log.html
>  > > 
>  > > See you again in two weeks.
>  > > 
>  > > Nemanja
>  > 
>  > Hi,
>  > I can't promise I'd attend every meeting, but what would really
>  > help
>  > me is moving the meeting to the original time - 22:00 CET. 21:00 is
>  > just too early for me because I have evening activities that keep
>  > me
>  > busy until almost 22:00. That's the reason why I haven't attended
>  > any
>  > meeting recently.
>  > 
>  > Jiri
>  > 
>  > 
>  > _______________________________________________
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