Re: [Embajadores-fedora-latam] Re: Remove FAS Country groups

[Abdel Gadiel Martínez Lassonde]

I think that editing a wiki (and not being on any Fedora group or team) is not a valid
reason for maintaining country groups. This issue should be addressed to FAmSCo to have a
consensus and a replicable solution across all regions

I will refer to this note on the Ambassador wiki page [1]:
"Requires CLA+1 status to complete 
To edit the wiki, you now have to have CLA+1 status (which means you belong to another
group in FAS than the CLA-related groups). If you are unable to edit the wiki, skip this
step and work with your mentor on a temporary workaround. When you are able, you need to
have a biography on your user page."

This means that no user should be able to edit a wiki page, unless is extremely necessary
and the mentor is aware of that.

So, from my point of view, having the country specific group is useless and represent an
backdoor on other stuff as voting system.

Regards,
Abdel

References:
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_Join_create_user_page
Sent from my iPhone

>  On Feb 11, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto
> <itamar(a)ispbrasil.com.br&gt; wrote:
>  
> > On 2017-02-11 02:58 PM, Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis wrote:
> > Hola a todo, actualmente estoy manejando el grupo de Peru porque
> > hacataka esta retirado. Pedimos que nuestra cuenta no sea eliminada
> > porque nos ayuda a dar acceso a nuevos usuarios a poder crear su
> > pagina de wiki. Esta actividad la estoy realizando con Bernardo
> > Hermitaño. Saludos
>  
>  pienso que lo grupo de brasil no deberia ser removido,
>  pois podemos permitir las personas que editen la wiki.
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[Embajadores-fedora-latam] Re: Remove FAS Country groups

[Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis]

Abdel, si hubiera otra forma de salvar ese detalle de la wiki para nuevos
prospectos no habría ningún inconveniente en acceder a la propuesta.

El sáb., 11 de feb. de 2017 15:58, Abdel Gadiel Martínez Lassonde <
abdel.g.martinez.l(a)gmail.com&gt; escribió:

>  I think that editing a wiki (and not being on any Fedora group or
> team) is
>  not a valid reason for maintaining country groups. This issue should be
>  addressed to FAmSCo to have a consensus and a replicable solution across
>  all regions
>
>  I will refer to this note on the Ambassador wiki page [1]:
>  *"Requires CLA+1 status to complete *
>  To edit the wiki, you now have to have CLA+1 status (which means you
>  belong to another group in FAS than the CLA-related groups). If you are
>  unable to edit the wiki, skip this step and work with your mentor on a
>  temporary workaround. When you are able, you need to have a biography on
>  your user page."
>
>  This means that no user should be able to edit a wiki page, unless is
>  extremely necessary and the mentor is aware of that.
>
>  So, from my point of view, having the country specific group is useless
>  and represent an backdoor on other stuff as voting system.
>
>  Regards,
>  Abdel
>
>  References:
>  [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_Join_create_user_page
>  Sent from my iPhone
>
>  On Feb 11, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto <itamar(a)ispbrasil.com.br&gt;
>  wrote:
>
>  On 2017-02-11 02:58 PM, Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis wrote:
>
>  Hola a todo, actualmente estoy manejando el grupo de Peru porque
>
>  hacataka esta retirado. Pedimos que nuestra cuenta no sea eliminada
>
>  porque nos ayuda a dar acceso a nuevos usuarios a poder crear su
>
>  pagina de wiki. Esta actividad la estoy realizando con Bernardo
>
>  Hermitaño. Saludos
>
>
>  pienso que lo grupo de brasil no deberia ser removido,
>  pois podemos permitir las personas que editen la wiki.
>
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[Embajadores-fedora-latam] Re: Remove FAS Country groups

[Robert Mayr]

2017-02-11 23:05 GMT+01:00 Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis <alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  Abdel, si hubiera otra forma de salvar ese detalle de la wiki para
> nuevos
>  prospectos no habría ningún inconveniente en acceder a la propuesta.
>  
Alex,
please can you avoid top posting and write in english? This gets out to a
lot of people all over the world, most of them aren't spanish.
Thanks.

-- 
Robert Mayr
(robyduck)

[Embajadores-fedora-latam] Re: Remove FAS Country groups

[Abdel G. Martínez L.]

Then this issue should be addressed to both FAmSCo and Infra (or maybe
Docs).

My idea would be that no user (meaning as non-contributor) should not be
able to edit the wiki page. If needed, he/she should contact an contributor
(preferably an Ambassador) to edit the wiki with the information he/she
needed. In this sense, the contributor (preferably an Ambassador) will have
the accountability of publishing content on the wiki.

Regards,
Abdel



2017-02-11 17:05 GMT-05:00 Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis <alleinerwolf(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  Abdel, si hubiera otra forma de salvar ese detalle de la wiki para
> nuevos
>  prospectos no habría ningún inconveniente en acceder a la propuesta.
>
>  El sáb., 11 de feb. de 2017 15:58, Abdel Gadiel Martínez Lassonde <
>  abdel.g.martinez.l(a)gmail.com&gt; escribió:
>
> > I think that editing a wiki (and not being on any Fedora group or team)
> > is not a valid reason for maintaining country groups. This issue should be
> > addressed to FAmSCo to have a consensus and a replicable solution across
> > all regions
> >
> > I will refer to this note on the Ambassador wiki page [1]:
> > *"Requires CLA+1 status to complete *
> > To edit the wiki, you now have to have CLA+1 status (which means you
> > belong to another group in FAS than the CLA-related groups). If you are
> > unable to edit the wiki, skip this step and work with your mentor on a
> > temporary workaround. When you are able, you need to have a biography on
> > your user page."
> >
> > This means that no user should be able to edit a wiki page, unless is
> > extremely necessary and the mentor is aware of that.
> >
> > So, from my point of view, having the country specific group is useless
> > and represent an backdoor on other stuff as voting system.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Abdel
> >
> > References:
> > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_Join_create_user_page
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 11, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto <itamar(a)ispbrasil.com.br&gt;
> > wrote:
> >
> > On 2017-02-11 02:58 PM, Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis wrote:
> >
> > Hola a todo, actualmente estoy manejando el grupo de Peru porque
> >
> > hacataka esta retirado. Pedimos que nuestra cuenta no sea eliminada
> >
> > porque nos ayuda a dar acceso a nuevos usuarios a poder crear su
> >
> > pagina de wiki. Esta actividad la estoy realizando con Bernardo
> >
> > Hermitaño. Saludos
> >
> >
> > pienso que lo grupo de brasil no deberia ser removido,
> > pois podemos permitir las personas que editen la wiki.
> >
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-- 
Abdel G. Martínez L.