[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Fedora-based Distro

[Kirill "REDbyte" Novikov]

Hi all! Some days ago I had a talk with representive of United  Nations
Development Programme (Damir Amirov) here in Uzbekistan, they are really
interested in Linux and OSS, and they planning to lauch a linux project by
the end of the year. So together we had a look on existing distros and
guessed that none matches for local users, and Damir offered to create team
and make own distro. Sure, I offered fedora and rpm system as basis or maybe
mandriva. It should be a 1CD distro with friendly GUI, and fully localized.
So can we use Fedora Core 4 as basis for making National Operatning System?
Or it would be illegal and we shouldn't do it?

Regards,

Kirill "REDbyte" Novikov

[Tejas Dinkar]

On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 22:02 +0500, REDbyte Labs wrote:
>  Hi all! Some days ago I had a talk with representive of United
>  Nations Development Programme (Damir Amirov) here in Uzbekistan, they
>  are really interested in Linux and OSS, 
Wow!!! That is So c00L!!!!

>   and they planning to lauch a linux project by the end of the year.
> So
>  together we had a look on existing distros and guessed that none
>  matches for local users, and Damir offered to create team and make own
>  distro. 
Good Luck. It is very important to create localised versions. However,
remember this: if you make some changes to a program to include your
language, tell the original makers of the program, so that they can also
use your changes

>  So can we use Fedora Core 4 as basis for making National Operatning
>  System? Or it would be illegal and we shouldn't do it? 
Please Remember that Fedora, and everything that is included in it is
free software.

Free as in Freedom,

You have the freedom to modify it as you wish.

However, modifying the packages may be tricky. Most of the packages in
the Fedora Core are GPLed. This means that you can change the package as
you wish. However, you must release the source code of the new package
to the public as well.

I think this applies to Fedora Core itself (although I'm not sure)... If
you change Fedora Core, you must explain how.

Gja

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[Chitlesh GOORAH]

On 1/14/06, REDbyte Labs <redbyte.labs(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi all! Some days ago I had a talk with representive of United 
> Nations
>  Development Programme (Damir Amirov) here in Uzbekistan, they are really
>  interested in Linux and OSS, and they planning to lauch a linux project by
>  the end of the year. So together we had a look on existing distros and
>  guessed that none matches for local users, and Damir offered to create team
>  and make own distro. Sure, I offered fedora and rpm system as basis or maybe
>  mandriva. It should be a 1CD distro with friendly GUI, and fully localized.
>  So can we use Fedora Core 4 as basis for making National Operatning System?
>  Or it would be illegal and we shouldn't do it?
>  
I would propose that instead of working on another distro, why not
help kadischi (the fedora live cd tool) ?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi
The Kadischi project isnt mature enough. finally with Kadischi you can
create any localised live cd you may want.


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[Robert Whetsel]

Quoting REDbyte Labs <redbyte.labs(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  Hi all! Some days ago I had a talk with representive of United 
> Nations
>  Development Programme (Damir Amirov) here in Uzbekistan, they are really
>  interested in Linux and OSS, and they planning to lauch a linux project by
>  the end of the year. So together we had a look on existing distros and
>  guessed that none matches for local users, and Damir offered to create team
>  and make own distro. 
1. What are the user requirements?
2. If current distros do not meet their needs; then a requirement evaluation
(Discovery) is needed, because each distro has the ability to be what the user
wants or needs. 

 Sure, I offered fedora and rpm system as basis or maybe
>  mandriva. It should be a 1CD distro with friendly GUI, and fully
> localized.
>  So can we use Fedora Core 4 as basis for making National Operatning System?
>  Or it would be illegal and we shouldn't do it? 
3. If reinvent is the results of the Discovery then follow
http://www.linuxbase.org/

Contact me directly, this is where my company assists others in the migration
process. rwhetsel(a)ravensong.com   
>  
>  Regards,
>  
>  Kirill "REDbyte" Novikov
>   

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[Kirill "REDbyte" Novikov]

Thanks for advice. Project now is on the stage of brainstorm. We generate
ideas. I would take a look at kadischi, maybe it is just what we need. Guys
from UN ready to finance development so I think we could find professional
translators... Nearly all unixoids here speak russian, so it's quite a big
problem to translate OS on language wich we don't know. Another problem is
that there are lots of "weak" PCs. So we would need some window manager,
wich doesn't require many resources.

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

>  Thanks for advice. Project now is on the stage of brainstorm. We
> generate
>  ideas. I would take a look at kadischi, maybe it is just what we need. 
Do keep in touch with me if you plan in playing with Kadischi. Ill be
happy to introduce you to Hartline, he needs backing to do coding with
Kadischi.

>  Guys from UN ready to finance development so I think we could find
> professional
>  translators... 
for the moment we already have the French and Swedish translations for
Kadischi Documentation.

>  Nearly all unixoids here speak russian, so it's quite a big
>  problem to translate OS on language wich we don't know. Another problem is
>  that there are lots of "weak" PCs. So we would need some window manager,
>  wich doesn't require many resources. 
At least if we get the english translations, its enough. Afterwards
the Fedora Community will translate it :)


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[Kirill "REDbyte" Novikov]

If you would need Russian translator for LiveCD - I'm ready to help.

Regards,

Kirill "REDbyte" Novikov

2006/1/14, Chitlesh GOORAH <chitlesh(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  > Thanks for advice. Project now is on the stage of brainstorm. We
>  generate
>  > ideas. I would take a look at kadischi, maybe it is just what we need.
>
>  Do keep in touch with me if you plan in playing with Kadischi. Ill be
>  happy to introduce you to Hartline, he needs backing to do coding with
>  Kadischi.
>
>  > Guys from UN ready to finance development so I think we could find
>  professional
>  > translators...
>
>  for the moment we already have the French and Swedish translations for
>  Kadischi Documentation.
>
>  > Nearly all unixoids here speak russian, so it's quite a big
>  > problem to translate OS on language wich we don't know. Another problem
>  is
>  > that there are lots of "weak" PCs. So we would need some window manager,
>  > wich doesn't require many resources.
>
>  At least if we get the english translations, its enough. Afterwards
>  the Fedora Community will translate it :)
>
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[Chitlesh GOORAH]

On 1/14/06, REDbyte Labs <redbyte.labs(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  If you would need Russian translator for LiveCD - I'm ready to
> help. 
I won't say no :)
Since the contents of wikipages changes constantly, Ill advice you for
the moment to translate
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Documentation . For example the
French translation :
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fr_FR/Outils/Kadischi/RapportBogues

if you want to talk more about kadischi, please let's move to the
livecd maillist list :)

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[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi

> .
>
> However, modifying the packages may be tricky. Most of the packages in
> the Fedora Core are GPLed. This means that you can change the package as
> you wish. However, you must release the source code of the new package
> to the public as well.
>   
>  
Slightly incorrect. You only have to distribute the code or make an 
offer to distribute code if you distribute binaries to a third party.

> I think this applies to Fedora Core itself (although I'm not
> sure)... 
>  
Within the current trademark guidelines, if you modify Fedora you just 
cannot call it Fedora and if you modify specific programs then the 
copyright license of those programs apply.

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[Alex]

Kirill,

this is a great initiative, so please keep the group posted on progress.

thanks,
a

On 1/14/06, REDbyte Labs <redbyte.labs(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  If you would need Russian translator for LiveCD - I'm ready to
> help.
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Kirill "REDbyte" Novikov
>
>  2006/1/14, Chitlesh GOORAH < chitlesh(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  > > Thanks for advice. Project now is on the stage of brainstorm. We
>  generate
>  > > ideas. I would take a look at kadischi, maybe it is just what we need.
>  >
>  > Do keep in touch with me if you plan in playing with Kadischi. Ill be
>  > happy to introduce you to Hartline, he needs backing to do coding with
>  > Kadischi.
>  >
>  > > Guys from UN ready to finance development so I think we could find
>  professional
>  > > translators...
>  >
>  > for the moment we already have the French and Swedish translations for
>  > Kadischi Documentation.
>  >
>  > > Nearly all unixoids here speak russian, so it's quite a big
>  > > problem to translate OS on language wich we don't know. Another problem
>  is
>  > > that there are lots of "weak" PCs. So we would need some window
> manager,
>  > > wich doesn't require many resources.
>  >
>  > At least if we get the english translations, its enough. Afterwards
>  > the Fedora Community will translate it :)
>  >
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