I think Francesco wants to see a vibrant community where things are moving,
people are having discussions in open mind and at the end they are achieving
for which they can be proud of.
So, he wanted to shake people up not off. This Fedora ambassador project is
new kind where things are not matured yet, like how things can be done, how
people will contribute. This community is still learning, whereas in
Marketing, Infrastructure they quite know what and how things to do.
But he touched a sensitive issue which made some people scare, even me. I
have not yet figured out how can I do things here in BD where things are
I also liked and agree totally where Greg said.
"My $0.02: once somebody says 'I am a Fedora ambassador,' then they are a
Fedora ambassador, FOR LIFE. Until (a) they say 'no thanks, I'm not an
ambassador anymore,' or (b) they do something that disgraces Fedora, and
FAMSCO drums them out."
Yet it does not answer Francesco's dilemma / question, how to make the
community more vibrant and figure out the active ones. I think here he has
to accept that he will have continue to work with the most active ones. But
I can't more emphasize more that sometimes we will have to give buzz to
those apparently inactive ones and I believe they will try to do something
when communication is made to them and at the end add more value to the
And at the last, when Thomas said, he wanted to see this discussion stop. He
means not to see this group getting fragmented by any discussion which hurts
people. But alas any such discussion will hurt some people but it is the
positive mind who will wake and say its not negative, I have learn something
here and use it in future.
Also, when we have a leader (here Thomas) we must follow what he has asked
for and not to do anything destructive.
On 4/10/07, Francesco Ugolini <francesco.ugolini(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>From Wikipedia: "The word community comes from the Latin communis,
meaning "common, public, shared by all or many." The Latin term
"communitatus" from which the English word "community" comes, is
comprised of three elements, "Com-" - a Latin prefix meaning with
or together, "-Munis-" - ultimately Proto-Indo-European in origin,
it has been suggested that it means "the changes or exchanges that
link" (Both municipal and monetary take their meaning here), and
"-tatus" a Latin suffix suggesting diminutive, small, intimate or local."
Together is the "leit motif" of my proposal, i want to underline this
thing know to destroy all the legend behind this proposal. My proposal
want to demonstrate that we stay together, we share our ideas and
opinion. And, sorry if i misunderstood, but Fedora Ambassadors list is
the list where we can discuss about ideas, problems etc... But, it's not
important now. I know many people are feared by this proposal but i
don't know why, because i never say to fire someone, kill another etc...
I talk about a proposal to re-create the community. If we work together
we work better. That's my motto. ........
Now, Thomas has decided to close this discussion and i have to follow
Hoping this discussion had something good, hoping people will continue
to work as they are doing