Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV

[Shambo Bose]

>  I cant remember correctly ( may be I am wrong) but I think I saw a
>  advertisement of Linux on television few years back. If I am right, can we
>  publish a Fedora Advertisement on television? Is it possible?
>  
regards,

Shambo Bose

[Jan Ekbom]

I would certainly contribute with money for that purpose, if Red Hat spends
their part.

2008/9/9 Shambo Bose <shambo.linux(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  I cant remember correctly ( may be I am wrong) but I think I saw a
> > advertisement of Linux on television few years back. If I am right, can we
> > publish a Fedora Advertisement on television? Is it possible?
> >
>
>  regards,
>
>  Shambo Bose
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[Juan M. Rodriguez]

2008/9/21 Jan Ekbom <jan.ekbom(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  I would certainly contribute with money for that purpose, if Red Hat
> spends
>  their part.
>
>  2008/9/9 Shambo Bose <shambo.linux(a)gmail.com&gt;
>
> > I cant remember correctly ( may be I am wrong) but I think I saw a
> >> advertisement of Linux on television few years back. If I am right, can we
> >> publish a Fedora Advertisement on television? Is it possible?
> >>
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Shambo Bose
> >
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About a year ago (might've been months, Internet "news" are
classified as
"ancient" if older than 6 hours) there was a huge discussion on /. regarding
a penguin in a F1 Formula Car. It costed several millions, was tiny, and the
driver crashed the car.

While I do not remember the details of the car, driver or cost, I do
remember that the general consensus was this: If you want to donate, donate
to the programmers that make things possible. While I'd LOVE to see a TV Ad,
I think having vids on youtube is "enough". What makes Fedora wanted are its
features, not a fancy ad that sells Churros on a shoe store.

Thats my 2 cents.

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[Larry Cafiero]

2008/9/21 Juan M. Rodriguez <nushio(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  About a year ago (might've been months, Internet "news"
> are classified as
>  "ancient" if older than 6 hours) there was a huge discussion on /. regarding
>  a penguin in a F1 Formula Car. It costed several millions, was tiny, and the
>  driver crashed the car. 
That was last year (2007) at Indianapolis -- there was an effort to
sponsor one of the cars that raised about $20,000, and that got Tux on
the nose and sides of the car (since the team was unsponsored going
into the race). The driver, Roberto Moreno, crashed after 30 laps or
so and finished last.

There is a definite advantage to promoting Fedora (or Linux or
whatever) through mass media channels. I disagree when Juan says that
"youtube is enough."

Larry Cafiero

[Foxhaund]

TV ads are too expensive for promoting of Fedora. The best way to promote F
is speaking with people about all the F's features and pluses.

2008/9/22 Larry Cafiero <larry.cafiero(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  2008/9/21 Juan M. Rodriguez <nushio(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>
>  > About a year ago (might've been months, Internet "news" are classified
> as
>  > "ancient" if older than 6 hours) there was a huge discussion on /.
>  regarding
>  > a penguin in a F1 Formula Car. It costed several millions, was tiny, and
>  the
>  > driver crashed the car.
>
>  That was last year (2007) at Indianapolis -- there was an effort to
>  sponsor one of the cars that raised about $20,000, and that got Tux on
>  the nose and sides of the car (since the team was unsponsored going
>  into the race). The driver, Roberto Moreno, crashed after 30 laps or
>  so and finished last.
>
>  There is a definite advantage to promoting Fedora (or Linux or
>  whatever) through mass media channels. I disagree when Juan says that
>  "youtube is enough."
>
>  Larry Cafiero
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[Fahadh Nazir]

It's true that TV commercials are expensive. But it is much more effective
that promoting by speaking with people. Even in my country it has a high
media approachability for most of the advertisements which are telecasted on
the TV.

Fahadh Nazir

2008/9/22 Foxhaund <foxhaund(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  TV ads are too expensive for promoting of Fedora. The best way to
> promote F
>  is speaking with people about all the F's features and pluses.
>
>  2008/9/22 Larry Cafiero <larry.cafiero(a)gmail.com&gt;
>
>  2008/9/21 Juan M. Rodriguez <nushio(a)gmail.com&gt;:
> >
> > > About a year ago (might've been months, Internet "news" are
> classified
> > as
> > > "ancient" if older than 6 hours) there was a huge discussion on /.
> > regarding
> > > a penguin in a F1 Formula Car. It costed several millions, was tiny, and
> > the
> > > driver crashed the car.
> >
> > That was last year (2007) at Indianapolis -- there was an effort to
> > sponsor one of the cars that raised about $20,000, and that got Tux on
> > the nose and sides of the car (since the team was unsponsored going
> > into the race). The driver, Roberto Moreno, crashed after 30 laps or
> > so and finished last.
> >
> > There is a definite advantage to promoting Fedora (or Linux or
> > whatever) through mass media channels. I disagree when Juan says that
> > "youtube is enough."
> >
> > Larry Cafiero
> >
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>
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[Shambo Bose]

hi

We can contact Red Hat regarding this topic and can ask them to give their
opinion.


regards,

Shambo Bose

[sankarshan]

Shambo Bose wrote:

>  We can contact Red Hat regarding this topic and can ask them to give
>  their opinion. 
I am reasonably sure that a number of folks from Red Hat are on this
list or, reading this list - so what specific point do you think an
opinion is required ?

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[Shambo Bose]

about the advertisement , if it is possible or not, if possible then what
can be done .

Thanks.


Regards ,
Shambo Bose

[Paul W. Frields]

On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 16:54 +0530, Shambo Bose wrote:
>  about the advertisement , if it is possible or not, if possible then
>  what can be done . 
I appreciate that the Ambassadors on this thread are enthusiastic about
Fedora and want to see that lots of people hear about it.  However,
pending money on TV advertising is not an effective way of putting
Fedora in front of the people who care about it.  To mass-market any
product takes (literally) tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars
in advertising.  That is the kind of advertising that you have to do
just to make people *aware* of a product.  And if they can't figure out
from a 30-second commercial what it is, you've essentially wasted that
money.

There is no effective way to explain Fedora in 30 seconds, and therefore
this would not be a good use of anyone's money, including Red Hat.  I'm
also certain that if TV advertising were seen as a viable option, Red
Hat would have already blitzed the media with an ad campaign for Red Hat
Enterprise Linux quite a while ago!

I think the best way to "advertise" Fedora is targeted -- find the
venues in which Fedora is likely to generate interest and action, and
concentrate on personally getting involved in those venues.

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[Jan Ekbom]

What about spending 200 000 $ to make a really good flash animation that
could be seen on YouTube?


2008/9/22 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 16:54 +0530, Shambo Bose wrote:
>  > about the advertisement , if it is possible or not, if possible then
>  > what can be done .
>
>  I appreciate that the Ambassadors on this thread are enthusiastic about
>  Fedora and want to see that lots of people hear about it.  However,
>  pending money on TV advertising is not an effective way of putting
>  Fedora in front of the people who care about it.  To mass-market any
>  product takes (literally) tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars
>  in advertising.  That is the kind of advertising that you have to do
>  just to make people *aware* of a product.  And if they can't figure out
>  from a 30-second commercial what it is, you've essentially wasted that
>  money.
>
>  There is no effective way to explain Fedora in 30 seconds, and therefore
>  this would not be a good use of anyone's money, including Red Hat.  I'm
>  also certain that if TV advertising were seen as a viable option, Red
>  Hat would have already blitzed the media with an ad campaign for Red Hat
>  Enterprise Linux quite a while ago!
>
>  I think the best way to "advertise" Fedora is targeted -- find the
>  venues in which Fedora is likely to generate interest and action, and
>  concentrate on personally getting involved in those venues.
>
>  --
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[Shambo Bose]

hi,

I posted earlier that I saw some Linux commercials on the TV some years ago
and here are the You Tube links :

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=PLHjT5-XM9o


IBM Linux ADs :


http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=KwEWxpOWOok
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=EwL0G9wK8j4

Thanks


Regards,

Shambo Bose

[hagr182]

How about a Facebook advert?? its really no that expensive, and many ppl use
it, that in addition to the "Fedora Rocks" group, is great advertisement

2008/9/21 Jan Ekbom <jan.ekbom(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  I would certainly contribute with money for that purpose, if Red Hat
> spends
>  their part.
>
>  2008/9/9 Shambo Bose <shambo.linux(a)gmail.com&gt;
>
> > I cant remember correctly ( may be I am wrong) but I think I saw a
> >> advertisement of Linux on television few years back. If I am right, can we
> >> publish a Fedora Advertisement on television? Is it possible?
> >>
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Shambo Bose
> >
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[Hamada Zahera]

I suggest to create a group in facebook for Fedora to inform all people and get in touch
with them about Fedora.

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez <hagr182(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

From: Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez <hagr182(a)gmail.com&gt;
Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV
To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 12:17 AM



How about a Facebook advert?? its really no that expensive, and many ppl use it, that in
addition to the "Fedora Rocks" group, is great advertisement


2008/9/21 Jan Ekbom <jan.ekbom(a)gmail.com&gt;


I would certainly contribute with money for that purpose, if Red Hat spends their part.


2008/9/9 Shambo Bose <shambo.linux(a)gmail.com&gt;





I cant remember correctly ( may be I am wrong) but I think I saw a advertisement of Linux
on television few years back. If I am right, can we publish a Fedora Advertisement on
television? Is it possible?

regards,

Shambo Bose
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[Paul W. Frields]

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 15:59 -0700, Hamada Zahera wrote:
>  I suggest to create a group in facebook for Fedora to inform all
>  people and get in touch with them about Fedora. 
Already exists:
http://tinyurl.com/4738pq 
http://tinyurl.com/4yp9dl 

I typed "Fedora" into the Facebook search to find these.  Everyone else
should, too, before we start making duplicate groups and splitting the
community for no good reason.

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[hagr182]

Thats what I said, the main group seems to be "Fedora Rocks", already
joined, but I was talking about the adverts theyre offering on the side
display of the webpage

2008/9/23 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 15:59 -0700, Hamada Zahera wrote:
>  > I suggest to create a group in facebook for Fedora to inform all
>  > people and get in touch with them about Fedora.
>
>  Already exists:
>  http://tinyurl.com/4738pq
>  http://tinyurl.com/4yp9dl
>
>  I typed "Fedora" into the Facebook search to find these.  Everyone else
>  should, too, before we start making duplicate groups and splitting the
>  community for no good reason.
>
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[Jan Ekbom]

We could collect all cool linux commercials from YouTube and similar
websites in to one place:
This one is really great:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x35AIGJaM5M&feature=related

One other thing is that severla people participate in a longer film
sequence, and that someone could be the director and the final editor of
that material.

2008/9/24 Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez <hagr182(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  Thats what I said, the main group seems to be "Fedora
> Rocks", already
>  joined, but I was talking about the adverts theyre offering on the side
>  display of the webpage
>
>  2008/9/23 Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com&gt;
>
> > On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 15:59 -0700, Hamada Zahera wrote:
> > > I suggest to create a group in facebook for Fedora to inform all
> > > people and get in touch with them about Fedora.
> >
> > Already exists:
> > http://tinyurl.com/4738pq
> > http://tinyurl.com/4yp9dl
> >
> > I typed "Fedora" into the Facebook search to find these.  Everyone else
> > should, too, before we start making duplicate groups and splitting the
> > community for no good reason.
> >
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