Ambassador Schedule for F14

[Joerg Simon]

Hi John,

thanks for your patience, here is the final Ambassadorial Schedule for
F14 that we approved in our todays FAmSCo Meeting.

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule


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[Mathieu Bridon]

Hi,

On 06/28/2010 11:06 PM, Joerg Simon wrote:
>  Hi John,
>
>  thanks for your patience, here is the final Ambassadorial Schedule for
>  F14 that we approved in our todays FAmSCo Meeting.
>
>    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule 
Some of those items seem a bit odd to me.


- Generic meetings involving FAmSCo, regional leads, and ambassadors on 
upcoming release

What would those « generic » meetings be about. Or is the intended 
purpose to actually let them be as « generic » as possible?

Like Paul said in an earlier reply to the original thread:
   The more specific the tasks are, as Robyn notes above, the more likely
   they can be easily handled by an interested contributor.  The more
   vague they are, the harder it is to figure them out or assign them to
   anyone to get done.

This seems like an overly vague task, covering overly vague meetings, 
and I fear this will lead to long and unproductive meetings. :-/


- Release event submission closes, FAmSCo review meeting, budget 
review/allocation

What happens if someone is too late to declare his event, will he be 
told he can't hold one? Or will he simply not be granted funding?


- Point of Contacts work with infrastructure for getting ISO immediately 
after final image is composed and available to mirrors for sync

Wait, the RC images are already publicly available, and the decision to 
make a RC iso the release is publicly announced.

There is just no need for some « points of contact » to « work with 
infrastructure », this is already public knowledge.


Thanks in advance for any clarification.


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Mathieu

[susmit shannigrahi]

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Mathieu Bridon
<bochecha(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  Hi,
>
>  On 06/28/2010 11:06 PM, Joerg Simon wrote:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > thanks for your patience, here is the final Ambassadorial Schedule for
> > F14 that we approved in our todays FAmSCo Meeting.
> >
> >   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule
>
>  Some of those items seem a bit odd to me.
>
>
>  - Generic meetings involving FAmSCo, regional leads, and ambassadors on
>  upcoming release
>
>  What would those « generic » meetings be about. Or is the intended
>  purpose to actually let them be as « generic » as possible? 
No, about what should we do about the new release...what are the
talking points etc....what are the plans of each region for upcoming
release etc...

>  Like Paul said in an earlier reply to the original thread:
>    The more specific the tasks are, as Robyn notes above, the more likely
>    they can be easily handled by an interested contributor.  The more
>    vague they are, the harder it is to figure them out or assign them to
>    anyone to get done.
>
>  This seems like an overly vague task, covering overly vague meetings,
>  and I fear this will lead to long and unproductive meetings. :-/ 
Yes, but we would never know until we do it for the first time. We
will revise it then.

>  - Release event submission closes, FAmSCo review meeting, budget
>  review/allocation
>
>  What happens if someone is too late to declare his event, will he be
>  told he can't hold one? Or will he simply not be granted funding? 
Yes, he is unlikely to get funding. May be we won't be too hard about
it. But lets try to stick to the schedule.

>  - Point of Contacts work with infrastructure for getting ISO
> immediately
>  after final image is composed and available to mirrors for sync
>
>  Wait, the RC images are already publicly available, and the decision to
>  make a RC iso the release is publicly announced.
>
>  There is just no need for some « points of contact » to « work with
>  infrastructure », this is already public knowledge. 
RC is not the final image...is it? RC + testing = Final image...right?
So, we can not create DVD media from RC, can we? Or do I understand
this incorrectly?

This step was meant to expedite the process of producing mass media.


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[Mathieu Bridon]

On 06/29/2010 03:50 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote:
>  On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Mathieu Bridon
> > - Release event submission closes, FAmSCo review meeting, budget
> > review/allocation
> >
> > What happens if someone is too late to declare his event, will he be
> > told he can't hold one? Or will he simply not be granted funding?
>
>  Yes, he is unlikely to get funding. May be we won't be too hard about
>  it. But lets try to stick to the schedule. 
Ok, thanks for clarifying.

> > - Point of Contacts work with infrastructure for getting ISO
> immediately
> > after final image is composed and available to mirrors for sync
> >
> > Wait, the RC images are already publicly available, and the decision to
> > make a RC iso the release is publicly announced.
> >
> > There is just no need for some « points of contact » to « work with
> > infrastructure », this is already public knowledge.
>
>  RC is not the final image...is it? RC + testing = Final image...right?
>  So, we can not create DVD media from RC, can we? Or do I understand
>  this incorrectly? 
FC13 RC3 was renamed F13 GA, after sufficient testing. The image didn't 
change.

This is exactly the point of the RC process: we produce an RC image, 
test it, if it doesn't meet the criteria then we produce a second 
one,... Once an RC image passes the release criteria, then this very 
same image becomes the release.

At this point, you already have the final image, even though release day 
didn't happen yet.


-- 
Mathieu

[susmit shannigrahi]

>  FC13 RC3 was renamed F13 GA, after sufficient testing. The image
> didn't
>  change.
>
>  This is exactly the point of the RC process: we produce an RC image,
>  test it, if it doesn't meet the criteria then we produce a second
>  one,... Once an RC image passes the release criteria, then this very
>  same image becomes the release. 
Precisely, but if you are not in sync with infra, you will never know
what exactly is going on...my whole point. :)

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[John Poelstra]

Joerg Simon said the following on 06/28/2010 02:06 PM Pacific Time:
>  Hi John,
>
>  thanks for your patience, here is the final Ambassadorial Schedule for
>  F14 that we approved in our todays FAmSCo Meeting.
>
>    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule
>
>
>  cu Joerg 
Got it.  Targeting the end of this week to have it entered into 
TaskJuggler and automatically generating your schedule and the weekly 
reminders.

John

[John Poelstra]

Joerg Simon said the following on 06/28/2010 02:06 PM Pacific Time:
>  Hi John,
>
>  thanks for your patience, here is the final Ambassadorial Schedule for
>  F14 that we approved in our todays FAmSCo Meeting.
>
>    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule
>
>
>  cu Joerg 
All done.  I reworded some of the task names to be shorter and more 
concise.  Please let me know if there are any corrections, etc.

http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-14/f-14-ambassadors-tasks.html

John

[susmit shannigrahi]

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 6:14 AM, John Poelstra <poelstra(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  Joerg Simon said the following on 06/28/2010 02:06 PM Pacific Time:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > thanks for your patience, here is the final Ambassadorial Schedule for
> > F14 that we approved in our todays FAmSCo Meeting.
> >
> >   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule
> >
> >
> > cu Joerg
>
>  All done.  I reworded some of the task names to be shorter and more
>  concise.  Please let me know if there are any corrections, etc. 
Looks fine to me..
Others?


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Regards,
Susmit.

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[Indigo196]

Looks like a good schedule to me as well.

---- susmit shannigrahi <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: 
>  On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 6:14 AM, John Poelstra
> <poelstra(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  Joerg Simon said the following on 06/28/2010 02:06 PM Pacific Time:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > thanks for your patience, here is the final Ambassadorial Schedule for
> > F14 that we approved in our todays FAmSCo Meeting.
> >
> >   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule
> >
> >
> > cu Joerg
>
>  All done.  I reworded some of the task names to be shorter and more
>  concise.  Please let me know if there are any corrections, etc. 
Looks fine to me..
Others?


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Regards,
Susmit.

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