M-L proposal

[Francesco Ugolini]

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I've a modest proposal that consist in the merge of Fedora Ambassador
and Fedora Marketing mailing lists. The reson of this is that i've see
that many time the discussions are the same and it's seems to me as a
redundant thing.

I think that if we want to work better we have to work togheter, put our
power into something and be sure that is no lost time.

Yes, if we consider it we have to consider to open ambassadors list to
non ambassador people (as marketing is). I think it will be a new step
to improve the project giving all interested people to join the project
and simplify the infrastructure.

Thanks

Francesco Ugolini

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[Chitlesh GOORAH]

On 1/8/07, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>  Yes, if we consider it we have to consider to open ambassadors list
> to
>  non ambassador people (as marketing is). I think it will be a new step
>  to improve the project giving all interested people to join the project
>  and simplify the infrastructure. 
Personally, I'm NOT FOR opening fedora-ambassadors mailing list. We
have already discussed thing during the FAD :)

Chitlesh
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[Francesco Ugolini]

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Chitlesh GOORAH ha scritto:
>  On 1/8/07, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
> > Yes, if we consider it we have to consider to open ambassadors list to
> > non ambassador people (as marketing is). I think it will be a new step
> > to improve the project giving all interested people to join the project
> > and simplify the infrastructure.
>  
>  Personally, I'm NOT FOR opening fedora-ambassadors mailing list. We
>  have already discussed thing during the FAD :)
>  
>  Chitlesh 
The problem is that Marketing and Ambassador lists discuss about the
same topics. What i have proposed is a possible solution.

Thanks

Francesco Ugolini

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[Thomas Canniot]

Le lundi 08 janvier 2007 à 20:23 +0100, Francesco Ugolini a écrit :
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>  I've a modest proposal that consist in the merge of Fedora Ambassador
>  and Fedora Marketing mailing lists. The reson of this is that i've see
>  that many time the discussions are the same and it's seems to me as a
>  redundant thing.
>  
>  I think that if we want to work better we have to work togheter, put our
>  power into something and be sure that is no lost time.
>  
>  Yes, if we consider it we have to consider to open ambassadors list to
>  non ambassador people (as marketing is). I think it will be a new step
>  to improve the project giving all interested people to join the project
>  and simplify the infrastructure.
>  
>  Thanks
>  
>  Francesco Ugolini
>   
I agree !

TC

[Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay]

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Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>  I've a modest proposal that consist in the merge of Fedora
> Ambassador
>  and Fedora Marketing mailing lists. The reson of this is that i've see
>  that many time the discussions are the same and it's seems to me as a
>  redundant thing. 
Marketing and Ambassadors had slightly different (and unique) goals as i
understood them, but nowadays I observe a lot of convergence so I guess
in effect this idea will stream line communications

+1


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[Maxime Carron]

>  Le lundi 08 janvier 2007 à 20:23 +0100, Francesco Ugolini a écrit :
>  > I've a modest proposal that consist in the merge of Fedora Ambassador
>  > and Fedora Marketing mailing lists. 
+1
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[Florian Brand]

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Hi

- -1  closed lists are a good thing.

make this a +1 if we make it moderated for people without a fedora account.

Cheers
Florian
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[nihed mbarek]

Hi
like my friends, i think that closed lists is better.
-1
thanks.

2007/1/9, Florian Brand <fbrand(a)redhat.com&gt;:
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>  - -1  closed lists are a good thing.
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>  make this a +1 if we make it moderated for people without a fedora
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>  Cheers
>  Florian
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[Tejas Dinkar]

On Tue, 09 Jan 2007, nihed mbarek sent out 2.7K bytes to say:
>  Hi
>  like my friends, i think that closed lists is better.
>  -1
>  thanks. 
It honestly hardly makes a difference to me.

Topics are often so similar, I just have procmail redirect them to the
same folder.

I just see them as one list.

When I'm posting, I useually just post to ambassadors, because if I've
said something really stupid, It's easier to pretend I never said
anything if I post it on the closed list =)).

And ambassadors isn't `really` closed anyway. Entry to join is
practically nothing. As is archives (open) if I remember.

Anyway, this current status of ambassadors closed and marketing open
seems to be working. I donm't know who first said this pearl of wisdom:

IF It AIN'T Broke, don't try to fix it
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[Patrick W. Barnes]

On Monday 08 January 2007 13:23, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>  I've a modest proposal that consist in the merge of Fedora
> Ambassador
>  and Fedora Marketing mailing lists. The reson of this is that i've see
>  that many time the discussions are the same and it's seems to me as a
>  redundant thing.
>
>  I think that if we want to work better we have to work togheter, put our
>  power into something and be sure that is no lost time.
>
>  Yes, if we consider it we have to consider to open ambassadors list to
>  non ambassador people (as marketing is). I think it will be a new step
>  to improve the project giving all interested people to join the project
>  and simplify the infrastructure.
>  
I suggest I slightly different solution...

Push regular discussion to the marketing list.  Anything that can be said in 
the open should be, but we do occasionally have topics that are better suited 
for a more regulated audience.  That's why this list was created as a closed 
list in the first place.

This is really more a change in policy than in configuration or 
infrastructure.  All Ambassadors need to be pointed to the marketing list for 
general discussion, and we'll have to develop appropriate posting habits.  We 
already expect Ambassadors to be on the Marketing list for that very reason.

If we need to take technical measures to encourage correct usage, we can do 
that, but let's just try expressing what we want to see and try to make it 
work.  I think each list has value as it is, we just have to make better use 
of them.

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[Chitlesh GOORAH]

On 1/10/07, Patrick W. Barnes wrote:
>  This is really more a change in policy than in configuration or
>  infrastructure.  All Ambassadors need to be pointed to the marketing list for
>  general discussion, and we'll have to develop appropriate posting habits.  We
>  already expect Ambassadors to be on the Marketing list for that very reason. 
+1

Chitlesh
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[Bart De Soete]

+ 1

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