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[Joerg Simon]

Dear Ambassadors, 

right now some so called FOSS events appear with a target audience which is 
more focused for government agencies and bussines. To have Speakers at that 
events could be a great chance for Fedora to attract them for sponsoring or 
contribution. Here are some points i have made already in a discussion with a 
small group of people before. Francesco suggested to invite all Ambassadors to 
participate in this discussion.

There are several topics that we could place to attract government agencies 
and business, i am sure they will not know about that right now - and i hope 
that we find more here on that list - or like Francesco suggested collect in a 
WikiPage. 

- Company & Inhouse Builds! - a company who build software as FOSS or modify 
FOSS for their own Enterprise Servers can use the benefit of Fedora Processes 
and Infrastructure as well as the wide spreading of our Distribution with 
contributing to Fedora + EPEL - this is good for the company and for Fedora. 
This could be enhanced by a technical Track, to show them how they can package 
and spread their Software within own Fedora Spins ...

- Community Consulting! - show them the brilliance of our technology with 
spacewalk, cobbler, func, puppet, FDS, KVM, FEL, our OLPC Success...  Talk 
about the possibility that a Fedora Contributor teaches a company for a 
donation to the Fedora Project technicaly to see what the future will bring 
and to use that knowledge for their enterprise enviroments because this 
Enterprise Servers are build from our roots (or whatever) ...  

- Build a FOSS Career! - show the government why they should support using and 
teaching of FOSS in educational institutions
Show them success stories we have learned from Kushal or Chitlesh or Rodrigo 
or Paul - show the bussines why they should hire FOSS Contributors (peer 
certification,  ...) - show the bussines why they should sponsor local FOSS 
Communities ... - show them how to become a FOSS Contributor inside Fedora.
Imagine a government which decides that kids in school get teached leading 
edge software without licencing cost and with the possibility to enhance and 
change that. Imagine a Fedora Artwork Contest in all Schools of your Country

We can enrich Events with valuable content and give them real FOSS 
Partnership Spirit.

CU Joerg


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[Francesco Ugolini]

2009/1/30 Joerg Simon <jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  Dear Ambassadors,
>
>  right now some so called FOSS events appear with a target audience which is
>  more focused for government agencies and bussines. To have Speakers at that
>  events could be a great chance for Fedora to attract them for sponsoring or 
First of all, a big thank goes to Joerg who is constantly paying
attention to community processes, activities and problems.

I think those points are as interesting as important to start a wise
discussion on Fedora and business related events partecipation. Let
FAmSCo know what the community thinks about it, giving suggestion on
Fedora and business (see Joerg post for what this means) and adding
new amazing points to this great list.

It's really important a community participation to better focus our
presence at events and giving all of us, as Ambassadors, usefull and
well done tools.

This from my POV, now it your turn :)

Regards

Francesco Ugolini

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

Joerg Simon wrote:
>  Dear Ambassadors, 
>  
>  right now some so called FOSS events appear with a target audience which is 
>  more focused for government agencies and bussines. To have Speakers at that 
>  events could be a great chance for Fedora to attract them for sponsoring or 
>  contribution. Here are some points i have made already in a discussion with a 
>  small group of people before. Francesco suggested to invite all Ambassadors to 
>  participate in this discussion.
>  
>  There are several topics that we could place to attract government agencies 
>  and business, i am sure they will not know about that right now - and i hope 
>  that we find more here on that list - or like Francesco suggested collect in a 
>  WikiPage. 
>  
>  - Company & Inhouse Builds! - a company who build software as FOSS or modify 
>  FOSS for their own Enterprise Servers can use the benefit of Fedora Processes 
>  and Infrastructure as well as the wide spreading of our Distribution with 
>  contributing to Fedora + EPEL - this is good for the company and for Fedora. 
>  This could be enhanced by a technical Track, to show them how they can package 
>  and spread their Software within own Fedora Spins ...
>   
This also goes to companies building (proprietary?) applications for 
commercial purposes, and stepping up to both maintaining the dependency 
stack for their application, as well as getting their dependencies 
packaged. Of course, this goes through Fedora, and would end up in EPEL 
for them and their customers to use on their Enterprise Linux systems.

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip

[Joerg Simon]

On Sunday 01 February 2009 18:14:52 Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>  This also goes to companies building (proprietary?) applications for
>  commercial purposes, and stepping up to both maintaining the dependency
>  stack for their application, as well as getting their dependencies
>  packaged. Of course, this goes through Fedora, and would end up in EPEL
>  for them and their customers to use on their Enterprise Linux systems. 
True, this could be a easier way for them! 

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[Karsten Wade]

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 08:46:26PM +0100, Joerg Simon wrote:
>  
>  - Company & Inhouse Builds! - a company who build software as FOSS or modify 
>  FOSS for their own Enterprise Servers can use the benefit of Fedora Processes 
>  and Infrastructure as well as the wide spreading of our Distribution with 
>  contributing to Fedora + EPEL - this is good for the company and for Fedora. 
>  This could be enhanced by a technical Track, to show them how they can package 
>  and spread their Software within own Fedora Spins ... 
Last year we started a special interest group for independent software
vendors (ISVs) interested in getting software in to Fedora:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ISV_SIG

(Please pass that around to any open source software companies you
come in contact with.  It's a group of people who understand the
challenges that are unique to ISVs with open source-based products.)

What you are proposing sounds great, and in particular the 'Company
Builds' is something I would like to help with.  Perhaps we can
imagine a class.  It would cover ~4 hours and could be given by many
Fedora Ambassadors:

* Introduction to the Fedora Way -- why we do things the way we do,
  how it really matters

* Overview of Fedora Packaging -- Packaging guidelines to koji, the
  entire process explained from a packager's point of view.

* Fedora Packaging, inside the RPM -- How to build an RPM from the
  spec file view; cf. Spot's recurring talk where he essentially walks
  through an extremely verbosely commented spec file.

* Next steps -- Walk through on finding resources (SIGs, using the
  wiki, getting a FAS account, finding a sponsor, etc.)

>  - Community Consulting! - show them the brilliance of our technology
> with 
>  spacewalk, cobbler, func, puppet, FDS, KVM, FEL, our OLPC Success...  Talk 
>  about the possibility that a Fedora Contributor teaches a company for a 
>  donation to the Fedora Project technicaly to see what the future will bring 
>  and to use that knowledge for their enterprise enviroments because this 
>  Enterprise Servers are build from our roots (or whatever) ...   
I'd like to talk more about this.  One of the roles that our group
inside of Red Hat tries to do is similar to to this.  We of course
know that our small team does not scale very well :)  I am working on
codifying some of our means and methods, and a big portion of that
could be worked on in collaboration with other community members.

Due to the complexity of the idea, such as a contributor teaching a
company about Fedora and community in return for recompense to the
Fedora Project, it has some challengs in figuring out the details.
Let's start!

>  - Build a FOSS Career! - show the government why they should support
> using and 
>  teaching of FOSS in educational institutions
>  Show them success stories we have learned from Kushal or Chitlesh or Rodrigo 
>  or Paul - show the bussines why they should hire FOSS Contributors (peer 
>  certification,  ...) - show the bussines why they should sponsor local FOSS 
>  Communities ... - show them how to become a FOSS Contributor inside Fedora.
>  Imagine a government which decides that kids in school get teached leading 
>  edge software without licencing cost and with the possibility to enhance and 
>  change that. Imagine a Fedora Artwork Contest in all Schools of your Country 
+1 for another good idea. :)

- Karsten
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