FAmSCo nominations are now open!

[Christoph Wickert]

My fellow ambassadors,

as most of you should already know we have a special FAmSCo election for
F18 in order to make the transition to the new FAmSCo election
guidelines happen. Fore more info, please refer to
http://christoph-wickert.de/blog/2012/04/26/the-new-famsco-election-guide...

If you want to run for FAmSCo, please nominate yourself at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_2012_F18_nominations

The nomination period will remain open until 2012-05-15 23:59:59 UTC.

Lets elect the best FAmSCo Fedora ever had!

Kind regards,
Christoph

[Ankur Sinha]

On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 19:44 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>  My fellow ambassadors,
>  
>  as most of you should already know we have a special FAmSCo election for
>  F18 in order to make the transition to the new FAmSCo election
>  guidelines happen. Fore more info, please refer to
>  http://christoph-wickert.de/blog/2012/04/26/the-new-famsco-election-guide...
>  
>  If you want to run for FAmSCo, please nominate yourself at
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_2012_F18_nominations
>  
>  The nomination period will remain open until 2012-05-15 23:59:59 UTC.
>  
>  Lets elect the best FAmSCo Fedora ever had!
>  
>  Kind regards,
>  Christoph
>   
Hi Christoph,

Thank you for encouraging people to participate in the elections and
elect awesome folks to the various bodies :)

I had a minor question though:

I noticed that the current nominees have gone ahead and answered some
questions on the nominations page[1]. Where did you folks get these
questions? The questionnaire page[2] requests that you _not_ post any
answers as of yet. The answers are to be sent to the elections wrangler
(John or me), and we'll post them all up at the same time. This is
intended to ensure that folks write their own answers ;)

I also noticed some questions that you've answered aren't even in the
questionnaire. If you'd like all the candidates to answer these
questions, please add them to the questionnaire page (I'm supposed to
have closed the page already though, but a few more questions won't hurt
really).

Please remove your answers for the time being. We'll post all of them up
on May 23-24 as the time line lists[3] (May 23-24: Questionnaire
responses posted to the wiki prior to the first town hall)

Thank you for stepping up to lead the Ambassadors :)


[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_2012_F18_nominations

[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_elections_questionnaire

[3]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#Committee_Elections_Schedule

-- 
Thanks, 
Regards,
Ankur: "FranciscoD"

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2012, 23:36 +0530 schrieb Ankur Sinha:

>  I noticed that the current nominees have gone ahead and answered
> some
>  questions on the nominations page[1]. Where did you folks get these
>  questions?  
These are the standard questions that have been part of all nominations
for some years now.

>  The questionnaire page[2] requests that you _not_ post any
>  answers as of yet. The answers are to be sent to the elections wrangler
>  (John or me), and we'll post them all up at the same time. This is
>  intended to ensure that folks write their own answers ;) 
Too late. The wiki has a history, so we cannot really remove the
questions nor the answers.

I suggest leaving them there for now, but this is up to John as the
election wrangler and to you as the one who is doing the questionaire.

Kind regards,
Christoph

[inode0]

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Christoph Wickert
<christoph.wickert(a)googlemail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2012, 23:36 +0530 schrieb Ankur Sinha:
>
> > I noticed that the current nominees have gone ahead and answered some
> > questions on the nominations page[1]. Where did you folks get these
> > questions?
>
>  These are the standard questions that have been part of all nominations
>  for some years now.
>
> > The questionnaire page[2] requests that you _not_ post any
> > answers as of yet. The answers are to be sent to the elections wrangler
> > (John or me), and we'll post them all up at the same time. This is
> > intended to ensure that folks write their own answers ;)
>
>  Too late. The wiki has a history, so we cannot really remove the
>  questions nor the answers.
>
>  I suggest leaving them there for now, but this is up to John as the
>  election wrangler and to you as the one who is doing the questionaire. 
Yeah, these are questions FAmSCo chose to ask to be included as part
of the information requested during the nomination process. These are
not related to the questionnaire at all.

I think everything is fine on the nomination page and the information
being provided by candidates is very helpful to voters.

John

[Ankur Sinha]

On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 20:31 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>  Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.2012, 23:36 +0530 schrieb Ankur Sinha:
>  
>  > I noticed that the current nominees have gone ahead and answered some
>  > questions on the nominations page[1]. Where did you folks get these
>  > questions? 
>  
>  These are the standard questions that have been part of all nominations
>  for some years now.
>  
>  > The questionnaire page[2] requests that you _not_ post any
>  > answers as of yet. The answers are to be sent to the elections wrangler
>  > (John or me), and we'll post them all up at the same time. This is
>  > intended to ensure that folks write their own answers ;)
>  
>  Too late. The wiki has a history, so we cannot really remove the
>  questions nor the answers.
>  
>  I suggest leaving them there for now, but this is up to John as the
>  election wrangler and to you as the one who is doing the questionaire.
>  
>  Kind regards,
>  Christoph
>   
Aye, 

I've made the required changes to the wiki page to make it more
coherent. 

-- 
Thanks, 
Regards,
Ankur: "FranciscoD"

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/

Questionnaire handling (Was: Re: FAmSCo nominations are now open!)

[Mathieu Bridon]

On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 23:36 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>  Please remove your answers for the time being. We'll post all of
> them up
>  on May 23-24 as the time line lists[3] (May 23-24: Questionnaire
>  responses posted to the wiki prior to the first town hall) 
I don't understand that. Why would it hurt to have more time to read the
answers from the candidates?

The current process is that even though some answers are available
early, we still have to wait for a while, and then we must read them all
in one day if we want to have a more interesting townhall where we don't
just ask the same questions again because we didn't have time to read
the answers.

To me it looks like process for the sake of process. Questions are
published, let candidates publish their answers as soon as they can, and
give voters more time to read them at their own pace. Or is there
something I'm missing that would make this a bad idea?

I don't know, but Ankur's answer (quoted above) kind of reminded me of
the French presidential election we just had, where I received the
platforms for the candidates of the first round after the results of the
second round were announced. :)


-- 
Mathieu

Questionnaire handling (Was: Re: FAmSCo nominations are now open!)

[inode0]

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Mathieu Bridon
<bochecha(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 23:36 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > Please remove your answers for the time being. We'll post all of them up
> > on May 23-24 as the time line lists[3] (May 23-24: Questionnaire
> > responses posted to the wiki prior to the first town hall)
>
>  I don't understand that. Why would it hurt to have more time to read the
>  answers from the candidates? 
I think there was some confusion here but we have handled the
questionnaires both ways in the past. Generally people seem to feel it
is more fair to post all the answers at once so those who submit
answers later than others don't benefit from reading the answers given
by other candidates before they submit their own answers. There are
arguments both ways.

>  The current process is that even though some answers are available
>  early, we still have to wait for a while, and then we must read them all
>  in one day if we want to have a more interesting townhall where we don't
>  just ask the same questions again because we didn't have time to read
>  the answers. 
The answers posted were not to the questionnaire if I understand, they
were answers to questions asked of candidates by FAmSCo as part of the
nomination process and they aren't being removed.

John

Questionnaire handling (Was: Re: FAmSCo nominations are now open!)

[Mathieu Bridon]

On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 23:38 -0500, inode0 wrote:
>  On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Mathieu Bridon
>  <bochecha(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  > On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 23:36 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>  >> Please remove your answers for the time being. We'll post all of them up
>  >> on May 23-24 as the time line lists[3] (May 23-24: Questionnaire
>  >> responses posted to the wiki prior to the first town hall)
>  >
>  > I don't understand that. Why would it hurt to have more time to read the
>  > answers from the candidates?
>  
>  I think there was some confusion here but we have handled the
>  questionnaires both ways in the past. Generally people seem to feel it
>  is more fair to post all the answers at once so those who submit
>  answers later than others don't benefit from reading the answers given
>  by other candidates before they submit their own answers. There are
>  arguments both ways. 
Right, one could say that those who actually commit to answering fast
have both/either:
1. more time they can devote to their role if they are elected
2. already thought quite a lot about the problem before they were even
asked the question

Both seem like the mark of a strong candidate to me, whereas waiting for
the other ones instead seems like leveling down to the common
denominator.

Anyway, it doesn't matter that much, if people are happy the way it is.

>  > The current process is that even though some answers are
> available
>  > early, we still have to wait for a while, and then we must read them all
>  > in one day if we want to have a more interesting townhall where we don't
>  > just ask the same questions again because we didn't have time to read
>  > the answers.
>  
>  The answers posted were not to the questionnaire if I understand, they
>  were answers to questions asked of candidates by FAmSCo as part of the
>  nomination process and they aren't being removed. 
I know, which is why I changed the subject of the email and replied
exclusively to the sentence that I quoted from Ankur's email where he
said that answers to the questionnaire must not be posted before the
officially blessed time.


-- 
Mathieu

[Ankur Sinha]

On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 19:44 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>  The nomination period will remain open until 2012-05-15 23:59:59
> UTC.
>  
>  Lets elect the best FAmSCo Fedora ever had!
>  
>   
Hi!

I just found the template in the source. I've updated the page with
questions that require more generic information, rather than your views.
Please only answer these for the moment.

All questions regarding your views will be in the questionnaire, and are
to be submitted to the wranglers. I'll finalize the questions in the
questionnaire and send them out by tomorrow. You will have until May 22
to send in the answers. (I'll send out a formal email with instructions
too,)

The idea is that each nominee should answer the questions him/herself
without having knowledge about the other candidates' ideas. 
-- 
Thanks, 
Regards,
Ankur: "FranciscoD"

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/