Fwd: fedorahosted.org retirement 2017-02-28

[Joerg Simon]

Hi Ambassadors,

this is a heads up i just got from Infrastructure regarding retirement
of TRAC fedorahosted.org - Ambassador Tools

emea-swag-tracking
fama
famsco

 - see also e-mail below -

as Ambassadors rely heavily on these tools for membership-tracking -
reimbursement etc. i expect famsco takes action soon on the measures
suggested by Kevin for migration - do not forget you have to change the
links and documentation of the workflows!

cu Joerg


-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: fedorahosted.org retirement 2017-02-28
Datum: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 22:52:44 +0000
Von: kevin(a)fedoraproject.org
An: jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org

Greetings.
You are getting this email because your Fedora account has TRAC_ADMIN on
one or more trac projects at fedorahosted.org.

We are planning to retire fedorahosted.org on 2017-02-28.

See the announcement at:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail]...

You are listed as TRAC_ADMIN on the following fedorahosted.org
projects:

(If you have already moved your projects, please disreguard this email)

emea-swag-tracking
fama
famsco
security-spin

If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to reply
to this email or:
file a ticket: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues/
ask on irc: #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net
ask on list:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail]...

Thanks,
kevin

[Christoph Wickert]

2016-11-04 10:42 GMT+01:00 Joerg Simon <jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  Hi Ambassadors,
>
>  this is a heads up i just got from Infrastructure regarding retirement
>  of TRAC fedorahosted.org - Ambassador Tools 
Hi,

when I raised my concerns about this migration months ago, I was told
that I should file individual bugs against pagure instead. I already
filed some and have a list of ~10 more I need to file. So far only one
bug was fixed, thus I doubt all problems will be resolved by the time
of the migration.

The biggest problem I see is that we need per-ticket ACLs. At least
the emea-swag-tracking trac uses the private tickets plugin. I don't
see anything like this in pagure, in fact, developers told me they
have no plans to implement something like this, all authentication
should happen elsewhere.

Any idea what we are going to do about this?

Best regards,
Christoph

[Fabio Alessandro Locati]

On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 02:30:41PM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>  when I raised my concerns about this migration months ago, I was
> told
>  that I should file individual bugs against pagure instead. I already
>  filed some and have a list of ~10 more I need to file. So far only one
>  bug was fixed, thus I doubt all problems will be resolved by the time
>  of the migration. 
Hi Christoph,

I think you should open all tickets ASAP and then we should evaluate
which bugs we (Ambassadors EMEA, famsco, ...) think are show-stoppers.
With that list we should then go to Infra/Pagure/FedoraHosted team and
try to make a case for them and eventually ask to postpone the
FedoraHosted retirement until the most important bugs are fixed (in the
same way we have blocking bugs for Fedora releases).

Those are my 2cc,
Fale
-- 
Fabio Alessandro Locati
Red Hat - Senior Consultant

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[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 02:30:41PM +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>  2016-11-04 10:42 GMT+01:00 Joerg Simon
> <jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  > Hi Ambassadors,
>  >
>  > this is a heads up i just got from Infrastructure regarding retirement
>  > of TRAC fedorahosted.org - Ambassador Tools
>  
>  Hi,
>  
>  when I raised my concerns about this migration months ago, I was told
>  that I should file individual bugs against pagure instead. I already
>  filed some and have a list of ~10 more I need to file. So far only one
>  bug was fixed, thus I doubt all problems will be resolved by the time
>  of the migration. 
Looking at: 
https://pagure.io/pagure/issues?status=Open&author=cwickert
I see 2 bugs that are still open out of 4 and the 2 remaining include one about
doc asking for more inputs and one that I am still unclear on how to reproduce.

I would be interested in your other 10 tickets

>  
>  The biggest problem I see is that we need per-ticket ACLs. At least
>  the emea-swag-tracking trac uses the private tickets plugin. I don't
>  see anything like this in pagure, in fact, developers told me they
>  have no plans to implement something like this, all authentication
>  should happen elsewhere. 
You're speaking about private ticket and authentication, I am not sure to see
how they relate.
Private tickets is in pagure for a while now, there is even an setting to make
ticket private by default on a project if desired.

Authentication however is using either openid, FAS or local accounts. The pagure
instance on pagure.io uses FAS and that is indeed unlikely to change.


Pierre

[Justin W. Flory]

On 11/04/2016 09:30 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>  2016-11-04 10:42 GMT+01:00 Joerg Simon
> <jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
> > Hi Ambassadors,
> >
> > this is a heads up i just got from Infrastructure regarding retirement
> > of TRAC fedorahosted.org - Ambassador Tools
>
>  Hi,
>
>  when I raised my concerns about this migration months ago, I was told
>  that I should file individual bugs against pagure instead. I already
>  filed some and have a list of ~10 more I need to file. So far only one
>  bug was fixed, thus I doubt all problems will be resolved by the time
>  of the migration.
>
>  The biggest problem I see is that we need per-ticket ACLs. At least
>  the emea-swag-tracking trac uses the private tickets plugin. I don't
>  see anything like this in pagure, in fact, developers told me they
>  have no plans to implement something like this, all authentication
>  should happen elsewhere.
>
>  Any idea what we are going to do about this?
>
>  Best regards,
>  Christoph
>  
Hey Christoph,

Support for private tickets has recently expanded in Pagure. It's 
possible for tickets to be marked as "private tickets" on an individual 
basis and only people explicitly added to the repository will be able to 
access them. It might be worth considering splitting the primary EMEA 
Trac into two Pagure repos, one for public and private information. The 
public one would be able to have all Ambassadors in EMEA added to it, 
while the private one would only have regional administrators / position 
holders added to it.

FAmNA just migrated our public Trac to Pagure today, and we have plans 
to migrate our private one over in the future (there's an option in the 
importer tool to import all tickets as private by default).

-- 
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com

[Lailah]

Why all tickets as private by default? Just curiosity.

Thanks, Sylvia

[Justin W. Flory]

On 11/10/2016 02:03 AM, Ms Sanchez wrote:
>  Why all tickets as private by default? Just curiosity.
>
>  Thanks, Sylvia
>  
The tickets in the private FAmNA Trac contain information like addresses 
and phone numbers of Ambassadors. This info is kept private for privacy 
reasons (only the person who filed the ticket and regional treasurers / 
logisticians can view those tickets).

-- 
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com

[Lailah]

On 10/11/16 08:19, Justin W. Flory wrote:
>  On 11/10/2016 02:03 AM, Ms Sanchez wrote:
> >
> > Why all tickets as private by default? Just curiosity.
> >
> > Thanks, Sylvia
> >
>
>  The tickets in the private FAmNA Trac contain information like 
>  addresses and phone numbers of Ambassadors. This info is kept private 
>  for privacy reasons (only the person who filed the ticket and regional 
>  treasurers / logisticians can view those tickets). 
Oh, good, now I understand.  Thanks!

[Justin W. Flory]

On 11/04/2016 05:42 AM, Joerg Simon wrote:
>  Hi Ambassadors,
>
>  this is a heads up i just got from Infrastructure regarding retirement
>  of TRAC fedorahosted.org - Ambassador Tools
>
>  emea-swag-tracking
>  fama
>  famsco
>
>   - see also e-mail below -
>
>  as Ambassadors rely heavily on these tools for membership-tracking -
>  reimbursement etc. i expect famsco takes action soon on the measures
>  suggested by Kevin for migration - do not forget you have to change the
>  links and documentation of the workflows!
>
>  cu Joerg
>  
Hi Joerg, thanks for forwarding this on! I think the discussion is 
already starting in NA and LATAM, but this would be a great opportunity 
for all of the regions to work together to implement a similar layout / 
system across all regions to help keep things consistent. I'll be making 
an announcement post for North America shortly to explain usage after 
our recent migration.

>  -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>  Betreff: fedorahosted.org retirement 2017-02-28
>  Datum: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 22:52:44 +0000
>  Von: kevin(a)fedoraproject.org
>  An: jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org
>
>  Greetings.
>  You are getting this email because your Fedora account has TRAC_ADMIN on
>  one or more trac projects at fedorahosted.org.
>
>  We are planning to retire fedorahosted.org on 2017-02-28.
>
>  See the announcement at:
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail]...
>
>  You are listed as TRAC_ADMIN on the following fedorahosted.org
>  projects:
>
>  (If you have already moved your projects, please disreguard this email)
>
>  emea-swag-tracking
>  fama
>  famsco
>  security-spin
>
>  If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to reply
>  to this email or:
>  file a ticket: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues/
>  ask on irc: #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net
>  ask on list:
>  https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail]...
>
>  Thanks,
>  kevin
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Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com