[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Idea: Fedora in Library

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

Hello everyone,
I think im going to write a lot lol.
Ok an Ubuntu marketing agent told me about their idea of having Ubuntu
in Libraries.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries
No, its not about installing Ubuntu in the computers but to lend Open
source cds to their subscribed users. Actually they copied it from
Openoffice.
http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/11838/Open%20Sourc...

Personally its a wonderful idea because having CDS in libraries will
affect the complete newbies mind set of fear towards linux.
Considering the fact that librairies is a body of trust.

This is mostly an activity done by the lug. Of course if we
ambassadors provide enough materials/translation to.

Im eager to do it right away in Strasbourg. But comparing to another
distros like ubuntu,suse,etc they already have enough materials in
their pocket. Example, live cds. I prefer to wait for Fedora to catch
up with materials.

Let's take for example, Fedora. If a lug happens to realise this
project. Among other distros we will only have handouts and Fedora
DVDs. Meanwhile students or anyone will prefer to give a try to live
cds, leaving Fedora behind. Saying that this particular live distro is
based on Fedora isn't enough for the complete newbies. It would rather
be useless. If someone tried the "official" fedora LIVE cd if he/she
likes it he/she can easily get the install DVD for free for their
local lug or lug ambassador or from the library directly.

Some testimonials:
http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/04/16/1923248.shtml?tid=137&tid=1...
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/15/193231.shtml?tid=146&tid=149&t...

Since in the last 3 meetings (see
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule ) we didn't really
progress in Emails, funds, Schwag because we are waiting for
additional info. I suggest we talk and plan about this idea. I know
ambassadors from India or Brazil will have alot to say :))

I know we (majority)ambassadors we only popped in during meetings
hours, talk and talk. This sounds like acting. Its time to move A55 :)
for REAL action.

Chitlesh GOORAH

--
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

[Robert Whetsel]

Chitlesh,

spot on!

Quoting Chitlesh GOORAH :
> Hello everyone,
> I think im going to write a lot lol.
> Ok an Ubuntu marketing agent told me about their idea of having Ubuntu
> in Libraries.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries
> No, its not about installing Ubuntu in the computers but to lend Open
> source cds to their subscribed users. Actually they copied it from
> Openoffice.

http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/11838/Open%20Sourc...
> Personally its a wonderful idea because having CDS in libraries will
> affect the complete newbies mind set of fear towards linux.
> Considering the fact that librairies is a body of trust.
>
> This is mostly an activity done by the lug. Of course if we
> ambassadors provide enough materials/translation to.
>
> Im eager to do it right away in Strasbourg. But comparing to another
> distros like ubuntu,suse,etc they already have enough materials in
> their pocket. Example, live cds. I prefer to wait for Fedora to catch
> up with materials.
>
> Let's take for example, Fedora. If a lug happens to realise this
> project. Among other distros we will only have handouts and Fedora
> DVDs. Meanwhile students or anyone will prefer to give a try to live
> cds, leaving Fedora behind. Saying that this particular live distro is
> based on Fedora isn't enough for the complete newbies. It would rather
> be useless. If someone tried the "official" fedora LIVE cd if he/she
> likes it he/she can easily get the install DVD for free for their
> local lug or lug ambassador or from the library directly.
>
> Some testimonials:

http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/04/16/1923248.shtml?tid=137&tid=1...
> http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/15/193231.shtml?tid=146&tid=149&t...
>
> Since in the last 3 meetings (see
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule ) we didn't really
> progress in Emails, funds, Schwag because we are waiting for
> additional info. I suggest we talk and plan about this idea. I know
> ambassadors from India or Brazil will have alot to say :))
>
> I know we (majority)ambassadors we only popped in during meetings
> hours, talk and talk. This sounds like acting. Its time to move A55 :)
> for REAL action.
>
> Chitlesh GOORAH
>
> --
> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
>
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[Thijs H]

@Chitlesh: We can also try te get some Fedora-related books* in the
libraries. I'm living in a small town with a very small library, but I think
it is possible to request books at bigger libraries.

If I didn't have a book about Linux when I began with it, I probably
wouldn't have survived my first Linux-experience :-)

And what does a 'Project Leader' have to do?

- Thijs

* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Books/FedoraBooks

On 1/14/06, Robert Whetsel  wrote:
> Chitlesh,
>
> spot on!
>
> Quoting Chitlesh GOORAH :
> > Hello everyone,
> > I think im going to write a lot lol.
> > Ok an Ubuntu marketing agent told me about their idea of having Ubuntu
> > in Libraries.
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries
> > No, its not about installing Ubuntu in the computers but to lend Open
> > source cds to their subscribed users. Actually they copied it from
> > Openoffice.
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/11838/Open%20Sourc...
> > Personally its a wonderful idea because having CDS in libraries will
> > affect the complete newbies mind set of fear towards linux.
> > Considering the fact that librairies is a body of trust.
> >
> > This is mostly an activity done by the lug. Of course if we
> > ambassadors provide enough materials/translation to.
> >
> > Im eager to do it right away in Strasbourg. But comparing to another
> > distros like ubuntu,suse,etc they already have enough materials in
> > their pocket. Example, live cds. I prefer to wait for Fedora to catch
> > up with materials.
> >
> > Let's take for example, Fedora. If a lug happens to realise this
> > project. Among other distros we will only have handouts and Fedora
> > DVDs. Meanwhile students or anyone will prefer to give a try to live
> > cds, leaving Fedora behind. Saying that this particular live distro is
> > based on Fedora isn't enough for the complete newbies. It would rather
> > be useless. If someone tried the "official" fedora LIVE cd if he/she
> > likes it he/she can easily get the install DVD for free for their
> > local lug or lug ambassador or from the library directly.
> >
> > Some testimonials:
>
> http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/04/16/1923248.shtml?tid=137&tid=1...
> >
>
> http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/15/193231.shtml?tid=146&tid=149&t...
> > Since in the last 3 meetings (see
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule ) we didn't really
> > progress in Emails, funds, Schwag because we are waiting for
> > additional info. I suggest we talk and plan about this idea. I know
> > ambassadors from India or Brazil will have alot to say :))
> >
> > I know we (majority)ambassadors we only popped in during meetings
> > hours, talk and talk. This sounds like acting. Its time to move A55 :)
> > for REAL action.
> >
> > Chitlesh GOORAH
> >
> > --
> > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Robert C. Whetsel - CEO & Founder
> Fedora Global Ambassador
>
> RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc.
> DBA: The Raven Group (1992)
> Open Source Architects Specializing in
> Enterprise Linux Business Solutions
>
> Frederick Innovative Technology Center
> 401 Rosemont Avenue
> Frederick, MD 21701
> 301.898.3817
> www.ravensong.com
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

[Nayyar Ahmad]

Hi,

My  suggestion is that, it will be more beneficial if we provide these
material in Univerisitie's Libraries, where students can take these
cds and  after use/installation they will return back, also i would
like to make a point here that there should be an Ambassador country
wise who lead all the other Ambassador from that country, that will
help us to assess any Ambassador demand and activities in that
country.

thanks

On 1/14/06, Thijs  wrote:
> @Chitlesh: We can also try te get some Fedora-related books* in the
> libraries. I'm living in a small town with a very small library, but I think
> it is possible to request books at bigger libraries.
>
> If I didn't have a book about Linux when I began with it, I probably
> wouldn't have survived my first Linux-experience :-)
>
> And what does a 'Project Leader' have to do?
> Thijs
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Books/FedoraBooks
>
> On 1/14/06, Robert Whetsel  wrote:
> > Chitlesh,
> >
> > spot on!
> >
> > Quoting Chitlesh GOORAH :
> > > Hello everyone,
> > > I think im going to write a lot lol.
> > > Ok an Ubuntu marketing agent told me about their idea of having Ubuntu
> > > in Libraries.
> > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries
> > > No, its not about installing Ubuntu in the computers but to lend Open
> > > source cds to their subscribed users. Actually they copied it from
> > > Openoffice.
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/11838/Open%20Sourc...
> > > Personally its a wonderful idea because having CDS in libraries will
> > > affect the complete newbies mind set of fear towards linux.
> > > Considering the fact that librairies is a body of trust.
> > >
> > > This is mostly an activity done by the lug. Of course if we
> > > ambassadors provide enough materials/translation to.
> > >
> > > Im eager to do it right away in Strasbourg. But comparing to another
> > > distros like ubuntu,suse,etc they already have enough materials in
> > > their pocket. Example, live cds. I prefer to wait for Fedora to catch
> > > up with materials.
> > >
> > > Let's take for example, Fedora. If a lug happens to realise this
> > > project. Among other distros we will only have handouts and Fedora
> > > DVDs. Meanwhile students or anyone will prefer to give a try to live
> > > cds, leaving Fedora behind. Saying that this particular live distro is
> > > based on Fedora isn't enough for the complete newbies. It would rather
> > > be useless. If someone tried the "official" fedora LIVE cd if he/she
> > > likes it he/she can easily get the install DVD for free for their
> > > local lug or lug ambassador or from the library directly.
> > >
> > > Some testimonials:
>
> http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/04/16/1923248.shtml?tid=137&tid=1...
> > >
>
> http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/15/193231.shtml?tid=146&tid=149&t...
> > > Since in the last 3 meetings (see
> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule ) we
>
> didn't really
> > > progress in Emails, funds, Schwag because we are waiting for
> > > additional info. I suggest we talk and plan about this idea. I know
> > > ambassadors from India or Brazil will have alot to say :))
> > >
> > > I know we (majority)ambassadors we only popped in during meetings
> > > hours, talk and talk. This sounds like acting. Its time to move A55 :)
> > > for REAL action.
> > >
> > > Chitlesh GOORAH
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
>
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Robert C. Whetsel - CEO & Founder
> > Fedora Global Ambassador
> >
> > RavenSong Open Technologies, Inc.
> > DBA: The Raven Group (1992)
> > Open Source Architects Specializing in
> > Enterprise Linux Business Solutions
> >
> > Frederick Innovative Technology Center
> > 401 Rosemont Avenue
> > Frederick, MD 21701
> > 301.898.3817
> > www.ravensong.com
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
>
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> >
>
> --
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> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

--
Nayyar Ahmad
CEO, OSSP, Pakistan.
Email: [e-mail]
Cell: [phone]
Office: [phone]
Web: www.ossp.com.pk

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

> My  suggestion is that, it will be more beneficial if we provide these
> material in Univerisitie's Libraries, where students can take these
> cds and  after use/installation they will return back,

True. And they can also make a copy :)
> also i would
> like to make a point here that there should be an Ambassador country
> wise who lead all the other Ambassador from that country, that will
> help us to assess any Ambassador demand and activities in that
> country.
> > If I didn't have a book about Linux when I began with it, I probably
> > wouldn't have survived my first Linux-experience :-)

True again. The idea of having the install cds and live cds will
attract more audience than giving them books to read. Its more
exciting to get started right away intuitively :)
> > And what does a 'Project Leader' have to do?

answering Thijs and Nayyar suggestion, the "Project Leaders" is
meaningly. I prefer Nayyar suggestion saying that each ambassador will
be the "FedoraLibraries" Leader in their respective country.

--
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

Last time, during the meeting we could not talk much about it. Rather
I was too stupid during the meeting. This is mostly a topic to talk
about in the list rather than during meetings. Here I am again.

Ok We have some new ambassadors around, so there's a link about the
FedoraLibrary idea:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/FedoraLibraries
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2006-January/msg00027....

Now Ill call for Brainstorming :)
Bring your ideas. What do we need? Who will start where? Are there any
restrictions with some kind of law?

--
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: Idea: Fedora in Library

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

Ok, here I am again with FedoraLibraries
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/FedoraLibraries I have updated
it some days ago.

Following a discussion on #fedora-mktg, mether, cds, puneet_batura and
I, Im starting the discussion again.

Product: Fedora Core 5
Target: Libraires

My wish, for the moment, is that we need to establish a procedure to
state what needs to be done by any ambassador to be able to launch
this project in his/her local librairies.

Ex:
contact the director of the library
schedule a meeting
give the ambassador appropriate tools for the meeting (what to say)
Get an ISSN number.
have a generic DVD case template
build/apprend a wiki page to list the name of the libraries which
supporting our project
etc.
do add more

If we have this done, any ambassador or newcomer will have this
material at his disposal for marketing.

FedoraLibrairies is also another way to support Thomas Chung's project
"Free Media" since anyone will have the ability to copy the dvd.

At my university, I myself am providing LiveCD for my mates. I just
started a wikipage about his in French to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ChitleshGoorah/FedoraLiveCDs.  (Most of
the French dont like to read any article if its not in French)
ThomasCarnnot, you are welcome to improve it :)

If we got enought material, Ill write something in FedoraNews (which
Im saying to ThomasChung since 2 weeks) to get it more support, even
from Fedora Users.

pop your suggestions :)

Chitlesh GOORAH

On 1/13/06, Chitlesh GOORAH  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> I think im going to write a lot lol.
> Ok an Ubuntu marketing agent told me about their idea of having Ubuntu
> in Libraries.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries
> No, its not about installing Ubuntu in the computers but to lend Open
> source cds to their subscribed users. Actually they copied it from
> Openoffice.
> http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/11838/Open%20Sourc...
>
> Personally its a wonderful idea because having CDS in libraries will
> affect the complete newbies mind set of fear towards linux.
> Considering the fact that librairies is a body of trust.
>
> This is mostly an activity done by the lug. Of course if we
> ambassadors provide enough materials/translation to.
>
> Im eager to do it right away in Strasbourg. But comparing to another
> distros like ubuntu,suse,etc they already have enough materials in
> their pocket. Example, live cds. I prefer to wait for Fedora to catch
> up with materials.
>
> Let's take for example, Fedora. If a lug happens to realise this
> project. Among other distros we will only have handouts and Fedora
> DVDs. Meanwhile students or anyone will prefer to give a try to live
> cds, leaving Fedora behind. Saying that this particular live distro is
> based on Fedora isn't enough for the complete newbies. It would rather
> be useless. If someone tried the "official" fedora LIVE cd if he/she
> likes it he/she can easily get the install DVD for free for their
> local lug or lug ambassador or from the library directly.
>
> Some testimonials:
> http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/04/16/1923248.shtml?tid=137&tid=1...
> http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/15/193231.shtml?tid=146&tid=149&t...
>
> Since in the last 3 meetings (see
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule ) we didn't really
> progress in Emails, funds, Schwag because we are waiting for
> additional info. I suggest we talk and plan about this idea. I know
> ambassadors from India or Brazil will have alot to say :))
>
> I know we (majority)ambassadors we only popped in during meetings
> hours, talk and talk. This sounds like acting. Its time to move A55 :)
> for REAL action.
>
> Chitlesh GOORAH
>
> --
> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

--
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: Idea: Fedora in Library

[David Barzilay]

Hi Chitlesh,

Interesting approach and great initiative!

That's exactly what we gotta do: offer the appropriate materials and
infrastructure for Ambassadors perform their "spread-the-word"
activities worldwide.

A couple of comments inline...

Em Seg, 2006-02-20 às 20:27 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH escreveu:
> Ok, here I am again with FedoraLibraries
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/FedoraLibraries I have updated
> it some days ago.
>
> Following a discussion on #fedora-mktg, mether, cds, puneet_batura and
> I, Im starting the discussion again.
>
> Product: Fedora Core 5
> Target: Libraires
>
> My wish, for the moment, is that we need to establish a procedure to
> state what needs to be done by any ambassador to be able to launch
> this project in his/her local librairies.

more than a procedure, i'd call it a project...
> Ex:
> contact the director of the library

i'd include preparing a proposal here - outlining the scope, goals,
operation, resources, benefits and maybe a rough timeline of the project

pls contact me offline if you need a hand to create some sort of
template
> schedule a meeting
> give the ambassador appropriate tools for the meeting (what to say)
> Get an ISSN number.
> have a generic DVD case template
> build/apprend a wiki page to list the name of the libraries which
> supporting our project
> etc.
> do add more
>
> If we have this done, any ambassador or newcomer will have this
> material at his disposal for marketing.

true! the referred template can be "localized" into different markets
> FedoraLibrairies is also another way to support Thomas Chung's project
> "Free Media" since anyone will have the ability to copy the dvd.
>
> At my university, I myself am providing LiveCD for my mates. I just
> started a wikipage about his in French to
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ChitleshGoorah/FedoraLiveCDs.  (Most of
> the French dont like to read any article if its not in French)
> ThomasCarnnot, you are welcome to improve it :)
>
> If we got enought material, Ill write something in FedoraNews (which
> Im saying to ThomasChung since 2 weeks) to get it more support, even
> from Fedora Users.
>
> pop your suggestions :)
>
> Chitlesh GOORAH
>
> On 1/13/06, Chitlesh GOORAH  wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > I think im going to write a lot lol.
> > Ok an Ubuntu marketing agent told me about their idea of having Ubuntu
> > in Libraries.
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuInLibraries
> > No, its not about installing Ubuntu in the computers but to lend Open
> > source cds to their subscribed users. Actually they copied it from
> > Openoffice.
> > http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/11838/Open%20Sourc...
> >
> > Personally its a wonderful idea because having CDS in libraries will
> > affect the complete newbies mind set of fear towards linux.
> > Considering the fact that librairies is a body of trust.
> >
> > This is mostly an activity done by the lug. Of course if we
> > ambassadors provide enough materials/translation to.
> >
> > Im eager to do it right away in Strasbourg. But comparing to another
> > distros like ubuntu,suse,etc they already have enough materials in
> > their pocket. Example, live cds. I prefer to wait for Fedora to catch
> > up with materials.
> >
> > Let's take for example, Fedora. If a lug happens to realise this
> > project. Among other distros we will only have handouts and Fedora
> > DVDs. Meanwhile students or anyone will prefer to give a try to live
> > cds, leaving Fedora behind. Saying that this particular live distro is
> > based on Fedora isn't enough for the complete newbies. It would rather
> > be useless. If someone tried the "official" fedora LIVE cd if he/she
> > likes it he/she can easily get the install DVD for free for their
> > local lug or lug ambassador or from the library directly.
> >
> > Some testimonials:
> > http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/04/16/1923248.shtml?tid=137&tid=1...
> > http://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/15/193231.shtml?tid=146&tid=149&t...
> >
> > Since in the last 3 meetings (see
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule ) we didn't really
> > progress in Emails, funds, Schwag because we are waiting for
> > additional info. I suggest we talk and plan about this idea. I know
> > ambassadors from India or Brazil will have alot to say :))
> >
> > I know we (majority)ambassadors we only popped in during meetings
> > hours, talk and talk. This sounds like acting. Its time to move A55 :)
> > for REAL action.
> >
> > Chitlesh GOORAH
> >
> > --
> > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
>
> --
> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
>
> --
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> [e-mail]
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[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: Idea: Fedora in Library

[Chitlesh GOORAH]

> pls contact me offline if you need a hand to create some sort of
> template

I prefer that every discussion should be centralized to the list and
to the related wiki page. :)

--
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

[Fedora-ambassadors-list] Re: Idea: Fedora in Library

[David Barzilay]

Em Ter, 2006-02-21 às 12:29 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH escreveu:
> > pls contact me offline if you need a hand to create some sort of
> > template
>
> I prefer that every discussion should be centralized to the list and
> to the related wiki page. :)

No probs. My input is already in the list archives. Feel free to flame
it...
> --
> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com