Indian Ambassadors Meeting Irc Log

[jose manimala]

The meeting held on the #Fedora-India Irc channel on irc.freenode.net
Date: (June 13th 2007)
Time: 2100 IST
Participants:
-> JoseManimala (<jose_manimala>)
-> SiddharthUpmanyu (<techbugs>)
-> TejasDinkar (<gja>)
-> KushalDas (<kushal>)
-> Vignesh (vignesh)

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[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:01:29] <gja>	so isn't there a meeting now?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:01:59] <jose_manimala>	es
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:02:04] <techbugs>	yes.. it is 2100
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:02:12] <techbugs>	shall we begin
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:02:40] <jose_manimala>	yes
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:02:53] <techbugs>	wiki names...
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:02:54] <gja>	kushal: wake up
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:03:05] <jose_manimala>	JoseManimala
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:03:08] <techbugs>	SiddharthUpmanyu
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:03:19] <gja>	TejasDinkar
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:03:21] <kushal>	KushalDas
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:03:42] <gja>	I think that's it :D
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:03:54] <techbugs>	so what we'd like to discuss today...
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:04:17] <jose_manimala>	We need to fix a
permanent time for the meetings!! Thats the first thing
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:04:34] <techbugs>	suggestions..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:04:55] <gja>	i don't think any of the redhat
guys can come so late
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:05:04] <kushal>	gja, +1
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:05:24] <jose_manimala>	gja +1
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:05:41] <techbugs>	then how about 1400 or 1600
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:05:45] <jose_manimala>	maybe sometime on the
weekends, saturday maybe
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:05:52] <kushal>	no way
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:06:00] <kushal>	not weekends
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:06:01] <gja>	I say wednesdays, around 1800
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:06:29] <jose_manimala>	maybe a little earlier 1600
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:06:49] <gja>	that excludes the college crowd
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:07:25] <jose_manimala>	thats true....  i say
1800 is fine then.... college is a problem
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:08:03] <techbugs>	no issues with me
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:08:47] <kushal>	next issue :
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:09:03] <gja>	hmmm, what's up with all the formalities ;)
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:09:38] <techbugs>	well need someone to update
wiki about india meetings and agendas things... a new page might
help...
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[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:09:46] <gja>	FDA in India(I think we can have a
day for freedom - Fedora Freedom)
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:10:13] <kushal>	place + date + what ??
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:10:34] <josemathew>	sorry got cut off i am on gprs
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:10:49] <gja>	don't ask me, it was in the mail to
ambassidors :D
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[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:10:55] <kushal>	lol
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:11:11] <gja>	*ambassadors*
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:11:15] <kushal>	josemathew, so, the next point
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:11:25] <gja>	no, we aren't done
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:11:30] <gja>	someone needs to update wiki
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:11:40] <gja>	josemathew: will you take the initiative?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:11:49] <josemathew>	ok i guess
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:12:30] <josemathew>	FDA should be a time when we
can get together.... can you suggest a place where we can meet
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[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:12:42] <kushal>	Bangalore
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:12:53] <gja>	is that a physical meeting place or
an online one?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:13:16] <josemathew>	physical yes
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:13:26] <kushal>	during FOSS.IN
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:13:42] <techbugs>	frequency
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:13:54] <kushal>	techbugs, once in a year
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[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:15:02] <vignesh>	Hey all
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:15:28] <gja>	i think we'll need to meet at least
once before FOSS.in
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:15:29] <kushal>	vignesh, heya
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:15:36] <gja>	so that we can plan WHAT we'll do
at foss.in ;)
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:15:53] <vignesh>	Hi kushal
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:16:11] <kushal>	gja, is it possible to get some faces ?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:16:18] <kushal>	I mean people
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:16:29] <gja>	some people for what?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:17:07] <kushal>	that meet before FOSS.IN
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:17:34] <gja>	i'm not sure
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:17:48] <kushal>	me too
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:17:50] <gja>	but the ambassadors may be busy
during foss.in :D
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:18:22] <kushal>	yup
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[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:18:34] <kushal>	*you* tooo
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:18:39] <kushal>	gja, :)
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:18:47] <gja>	:D
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:18:47] <jose_manimala>	crappy gprs
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:19:26] <gja>	fine then, we'll have a huge
meeting of ambassadors at FOSS.in this year
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:19:30] <gja>	all indian ambassadors
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:19:43] <jose_manimala>	ok
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:19:44] <techbugs>	sounds good
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:20:05] <jose_manimala>	what is FOSS.In
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:20:31] <kushal>	cool
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:20:37] <jose_manimala>	*short forms confuse me!!*
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:20:48] <kushal>	jose_manimala, it is not a short form
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:20:56] <vignesh>	its an event
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:21:06] <jose_manimala>	ok
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:21:09] <vignesh>	and the website
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:21:12] <kushal>	jose_manimala, type that in your browser
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:21:26] <jose_manimala>	cool
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:21:38] <jose_manimala>	thanks
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[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:22:17] <jose_manimala>	i think this will be a
great place to meet up
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:23:25] <jose_manimala>	ok then that is finalised right?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:23:48] <gja>	yeah, but we'll be doing a lot more
then just `meeting up` :D
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:23:56] <vignesh>	heh :)
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:24:17] <jose_manimala>	is there a fedora stall at FOSS.in
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:24:46] <gja>	there was in 2005
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:24:47] <kushal>	jose_manimala, you are welcome to give one
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:24:51] <gja>	i'm not sure about 2006 though
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:25:02] <kushal>	gja, 2006 , no
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:25:03] <gja>	there better be one at 2007
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:25:22] <kushal>	gja, Max may come
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:25:30] <gja>	I heard :D
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:25:34] <jose_manimala>	that might be a great
idea but i am stuck in cochin..... i would love to help out....
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:26:00] <vignesh>	I am in Chennai too.. don`t
even know if I`ll make it to foss.in this year
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:26:26] <vignesh>	what `s the date of the event ?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:26:38] <jose_manimala>	i am a bangalorean but i
am stuck in cochin..... but i'll make it even if i have my exams
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:26:39] <kushal>	end of nov or start of Dec
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:26:44] <gja>	it's not been publicly announced
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:26:53] <vignesh>	oh..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:26:54] <vignesh>	ok
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:26:56] <jose_manimala>	yeah the sites blank
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:27:02] <vignesh>	yup
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:27:24] <gja>	jose_manimala: when would you have exams?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:27:48] <jose_manimala>	around december but thats
not a problem i'll be there
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:27:58] <gja>	cool :D
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:28:53] <jose_manimala>	guys so its fixed then
FOSS.in every year.... maybe we can get a stall up.... can we discuss
the details in the next meeting
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:29:13] <kushal>	yes
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:29:22] <vignesh>	sure
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:29:34] <kushal>	next point:
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:29:35] <techbugs>	well have regular meetings ...
i think better coordination will make good head count at the event
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:29:36] <kushal>	3. Support for free media program (INDIA)
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:29:50] <jose_manimala>	i would like to turn our
attention to techbugs who is helping out with the free media program
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:29:53] <techbugs>	:)
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:30:08] <jose_manimala>	please tell us how things
are with you
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:30:39] <vignesh>	techbugs: oh.. your siddharth..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:30:58] <techbugs>	we are burdened with huge pend
lists for free media... i will be shipping aroung 30 this month but
that still counts nothing...
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:31:09] <techbugs>	any help will be gr8
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:31:12] <jose_manimala>	techbugs: please tell us
the current status.  how can we help you?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:31:44] <techbugs>	if all the ambassadors accept
a few requests for FC6 and F7 we can clear this
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:32:03] <jose_manimala>	yeah?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:32:55] <techbugs>	i think one DVD will cost
around 50-70 /-  to burn and ship... some contribution is needed
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:32:58] <vignesh>	I gave out 2 F7 cds.. Can I add
their names to the list ?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:33:27] <vignesh>	they emailed me.. I accepted it anyway
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:33:27] <techbugs>	yes sure... whenever you ship
or giveaway DVDs please update it on the wiki an
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:33:33] <vignesh>	ok..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:33:52] <vignesh>	plus many requests are duplicates..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:33:59] 	 * kushal can't do it (personal problem)
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[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:34:06] <vignesh>	they have similar adrs`s
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:34:46] <vignesh>	I`ll try to take care of the
chennai requests
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:34:47] <techbugs>	i didnt got time to sort them
out this month... you are welcome in this too.. lust let me know when
u update
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:34:56] <vignesh>	ok..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:35:33] <techbugs>	i'll try to fix soon ...
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:35:33] <vignesh>	fine..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:35:46] <vignesh>	but why can`t we dump fc6
requests.. now that F7 is out ?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:36:07] <vignesh>	the same people may have
requested F7 dvds too..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:36:26] <techbugs>	also it is easy to give away
local Discs i request all to check the FreeMedia list and atleast
giveaway local discs that will be very less on pocket and even you can
contact them and ask to get a Media (blank) too that way it will be
free
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:37:01] <vignesh>	Ok..
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[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:38:09] <josemathew>	dang this gprs
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:38:37] <techbugs>	this month we have F7 queue...
we canput up a regret on the wiki and dump FC6 but i am still not sure
about this... i am thinking to get it sponsored (FreeMedia India) if
we can get 2000-4000 sponsorship each month we can clewar this... any
suggestions
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:38:42] <josemathew>	ok what did i miss can
someone tell me?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:39:00] <vignesh>	yeah.. we`ll do that
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:39:05] <vignesh>	dump FC6
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:39:28] <josemathew>	yes
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:39:28] <vignesh>	How do we get sponsored ?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:40:20] <josemathew>	individual sponsors...
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:40:39] <vignesh>	and..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:40:50] <techbugs>	by asking some profit making
institutions to sponsor it.. individual we already have a notice on
the wiki
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:40:53] <josemathew>	techbugs: how can we help
get it sponsored
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:41:14] <josemathew>	ok
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:41:15] <vignesh>	techbugs: ok..we can do that
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:42:22] <josemathew>	how much INR are we looking at
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:42:31] <vignesh>	2000 - 4000 pm
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:42:37] <techbugs>	yes
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:42:47] <josemathew>	ok
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:43:21] <vignesh>	techbugs: has any one sponsered before ?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:43:53] <josemathew>	do we have a letter or
something to show as proof?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:44:39] <gja>	2000 - 4000 is enough for 40 - 80 DVDs right?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:44:46] <techbugs>	we can send digital signatures
and fedora ambassador visiting card along as proof...
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:45:04] <techbugs>	yes... that should be good for a month
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:45:36] <josemathew>	ok, this needs to be a major
point of focus for us,..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:45:37] <vignesh>	I get dvd`s for 10 bucks at my place...
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:45:58] <vignesh>	what about sending Fedora-live cd`s
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:46:07] <techbugs>	i think cost varies b/w 10-25 at places
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:46:12] <josemathew>	are they good?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:46:16] <vignesh>	yeah
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:46:33] <techbugs>	we cant send live CDs to ppl
who requested for DVD
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:46:57] <vignesh>	we can ask them what they
prefer and send it
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:46:58] <techbugs>	in coming months we'll have CD
option too in the request form only then
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:47:06] <vignesh>	oh..ok fine
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:47:13] <techbugs>	yes asking them in advance is okj
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:47:15] <josemathew>	yes that is a point, we need
to find a sponsor and fast.......
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:48:24] <techbugs>	i thionk we can take it as a
task and  in the next meeting discuss about progress
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:48:38] <vignesh>	ok..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:49:03] <josemathew>	yes..... i am looking at
companies with linux focus.....
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:49:23] <techbugs>	yes that should be prime...
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:50:12] <techbugs>	so i think we can wrap this
topic for today...
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:50:18] <vignesh>	yeah.. ok
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:50:29] <techbugs>	what we have next..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:50:31] <vignesh>	any thing else we need to discuss today ?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:51:17] <josemathew>	beryl.... i got a potato as reply!!
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:51:24] <gja>	beryl rocks :D
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:51:31] <gja>	I just got mplayer working with beryl
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:51:38] <gja>	it used to give me a black screen
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:51:51] <gja>	and use kplayer, it is the best
mplayer front end ever
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:52:05] <gja>	WITH support for K I/OSlaves, so
you can watch movies over samba
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:52:07] <kushal>	josemathew, that was question to
you , you never replied
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:52:52] <josemathew>	and i have never used beryl
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:52:59] <josemathew>	well i have eaten potatoes
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:53:03] <gja>	you havent?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:53:13] <gja>	dude, it's so freaking easy to use
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:53:19] <josemathew>	read my lips NEver
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:53:26] <gja>	and compiz is even default in F7
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:53:37] <techbugs>	should try ...  just yum
install beryl and u r up
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:53:48] <josemathew>	ok....
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:53:59] <josemathew>	but i wanted to know how it
compares to vista
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:54:10] <gja>	it's faster
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:54:11] <josemathew>	i mean the eye candy on
vista is too much
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:54:20] <gja>	all the effects from vista is there in beryl
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:54:23] <techbugs>	agilx and xgl ... hehe vista
is no match for linux now
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:54:33] <gja>	window previews... it's there in beryl
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:54:40] <gja>	win-tab to cycle windows, it's there
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:54:48] <gja>	and you can make it rain on your desktop
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:54:48] <josemathew>	isnt agxil compiled into FC6
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:55:12] <josemathew>	i saw the flame effects on
beryl and was really dumb struck
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:55:18] <vignesh>	ok.. I`m off.. cya at the next meeting
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:55:38] <vignesh>	aiglx is in the hardware not software
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:55:47] <josemathew>	thanks for your time see you
for the next meeting
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:55:48] <techbugs>	r we final at the time... 1800 wed
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:55:54] <gja>	ok, sure
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:56:11] <techbugs>	btw aiglx is software
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:56:14] <josemathew>	yeah and i think its rockin so far
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:56:14] <vignesh>	techbugs: I can come only after 21:00
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:56:35] <josemathew>	the time is still a problem
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:56:36] <vignesh>	techbugs: really ? I thought it
was h/w driven
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:56:53] <vignesh>	I come back home only 20:30
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:57:05] <josemathew>	vignesh: aglix i what makes
fedora windows bounce around
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:57:17] <vignesh>	josemathew: I know that :)
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:57:26] <gja>	ok, everyone stop
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:57:32] <gja>	we need to set a hard time to mee
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:57:34] <gja>	meet
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:57:44] <gja>	if vignesh can't make it at 1800
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:57:45] <vignesh>	ok.. initimate the time in the
mailing lists..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:57:52] <gja>	should we make it later?
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:58:10] <gja>	check what times mether, and sm|CPU
are avaliable
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:58:12] <techbugs>	we need to decide then... on
the mailing list we'll discuss about the time then...
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:58:16] <vignesh>	or you guys have the meeting at
18:00 I`ll catch up at 21:00
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:58:24] <vignesh>	yeah sure..
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:58:27] <vignesh>	bye all
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:58:34] <techbugs>	bye
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:58:40] Part	vignesh has left this channel.
[Wed Jun 13 2007] [21:58:46] <gja>	bye all

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Rajagiri School Of Engineering And Technology
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[Thomas Chung]

On 6/14/07, jose manimala <josemm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  The meeting held on the #Fedora-India Irc channel on
> irc.freenode.net
>  Date: (June 13th 2007)
>  Time: 2100 IST
>  Participants:
>  -> JoseManimala (<jose_manimala>)
>  -> SiddharthUpmanyu (<techbugs>)
>  -> TejasDinkar (<gja>)
>  -> KushalDas (<kushal>)
>  -> Vignesh (vignesh)
>
>  *** Logfile started 
Hi Jose,
In the future, pleas post a summary and IRC log in the wiki and
announce the page via the list. This is much easier for us to read and
used for News Project.
Regards,

-- 
Thomas Chung
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung