Spreading Fedora

[Frank Murphy]

Hi All,

My name's Frank (I'm from Ireland)
most people call me a pest.

I would like to bring an initiative of 'Ankur Sinha',
to your attention, for people looking for fedora
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LocalContacts

Before I get sssshhhed,
For those of you who don't mind being contacted
by people. It is a good way to spread Fedora,
by it's physical medium.

Pleas, all I ask is go ahead and read.

For those who have some spare money and time, there is always:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/Freemedia/Join_freemedia

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/ambassador


-- 
Regards,
Frank 
www.frankly3d.com

[Marcel Ribeiro Dantas]

2013/9/22 Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  Hi All,
>  
Hi Frank,


>  I would like to bring an initiative of 'Ankur Sinha',
>  to your attention, for people looking for fedora
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LocalContacts
>  
I'm not sure if I really understood the goal of the initiative.
Is it just like Freemedia but people would send/hand over a blank media
instead of expecting us to buy one?

At first I thought it'd be more like people coming with a blank dvd, we
would burn it and help them to install Fedora, but no.. Now it seems it's
more like Freemedia but avoiding us to spend money.

Greetings,

-- 
Marcel Ribeiro Dantas,
Biomedical Engineering Researcher at LAIS
Laboratory for Technological Innovation in Healthcare (LAIS-HUOL)

http://mribeirodantas.fedorapeople.org
mribeirodantas at fedoraproject.org
mribeirodantas at lais.huol.ufrn.br

GNU/Linux User nro. #440985

[Frank Murphy]

On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 16:56:05 -0200
Marcel Ribeiro Dantas <ribeirodantasdm(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  2013/9/22 Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  
>  > Hi All,
>  >
>  Hi Frank,
>  
>  
>  > I would like to bring an initiative of 'Ankur Sinha',
>  > to your attention, for people looking for fedora
>  > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LocalContacts
>  >
>  I'm not sure if I really understood the goal of the initiative. 
To help get Fedora on Machines.

>  Is it just like Freemedia but people would send/hand over a blank
>  media instead of expecting us to buy one? 
That would cover it.

>  
>  At first I thought it'd be more like people coming with a blank
>  dvd, we would burn it and help them to install Fedora,  
They may not need help to install

but no.. Now
>  it seems it's more like Freemedia but avoiding us to spend
> money.
>  
>  Greetings,
>   
but may need help to get, that maybe cheaper than on-line purchase.

Is it to be only helpful, when to say, see what I can do.


-- 
Regards,
Frank 
www.frankly3d.com

[Marcel Ribeiro Dantas]

Oh, thank you Frank.

Enviado do meu Android.
Em 22/09/2013 18:52, "Frank Murphy" <frankly3d(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu:

>  On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 16:56:05 -0200
>  Marcel Ribeiro Dantas <ribeirodantasdm(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
>  > 2013/9/22 Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  >
>  > > Hi All,
>  > >
>  > Hi Frank,
>  >
>  >
>  > > I would like to bring an initiative of 'Ankur Sinha',
>  > > to your attention, for people looking for fedora
>  > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LocalContacts
>  > >
>  > I'm not sure if I really understood the goal of the initiative.
>
>  To help get Fedora on Machines.
>
>  > Is it just like Freemedia but people would send/hand over a blank
>  > media instead of expecting us to buy one?
>
>  That would cover it.
>
>  >
>  > At first I thought it'd be more like people coming with a blank
>  > dvd, we would burn it and help them to install Fedora,
>
>  They may not need help to install
>
>  but no.. Now
>  > it seems it's more like Freemedia but avoiding us to spend money.
>  >
>  > Greetings,
>  >
>  but may need help to get, that maybe cheaper than on-line purchase.
>
>  Is it to be only helpful, when to say, see what I can do.
>
>
>  --
>  Regards,
>  Frank
>  www.frankly3d.com
>
>  --
>  ambassadors mailing list
>  ambassadors(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors

[Jiri Eischmann]

Frank Murphy píše v Ne 22. 09. 2013 v 22:52 +0100:
>  On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 16:56:05 -0200
>  Marcel Ribeiro Dantas <ribeirodantasdm(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > 2013/9/22 Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  > 
>  > > Hi All,
>  > >
>  > Hi Frank,
>  > 
>  > 
>  > > I would like to bring an initiative of 'Ankur Sinha',
>  > > to your attention, for people looking for fedora
>  > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LocalContacts
>  > >
>  > I'm not sure if I really understood the goal of the initiative.
>  
>  To help get Fedora on Machines. 
If it's more than just burning a DVD for someone it definitely makes
more sense. While I understand that a DVD is still the most popular and
sometimes the only way to spread free software in some areas, I don't
see such high demand for DVDs in Europe any more. You can download
Fedora image with the average European Internet connection within
minutes and buy media (either DVDs or flash drives) cheaply in the
nearest store.
But if the initiative means "hey, I can burn Fedora on a DVD (or load on
any other storage) and then help you install it on your computer", then
I'm all for it because that's where people still need help.

Jiri 

>  > Is it just like Freemedia but people would send/hand over a
> blank
>  > media instead of expecting us to buy one?
>  
>  That would cover it.
>  
>  > 
>  > At first I thought it'd be more like people coming with a blank
>  > dvd, we would burn it and help them to install Fedora, 
>  
>  They may not need help to install
>  
>  but no.. Now
>  > it seems it's more like Freemedia but avoiding us to spend money.
>  > 
>  > Greetings,
>  > 
>  but may need help to get, that maybe cheaper than on-line purchase.
>  
>  Is it to be only helpful, when to say, see what I can do.
>  
>

[Frank Murphy]

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:50:27 +0200
Jiri Eischmann <eischmann(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  Frank Murphy píše v Ne 22. 09. 2013 v 22:52 +0100:
>  > On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 16:56:05 -0200
>  > Marcel Ribeiro Dantas <ribeirodantasdm(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > 
>  > > 2013/9/22 Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  > > 
>  > > > Hi All,
>  > > >
>  > > Hi Frank,
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > > I would like to bring an initiative of 'Ankur Sinha',
>  > > > to your attention, for people looking for fedora
>  > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LocalContacts
>  > > >
>  > > I'm not sure if I really understood the goal of the initiative.
>  > 
>  > To help get Fedora on Machines.
>  
>  If it's more than just burning a DVD for someone it definitely makes
>  more sense. While I understand that a DVD is still the most popular
>  and sometimes the only way to spread free software in some areas, I
>  don't see such high demand for DVDs in Europe any more. 

Aside: Freemedia still gets approx. 20\30 requests per month.
Including uk,frank,germany,italy, 
Maybe the Ambassadors need to talk to more people outside,
the event\arena?

ie. The ones that are looking for the DVD

 You can
>  download Fedora image with the average European Internet connection
>  within minutes and buy media (either DVDs or flash drives) cheaply
>  in the nearest store. 
There is always a fish doesn't know know to get caught in the net.

>  But if the initiative means "hey, I can burn Fedora on a DVD
> (or
>  load on any other storage) and then help you install it on your
>  computer", then I'm all for it because that's where people still
>  need help.
>   
Is not the person who can install himself, and only need the disk,
maybe the more promising future asset for Fedora?

-- 
Regards,
Frank 
www.frankly3d.com

[Jiri Eischmann]

Frank Murphy píše v Po 23. 09. 2013 v 10:57 +0100:
>  On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:50:27 +0200
>  Jiri Eischmann <eischmann(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > Frank Murphy píše v Ne 22. 09. 2013 v 22:52 +0100:
>  > > On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 16:56:05 -0200
>  > > Marcel Ribeiro Dantas <ribeirodantasdm(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > > 
>  > > > 2013/9/22 Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  > > > 
>  > > > > Hi All,
>  > > > >
>  > > > Hi Frank,
>  > > > 
>  > > > 
>  > > > > I would like to bring an initiative of 'Ankur Sinha',
>  > > > > to your attention, for people looking for fedora
>  > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LocalContacts
>  > > > >
>  > > > I'm not sure if I really understood the goal of the initiative.
>  > > 
>  > > To help get Fedora on Machines.
>  > 
>  > If it's more than just burning a DVD for someone it definitely makes
>  > more sense. While I understand that a DVD is still the most popular
>  > and sometimes the only way to spread free software in some areas, I
>  > don't see such high demand for DVDs in Europe any more.
>  
>  
>  Aside: Freemedia still gets approx. 20\30 requests per month.
>  Including uk,frank,germany,italy, 
>  Maybe the Ambassadors need to talk to more people outside,
>  the event\arena? 
Well, I'm not saying that the demand is zero, I'm saying it's small and
it's declining (btw I distribute around 10,000 DVDs in EMEA every year,
so I have some insight).
Don't get me wrong, the free media program has been and still is
important, but the world is changing. Many new laptops don't even have
DVD drives any more. Media are cheap and ubiquitous and Internet
connections are fast enough to download several GB in one hour.
All I want to say is that maybe we should start thinking about how to
move the program forward and adjust it to changes in the world and focus
more on helping users install Fedora than on physical distribution
itself.
For example, here in the Czech Republic, we have install.linux.cz
initiative which lists people who can help you install or largely deploy
Linux either for money or on volunteering basis. 

JE 

>  ie. The ones that are looking for the DVD
>  
>   You can
>  > download Fedora image with the average European Internet connection
>  > within minutes and buy media (either DVDs or flash drives) cheaply
>  > in the nearest store.
>  
>  There is always a fish doesn't know know to get caught in the net.
>  
>  > But if the initiative means "hey, I can burn Fedora on a DVD (or
>  > load on any other storage) and then help you install it on your
>  > computer", then I'm all for it because that's where people still
>  > need help.
>  > 
>  
>  Is not the person who can install himself, and only need the disk,
>  maybe the more promising future asset for Fedora?
>

[Frank Murphy]

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:15:20 +0200
Jiri Eischmann <eischmann(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  > Aside: Freemedia still gets approx. 20\30 requests per month.
>  > Including uk,frank,germany,italy, 
>  > Maybe the Ambassadors need to talk to more people outside,
>  > the event\arena?
>  
>  Well, I'm not saying that the demand is zero, I'm saying it's small
>  and it's declining (btw I distribute around 10,000 DVDs in EMEA
>  every year, so I have some insight). 
Therefore it may not cause harm, to give one or two more from your
own kindness, to those who cannot attend an event.

>  Don't get me wrong, the free media program has been and still is
>  important, but the world is changing. Many new laptops don't even
>  have DVD drives any more.  
 Media are cheap and ubiquitous and
>  Internet connections are fast enough to download several GB in one
>  hour.  
But, cannot be applied to each and all, even in G7 countries.

>  All I want to say is that maybe we should start thinking
>  about how to move the program forward and adjust it to changes in
>  the world and focus more on helping users install Fedora than on
>  physical distribution itself. 
There are changes in the world, but a rising tide, 
does not lift all boats. 

If they can install themselves, they are more ripe to help Fedora
Which is the reason to give out any form of media\dl\etc..

>  For example, here in the Czech Republic, we have install.linux.cz
>  initiative which lists people who can help you install or largely
>  deploy Linux either for money or on volunteering basis. 
>   
Are they not allowed to install themselves, 
if you give them the means.

-- 
Regards,
Frank 
www.frankly3d.com

[Ankur Sinha]

On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 16:56 -0200, Marcel Ribeiro Dantas wrote:
>  At first I thought it'd be more like people coming with a blank
> dvd,
>  we would burn it and help them to install Fedora, but no.. Now it
>  seems it's more like Freemedia but avoiding us to spend money. 
It isn't free media if we don't spend money ;)

The ideal way would be for a requester to physically meet a local
contact and get media burnt, but when it's not possible, mailing a blank
media with a return envelope is OK too. 

PS: The only reason local contacts was set up was because not all
ambassadors like to receive mails with media requests. Now, they can be
redirected to this page so they get in touch with ambassadors that don't
mind getting said mails. 
-- 
Thanks,
Warm regards,
Ankur (FranciscoD)

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha

Join Fedora! Come talk to us!
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG

[Marcel Ribeiro Dantas]

Oh, it's clear now.

Thank you Ankur :)


2013/9/22 Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 16:56 -0200, Marcel Ribeiro Dantas wrote:
>  > At first I thought it'd be more like people coming with a blank dvd,
>  > we would burn it and help them to install Fedora, but no.. Now it
>  > seems it's more like Freemedia but avoiding us to spend money.
>
>  It isn't free media if we don't spend money ;)
>
>  The ideal way would be for a requester to physically meet a local
>  contact and get media burnt, but when it's not possible, mailing a blank
>  media with a return envelope is OK too.
>
>  PS: The only reason local contacts was set up was because not all
>  ambassadors like to receive mails with media requests. Now, they can be
>  redirected to this page so they get in touch with ambassadors that don't
>  mind getting said mails.
>  --
>  Thanks,
>  Warm regards,
>  Ankur (FranciscoD)
>
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
>
>  Join Fedora! Come talk to us!
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG
>
>
>  --
>  ambassadors mailing list
>  ambassadors(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
>  


-- 
Marcel Ribeiro Dantas,
Biomedical Engineering Researcher at LAIS
Laboratory for Technological Innovation in Healthcare (LAIS-HUOL)

http://mribeirodantas.fedorapeople.org
mribeirodantas at fedoraproject.org
mribeirodantas at lais.huol.ufrn.br

GNU/Linux User nro. #440985

[Frank Murphy]

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:05:05 +1000
Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  
>  PS: The only reason local contacts was set up was because not all
>  ambassadors like to receive mails with media requests. Now, they
>  can be redirected to this page so they get in touch with
>  ambassadors that don't mind getting said mails.  
But I hope that those Ambassadors "who don't like getting mails",
will be polite and direct the person to xyz to help them get it.

The Ambassador is the public face of Fedora, even in private.

-- 
Regards,
Frank 
www.frankly3d.com