For German speaking Ambassadors

[Robert M. Albrecht]

Hi,

I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into buildung RPMs) 
and would be glad, if someone would review my slides.

www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf
www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp

Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ?

Thanks.

cu romal

www.romal.de
blog.romal.de

[Luca Foppiano]

On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:56 +0200, Robert M. Albrecht wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into buildung RPMs) 
>  and would be glad, if someone would review my slides.
>  
>  www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf
>  www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp
>  
>  Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ? 
I don't know German, as far as I understand it seems good :)
I love photos used to change topic. :)

After linuxtag, can you provide also a English version?  ;-)

Luca
-- 
Today is Sweetmorn, the 68th day of Discord in the YOLD 3174

Fear is the greatest salesman.
		-- Robert Klein

[Robert M. Albrecht]

Hi,

a quick translation, may be bad english, but should be readable:

http://www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.pdf
http://www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.odp

cu romal

www.romal.de
blog.romal.de


Luca Foppiano schrieb:
>  On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:56 +0200, Robert M. Albrecht wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into buildung RPMs) 
> > and would be glad, if someone would review my slides.
> >
> > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf
> > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp
> >
> > Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ?
>  
>  I don't know German, as far as I understand it seems good :)
>  I love photos used to change topic. :)
>  
>  After linuxtag, can you provide also a English version?  ;-)
>  
>  Luca

Linuxtag slides: now in english & german

[Robert M. Albrecht]

Hi,

sorry, I forgot to change the subject, so non-german speakers could miss them.

cu romal

www.romal.de
blog.romal.de


Robert M. Albrecht schrieb:
>  Hi,
>  
>  a quick translation, may be bad english, but should be readable:
>  
>  http://www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.pdf
>  http://www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.odp
>  
>  cu romal
>  
>  www.romal.de
>  blog.romal.de
>  
>  
>  Luca Foppiano schrieb:
> > On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:56 +0200, Robert M. Albrecht wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into buildung 
> >> RPMs) and would be glad, if someone would review my slides.
> >>
> >> www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf
> >> www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp
> >>
> >> Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ?
> >
> > I don't know German, as far as I understand it seems good :)
> > I love photos used to change topic. :)
> >
> > After linuxtag, can you provide also a English version?  ;-)
> >
> > Luca
>  
>  -- 
>  Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
>  Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com
>  https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

Linuxtag slides: now in english & german

[Robert M. Albrecht]

Hi,

thanks for the feedback.

Version 2 is online, including the english translation.

www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.pdf
www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.odp
www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf
www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp

More suggestions ?

cu romal

www.romal.de
blog.romal.de


Robert M. Albrecht schrieb:
>  Hi,
>  
>  sorry, I forgot to change the subject, so non-german speakers could miss 
>  them.
>  
>  cu romal
>  
>  www.romal.de
>  blog.romal.de
>  
>  
>  Robert M. Albrecht schrieb:
> > Hi,
> >
> > a quick translation, may be bad english, but should be readable:
> >
> > http://www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.pdf
> > http://www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.odp
> >
> > cu romal
> >
> > www.romal.de
> > blog.romal.de
> >
> >
> > Luca Foppiano schrieb:
> >> On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:56 +0200, Robert M. Albrecht wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into 
> >>> buildung RPMs) and would be glad, if someone would review my slides.
> >>>
> >>> www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf
> >>> www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp
> >>>
> >>> Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ?
> >>
> >> I don't know German, as far as I understand it seems good :)
> >> I love photos used to change topic. :)
> >>
> >> After linuxtag, can you provide also a English version?  ;-)
> >>
> >> Luca
> >
> > -- 
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>  
>  -- 
>  Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
>  Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com
>  https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

Linuxtag slides: now in english & german

[Luca Foppiano]

On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 22:40 +0200, Robert M. Albrecht wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  thanks for the feedback.
>  
>  Version 2 is online, including the english translation.
>  
>  www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.pdf
>  www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.odp
>  www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf
>  www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp
>  
>  More suggestions ? 
Just a few short things on translation:
* slide 7 "Don 't build packets als Root !" -> "Don't build
packets as
root!"
* slide 13 "Hot to install ?" -> "How to install ?"
* slide 18 "If rpmlint finds any problems, they must be repaired." ->
"If rpmlint finds any problems, you should fix it."

Your presentation is IMHO really good...
I love your template ;-)

Luca

-- 
Today is Sweetmorn, the 68th day of Discord in the YOLD 3174

As a goatherd learns his trade by goat, so a writer learns his trade by wrote.

Linuxtag slides: now in english & german

[Jesse Keating]

On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 22:54 +0200, Luca Foppiano wrote:
>  * slide 7 "Don 't build packets als Root !" ->
> "Don't build packets as
>  root!" 
Wouldn't this be "packages" not "packets" ?

-- 
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!

Linuxtag slides: now in english & german

[Luca Foppiano]

On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:01 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
>  On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 22:54 +0200, Luca Foppiano wrote:
>  > * slide 7 "Don 't build packets als Root !" -> "Don't
> build packets as
>  > root!"
>  
>  Wouldn't this be "packages" not "packets" ? 
yes, is better "packages" :) in my reply I want to correct "als" with
"as" ;-)

Luca
-- 
Today is Sweetmorn, the 68th day of Discord in the YOLD 3174

I don't wish to appear overly inquisitive, but are you still alive?

Linuxtag slides: now in english & german

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Mittwoch, den 21.05.2008, 22:40 +0200 schrieb Robert M. Albrecht:
>  Hi,
>  
>  thanks for the feedback.
>  
>  Version 2 is online, including the english translation.
>  
>  www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.pdf
>  www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.odp
>  www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf
>  www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp
>  
>  More suggestions ? 
Looks like you took all my suggestions into account, thanks. One last
thing:

Slide 15: You are hardcoding the prefix /usr in the install section.
Instead of

%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/bin
mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/share/doc/%{name}-%{version}
mkdir $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc
cp -p usb_modeswitch $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/bin
cp -p usb_modeswitch.conf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc
%doc README* COPYING

I suggest:

%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_bindir}
mkdir $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_sysconfdir}
install -p -m 755 usb_modeswitch $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_bindir}/
install -p -m 644 usb_modeswitch.conf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_sysconfdir}/

I'm also using 'install' instead of 'cp' to make sure permissions are
correct. No need for "%doc README* COPYING" in %install, this belongs
into the %files section where it needs to replace the empty %doc
statement. RPM will care about creating the docdir and installing the
docs.

>  cu romal
>   
C U @ Berlin

Christoph

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Mittwoch, den 21.05.2008, 17:56 +0200 schrieb Robert M. Albrecht:
>  Hi,
>  
>  I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into buildung RPMs) 
>  and would be glad, if someone would review my slides.
>  
>  www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf
>  www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp
>  
>  Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ? 
Slide 8: Not sure if "cp -a /usr/src/redhat/ rpmbuild" is a good idea.
What if there are already files in /usr/src/redhat? I suggest using
rpmdev-setuptree. Also you should mention redhat-rpm-config and
rpmdevtools packages.

Slide 15: Instead of
        cp README* $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/share/doc/%{name}-%{version}
        cp COPYING $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/share/doc/%{name}-%{version}
you should simply use 
        %doc README* COPYING

And if you use "cp", you should use it with the -p switch to preserve
timestamps and avoid multilib fun.

Slide 19: You should also mention "rpmbuild -ba".

Sile 26: No need to wait for a new release, you can also get your
package into a release as an update.

>  Thanks. 
The rest of the presentation looks good to me. Well done!
>  
>  cu romal 
Christoph