Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world.
From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions,
when we do the Q4 budget calculations.
An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
Thanks, Max
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com wrote:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
I'm horrible taking pictures too but maybe these look a little closer to what they really look like ...
http://inode0.fedorapeople.org/swag/fedora-case-badges.jpg
John
Could we get the source of such stickers? I mean a .jpg or so, so that we can print them for ourself's.
Gaurav Live
Layman Linux
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com wrote:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
I'm horrible taking pictures too but maybe these look a little closer to what they really look like ...
http://inode0.fedorapeople.org/swag/fedora-case-badges.jpg
John
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On Tue 1 December 2009 10:46:58 pm Gaurav Prabhu wrote:
Could we get the source of such stickers? I mean a .jpg or so, so that we can print them for ourself's.
Gaurav Live
Layman Linux
(from experience) Printing them by hand is a bad idea. If standard ink is used, the badges wear over time, leaving you with a white sticker eventually. This is especially true with laptop case badges, where they usually go on the palm-rest area of the laptop, where the user's hands constantly rub on it... : ( I've had that happen, even with Cafepress printed stickers. You really have to get badges like these special (I assume they are; if not, the quality of them is probably a concern)
Ryan
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com wrote: <snip>
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
As one of the folks in LATAM, I have to say that they look beautiful ( I know how hard it is to take picture of shiny objects) and I certainly will love to be able to share some of them in any Fedora event.
Ooh ! they look beautiful ... we will need some of them in any event in Egypt , we are preparing for this now.
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:25:11 -0600 Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD From: nacross@gmail.com To: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com wrote:
<snip> > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have > use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? >
As one of the folks in LATAM, I have to say that they look beautiful ( I know how hard it is to take picture of shiny objects) and I certainly will love to be able to share some of them in any Fedora event.
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com wrote:
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
I'd say yes.
Yes, I think they will look nice and people will like them. They will be nice to have them on events.
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 09:57 +0530, sankarshan wrote:
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com wrote:
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
I'd say yes.
(2009年12月02日 14:16), Max Spevack wrote:
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world.
I am very interested on the volume of the badges to be produced. It should be highly demanded by every Fedora user!
Regards, kaio
----- "Caius 'kaio' Chance" k@kaio.me wrote:
(2009年12月02日 14:16), Max Spevack wrote:
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the
most
sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world.
I am very interested on the volume of the badges to be produced. It should be highly demanded by every Fedora user!
Yes, it's good for Fedora users and developers around the world. I can simple print myself, but the print quality is surely not good as.
Kind regards, Tuan
I also want a badge...then only it reflects professionalism ....
On 12/2/09, Truong Anh. Tuan tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote:
----- "Caius 'kaio' Chance" k@kaio.me wrote:
(2009年12月02日 14:16), Max Spevack wrote:
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the
most
sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world.
I am very interested on the volume of the badges to be produced. It should be highly demanded by every Fedora user!
Yes, it's good for Fedora users and developers around the world. I can simple print myself, but the print quality is surely not good as.
Kind regards, Tuan
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On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 12:38 +0530, SAJI S wrote:
I also want a badge...then only it reflects professionalism ....
On 12/2/09, Truong Anh. Tuan tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote:
----- "Caius 'kaio' Chance" <k@kaio.me> wrote: > (2009年12月02日 14:16), Max Spevack wrote: > > Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the > most > > sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and > > shipping them to key folks around the world. > > > > I am very interested on the volume of the badges to be produced. It > should be highly demanded by every Fedora user! > Yes, it's good for Fedora users and developers around the world. I can simple print myself, but the print quality is surely not good as. Kind regards, Tuan I would also be interested in getting a badge. -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
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Jep, these would be great.
We do systems installation (including OS installations) and it would be great idea to put one sticker in every computer what we have installed with Fedora...
JP
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 23:16 -0500, Max Spevack wrote:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world.
From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions,
when we do the Q4 budget calculations.
An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
Thanks, Max
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Hy,
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
Definitly YES. I would tag all our servers and workstations with them and on events it would look really cool on the netbook / notebook.
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com wrote:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
For some reason, I can't view the badges but going by what I saw on Mel's notebook last time she was here, they should be great!
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world.
From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions,
when we do the Q4 budget calculations.
An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
Thanks, Max
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I think it would be great to have these is similar version as pinnable badges. Stickers are great, but I think pins are more attractive if some shine catches the eyes.
What do you think guys?
2009/12/2 Heherson Pagcaliwagan herson@azneita.org
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com wrote:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg
For some reason, I can't view the badges but going by what I saw on Mel's notebook last time she was here, they should be great!
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What
looks
gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most
sense
to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them
to
key folks around the world.
From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions,
when we do the Q4 budget calculations.
An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia
have
use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
Thanks, Max
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On 02/12/09 08:28, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
I think it would be great to have these is similar version as pinnable badges. Stickers are great, but I think pins are more attractive if some shine catches the eyes.
Hard to put one on a laptop\case
--snip--
On behalf of EMEA Meeting we would be definitely interested in such swag :) I guess we will discuss it further on today's meeting.
~pierros
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankly3d@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/12/09 08:28, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
I think it would be great to have these is similar version as pinnable badges. Stickers are great, but I think pins are more attractive if some shine catches the eyes.
Hard to put one on a laptop\case
--snip--
Regards,
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The stickers are very beautiful.
Regards, Arthur
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:46, Pierros Papadeas ppapadeas@gmail.com wrote:
On behalf of EMEA Meeting we would be definitely interested in such swag :) I guess we will discuss it further on today's meeting.
~pierros
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankly3d@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/12/09 08:28, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
I think it would be great to have these is similar version as pinnable badges. Stickers are great, but I think pins are more attractive if some shine catches the eyes.
Hard to put one on a laptop\case
--snip--
Regards,
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Hello,
can we have a couple for the FOSDEM 2010 in Brussel? Would be cool. :D Looking forward to badge my case.
regards, Sascha
2009/12/2 Arthur Buliva arthurbuliva@fedoraproject.org:
The stickers are very beautiful.
Regards, Arthur
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:46, Pierros Papadeas ppapadeas@gmail.com wrote:
On behalf of EMEA Meeting we would be definitely interested in such swag :) I guess we will discuss it further on today's meeting.
~pierros
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) frankly3d@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/12/09 08:28, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
I think it would be great to have these is similar version as pinnable badges. Stickers are great, but I think pins are more attractive if some shine catches the eyes.
Hard to put one on a laptop\case
--snip--
Regards,
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I think case badges are much more appealing to people over pin-able badges/buttons.
When people slap a badge on their laptop, wherever they go with it (campus, work, LAN parties), they'll have it there, so it would work as advertisement in that sense as well; whereas a pin-able badge has a much less likely chance of being worn to these places.
All in all, it's not a bad idea, especially for use at events. I just think case badges are more appealing to people.
-Andrew Dahl
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com wrote:
I think it would be great to have these is similar version as pinnable badges. Stickers are great, but I think pins are more attractive if some shine catches the eyes.
What do you think guys?
2009/12/2 Heherson Pagcaliwagan herson@azneita.org
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com wrote:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
For some reason, I can't view the badges but going by what I saw on Mel's notebook last time she was here, they should be great!
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world.
From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions,
when we do the Q4 budget calculations.
An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
Thanks, Max
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2009/12/2 Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
What's the size in mm or inch? A typical sticker is 2mmx3mm (I used nicu's design), is this bigger or smaller? I still have plenty of them which I printed years ago, but they start to fade, some new ones would be great.
On 02/12/09 04:16, Max Spevack wrote:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world.
From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions,
when we do the Q4 budget calculations.
An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
Thanks, Max
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Max,
I would even happily pay for some of those case badges. And as Red Hat is a bit iffy,c about people paying for stuff, because of tax reasons (or whatever). Why not order more, and at least for EMEA, if people donate a small amount, they get sent a number of free case badges.
Regards, Tristan
Hello to all.
In LATAM that help could really help a LOT. I think people who should receive that help must be:
Nicaragua - Argentina - Colombia
They could send us some to the rest of countries that truly need this and might be cheaper.
Also, if we, Fedora LATAM folks, could help doing some paypal donation so we could receive a little more, just tell us what we have to do. I think that if we al LATAM put a litte effort could get a great amount. (if each of ambassadors donate 5 us$ or 10us$... wow)
Thanks for this awesome help.
:)
2009/12/2 Tristan Santore tristan.santore@internexusconnect.net
On 02/12/09 04:16, Max Spevack wrote:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world.
From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions,
when we do the Q4 budget calculations.
An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
Thanks, Max
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Max,
I would even happily pay for some of those case badges. And as Red Hat is a bit iffy,c about people paying for stuff, because of tax reasons (or whatever). Why not order more, and at least for EMEA, if people donate a small amount, they get sent a number of free case badges.
Regards, Tristan
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On 02/12/09 13:53, María Leandro wrote:
Hello to all.
In LATAM that help could really help a LOT. I think people who should receive that help must be:
Nicaragua - Argentina - Colombia
They could send us some to the rest of countries that truly need this and might be cheaper.
Also, if we, Fedora LATAM folks, could help doing some paypal donation so we could receive a little more, just tell us what we have to do. I think that if we al LATAM put a litte effort could get a great amount. (if each of ambassadors donate 5 us$ or 10us$... wow)
Thanks for this awesome help.
:)
2009/12/2 Tristan Santore <tristan.santore@internexusconnect.net mailto:tristan.santore@internexusconnect.net>
On 02/12/09 04:16, Max Spevack wrote: Hi all, In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this: http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world. >From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, when we do the Q4 budget calculations. An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? Thanks, Max -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com <mailto:Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Max, I would even happily pay for some of those case badges. And as Red Hat is a bit iffy,c about people paying for stuff, because of tax reasons (or whatever). Why not order more, and at least for EMEA, if people donate a small amount, they get sent a number of free case badges. Regards, Tristan -- Tristan Santore BSc MBCS TS4523-RIPE Network and Infrastructure Operations InterNexusConnect Mobile +44-78-55069812 Tristan.Santore@internexusconnect.net <mailto:Tristan.Santore@internexusconnect.net> Thawte Notary For Fedora related issues, please email me at: TSantore@fedoraproject.org <mailto:TSantore@fedoraproject.org> -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com <mailto:Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
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Maria,
we all had those ideas for FEDORA EMEA, legally a club, but then Red Hat says, it could appear to US tax authorities, who have no jurisdiction in Germany (as the club is based there), that this is an official Red Hat entity, so then it was kind of implied we would have to change it's name. Then about selling stuff, they don't want to sell goods, I guess it is too much hassle for them. And we as the community cant make much of a fuss, as they donate thousands! And the Fedora board has to grant the privilege to make and sell goods, which for Fedora EMEA, they did (apparently). It is all a bit of a pain in the back side. You might find some discussions with regards to this all, in the meetings logs of the EMEA meetings. All I can say is, this is frustrating for everyone. I sent this message just to you, just so you know, what went on before. So brace yourself for problems, if you want to pursue this topic further. I personally hope you will, maybe somebody at Red Hat will listen.
Good luck and all the best.
Regards, Tristan apparently
On 02/12/09 15:19, Tristan Santore wrote:
On 02/12/09 13:53, María Leandro wrote:
Hello to all.
In LATAM that help could really help a LOT. I think people who should receive that help must be:
Nicaragua - Argentina - Colombia
They could send us some to the rest of countries that truly need this and might be cheaper.
Also, if we, Fedora LATAM folks, could help doing some paypal donation so we could receive a little more, just tell us what we have to do. I think that if we al LATAM put a litte effort could get a great amount. (if each of ambassadors donate 5 us$ or 10us$... wow)
Thanks for this awesome help.
:)
2009/12/2 Tristan Santore <tristan.santore@internexusconnect.net mailto:tristan.santore@internexusconnect.net>
On 02/12/09 04:16, Max Spevack wrote: Hi all, In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this: http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world. >From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, when we do the Q4 budget calculations. An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? Thanks, Max -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com <mailto:Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Max, I would even happily pay for some of those case badges. And as Red Hat is a bit iffy,c about people paying for stuff, because of tax reasons (or whatever). Why not order more, and at least for EMEA, if people donate a small amount, they get sent a number of free case badges. Regards, Tristan -- Tristan Santore BSc MBCS TS4523-RIPE Network and Infrastructure Operations InterNexusConnect Mobile +44-78-55069812 Tristan.Santore@internexusconnect.net <mailto:Tristan.Santore@internexusconnect.net> Thawte Notary For Fedora related issues, please email me at: TSantore@fedoraproject.org <mailto:TSantore@fedoraproject.org> -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com <mailto:Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
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Maria,
we all had those ideas for FEDORA EMEA, legally a club, but then Red Hat says, it could appear to US tax authorities, who have no jurisdiction in Germany (as the club is based there), that this is an official Red Hat entity, so then it was kind of implied we would have to change it's name. Then about selling stuff, they don't want to sell goods, I guess it is too much hassle for them. And we as the community cant make much of a fuss, as they donate thousands! And the Fedora board has to grant the privilege to make and sell goods, which for Fedora EMEA, they did (apparently). It is all a bit of a pain in the back side. You might find some discussions with regards to this all, in the meetings logs of the EMEA meetings. All I can say is, this is frustrating for everyone. I sent this message just to you, just so you know, what went on before. So brace yourself for problems, if you want to pursue this topic further. I personally hope you will, maybe somebody at Red Hat will listen.
Good luck and all the best.
Regards, Tristan apparently
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OK, that message was for Maria, obviously. Apologies, any opinions there were my own, and no offence should be taken from my email, as this is not anyones fault, especially not Max's. It is a "legal" issue.
Tristan
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world.
From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions,
when we do the Q4 budget calculations.
An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
Thanks, Max
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Just to add some concrete numbers so informed decision making can occur.
The first 1,000 case badges cost $1,000, so $1 each. Most of this is the setup cost for the run. Every 1,000 case badges there after is $180, so the price drops to 0.18 per badge. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to drop any lower from there.
This means we could order 11,000 case badges for $2,800 (25.45 cents each); 20,000 for $4,420 (22.1 cents each); and 50,000 for $9,820 (19.6 cents each). While those numbers seem big, globaly if we split that across APAC, EMEA, LATAM, and NA, it's a lot more affordable.
The quality on these case badges is quite honestly second to none. I have literally not seen anything that comes close to comparing anywhere. They are also incredibly popular. In NA we burned through 3000 in a couple of months.
Just a question now that I see this numbers, and an example to explain myself better:
Question: Have you ever consider make a "marketing store" not only to sell, but also to do all this marketing things on big amounts with Regions Budget and so it, get a better price and bigger amount? I know most of every region budget is for marketing items, so why don't we produce them in a single location, to: make more, make it cheaper?
Examples: 1.- Software Freedom Day: They produce everything (t-shirts, stickers, media, plates... everything) in China and send them with massive shipping to all over the world. First 5 HUGE shipments get to main continents, and from there, local contacts deliver all material.
2.- Flisol: We buy everything in a single place of our country and deliver it to all our cities (get's really cheaper. We save almost 40% and buy more great stuff)
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Might this be a good idea? has been tried before without success??
Only ideas, hope to help
Nice day
2009/12/2 David Nalley david@gnsa.us
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What
looks
gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most
sense
to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them
to
key folks around the world.
From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions,
when we do the Q4 budget calculations.
An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia
have
use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
Thanks, Max
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Just to add some concrete numbers so informed decision making can occur.
The first 1,000 case badges cost $1,000, so $1 each. Most of this is the setup cost for the run. Every 1,000 case badges there after is $180, so the price drops to 0.18 per badge. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to drop any lower from there.
This means we could order 11,000 case badges for $2,800 (25.45 cents each); 20,000 for $4,420 (22.1 cents each); and 50,000 for $9,820 (19.6 cents each). While those numbers seem big, globaly if we split that across APAC, EMEA, LATAM, and NA, it's a lot more affordable.
The quality on these case badges is quite honestly second to none. I have literally not seen anything that comes close to comparing anywhere. They are also incredibly popular. In NA we burned through 3000 in a couple of months.
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:04 AM, David Nalley wrote:
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world.
From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions,
when we do the Q4 budget calculations.
An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
Thanks, Max
-- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
Just to add some concrete numbers so informed decision making can occur.
The first 1,000 case badges cost $1,000, so $1 each. Most of this is the setup cost for the run. Every 1,000 case badges there after is $180, so the price drops to 0.18 per badge. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to drop any lower from there.
This means we could order 11,000 case badges for $2,800 (25.45 cents each); 20,000 for $4,420 (22.1 cents each); and 50,000 for $9,820 (19.6 cents each). While those numbers seem big, globaly if we split that across APAC, EMEA, LATAM, and NA, it's a lot more affordable.
The quality on these case badges is quite honestly second to none. I have literally not seen anything that comes close to comparing anywhere. They are also incredibly popular. In NA we burned through 3000 in a couple of months.
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CORRECTION:
Apparently my numbers are way off. John Rose pulled up the actual numbers and the cost after the first 500 is 13cents per piece. The first 500 cost $550.
So to redo my numbers: 11,000 would cost $1,915 20,000 would cost $3,085 50,000 would cost $6,985
At least it was less
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
In APAC, I am going ahead with making 5,000 pieces of these and I would therefore suggest that the APAC (India and Asia as in quote above) be taken out of the numbers Max was proposing.
APAC Ambassadors, please email me directly on how many your respective geographies would need.
Thanks.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Harish Pillay hpillay@redhat.com wrote:
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
In APAC, I am going ahead with making 5,000 pieces of these and I would therefore suggest that the APAC (India and Asia as in quote above) be taken out of the numbers Max was proposing.
APAC Ambassadors, please email me directly on how many your respective geographies would need.
hi harish,
sending around 100-200 to us would be great :D .. if we need more for a local event/conference , we'll poke :) .. stickers are not going to be outdated like CDs/DVDs ;-)
Thanks.
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Izhar Firdaus kagesenshi.87@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Harish Pillay hpillay@redhat.com wrote:
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
In APAC, I am going ahead with making 5,000 pieces of these and I would therefore suggest that the APAC (India and Asia as in quote above) be taken out of the numbers Max was proposing.
APAC Ambassadors, please email me directly on how many your respective geographies would need.
hi harish,
sending around 100-200 to us would be great :D .. if we need more for a local event/conference , we'll poke :) .. stickers are not going to be outdated like CDs/DVDs ;-)
Thanks.
Harish Pillay 9v1hp hpillay@redhat.com +65.9636.9253 gpg id: 746809E3 gpg fingerprint: F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3
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nice !!
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Harish Pillay wrote:
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
In APAC, I am going ahead with making 5,000 pieces of these and I would therefore suggest that the APAC (India and Asia as in quote above) be taken out of the numbers Max was proposing.
APAC Ambassadors, please email me directly on how many your respective geographies would need.
Thanks.
Harish Pillay 9v1hp hpillay@redhat.com +65.9636.9253 gpg id: 746809E3 gpg fingerprint: F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3
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Just out of curiosity, what is your cost to produce in APAC? Generally I am all for producing regionally or even locally, but small quantities seem so prohibitive. Though at 5,000 it might be cheaper to make locally than shipping around the world.
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
In APAC, I am going ahead with making 5,000 pieces of these and I would therefore suggest that the APAC (India and Asia as in quote above) be taken out of the numbers Max was proposing.
APAC Ambassadors, please email me directly on how many your respective geographies would need.
Just out of curiosity, what is your cost to produce in APAC? Generally I am all for producing regionally or even locally, but small quantities seem so prohibitive. Though at 5,000 it might be cheaper to make locally than shipping around the world.
The quote I got was Singapore 22 cents per piece - about US 15 cents or so. We need to keep the quality especially the colour correct etc so my Red Hat APAC marketing folks here in Singapore are helping to ensure consistency.
Harish
How do I lay my hands on some please?
Regards, Arthur
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 02:28, Harish Pillay hpillay@redhat.com wrote:
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia
have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
In APAC, I am going ahead with making 5,000 pieces of these and I would therefore suggest that the APAC (India and Asia as in quote above) be taken out of the numbers Max was proposing.
APAC Ambassadors, please email me directly on how many your respective geographies would need.
Just out of curiosity, what is your cost to produce in APAC?
Generally I am all for producing regionally or even locally, but small quantities seem so prohibitive. Though at 5,000 it might be cheaper to make locally than shipping around the world.
The quote I got was Singapore 22 cents per piece - about US 15 cents or so. We need to keep the quality especially the colour correct etc so my Red Hat APAC marketing folks here in Singapore are helping to ensure consistency.
Harish
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Nice!
I will ask from Harish Pillay for few hundred units.
But if the cost of producing it at 5000 units would be much cheaper than creating it per region, I would like to suggest why don't we produce it at one location, and mass ship it to regional Red Hat offices. Then this offices will redistribute to Ambassadors for that region.
That should cut the cost of shipping significantly, instead of shipping it to individual Ambassador.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com wrote:
Hi all,
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg
They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny.
Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world.
From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions,
when we do the Q4 budget calculations.
An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
Thanks, Max
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Hi,
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 05:16, Max Spevack mspevack@redhat.com wrote:
In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this:
[snip]
So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan?
For France, we'd like 1500 of them.
Based on the experience we had when we made our own (which were much less gorgeous than those), that should do us a little less than a year (2 full Fedora releases)
Thanks a lot for doing those, they will be greatly appreciated. :)
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