3:07 p.m.
Hai there,
Jens pointed that what is written on the wiki could prevent some
potential contributors to join Fedora Ambassadors Project.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct
" You are Fedora. As an ambassador, you don't just represent yourself,
you represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will
think of the Fedora Project. "
This is a problem for those who earn a living working with other OSes,
but promote fedora during events. These potential contributors would
like to become ambassadors at the same time this title should not
destroy their professional image. This is problem of wordings in the
wiki.
In fact, there are several cases like these in the Fedora Marketing
Mailing list.
Can it be rewritten appropriately to provide on/off Fedora Ambassador status ?
Please note, that among those who are concerned by this, have already
contributed to the Fedora Project and still will, but would like to be
Fedora Ambassador at the time, and not during their working hours.
chitlesh
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10:31 a.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
On 12/6/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
Can it be rewritten appropriately to provide on/off Fedora Ambassador
status ?
Please note, that among those who are concerned by this, have already
contributed to the Fedora Project and still will, but would like to be
Fedora Ambassador at that time, and not during their working hours.
Does this mean I have the green light ?
chitlesh
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10:31 a.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
On 12/6/06, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> Can it be rewritten appropriately to provide on/off Fedora Ambassador
> status ?
> Please note, that among those who are concerned by this, have already
> contributed to the Fedora Project and still will, but would like to be
> Fedora Ambassador at that time, and not during their working hours.
Does this mean I have the green light ?
Atleast for me, I didnt have much of a clue what the whole issue was.
Rahul
11:13 a.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
On 12/8/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Atleast for me, I didnt have much of a clue what the whole issue was.
In short,
Some Fedora Supporters and contributors during wiki/FedoraEvents would
like to be Fedora ambassadors only when they are not working for their
company or professional work.
An example might be:
someone teaching novell/microsoft stuffs to earn money, but during
their spare time they promote Fedora. However they want to be Fedora
ambassadors during their spare time and the wordings in the wiki
prevents them to do so.
chitlesh
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http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
11:30 a.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
Some Fedora Supporters and contributors during wiki/FedoraEvents
would
like to be Fedora ambassadors only when they are not working for their
company or professional work.
An example might be:
someone teaching novell/microsoft stuffs to earn money, but during
their spare time they promote Fedora. However they want to be Fedora
ambassadors during their spare time and the wordings in the wiki
prevents them to do so.
I don't see what is preventing them from being a Fedora Ambassador. I
am sure there are numerous Fedora Ambassadors who might work during the
day with a different OS, but still make great Ambassadors when they
participate in local LUG events.
The part you quoted earlier:
"As an ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you represent the
Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think of the Fedora
Project. This means that there are some important rules to follow, and
giving the right impression is important."
is from the Fedora Ambassador Conduct page in the Wiki. That statement
means to remember when you are in public, representing the Fedora
Project to act appropriately. It then goes on to list specific things
to aware of - none of which would rule out someone working as a
novell/microsoft trainer from being an Ambassador in their spare time.
--Jeffrey
11:32 a.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
On 12/8/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Atleast for me, I didnt have much of a clue what the whole issue was.
In short,
Some Fedora Supporters and contributors during wiki/FedoraEvents would
like to be Fedora ambassadors only when they are not working for their
company or professional work.
An example might be:
someone teaching novell/microsoft stuffs to earn money, but during
their spare time they promote Fedora. However they want to be Fedora
ambassadors during their spare time and the wordings in the wiki
prevents them to do so.
You are misreading what is written in the wiki. Ambassadors are
volunteers and the conduct is a general set of guidelines. There is
nothing in the guidelines which can ever prevent anyone from playing the
role of a ambassadors as and when they want.
Rahul
11:38 a.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
On 12/8/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
You are misreading what is written in the wiki. Ambassadors are
volunteers and the conduct is a general set of guidelines. There is
nothing in the guidelines which can ever prevent anyone from playing the
role of a ambassadors as and when they want.
" You are Fedora. As an ambassador, you don't just represent yourself,
you represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will
think of the Fedora Project. "
For someone who is working for another project, it's not appropriate
for their professional image right ?
chitlesh
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http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
11:45 a.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
On 12/8/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> You are misreading what is written in the wiki. Ambassadors are
> volunteers and the conduct is a general set of guidelines. There is
> nothing in the guidelines which can ever prevent anyone from playing the
> role of a ambassadors as and when they want.
>
" You are Fedora. As an ambassador, you don't just represent yourself,
you represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will
think of the Fedora Project. "
For someone who is working for another project, it's not appropriate
for their professional image right ?
That depends on whether they consider their role as a ambassadors as
conflicting with whatever project they are working on. They might have
to reconsider being a ambassador in that case. While playing the role of
a ambassador, we would all agree that they need to set aside just their
personal biases on behalf of the project. What they do outside of the
project at home or work is not something we would need to bothered about.
Rahul
11:48 a.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
[Re-send. I think the first was lost in ether.]
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
Some Fedora Supporters and contributors during wiki/FedoraEvents
would
like to be Fedora ambassadors only when they are not working for their
company or professional work.
An example might be:
someone teaching novell/microsoft stuffs to earn money, but during
their spare time they promote Fedora. However they want to be Fedora
ambassadors during their spare time and the wordings in the wiki
prevents them to do so.
I don't see what is preventing them from being a Fedora Ambassador. I
am sure there are numerous Fedora Ambassadors who might work during the
day with a different OS, but still make great Ambassadors when they
participate in local LUG events.
The part you quoted earlier:
"As an ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you represent the
Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think of the Fedora
Project. This means that there are some important rules to follow, and
giving the right impression is important."
is from the Fedora Ambassador Conduct page in the Wiki. That statement
means to remember when you are in public, representing the Fedora
Project to act appropriately. It then goes on to list specific things
to aware of - none of which would rule out someone working as a
novell/microsoft trainer from being an Ambassador in their spare time.
--Jeffrey
6 p.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
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represent the
Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think of the Fedora
Project. This means that there are some important rules to follow, and
giving the right impression is important."
is from the Fedora Ambassador Conduct page in the Wiki. That statement
means to remember when you are in public, representing the Fedora
Project to act appropriately. It then goes on to list specific things
to aware of - none of which would rule out someone working as a
novell/microsoft trainer from being an Ambassador in their spare time.
That's why we want a /slight/ rewording.
"When people think of __you__, they will think of the Fedora Project."
is not appropriate. Of course we know what it means. But for many people
the actual text does also matter.
How about:
"When acting as ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you
represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think
of the Fedora Project. This means that there are some important rules to
follow, and giving the right impression is important."
Cheers
Florian
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12:13 p.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
Florian Brand wrote:
That's why we want a /slight/ rewording.
"When people think of __you__, they will think of the Fedora Project."
is not appropriate.
How about:
"When acting as ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you
represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think
of the Fedora Project. This means that there are some important rules to
follow, and giving the right impression is important."
That change looks good to me if it helps clear up confusion for people.
--Jeffrey
3:09 p.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
Jeffrey Tadlock wrote:
Florian Brand wrote:
> That's why we want a /slight/ rewording.
> "When people think of __you__, they will think of the Fedora Project."
> is not appropriate.
>
> How about:
> "When acting as ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you
> represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think
> of the Fedora Project. This means that there are some important rules to
> follow, and giving the right impression is important."
That change looks good to me if it helps clear up confusion for people.
--Jeffrey
Agreed. I have added the clarification.
Rahul
5:58 p.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
On 12/8/06, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Agreed. I have added the clarification.
Thanks Rahul :)
chitlesh
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http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
12:34 p.m.
New subject: on/off ambassador status (was Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD)
On 12/8/06, Florian Brand <fbrand(a)redhat.com> wrote:
How about:
"When acting as ambassador, you don't just represent yourself, you
represent the Fedora Project. When people think of you, they will think
of the Fedora Project. This means that there are some important rules to
follow, and giving the right impression is important."
Florian,
That's fine with me too.
Unless there is any objection, please go ahead and make the change.
Regards,
--
Thomas Chung
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