5:36 p.m.
Hi,
as Fedora 16 is around the corner, FAmSCo elections are, too.
All 7 seats in FAmSCo are up for re-election. This means:
1. we need at least 7 people who run for FAmSco
2. we need you to ask the candidates your questions
3. we need somebody to gather these questions and do the
questionnaire
4. we need people to chair the IRC townhall meetings with the
candidates.
According to the schedule [1] the townhalls should happen until Friday,
October 28th, 2011. This means we need to hurry with all other items.
The questionnaire will take place in the wiki. The person to organize it
will set up a page their for your questions, mail all candidates and
collect their answers and put them on the wiki again. Of course this
should be somebody who is not running for FAmSCo.
If you want to run for FAmSCo or if you have suggestions who should run,
please speak up!
There is nothing wrong with making suggestions, in fact I consider it a
good thing, but please contact the person in question before you suggest
her/him in public.
Please help us forming a strong FAmSCo for the next year!
Regards,
Christoph
2:20 p.m.
Hi Ambassadors,
It's been a few months now since I no longer had an active role in the
resource side of Fedora Ambassadors, and even longer since I was a
formal member of FAMSCO.
Even so, I wanted to take a few moments to write about some of the
topics that I'd like to see FAMSCO take a look at over the next year, in
order to make sure that Ambassadors overall is healthy, and to make sure
that FAMSCO itself is providing value to the Fedora community at large.
I've organized my thoughts into a few categories:
IDENTIFY
For each region (NA, LATAM, EMEA, India, APAC), make sure you can list
out 10 Ambassadors who are obviously go-to leaders in that region.
Folks who are active on the list, organizing and coordinating events,
keeping resources flowing, mentoring contributors, etc. Make sure that
someone on FAMSCO making a personal connection with each of those people
at least once per month, for a private IRC chat or a phone call. If you
can't come up with 10 names in a region, treat that as a red flag and
work with the folks who are active and leaders in that region to reach
out to other members of the FOSS community.
SIMPLIFY
Come up with a list of 5-7 basic things that FAMSCO wants to ensure
exist for Ambassadors across the globe, and make sure it exists, working
with and in the regional Ambassador groups to do so.
Some possibilities:
* HOWTOs for event organization
* HOWTOs for media production and event kits
* Budget guidance and categories that need approval, that don't need
approval, etc.
* List of the 5 most important non-FUDCon and non-FAD events in the
region, and ensure they have owners and budget.
* etc.
CONNECT
Here's an idea that I have given the boring name of 3x3. The goal --
each Ambassador's goal is to introduce (or re-energize) 3 contributors
to 3 different parts of the Fedora Project. Find these folks, mentor
them into different parts of Fedora, introduce them to the Fedora
community on your blog or mailing list as part of the 3x3 challenge, and
then make sure that they are having some success in the part of Fedora
that they have joined. Set aside some funding to incent people who are
embracing this challenge (either current or new contributors) with
sponsorships for FUDCons or FADs.
PAY
Make sure that the regional Ambassador credit card program is still
working, and not having any issues in terms of bill payment by Red Hat.
Consider expanding the program by another 1 or 2 people, and work with
Red Hat's Fedora leadership to determine the best way to do this.
Keep a wiki page that lists every expense that could *not* be paid with
the community credit cards, and work with Red Hat's Fedora leadership to
figure out how to get those reimbursed in other ways. This wiki page
can be as simple as a list of trac tickets.
Make sure that there is a reimbursment SLA that is followed by the
community credit card holders and Red Hat's Fedora leadership who are
able to reimburse. Collaborate w/ Red Hat to come up with a good policy
here.
--Max
7:08 a.m.
Great ideas, actually I really like the point you are bringing up with 10
FAms for region.
It is time to make the country wise contribution strong and hence make the
regional support strong.
Every FAm should make sure that they have building up their community in
their Cities, Countries.
That is what is know as Divide and Conquer :)
One thing we can use to make regional communities strong, we can use
Regional meetings. In APAC we host one meeting per week.
That helps us to keep the track of all the things happening under the
sun. Personally I believe; mentors should play a major role and
should emphasize the importance of those when newbies are stepping in to the
project.
More ideas make the journey smoother and perfect, so we need ideas to shape
the next leadership body for the Fedora Project.
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Max Spevack <mspevack(a)fedoraproject.org>wrote:
Hi Ambassadors,
It's been a few months now since I no longer had an active role in the
resource side of Fedora Ambassadors, and even longer since I was a
formal member of FAMSCO.
Even so, I wanted to take a few moments to write about some of the
topics that I'd like to see FAMSCO take a look at over the next year, in
order to make sure that Ambassadors overall is healthy, and to make sure
that FAMSCO itself is providing value to the Fedora community at large.
I've organized my thoughts into a few categories:
IDENTIFY
For each region (NA, LATAM, EMEA, India, APAC), make sure you can list
out 10 Ambassadors who are obviously go-to leaders in that region.
Folks who are active on the list, organizing and coordinating events,
keeping resources flowing, mentoring contributors, etc. Make sure that
someone on FAMSCO making a personal connection with each of those people
at least once per month, for a private IRC chat or a phone call. If you
can't come up with 10 names in a region, treat that as a red flag and
work with the folks who are active and leaders in that region to reach
out to other members of the FOSS community.
SIMPLIFY
Come up with a list of 5-7 basic things that FAMSCO wants to ensure
exist for Ambassadors across the globe, and make sure it exists, working
with and in the regional Ambassador groups to do so.
Some possibilities:
* HOWTOs for event organization
* HOWTOs for media production and event kits
* Budget guidance and categories that need approval, that don't need
approval, etc.
* List of the 5 most important non-FUDCon and non-FAD events in the
region, and ensure they have owners and budget.
* etc.
CONNECT
Here's an idea that I have given the boring name of 3x3. The goal --
each Ambassador's goal is to introduce (or re-energize) 3 contributors
to 3 different parts of the Fedora Project. Find these folks, mentor
them into different parts of Fedora, introduce them to the Fedora
community on your blog or mailing list as part of the 3x3 challenge, and
then make sure that they are having some success in the part of Fedora
that they have joined. Set aside some funding to incent people who are
embracing this challenge (either current or new contributors) with
sponsorships for FUDCons or FADs.
PAY
Make sure that the regional Ambassador credit card program is still
working, and not having any issues in terms of bill payment by Red Hat.
Consider expanding the program by another 1 or 2 people, and work with
Red Hat's Fedora leadership to determine the best way to do this.
Keep a wiki page that lists every expense that could *not* be paid with
the community credit cards, and work with Red Hat's Fedora leadership to
figure out how to get those reimbursed in other ways. This wiki page
can be as simple as a list of trac tickets.
Make sure that there is a reimbursment SLA that is followed by the
community credit card holders and Red Hat's Fedora leadership who are
able to reimburse. Collaborate w/ Red Hat to come up with a good policy
here.
--Max
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Regards,
*Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera(bckurera)*
Fedora Ambassador Sri Lanka
Event Liaison - Design Team
*Email*: bckurera(a)fedoraproject.org | *IRC*: bckurera
*
*
8:51 p.m.
Hi Christoph, Max, Buddhika et all,
It's highly appropriated and I totally agree with you.
@ Buddhika: this should be a nice topic to be discussed in today meeting. Hope to see all
of you there.
P.S. sorry because of top-posting, but there are a lot of really interesting things which
should not be cut off.
Kind regards,
Tuan
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From: "Buddhika Kurera" <bckurera(a)fedoraproject.org>
To: ambassadors(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 7:08:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo elections coming your way
Great ideas, actually I really like the point you are bringing up with 10 FAms for region.
It is time to make the country wise contribution strong and hence make the regional
support strong.
Every FAm should make sure that they have building up their community in their Cities,
Countries.
That is what is know as Divide and Conquer :)
One thing we can use to make regional communities strong, we can use Regional meetings. In
APAC we host one meeting per week.
That helps us to keep the track of all the things happening under the sun. Personally I
believe; mentors should play a major role and should emphasize the importance of those
when newbies are stepping in to the project.
More ideas make the journey smoother and perfect, so we need ideas to shape the next
leadership body for the Fedora Project.
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Max Spevack < mspevack(a)fedoraproject.org > wrote:
Hi Ambassadors,
It's been a few months now since I no longer had an active role in the
resource side of Fedora Ambassadors, and even longer since I was a
formal member of FAMSCO.
Even so, I wanted to take a few moments to write about some of the
topics that I'd like to see FAMSCO take a look at over the next year, in
order to make sure that Ambassadors overall is healthy, and to make sure
that FAMSCO itself is providing value to the Fedora community at large.
I've organized my thoughts into a few categories:
IDENTIFY
For each region (NA, LATAM, EMEA, India, APAC), make sure you can list
out 10 Ambassadors who are obviously go-to leaders in that region.
Folks who are active on the list, organizing and coordinating events,
keeping resources flowing, mentoring contributors, etc. Make sure that
someone on FAMSCO making a personal connection with each of those people
at least once per month, for a private IRC chat or a phone call. If you
can't come up with 10 names in a region, treat that as a red flag and
work with the folks who are active and leaders in that region to reach
out to other members of the FOSS community.
SIMPLIFY
Come up with a list of 5-7 basic things that FAMSCO wants to ensure
exist for Ambassadors across the globe, and make sure it exists, working
with and in the regional Ambassador groups to do so.
Some possibilities:
* HOWTOs for event organization
* HOWTOs for media production and event kits
* Budget guidance and categories that need approval, that don't need
approval, etc.
* List of the 5 most important non-FUDCon and non-FAD events in the
region, and ensure they have owners and budget.
* etc.
CONNECT
Here's an idea that I have given the boring name of 3x3. The goal --
each Ambassador's goal is to introduce (or re-energize) 3 contributors
to 3 different parts of the Fedora Project. Find these folks, mentor
them into different parts of Fedora, introduce them to the Fedora
community on your blog or mailing list as part of the 3x3 challenge, and
then make sure that they are having some success in the part of Fedora
that they have joined. Set aside some funding to incent people who are
embracing this challenge (either current or new contributors) with
sponsorships for FUDCons or FADs.
PAY
Make sure that the regional Ambassador credit card program is still
working, and not having any issues in terms of bill payment by Red Hat.
Consider expanding the program by another 1 or 2 people, and work with
Red Hat's Fedora leadership to determine the best way to do this.
Keep a wiki page that lists every expense that could *not* be paid with
the community credit cards, and work with Red Hat's Fedora leadership to
figure out how to get those reimbursed in other ways. This wiki page
can be as simple as a list of trac tickets.
Make sure that there is a reimbursment SLA that is followed by the
community credit card holders and Red Hat's Fedora leadership who are
able to reimburse. Collaborate w/ Red Hat to come up with a good policy
here.
--Max
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Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera(bckurera)
Fedora Ambassador Sri Lanka
Event Liaison - Design Team
Email : bckurera(a)fedoraproject.org | IRC : bckurera
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11:14 a.m.
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Max Spevack <mspevack(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Hi Ambassadors,
It's been a few months now since I no longer had an active role in the
resource side of Fedora Ambassadors, and even longer since I was a
formal member of FAMSCO.
Even so, I wanted to take a few moments to write about some of the
topics that I'd like to see FAMSCO take a look at over the next year, in
order to make sure that Ambassadors overall is healthy, and to make sure
that FAMSCO itself is providing value to the Fedora community at large.
I've organized my thoughts into a few categories:
... snip ...
PAY
Make sure that the regional Ambassador credit card program is still
working, and not having any issues in terms of bill payment by Red Hat.
Consider expanding the program by another 1 or 2 people, and work with
Red Hat's Fedora leadership to determine the best way to do this.
Keep a wiki page that lists every expense that could *not* be paid with
the community credit cards, and work with Red Hat's Fedora leadership to
figure out how to get those reimbursed in other ways. This wiki page
can be as simple as a list of trac tickets.
Make sure that there is a reimbursment SLA that is followed by the
community credit card holders and Red Hat's Fedora leadership who are
able to reimburse. Collaborate w/ Red Hat to come up with a good policy
here.
I will add here that I haven't had any problems with dealing with this
with Red Hat although I do feel rather in the dark about the current
state of the budget and this has been something bothering me all
along. I think we need some structure whereby community card holders
have a much better understanding of the current state of the overall
budget at frequent points in time to avoid overspending (or the
persistent fear of overspending that comes from being in the dark).
John
12:25 p.m.
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Max Spevack
<mspevack(a)fedoraproject.org>
wrote:
> Hi Ambassadors,
>
> It's been a few months now since I no longer had an active role in the
> resource side of Fedora Ambassadors, and even longer since I was a
> formal member of FAMSCO.
>
> Even so, I wanted to take a few moments to write about some of the
> topics that I'd like to see FAMSCO take a look at over the next year, in
> order to make sure that Ambassadors overall is healthy, and to make sure
> that FAMSCO itself is providing value to the Fedora community at large.
>
> I've organized my thoughts into a few categories:
>
>... snip ...
>
> PAY
>
> Make sure that the regional Ambassador credit card program is still
> working, and not having any issues in terms of bill payment by Red Hat.
> Consider expanding the program by another 1 or 2 people, and work with
> Red Hat's Fedora leadership to determine the best way to do this.
>
> Keep a wiki page that lists every expense that could *not* be paid with
> the community credit cards, and work with Red Hat's Fedora leadership to
> figure out how to get those reimbursed in other ways. Â This wiki page
> can be as simple as a list of trac tickets.
>
> Make sure that there is a reimbursment SLA that is followed by the
> community credit card holders and Red Hat's Fedora leadership who are
> able to reimburse. Â Collaborate w/ Red Hat to come up with a good
> policy
> here.
I will add here that I haven't had any problems with dealing with this
with Red Hat although I do feel rather in the dark about the current
state of the budget and this has been something bothering me all
along. I think we need some structure whereby community card holders
have a much better understanding of the current state of the overall
budget at frequent points in time to avoid overspending (or the
persistent fear of overspending that comes from being in the dark).
I totally agree with the sense of fear that comes from being on the dark.
Neville
12:30 p.m.
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:25 PM, <neville(a)taygon.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Max Spevack
<mspevack(a)fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
>> Hi Ambassadors,
>>
>> It's been a few months now since I no longer had an active role in the
>> resource side of Fedora Ambassadors, and even longer since I was a
>> formal member of FAMSCO.
>>
>> Even so, I wanted to take a few moments to write about some of the
>> topics that I'd like to see FAMSCO take a look at over the next year, in
>> order to make sure that Ambassadors overall is healthy, and to make sure
>> that FAMSCO itself is providing value to the Fedora community at large.
>>
>> I've organized my thoughts into a few categories:
>>
>>... snip ...
>>
>> PAY
>>
>> Make sure that the regional Ambassador credit card program is still
>> working, and not having any issues in terms of bill payment by Red Hat.
>> Consider expanding the program by another 1 or 2 people, and work with
>> Red Hat's Fedora leadership to determine the best way to do this.
>>
>> Keep a wiki page that lists every expense that could *not* be paid with
>> the community credit cards, and work with Red Hat's Fedora leadership to
>> figure out how to get those reimbursed in other ways. Â This wiki page
>> can be as simple as a list of trac tickets.
>>
>> Make sure that there is a reimbursment SLA that is followed by the
>> community credit card holders and Red Hat's Fedora leadership who are
>> able to reimburse. Â Collaborate w/ Red Hat to come up with a good
>> policy
>> here.
>
> I will add here that I haven't had any problems with dealing with this
> with Red Hat although I do feel rather in the dark about the current
> state of the budget and this has been something bothering me all
> along. I think we need some structure whereby community card holders
> have a much better understanding of the current state of the overall
> budget at frequent points in time to avoid overspending (or the
> persistent fear of overspending that comes from being in the dark).
>
I totally agree with the sense of fear that comes from being on the dark.
Neville
So how do we change this? (and that's not a rhetorical question)
It strikes me (from the outside, and uninvolved in all of this) that
we could best do this by delegating all of the Fedora discretionary
budget to these cardholders, then it becomes up to them to keep the
records up. (wikipage) And if anyone in CommArch wants to spend out of
the discretionary budget then they'd come to those folks and get it
spent.
Of course, I say this from the outside - I have no real visibility
into how this all really works.
Harish? Quaid? Mel? <-- want to weigh in here?
--David
7:33 p.m.
Em Seg, 2011-10-31 às 13:30 -0400, David Nalley escreveu:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:25 PM, <neville(a)taygon.com> wrote:
> I totally agree with the sense of fear that comes from being on the dark.
>
> Neville
>
So how do we change this? (and that's not a rhetorical question)
It strikes me (from the outside, and uninvolved in all of this) that
we could best do this by delegating all of the Fedora discretionary
budget to these cardholders, then it becomes up to them to keep the
records up. (wikipage) And if anyone in CommArch wants to spend out of
the discretionary budget then they'd come to those folks and get it
spent.
Of course, I say this from the outside - I have no real visibility
into how this all really works.
Harish? Quaid? Mel? <-- want to weigh in here?
One thing I would like to suggest is to have listed on the wiki not only
on what we spent money, but also list events and swag requirements that
will need budget and how much they will demand over the fiscal year. For
instance, most major events are recurrent every year and we could
presume the proper budget for them by forehand.
We usually have at least three fases of budget that should be better
discriminated: What we spent (ticket approved, payed and closed), what
we are spending (Tickets approved but not payed yet), what we will need
to spend (recurrent spending).
On the other hand we need to take care to not turn this into something
unnecessarily complicated. Fortunately most of information needed is
easily available, although not compiled in a proper way for decision
making.
Regards,
--
Igor Pires Soares
Fedora Ambassador (Brazil) - Member of FAmSCo
Fedora I18N/L10N QA
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Igor
9:55 p.m.
Hello everybody,
How are you?
I am happy for the Fedora 16 Elections
http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-elections.html
I want to be a member of FAmSCo.
Thanks
Rejaul Islam
Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rejaul
10:25 p.m.
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, Igor Pires Soares wrote:
One thing I would like to suggest is to have listed on the wiki not
only on what we spent money
Continuing the Fedora budget tracking on the wiki that I used to take
care of, and making the review of that a common task that happens with
the card holders, famsco, and a RH representative, would be a solution
that pretty much fits in with previously-established work patterns.
When was the last time budget was discussed in a FAMSCO meeting that
included both FAMSCO folks and a Fedora budget manager from Red Hat?
--Max
10:35 p.m.
On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 13:30 -0400, David Nalley wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:25 PM, <neville(a)taygon.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Max Spevack <mspevack(a)fedoraproject.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Ambassadors,
>>>
>>> It's been a few months now since I no longer had an active role in the
>>> resource side of Fedora Ambassadors, and even longer since I was a
>>> formal member of FAMSCO.
>>>
>>> Even so, I wanted to take a few moments to write about some of the
>>> topics that I'd like to see FAMSCO take a look at over the next year,
in
>>> order to make sure that Ambassadors overall is healthy, and to make sure
>>> that FAMSCO itself is providing value to the Fedora community at large.
>>>
>>> I've organized my thoughts into a few categories:
>>>
>>>... snip ...
>>>
>>> PAY
>>>
>>> Make sure that the regional Ambassador credit card program is still
>>> working, and not having any issues in terms of bill payment by Red Hat.
>>> Consider expanding the program by another 1 or 2 people, and work with
>>> Red Hat's Fedora leadership to determine the best way to do this.
>>>
>>> Keep a wiki page that lists every expense that could *not* be paid with
>>> the community credit cards, and work with Red Hat's Fedora leadership
to
>>> figure out how to get those reimbursed in other ways. Â This wiki page
>>> can be as simple as a list of trac tickets.
>>>
>>> Make sure that there is a reimbursment SLA that is followed by the
>>> community credit card holders and Red Hat's Fedora leadership who are
>>> able to reimburse. Â Collaborate w/ Red Hat to come up with a good
>>> policy
>>> here.
>>
>> I will add here that I haven't had any problems with dealing with this
>> with Red Hat although I do feel rather in the dark about the current
>> state of the budget and this has been something bothering me all
>> along. I think we need some structure whereby community card holders
>> have a much better understanding of the current state of the overall
>> budget at frequent points in time to avoid overspending (or the
>> persistent fear of overspending that comes from being in the dark).
>>
>
> I totally agree with the sense of fear that comes from being on the dark.
>
> Neville
>
So how do we change this? (and that's not a rhetorical question)
It strikes me (from the outside, and uninvolved in all of this) that
we could best do this by delegating all of the Fedora discretionary
budget to these cardholders, then it becomes up to them to keep the
records up. (wikipage) And if anyone in CommArch wants to spend out of
the discretionary budget then they'd come to those folks and get it
spent.
Of course, I say this from the outside - I have no real visibility
into how this all really works.
Harish? Quaid? Mel? <-- want to weigh in here?
--David
My first thought was that it may be a lot of work, and that this will
implies reducing other areas of collaboration with the project. Then I
realized that I am not sure how many transactions this will involve, I
can not say if this is a good idea or bad.
--
Neville A. Cross
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
Linux User #: 473217
11:43 p.m.
On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 20:25 -0700, Max Spevack wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, Igor Pires Soares wrote:
> One thing I would like to suggest is to have listed on the wiki not
> only on what we spent money
Continuing the Fedora budget tracking on the wiki that I used to take
care of, and making the review of that a common task that happens with
the card holders, famsco, and a RH representative, would be a solution
that pretty much fits in with previously-established work patterns.
When was the last time budget was discussed in a FAMSCO meeting that
included both FAMSCO folks and a Fedora budget manager from Red Hat?
--Max
I think that is the big problem, we need to get together and we haven't
do so.
Wiki can be really difficult for finding a specific page, I would love
to have links to the pages where we should keep logs, and pages that we
should look at to get the broad picture of the budget. In any case wiki
pages will not substitute getting the key people to talk about this.
Probably we should reconsider Max's idea of financial SIG ?
--
Neville A. Cross
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v
Linux User #: 473217
8:28 a.m.
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Neville A. Cross <neville(a)taygon.com> wrote:
I think that is the big problem, we need to get together and we
haven't
do so.
Wiki can be really difficult for finding a specific page, I would love
to have links to the pages where we should keep logs, and pages that we
should look at to get the broad picture of the budget. In any case wiki
pages will not substitute getting the key people to talk about this.
Probably we should reconsider Max's idea of financial SIG ?
This is exactly what I was thinking too. If we could meet even once a
month, fairly soon after the payment cycle so we had a generally
accurate picture of things going into a new month this would go a long
way toward increasing my comfort level.
Other record keeping is also a good idea but wiki pages always end up
getting out of date at some point.
John
9:09 a.m.
Am Montag, den 31.10.2011, 20:25 -0700 schrieb Max Spevack:
When was the last time budget was discussed in a FAMSCO meeting that
included both FAMSCO folks and a Fedora budget manager from Red Hat?
When you last attended a FAMSCo meeting. If there is a budget manager
from Red Hat, it's Harish, but he does not attend FAmSCo meetings.
Regards,
Christoph
3:16 a.m.
* on the Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 08:28:55AM -0500, inode0 was commenting:
| On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Neville A. Cross <neville(a)taygon.com> wrote:
| > I think that is the big problem, we need to get together and we haven't
| > do so.
| >
| > Wiki can be really difficult for finding a specific page, I would love
| > to have links to the pages where we should keep logs, and pages that we
| > should look at to get the broad picture of the budget. In any case wiki
| > pages will not substitute getting the key people to talk about this.
| >
| > Probably we should reconsider Max's idea of financial SIG ?
|
| This is exactly what I was thinking too. If we could meet even once a
| month, fairly soon after the payment cycle so we had a generally
| accurate picture of things going into a new month this would go a long
| way toward increasing my comfort level.
|
| Other record keeping is also a good idea but wiki pages always end up
| getting out of date at some point.
As the person who has to manage the budget from the Red Hat side and
having taken over the role since about August, I must admit that I
was very conservative and perhaps slow in getting things done. I needed
to reach a level of comfort for ultimately, I'm answerable to the spending.
I think if an agenda item can be placed in the FAmSCo meetings to
discuss finance - as suggested above and on a monthly basis - it will
be useful and I will attend them.
Thanks.
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