Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors?

[Sílvio Reis]

What is our role as ambassadors?
I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in
Portugal.
As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
project Fedora Portugal.
The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
participate in the website.

More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this
adventure, *should
I start the project without any support? *

The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir
Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula.
In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and just
does not have a community.
So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
translate the Fedora.
With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating next
month.
The question is: who will be there?
That is why I ask your opinion:
*it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another 5
Portuguese ambassadors?*

Sílvio Reis

http://www.projectofedora.org/

[Pablo Barrera]

Hi Silvio
( Yes Im back for good ) :-)

Some points that can help u, about my personal experience...

2008/7/31 Sílvio Reis
> What is our role as ambassadors?
> I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in
> Portugal.
> As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> project Fedora Portugal.
> The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
> participate in the website.

Normally in our regions....really normally...
> More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this adventure,
> *should I start the project without any support? *

At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice of
Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions.
When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an
oportunity to "make the difference".

A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and
reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy.
Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon or
later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to
people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an enourmus
task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the
main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed.
> The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir
> Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula.

Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know that he
will help you whenever he will be.
> In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and just
> does not have a community.
> So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.

Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web site
could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on
Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site
building...
> We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> translate the Fedora.
> With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating next
> month.
> The question is: who will be there?

The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in Portugal. Do
not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors could help u,
but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can start the
project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site is the
firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to
newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora
Argentina in 2006, i was alone.
> That is why I ask your opinion:
> *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another
> 5 Portuguese ambassadors?*

Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their silence is
not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems, or other
issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal opinion,
anyway.

A good start could be mount the website....
Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora HispaAmerica
:-)

Nice to be here again.....
Fedorize! yourself

P.
> Sílvio Reis
>
> http://www.projectofedora.org/
>
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> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

[Neo Reeves]

Silvio,

I am one of the Ambassador for Maldives. And if you need any help from me
let me know. I'll be there, but remember I don't speak or write Portugal.

Just shoot when you need me. I really appreciate people like you.

- Sameeh

2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera
> Hi Silvio
> ( Yes Im back for good ) :-)
>
> Some points that can help u, about my personal experience...
>
> 2008/7/31 Sílvio Reis
> > What is our role as ambassadors?
> > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in
> > Portugal.
> > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> > project Fedora Portugal.
> > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
> > participate in the website.
>
> Normally in our regions....really normally...
> > More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this adventure,
> > *should I start the project without any support? *
>
> At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice of
> Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions.
> When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an
> oportunity to "make the difference".
>
> A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and
> reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy.
> Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon or
> later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to
> people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an enourmus
> task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the
> main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed.
> > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir
> > Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula.
>
> Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know that
> he will help you whenever he will be.
> > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and just
> > does not have a community.
> > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
>
> Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web site
> could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on
> Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site
> building...
> > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> > translate the Fedora.
> > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating
> > next month.
> > The question is: who will be there?
>
> The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in Portugal. Do
> not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors could help u,
> but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can start the
> project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site is the
> firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to
> newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora
> Argentina in 2006, i was alone.
> > That is why I ask your opinion:
> > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another
> > 5 Portuguese ambassadors?*
>
> Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their silence is
> not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems, or other
> issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal opinion,
> anyway.
>
> A good start could be mount the website....
> Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora HispaAmerica
> :-)
>
> Nice to be here again.....
> Fedorize! yourself
>
> P.
> > Sílvio Reis
> >
> > http://www.projectofedora.org/
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> --
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> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

[RazGriz]

Hi,

i wanna help too =].

2008/7/31 Neo Reeves
> Silvio,
>
> I am one of the Ambassador for Maldives. And if you need any help from me
> let me know. I'll be there, but remember I don't speak or write Portugal.
>
> Just shoot when you need me. I really appreciate people like you.
> Sameeh
>
> 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera
>
> Hi Silvio
> > ( Yes Im back for good ) :-)
> >
> > Some points that can help u, about my personal experience...
> >
> > 2008/7/31 Sílvio Reis
> > > What is our role as ambassadors?
> > > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> > > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> > > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in
> > > Portugal.
> > > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> > > project Fedora Portugal.
> > > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
> > > participate in the website.
> >
> > Normally in our regions....really normally...
> > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> > > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this adventure,
> > > *should I start the project without any support? *
> >
> > At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice of
> > Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions.
> > When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an
> > oportunity to "make the difference".
> >
> > A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and
> > reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy.
> > Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon or
> > later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to
> > people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an enourmus
> > task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the
> > main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed.
> > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir
> > > Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula.
> >
> > Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know that
> > he will help you whenever he will be.
> > > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and
> > > just does not have a community.
> > > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
> >
> > Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web site
> > could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on
> > Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site
> > building...
> > > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> > > translate the Fedora.
> > > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating
> > > next month.
> > > The question is: who will be there?
> >
> > The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in Portugal.
> > Do not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors could help
> > u, but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can start the
> > project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site is the
> > firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to
> > newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora
> > Argentina in 2006, i was alone.
> > > That is why I ask your opinion:
> > > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of
> > > another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?*
> >
> > Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their silence
> > is not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems, or
> > other issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal
> > opinion, anyway.
> >
> > A good start could be mount the website....
> > Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora HispaAmerica
> > :-)
> >
> > Nice to be here again.....
> > Fedorize! yourself
> >
> > P.
> > > Sílvio Reis
> > >
> > > http://www.projectofedora.org/
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> --
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>
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[Juan M. Rodriguez]

2008/7/31 RazGriz
> Hi,
>
> i wanna help too =].
>
> 2008/7/31 Neo Reeves
>
> Silvio,
> > I am one of the Ambassador for Maldives. And if you need any help from me
> > let me know. I'll be there, but remember I don't speak or write Portugal.
> >
> > Just shoot when you need me. I really appreciate people like you.
> > Sameeh
> >
> > 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera
> >
> > Hi Silvio
> > > ( Yes Im back for good ) :-)
> > >
> > > Some points that can help u, about my personal experience...
> > >
> > > 2008/7/31 Sílvio Reis
> > > > What is our role as ambassadors?
> > > > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> > > > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> > > > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least
> > > > in Portugal.
> > > > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> > > > project Fedora Portugal.
> > > > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
> > > > participate in the website.
> > >
> > > Normally in our regions....really normally...
> > > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> > > > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this
> > > > adventure, *should I start the project without any support? *
> > >
> > > At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice of
> > > Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions.
> > > When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an
> > > oportunity to "make the difference".
> > >
> > > A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and
> > > reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy.
> > > Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon or
> > > later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to
> > > people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an enourmus
> > > task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the
> > > main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed.
> > > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir
> > > > Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula.
> > >
> > > Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know that
> > > he will help you whenever he will be.
> > > > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and
> > > > just does not have a community.
> > > > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
> > >
> > > Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web site
> > > could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on
> > > Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site
> > > building...
> > > > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> > > > translate the Fedora.
> > > > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating
> > > > next month.
> > > > The question is: who will be there?
> > >
> > > The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in Portugal.
> > > Do not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors could help
> > > u, but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can start the
> > > project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site is the
> > > firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to
> > > newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora
> > > Argentina in 2006, i was alone.
> > > > That is why I ask your opinion:
> > > > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of
> > > > another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?*
> > >
> > > Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their silence
> > > is not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems, or
> > > other issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal
> > > opinion, anyway.
> > >
> > > A good start could be mount the website....
> > > Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora
> > > HispaAmerica :-)
> > >
> > > Nice to be here again.....
> > > Fedorize! yourself
> > >
> > > P.
> > > > Sílvio Reis
> > > >
> > > > http://www.projectofedora.org/
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> >
> > --
> > .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::.
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> --
> RazGriz
> The Solo_-Wing.
> Diretor de Arte
> GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org
> 2 Tons Comunicação
> Revista Fedora Brasil
> Portal O-Gimp
> -=-=:Quem constrói a realidade é você.
>
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> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

Count me in too.

I currently administrate the ProyectoFedora.org Website, so whatever you
need, just let me know!

You are not alone.

[Pablo Barrera]

As u see silvio!, u are not alone :-)
Regards

P.

2008/7/31 Juan M. Rodriguez
> 2008/7/31 RazGriz
>
> Hi,
> > i wanna help too =].
> >
> > 2008/7/31 Neo Reeves
> >
> > Silvio,
> > > I am one of the Ambassador for Maldives. And if you need any help from me
> > > let me know. I'll be there, but remember I don't speak or write Portugal.
> > >
> > > Just shoot when you need me. I really appreciate people like you.
> > > Sameeh
> > >
> > > 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera
> > >
> > > Hi Silvio
> > > > ( Yes Im back for good ) :-)
> > > >
> > > > Some points that can help u, about my personal experience...
> > > >
> > > > 2008/7/31 Sílvio Reis
> > > > > What is our role as ambassadors?
> > > > > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> > > > > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> > > > > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least
> > > > > in Portugal.
> > > > > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> > > > > project Fedora Portugal.
> > > > > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
> > > > > participate in the website.
> > > >
> > > > Normally in our regions....really normally...
> > > > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> > > > > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this
> > > > > adventure, *should I start the project without any support? *
> > > >
> > > > At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice
> > > > of Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions.
> > > > When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an
> > > > oportunity to "make the difference".
> > > >
> > > > A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and
> > > > reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy.
> > > > Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon or
> > > > later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to
> > > > people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an
> > > > enourmus task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the
> > > > main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed.
> > > > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as
> > > > > Eunir Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo
> > > > > Padula.
> > > >
> > > > Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know
> > > > that he will help you whenever he will be.
> > > > > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and
> > > > > just does not have a community.
> > > > > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
> > > >
> > > > Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web
> > > > site could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on
> > > > Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site
> > > > building...
> > > > > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> > > > > translate the Fedora.
> > > > > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating
> > > > > next month.
> > > > > The question is: who will be there?
> > > >
> > > > The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in Portugal.
> > > > Do not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors could help
> > > > u, but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can start the
> > > > project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site is the
> > > > firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to
> > > > newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora
> > > > Argentina in 2006, i was alone.
> > > > > That is why I ask your opinion:
> > > > > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of
> > > > > another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?*
> > > >
> > > > Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their silence
> > > > is not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems, or
> > > > other issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal
> > > > opinion, anyway.
> > > >
> > > > A good start could be mount the website....
> > > > Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora
> > > > HispaAmerica :-)
> > > >
> > > > Nice to be here again.....
> > > > Fedorize! yourself
> > > >
> > > > P.
> > > > > Sílvio Reis
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.projectofedora.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > > > [e-mail]
> > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> > >
> > > --
> > > .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> >
> > --
> > RazGriz
> > The Solo_-Wing.
> > Diretor de Arte
> > GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org
> > 2 Tons Comunicação
> > Revista Fedora Brasil
> > Portal O-Gimp
> > -=-=:Quem constrói a realidade é você.
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> Count me in too.
>
> I currently administrate the ProyectoFedora.org Website, so whatever you
> need, just let me know!
>
> You are not alone.
>
> --
> Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno
> Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos
> Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico
>
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[RazGriz]

+1

and Pablo... and about Latinoware?

you will come this year too, right? =] See you there

2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera
> As u see silvio!, u are not alone :-)
> Regards
>
> P.
>
> 2008/7/31 Juan M. Rodriguez
> > 2008/7/31 RazGriz
> >
> > Hi,
> > > i wanna help too =].
> > >
> > > 2008/7/31 Neo Reeves
> > >
> > > Silvio,
> > > > I am one of the Ambassador for Maldives. And if you need any help from
> > > > me let me know. I'll be there, but remember I don't speak or write Portugal.
> > > >
> > > > Just shoot when you need me. I really appreciate people like you.
> > > > Sameeh
> > > >
> > > > 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera
> > > >
> > > > Hi Silvio
> > > > > ( Yes Im back for good ) :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Some points that can help u, about my personal experience...
> > > > >
> > > > > 2008/7/31 Sílvio Reis
> > > > > > What is our role as ambassadors?
> > > > > > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> > > > > > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> > > > > > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least
> > > > > > in Portugal.
> > > > > > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> > > > > > project Fedora Portugal.
> > > > > > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions
> > > > > > to participate in the website.
> > > > >
> > > > > Normally in our regions....really normally...
> > > > > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> > > > > > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this
> > > > > > adventure, *should I start the project without any support? *
> > > > >
> > > > > At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice
> > > > > of Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions.
> > > > > When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an
> > > > > oportunity to "make the difference".
> > > > >
> > > > > A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and
> > > > > reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy.
> > > > > Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon or
> > > > > later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to
> > > > > people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an
> > > > > enourmus task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the
> > > > > main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed.
> > > > > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as
> > > > > > Eunir Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo
> > > > > > Padula.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know
> > > > > that he will help you whenever he will be.
> > > > > > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and
> > > > > > just does not have a community.
> > > > > > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
> > > > >
> > > > > Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web
> > > > > site could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on
> > > > > Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site
> > > > > building...
> > > > > > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> > > > > > translate the Fedora.
> > > > > > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating
> > > > > > next month.
> > > > > > The question is: who will be there?
> > > > >
> > > > > The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in
> > > > > Portugal. Do not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors
> > > > > could help u, but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can
> > > > > start the project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site
> > > > > is the firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to
> > > > > newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora
> > > > > Argentina in 2006, i was alone.
> > > > > > That is why I ask your opinion:
> > > > > > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of
> > > > > > another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?*
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their
> > > > > silence is not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems,
> > > > > or other issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal
> > > > > opinion, anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > A good start could be mount the website....
> > > > > Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora
> > > > > HispaAmerica :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice to be here again.....
> > > > > Fedorize! yourself
> > > > >
> > > > > P.
> > > > > > Sílvio Reis
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.projectofedora.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > > > > [e-mail]
> > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > > > [e-mail]
> > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> > >
> > > --
> > > RazGriz
> > > The Solo_-Wing.
> > > Diretor de Arte
> > > GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org
> > > 2 Tons Comunicação
> > > Revista Fedora Brasil
> > > Portal O-Gimp
> > > -=-=:Quem constrói a realidade é você.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> >
> > Count me in too.
> >
> > I currently administrate the ProyectoFedora.org Website, so whatever you
> > need, just let me know!
> >
> > You are not alone.
> >
> > --
> > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno
> > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos
> > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> --
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> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

[Pablo Barrera]

+5 +6 +7 and help counting.... hands on the work for freedom :-)

2008/7/31 RazGriz
> +1
>
> and Pablo... and about Latinoware?

Ill hope so, as u know, i am back with no sponsor this year. If ill find
some sponsorship i wil go for sure.
Anyway, i was talking with Latinoware people about my presence. As I always
says: ( God ) universe will bring us the
resources :-)
> you will come this year too, right? =] See you there

Regards
P.
> 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera
> > As u see silvio!, u are not alone :-)
> > Regards
> >
> > P.
> >
> > 2008/7/31 Juan M. Rodriguez
> > > 2008/7/31 RazGriz
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > > i wanna help too =].
> > > >
> > > > 2008/7/31 Neo Reeves
> > > >
> > > > Silvio,
> > > > > I am one of the Ambassador for Maldives. And if you need any help from
> > > > > me let me know. I'll be there, but remember I don't speak or write Portugal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just shoot when you need me. I really appreciate people like you.
> > > > > Sameeh
> > > > >
> > > > > 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Silvio
> > > > > > ( Yes Im back for good ) :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some points that can help u, about my personal experience...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2008/7/31 Sílvio Reis
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is our role as ambassadors?
> > > > > > > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> > > > > > > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> > > > > > > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at
> > > > > > > least in Portugal.
> > > > > > > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for
> > > > > > > the project Fedora Portugal.
> > > > > > > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions
> > > > > > > to participate in the website.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Normally in our regions....really normally...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> > > > > > > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this
> > > > > > > adventure, *should I start the project without any support? *
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice
> > > > > > of Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions.
> > > > > > When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an
> > > > > > oportunity to "make the difference".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and
> > > > > > reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy.
> > > > > > Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon
> > > > > > or later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to
> > > > > > people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an
> > > > > > enourmus task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the
> > > > > > main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as
> > > > > > > Eunir Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo
> > > > > > > Padula.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know
> > > > > > that he will help you whenever he will be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and
> > > > > > > just does not have a community.
> > > > > > > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web
> > > > > > site could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on
> > > > > > Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site
> > > > > > building...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> > > > > > > translate the Fedora.
> > > > > > > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start
> > > > > > > operating next month.
> > > > > > > The question is: who will be there?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in
> > > > > > Portugal. Do not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors
> > > > > > could help u, but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can
> > > > > > start the project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site
> > > > > > is the firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to
> > > > > > newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora
> > > > > > Argentina in 2006, i was alone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That is why I ask your opinion:
> > > > > > > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of
> > > > > > > another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their
> > > > > > silence is not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems,
> > > > > > or other issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal
> > > > > > opinion, anyway.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A good start could be mount the website....
> > > > > > Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora
> > > > > > HispaAmerica :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nice to be here again.....
> > > > > > Fedorize! yourself
> > > > > >
> > > > > > P.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sílvio Reis
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.projectofedora.org/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > > > > > [e-mail]
> > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > > > > [e-mail]
> > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > > > [e-mail]
> > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > RazGriz
> > > > The Solo_-Wing.
> > > > Diretor de Arte
> > > > GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org
> > > > 2 Tons Comunicação
> > > > Revista Fedora Brasil
> > > > Portal O-Gimp
> > > > -=-=:Quem constrói a realidade é você.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> > >
> > > Count me in too.
> > >
> > > I currently administrate the ProyectoFedora.org Website, so whatever you
> > > need, just let me know!
> > >
> > > You are not alone.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno
> > > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos
> > > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> --
> RazGriz
> The Solo_-Wing.
> Diretor de Arte
> GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org
> 2 Tons Comunicação
> Revista Fedora Brasil
> Portal O-Gimp
> -=-=:Quem constrói a realidade é você.
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

[wonderer]

Sílvio Reis schrieb:
> What is our role as ambassadors?
> I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least 
> in Portugal.
> As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the 
> project Fedora Portugal.
> The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions 
> to participate in the website.
>
> More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this 
> adventure, *should I start the project without any support? *

I don't think so. as some said before YOU ARE NOT ALONE. As you can see 
there are many helping hands here. I also can get you in contact with 
uni.lu and TUDOR. There you can place permanent Posters, Flyers, etc.
You see, there are many infos that will come...
> The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as 
> Eunir Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo 
> Padula.
> In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and 
> just does not have a community.
> So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.

Here I want to ask you to use existing Ressources as long as there is no 
need for it. You mentioned that you are at this time ONE Ambassador. How 
many "Users" or people are "around" you? Or can you imagine how many 
this would be? Why do you need another wiki and another Community Site? 
Is there REALLY a need for it?
Maybe you can ask the Webmaster of http://www.fedoraforum.org/ if he can 
put in another section for Luxemburg. I think you have a Fedora Account, 
so you can put up under your wiki-Site some facts or Links to the facts 
in the wiki. That can be a first shot of a Startingpoint. Then as 
mentioned a little project or event and look how many people come.
> We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to 
> translate the Fedora.
> With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating 
> next month.
> The question is: who will be there?
> That is why I ask your opinion:
> *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of 
> another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?*

As I said: If i would do such a thing I would look wich ressources I can 
allready use for a first start. Think of our 4-Foundations: 
*http://tinyurl.com/5ft5qa *Then the rest will come ... as you can see 
here ;-)

best regards
Henrik Heigl - [e-mail]

[María Leandro]

/me add to list

I'm an Ambassador from Venezuela and join me to the list!

I'm good with graphics and that stuff. (websites image maybe) so I coul help
you to :D.
(but you will have to write me the things to put in the banners because I
don't speak your native languaje jojojo)

Don't feel bad... Neil was the first man over the moon... why can you be the
first Fedora ruler of Portugal?
;)

2008/8/1 [e-mail]
> Sílvio Reis schrieb:
>
> What is our role as ambassadors?
> I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in
> Portugal.
> As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> project Fedora Portugal.
> The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
> participate in the website.
>
> More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this adventure,
> *should I start the project without any support? *
>
> I don't think so. as some said before YOU ARE NOT ALONE. As you can see
> there are many helping hands here. I also can get you in contact with
> uni.lu and TUDOR. There you can place permanent Posters, Flyers, etc.
> You see, there are many infos that will come...
>
> The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir
> Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula.
> In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and just
> does not have a community.
> So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
>
> Here I want to ask you to use existing Ressources as long as there is no
> need for it. You mentioned that you are at this time ONE Ambassador. How
> many "Users" or people are "around" you? Or can you imagine how many this
> would be? Why do you need another wiki and another Community Site? Is there
> REALLY a need for it?
> Maybe you can ask the Webmaster of http://www.fedoraforum.org/ if he can
> put in another section for Luxemburg. I think you have a Fedora Account, so
> you can put up under your wiki-Site some facts or Links to the facts in the
> wiki. That can be a first shot of a Startingpoint. Then as mentioned a
> little project or event and look how many people come.
>
> We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> translate the Fedora.
> With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating next
> month.
> The question is: who will be there?
> That is why I ask your opinion:
> *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another
> 5 Portuguese ambassadors?*
>
> As I said: If i would do such a thing I would look wich ressources I can
> allready use for a first start. Think of our 4-Foundations: *
> http://tinyurl.com/5ft5qa *Then the rest will come ... as you can see here
> ;-)
>
> best regards
> Henrik Heigl - [e-mail]
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

[Francesco Ugolini]

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Sílvio Reis wrote:
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:44:27 +0200
> From: Sílvio Reis 
> Reply-To: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors?
>
> What is our role as ambassadors?
> I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in
> Portugal.
> As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> project Fedora Portugal.
> The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
> participate in the website.
>
> More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this
> adventure, *should
> I start the project without any support? *
>
> The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir
> Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula.
> In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and just
> does not have a community.
> So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
> We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> translate the Fedora.
> With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating next
> month.
> The question is: who will be there?
> That is why I ask your opinion:
> *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another 5
> Portuguese ambassadors?*
>
> Sílvio Reis
>
> http://www.projectofedora.org/

Ambassadors are people coming from different experiences that work 
promoting Fedora around the world, joining events (e.g. LUG meeting, Linux 
events etc...), talking with people.

Your role as ambassador it to represent Fedora in your city, in your state 
and wherever you are. It's an important role.

You are disappointed because the other people don't help in the site, I 
think this isn't a problem, everyone help in his own way, so if someone 
prefer to work in a specific field s/he is free to do this, don't worry.

The translation and general localization is one of the most important 
challanges we are facing, and I'm sure what you are doing and what many 
other people are doing translating/writing contents is important. Just 
talk with people and search for new contributors, I'm sure it would the 
best way.

Hoping to give the answer

Regards

Francesco Ugolini

[Eunir Augusto]

Francesco Ugolini, I'm with Silvio structuring the site in Portugal, but
give me your opinion: you think more important to translate the main project
Portuguese Lusitanian than start a site in Portugal?

2008/7/31 Francesco Ugolini
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Sílvio Reis wrote:
>
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:44:27 +0200
> > From: Sílvio Reis 
> > Reply-To: [e-mail]
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors?
> >
> > What is our role as ambassadors?
> > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in
> > Portugal.
> > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> > project Fedora Portugal.
> > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
> > participate in the website.
> >
> > More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this
> > adventure, *should
> > I start the project without any support? *
> >
> > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir
> > Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula.
> > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and just
> > does not have a community.
> > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
> > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> > translate the Fedora.
> > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating
> > next
> > month.
> > The question is: who will be there?
> > That is why I ask your opinion:
> > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another
> > 5
> > Portuguese ambassadors?*
> >
> > Sílvio Reis
> >
> > http://www.projectofedora.org/
>
> Ambassadors are people coming from different experiences that work
> promoting Fedora around the world, joining events (e.g. LUG meeting, Linux
> events etc...), talking with people.
>
> Your role as ambassador it to represent Fedora in your city, in your state
> and wherever you are. It's an important role.
>
> You are disappointed because the other people don't help in the site, I
> think this isn't a problem, everyone help in his own way, so if someone
> prefer to work in a specific field s/he is free to do this, don't worry.
>
> The translation and general localization is one of the most important
> challanges we are facing, and I'm sure what you are doing and what many
> other people are doing translating/writing contents is important. Just talk
> with people and search for new contributors, I'm sure it would the best way.
>
> Hoping to give the answer
>
> Regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
>
> --
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[Sílvio Reis]

Thank you all for the support.
We will start the web site very soon with a hope than more portuguese people
will join us in the future.
There is a lot of a work and many batles to fight, but i will do my best.
Again thank you all for the words.
Thank you Pablo Barrera! I know what you did in Argentina - your words mean
a lot to me!
2008/8/1 Eunir Augusto
> Francesco Ugolini, I'm with Silvio structuring the site in Portugal, but
> give me your opinion: you think more important to translate the main project
> Portuguese Lusitanian than start a site in Portugal?
>
> 2008/7/31 Francesco Ugolini
> > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Sílvio Reis wrote:
> >
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:44:27 +0200
> > > From: Sílvio Reis 
> > > Reply-To: [e-mail]
> > > To: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as
> > > ambassadors?
> > >
> > > What is our role as ambassadors?
> > > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> > > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> > > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in
> > > Portugal.
> > > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> > > project Fedora Portugal.
> > > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
> > > participate in the website.
> > >
> > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> > > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this
> > > adventure, *should
> > > I start the project without any support? *
> > >
> > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir
> > > Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula.
> > > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and
> > > just
> > > does not have a community.
> > > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
> > > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> > > translate the Fedora.
> > > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating
> > > next
> > > month.
> > > The question is: who will be there?
> > > That is why I ask your opinion:
> > > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another
> > > 5
> > > Portuguese ambassadors?*
> > >
> > > Sílvio Reis
> > >
> > > http://www.projectofedora.org/
> >
> > Ambassadors are people coming from different experiences that work
> > promoting Fedora around the world, joining events (e.g. LUG meeting, Linux
> > events etc...), talking with people.
> >
> > Your role as ambassador it to represent Fedora in your city, in your state
> > and wherever you are. It's an important role.
> >
> > You are disappointed because the other people don't help in the site, I
> > think this isn't a problem, everyone help in his own way, so if someone
> > prefer to work in a specific field s/he is free to do this, don't worry.
> >
> > The translation and general localization is one of the most important
> > challanges we are facing, and I'm sure what you are doing and what many
> > other people are doing translating/writing contents is important. Just talk
> > with people and search for new contributors, I'm sure it would the best way.
> >
> > Hoping to give the answer
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Francesco Ugolini
> >
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[Pablo Barrera]

Saludos Silvio

2008/8/1 Sílvio Reis
> Thank you all for the support.
> We will start the web site very soon with a hope than more portuguese
> people will join us in the future.
> There is a lot of a work and many batles to fight, but i will do my best.
> Again thank you all for the words.
> Thank you Pablo Barrera! I know what you did in Argentina - your words mean
> a lot to me!

No problema irmao, eu posse aportar no segunda da cada semana um tempo
horario gtm -3 pra o projeto portugal :)
Brigado por sua confiança

Saludos
P.
> 2008/8/1 Eunir Augusto
>
> Francesco Ugolini, I'm with Silvio structuring the site in Portugal, but
> > give me your opinion: you think more important to translate the main project
> > Portuguese Lusitanian than start a site in Portugal?
> >
> > 2008/7/31 Francesco Ugolini
> > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Sílvio Reis wrote:
> > >
> > > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:44:27 +0200
> > > > From: Sílvio Reis 
> > > > Reply-To: [e-mail]
> > > > To: [e-mail]
> > > > Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as
> > > > ambassadors?
> > > >
> > > > What is our role as ambassadors?
> > > > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> > > > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> > > > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least
> > > > in
> > > > Portugal.
> > > > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> > > > project Fedora Portugal.
> > > > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
> > > > participate in the website.
> > > >
> > > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> > > > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this
> > > > adventure, *should
> > > > I start the project without any support? *
> > > >
> > > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir
> > > > Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula.
> > > > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and
> > > > just
> > > > does not have a community.
> > > > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
> > > > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> > > > translate the Fedora.
> > > > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating
> > > > next
> > > > month.
> > > > The question is: who will be there?
> > > > That is why I ask your opinion:
> > > > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of
> > > > another 5
> > > > Portuguese ambassadors?*
> > > >
> > > > Sílvio Reis
> > > >
> > > > http://www.projectofedora.org/
> > >
> > > Ambassadors are people coming from different experiences that work
> > > promoting Fedora around the world, joining events (e.g. LUG meeting, Linux
> > > events etc...), talking with people.
> > >
> > > Your role as ambassador it to represent Fedora in your city, in your
> > > state and wherever you are. It's an important role.
> > >
> > > You are disappointed because the other people don't help in the site, I
> > > think this isn't a problem, everyone help in his own way, so if someone
> > > prefer to work in a specific field s/he is free to do this, don't worry.
> > >
> > > The translation and general localization is one of the most important
> > > challanges we are facing, and I'm sure what you are doing and what many
> > > other people are doing translating/writing contents is important. Just talk
> > > with people and search for new contributors, I'm sure it would the best way.
> > >
> > > Hoping to give the answer
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Francesco Ugolini
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> >
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> Sílvio Reis
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[Francesco Ugolini]

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Eunir Augusto wrote:
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:10:46 -0300
> From: Eunir Augusto 
> Reply-To: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors?
>
> Francesco Ugolini, I'm with Silvio structuring the site in Portugal, but
> give me your opinion: you think more important to translate the main project
> Portuguese Lusitanian than start a site in Portugal?
>
> 2008/7/31 Francesco Ugolini
> > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Sílvio Reis wrote:
> >
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:44:27 +0200
> > > From: Sílvio Reis 
> > > Reply-To: [e-mail]
> > > To: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors?
> > >
> > > What is our role as ambassadors?
> > > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> > > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> > > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in
> > > Portugal.
> > > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> > > project Fedora Portugal.
> > > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
> > > participate in the website.
> > >
> > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> > > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this
> > > adventure, *should
> > > I start the project without any support? *
> > >
> > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir
> > > Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula.
> > > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and just
> > > does not have a community.
> > > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
> > > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> > > translate the Fedora.
> > > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating
> > > next
> > > month.
> > > The question is: who will be there?
> > > That is why I ask your opinion:
> > > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another
> > > 5
> > > Portuguese ambassadors?*
> > >
> > > Sílvio Reis
> > >
> > > http://www.projectofedora.org/
> >
> > Ambassadors are people coming from different experiences that work
> > promoting Fedora around the world, joining events (e.g. LUG meeting, Linux
> > events etc...), talking with people.
> >
> > Your role as ambassador it to represent Fedora in your city, in your state
> > and wherever you are. It's an important role.
> >
> > You are disappointed because the other people don't help in the site, I
> > think this isn't a problem, everyone help in his own way, so if someone
> > prefer to work in a specific field s/he is free to do this, don't worry.
> >
> > The translation and general localization is one of the most important
> > challanges we are facing, and I'm sure what you are doing and what many
> > other people are doing translating/writing contents is important. Just talk
> > with people and search for new contributors, I'm sure it would the best way.
> >
> > Hoping to give the answer
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Francesco Ugolini
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list

The first goal is to talk with people around us (around you too), 
so I think you have to work on the way "all you" think it's the better 
one.

If everyone want to help provide a service you could join the forces
and try to find a compromise. Maybe create content in Portugese and then 
if someone want to translate them in Portugese Lusitanian (according to 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusitanian_language it's considered an 
extincted language) he could be able to do that. I don't want to say 
that someone is wrong because everyone here comes with a different 
background and has different perspectives for this experience.

Hope to have answered your question

Best regards

Francesco Ugolini

[Eunir Augusto]

I understand his point of view, Francesco Ugolini.

Thank you.

2008/8/1 Francesco Ugolini
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Eunir Augusto wrote:
>
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:10:46 -0300
> > From: Eunir Augusto 
> > Reply-To: [e-mail]
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as
> > ambassadors?
> >
> > Francesco Ugolini, I'm with Silvio structuring the site in Portugal, but
> > give me your opinion: you think more important to translate the main
> > project
> > Portuguese Lusitanian than start a site in Portugal?
> >
> > 2008/7/31 Francesco Ugolini
> > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Sílvio Reis wrote:
> > >
> > > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:44:27 +0200
> > > > From: Sílvio Reis 
> > > > Reply-To: [e-mail]
> > > > To: [e-mail]
> > > > Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as
> > > > ambassadors?
> > > >
> > > > What is our role as ambassadors?
> > > > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong?
> > > > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal.
> > > > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least
> > > > in
> > > > Portugal.
> > > > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the
> > > > project Fedora Portugal.
> > > > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to
> > > > participate in the website.
> > > >
> > > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer.
> > > > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this
> > > > adventure, *should
> > > > I start the project without any support? *
> > > >
> > > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir
> > > > Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula.
> > > > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and
> > > > just
> > > > does not have a community.
> > > > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki.
> > > > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to
> > > > translate the Fedora.
> > > > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating
> > > > next
> > > > month.
> > > > The question is: who will be there?
> > > > That is why I ask your opinion:
> > > > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of
> > > > another
> > > > 5
> > > > Portuguese ambassadors?*
> > > >
> > > > Sílvio Reis
> > > >
> > > > http://www.projectofedora.org/
> > > >
> > > > Ambassadors are people coming from different experiences that work
> > >
> > > promoting Fedora around the world, joining events (e.g. LUG meeting,
> > > Linux
> > > events etc...), talking with people.
> > >
> > > Your role as ambassador it to represent Fedora in your city, in your
> > > state
> > > and wherever you are. It's an important role.
> > >
> > > You are disappointed because the other people don't help in the site, I
> > > think this isn't a problem, everyone help in his own way, so if someone
> > > prefer to work in a specific field s/he is free to do this, don't worry.
> > >
> > > The translation and general localization is one of the most important
> > > challanges we are facing, and I'm sure what you are doing and what many
> > > other people are doing translating/writing contents is important. Just
> > > talk
> > > with people and search for new contributors, I'm sure it would the best
> > > way.
> > >
> > > Hoping to give the answer
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Francesco Ugolini
> > >
> > > --
> > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> The first goal is to talk with people around us (around you too), so I
> think you have to work on the way "all you" think it's the better one.
>
> If everyone want to help provide a service you could join the forces
> and try to find a compromise. Maybe create content in Portugese and then if
> someone want to translate them in Portugese Lusitanian (according to
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusitanian_language it's considered an
> extincted language) he could be able to do that. I don't want to say that
> someone is wrong because everyone here comes with a different background and
> has different perspectives for this experience.
>
> Hope to have answered your question
>
> Best regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
>
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[Junior Tomazelli]

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