Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
2010/3/28 Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com:
Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
Hi Zoltan!
I made those version independent flyers and you can have them in editable .odt format from the link on the wiki.
I suggest you update them a little, mainly on two points :
* New mailing list * Current "edge" features
Let me know if you need anything more :)
~π
Am 28.03.2010 15:00, schrieb Pierros Papadeas:
2010/3/28 Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com:
Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
Hi Zoltan!
I made those version independent flyers and you can have them in editable .odt format from the link on the wiki.
... and I took the English Version and translated it to german and pasted it into the wiki. I know its maybe a little bit to late for the actual ongoing FAD in Mönchengladbach, my apologies, but hopefully it can be used on some upcoming events. My only change other then translating it was to change the Mailinglist URL. Other suggestions are welcome.
mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer@fedoraproject.org
PGP/GnuPG: 8237 D432 0616 D567 DBC6 3FE3 0D52 B374 F468 A5F0
Thanks guys,
Btw, I'm planning to have all of the marketing stuff translated. I have already do the Fedora Cube, before hunting down my known users next time. Thanks for the german version, I will need it at Vienna, so this wasn't a waste of time. THANKS!!
Pierros, do you know that will be created the famous one page release for F13 too? Maybe we could have that format, and implement it to this. What do you think guys?
2010/3/28 wonderer wonderer4711@gmx.de
Am 28.03.2010 15:00, schrieb Pierros Papadeas:
2010/3/28 Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com:
Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about
Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
Hi Zoltan!
I made those version independent flyers and you can have them in editable .odt format from the link on the wiki.
... and I took the English Version and translated it to german and pasted it into the wiki. I know its maybe a little bit to late for the actual ongoing FAD in Mönchengladbach, my apologies, but hopefully it can be used on some upcoming events. My only change other then translating it was to change the Mailinglist URL. Other suggestions are welcome.
mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer@fedoraproject.org
PGP/GnuPG: 8237 D432 0616 D567 DBC6 3FE3 0D52 B374 F468 A5F0
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
It seems that I'm blind a little. The ODT's were front of my nose...Eh....
2010/3/28 Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com
Thanks guys,
Btw, I'm planning to have all of the marketing stuff translated. I have already do the Fedora Cube, before hunting down my known users next time. Thanks for the german version, I will need it at Vienna, so this wasn't a waste of time. THANKS!!
Pierros, do you know that will be created the famous one page release for F13 too? Maybe we could have that format, and implement it to this. What do you think guys?
2010/3/28 wonderer wonderer4711@gmx.de
Am 28.03.2010 15:00, schrieb Pierros Papadeas:
2010/3/28 Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com:
Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about
Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
Hi Zoltan!
I made those version independent flyers and you can have them in editable .odt format from the link on the wiki.
... and I took the English Version and translated it to german and pasted it into the wiki. I know its maybe a little bit to late for the actual ongoing FAD in Mönchengladbach, my apologies, but hopefully it can be used on some upcoming events. My only change other then translating it was to change the Mailinglist URL. Other suggestions are welcome.
mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer@fedoraproject.org
PGP/GnuPG: 8237 D432 0616 D567 DBC6 3FE3 0D52 B374 F468 A5F0
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
-- PGP: 06853DF7
Hi to everyone!
My name is Arturo and I'd like to translate the flyer to Spanish.
My user is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Arturofernandez and Robert Scheck is going to be my mentor.
Cheers, Arturo.
Welcome Arturo!
Have good translation, and don't forget here mention if you are ready.
Thanks,
Zoltan
2010/3/29 Arturo Fernandez arturofernandezm@gmail.com
Hi to everyone!
My name is Arturo and I'd like to translate the flyer to Spanish.
My user is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Arturofernandez and Robert Scheck is going to be my mentor.
Cheers, Arturo.
-- Arturo Fernandez Software Architect/Arquitecto Software +34 646 885 911 +34 617 605 626 http://www.bsnux.com
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
Hi!
Welcome Arturo!
Thanks!
Have good translation, and don't forget here mention if you are ready.
I'm going to translate this flyer to Spanish from Spain. IMHO Spanish current document sounds different for Spanish people.
Cheers, Arturo.
El lun, 29-03-2010 a las 19:37 +0200, Arturo Fernandez escribió:
[...]
I'm going to translate this flyer to Spanish from Spain. IMHO Spanish current document sounds different for Spanish people.
I agree.
I'm Spanish too, so count on me if you need a hand.
Regards,
Juanjo
I'm Spanish too, so count on me if you need a hand.
OK! Thanks! I'll send you tomorrow an initial version for reviewing.
Cheers, Arturo.
Hi!
Have good translation, and don't forget here mention if you are ready.
I'm ready. I've got the flyer in es-ES in ODT format. Where I can upload this file for reviewing?
Cheers, Arturo.
Hi Arturo,
Just uplad it here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
Zoltan
2010/3/30 Arturo Fernandez arturofernandezm@gmail.com
Hi!
Have good translation, and don't forget here mention if you are ready.
I'm ready. I've got the flyer in es-ES in ODT format. Where I can upload this file for reviewing?
Cheers, Arturo.
-- Arturo Fernandez Software Architect/Arquitecto Software +34 646 885 911 +34 617 605 626 http://www.bsnux.com
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
Hi,
Hi Arturo,
Just uplad it here:
But I haven't public space at fedorapeople.org yet to upload the ODT file. Can I use other server using this wiki page to link it?
Best regards, Arturo.
Then send it to me here. I will upload it.
Z
2010/3/30 Arturo Fernandez arturofernandezm@gmail.com
Hi,
Hi Arturo,
Just uplad it here:
But I haven't public space at fedorapeople.org yet to upload the ODT file. Can I use other server using this wiki page to link it?
Best regards, Arturo.
-- Arturo Fernandez Software Architect/Arquitecto Software +34 646 885 911 +34 617 605 626 http://www.bsnux.com
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
Btw, you don't need to have that space. The files aren't stored in ambassadors space. They are stored in wiki.
2010/3/30 Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com
Then send it to me here. I will upload it.
Z
2010/3/30 Arturo Fernandez arturofernandezm@gmail.com
Hi,
Hi Arturo,
Just uplad it here:
But I haven't public space at fedorapeople.org yet to upload the ODT file. Can I use other server using this wiki page to link it?
Best regards, Arturo.
-- Arturo Fernandez Software Architect/Arquitecto Software +34 646 885 911 +34 617 605 626 http://www.bsnux.com
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
-- PGP: 06853DF7
2010/3/30 Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com:
Then send it to me here. I will upload it.
Or just upload it to the wiki?
By the way, could we please try to apply the mailing lists guidelines? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
The point about top-posting is the one that is the most often forgotten, fellow ambassadors, let's try to be more disciplined.:)
Best regards,
---------- Mathieu Bridon
Am Sonntag, den 28.03.2010, 16:39 +0200 schrieb wonderer:
I know its maybe a little bit to late for the actual ongoing FAD in Mönchengladbach, my apologies, but hopefully it can be used on some upcoming events.
The FAD at Mönchengladbach was targeting developers and they all know what Fedora is. ;) No need to hesitate.
Regards, Christoph
P.S.: I will publish an event report later tonight.
Hi!
Great job. It is important to have those flyers, but I have just one more thing to put in consideration here.
Why don't we say more clearly that Fedora is alternative to Windows or Mac OS?
People might get bit confused if we just say it is an operating system based on Linux. There are a huge group of people out there who does not understand what is an operating system. They know Windows and they may know Mac or Linux (as one system), but they are not familiar with Fedora brand/"trade-mark".
I think we should say more clearly the whole thing. Like:
"Fedora Linux OS" or "Linux Fedora OS".
Also I think we should say everywhere that it is _free_ alternative to Windows and OSX. I think this is the only way to get Fedora more known within "ordinary" and "non-tech" people.
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Jukka Palander jukka@devspain.com wrote:
Hi!
Great job. It is important to have those flyers, but I have just one more thing to put in consideration here.
Why don't we say more clearly that Fedora is alternative to Windows or Mac OS?
We would be engaged in a trademark obligation "state the trademark owners" and IMHO the last thing we want to do in a Fedora Flyer is to mention Apple Inc and Mircosoft
People might get bit confused if we just say it is an operating system based on Linux. There are a huge group of people out there who does not understand what is an operating system. They know Windows and they may know Mac or Linux (as one system), but they are not familiar with Fedora brand/"trade-mark".
I think we should say more clearly the whole thing. Like:
"Fedora Linux OS" or "Linux Fedora OS".
Fedora IS an operating system with not "Linux Fedora"or something else...
We are based on GNU/Linux kernel and technologies so we need not to confuse someone with Linux OS Fedora Linux and such things...
Also I think we should say everywhere that it is _free_ alternative to Windows and OSX. I think this is the only way to get Fedora more known within "ordinary" and "non-tech" people.
One correction, it is the "free and open source" alternative of *whatever* . Stating simply *free* is wrong (technically, ethically, confusingly etc...)
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:52 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
-- PGP: 06853DF7 -- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 17:26, Pierros Papadeas ppapadeas@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Jukka Palander jukka@devspain.com wrote:
Hi!
Great job. It is important to have those flyers, but I have just one more thing to put in consideration here.
Why don't we say more clearly that Fedora is alternative to Windows or Mac OS?
We would be engaged in a trademark obligation "state the trademark owners" and IMHO the last thing we want to do in a Fedora Flyer is to mention Apple Inc and Mircosoft
Also, being an « alternative » could mean that those 2 are the « norm » and we try to do the same as they do.
We should IMHO strive to be an Operating System of its own, not an alternative to the main OSes.
---------- Mathieu Bridon
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 18:26 +0300, Pierros Papadeas wrote:
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Jukka Palander jukka@devspain.com wrote:
Hi!
Great job. It is important to have those flyers, but I have just one more thing to put in consideration here.
Why don't we say more clearly that Fedora is alternative to Windows or Mac OS?
We would be engaged in a trademark obligation "state the trademark owners" and IMHO the last thing we want to do in a Fedora Flyer is to mention Apple Inc and Mircosoft
You have to say those words out loud anyway when you talk with people how does not know what Fedora is!
Or do we start talking politically correct nonsense like: "Fedora is alternative to those other quite popular operating systems, you know what i mean 'wink'"...
People might get bit confused if we just say it is an operating system based on Linux. There are a huge group of people out there who does not understand what is an operating system. They know Windows and they may know Mac or Linux (as one system), but they are not familiar with Fedora brand/"trade-mark".
I think we should say more clearly the whole thing. Like:
"Fedora Linux OS" or "Linux Fedora OS".
Fedora IS an operating system with not "Linux Fedora"or something else...
We are based on GNU/Linux kernel and technologies so we need not to confuse someone with Linux OS Fedora Linux and such things...
Here we go wrong! Nobody is interested of technical details and kernels in user level. As I said before, people generally know what Windows is. Quite many knows what Mac is and somebody may have even heard something like Ubuntu. Anyhow, for most of the people it is the same thing Ubuntu=Linux and (when we explain what Fedora is) Fedora=Linux.
Also I think we should say everywhere that it is _free_ alternative to Windows and OSX. I think this is the only way to get Fedora more known within "ordinary" and "non-tech" people.
One correction, it is the "free and open source" alternative of *whatever* . Stating simply *free* is wrong (technically, ethically, confusingly etc...)
That's right. But now you have to explain people what open source is and what it means!
Guys, keep things simple. It is much easier to sell the Fedora idea forward if we say things more clearly and rip out all technical nonsense. Instead use those words what people are already familiar with (like word "Linux"). That is the only way to push your message through.
I can provide PT_PT (Portuguese Europe) translation if required, and in fact I might need those in a nearby future :)
Where can I share them ?
Nelson.
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:52 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
-- PGP: 06853DF7 -- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
I think the best place where the others. On the wiki. Holy crap - the community hides the translated docs.... heh..
2010/3/28 Nelson Marques 07721@ipam.pt
I can provide PT_PT (Portuguese Europe) translation if required, and in fact I might need those in a nearby future :)
Where can I share them ?
Nelson.
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:52 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
-- PGP: 06853DF7 -- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
-- Nelson Marques 07721@ipam.pt
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
Hy Nelson,
look about 11 lines from here down or follow the white rabbit and feel free to ad your translation...
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
Am 28.03.2010 17:35, schrieb Nelson Marques:
I can provide PT_PT (Portuguese Europe) translation if required, and in fact I might need those in a nearby future :)
Where can I share them ?
Nelson.
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:52 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
-- PGP: 06853DF7
mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer@fedoraproject.org
PGP/GnuPG: 8237 D432 0616 D567 DBC6 3FE3 0D52 B374 F468 A5F0
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 17:49 +0200, wonderer wrote:
Hy Nelson,
look about 11 lines from here down or follow the white rabbit and feel free to ad your translation...
That's what I'm going to do. It's like 80% translated already, but want a couple of people to review it first. I'll also mail this list and marketing list a couple of things I would like to point on the existing texts.
This is actually worst than translation frame buffer devices on kernel :(
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
Am 28.03.2010 17:35, schrieb Nelson Marques:
I can provide PT_PT (Portuguese Europe) translation if required, and in fact I might need those in a nearby future :)
Where can I share them ?
Nelson.
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:52 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
-- PGP: 06853DF7
mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer@fedoraproject.org
PGP/GnuPG: 8237 D432 0616 D567 DBC6 3FE3 0D52 B374 F468 A5F0
I need some help, how do people generate the thumbnails ? I've noticed they are all 1100x800.
In addition I've placed the doc on: http://nmarques.fedorapeople.org/fedora/flyers/fedora-flyer-ind-pt.odt
I've tried some uniformity on links and adapted the links to Portuguese pages when available (like on get-fedora etc).
My handycap now is how to get the screenshots for the images. Anyone can throw me a "beacon of light" ?
nelson.
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 16:35 +0100, Nelson Marques wrote:
I can provide PT_PT (Portuguese Europe) translation if required, and in fact I might need those in a nearby future :)
Where can I share them ?
Nelson.
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:52 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
-- PGP: 06853DF7 -- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Nelson Marques 07721@ipam.pt wrote:
I need some help, how do people generate the thumbnails ? I've noticed they are all 1100x800.
In addition I've placed the doc on: http://nmarques.fedorapeople.org/fedora/flyers/fedora-flyer-ind-pt.odt
I've tried some uniformity on links and adapted the links to Portuguese pages when available (like on get-fedora etc).
My handycap now is how to get the screenshots for the images. Anyone can throw me a "beacon of light" ?
nelson.
Hi Nelson!
As I recall, I did it with GIMP (or possibly Inkscape). Just insert them in .pdf format and then resize them as images. Finally Save them in .png or possibly as .svg (both are OK for our wiki)
Hope this helps :)
~π
ps there might be a "convert" terminal way of doing this kind of thing but I need to look into it
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 16:35 +0100, Nelson Marques wrote:
I can provide PT_PT (Portuguese Europe) translation if required, and in fact I might need those in a nearby future :)
Where can I share them ?
Nelson.
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:52 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
-- PGP: 06853DF7 -- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
-- Nelson Marques 07721@ipam.pt
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 20:24 +0300, Pierros Papadeas wrote:
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Nelson Marques 07721@ipam.pt wrote:
I need some help, how do people generate the thumbnails ? I've noticed they are all 1100x800.
In addition I've placed the doc on: http://nmarques.fedorapeople.org/fedora/flyers/fedora-flyer-ind-pt.odt
I've tried some uniformity on links and adapted the links to Portuguese pages when available (like on get-fedora etc).
My handycap now is how to get the screenshots for the images. Anyone can throw me a "beacon of light" ?
nelson.
Hi Nelson!
As I recall, I did it with GIMP (or possibly Inkscape). Just insert them in .pdf format and then resize them as images. Finally Save them in .png or possibly as .svg (both are OK for our wiki)
Hope this helps :)
Thx, that works fine :)
~π
ps there might be a "convert" terminal way of doing this kind of thing but I need to look into it
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 16:35 +0100, Nelson Marques wrote:
I can provide PT_PT (Portuguese Europe) translation if required, and in fact I might need those in a nearby future :)
Where can I share them ?
Nelson.
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:52 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Hi,
I have an a question: this page [1] contains an general flyer about Fedora.
Is it possible to have it somehow editable / translatable format?
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer
-- PGP: 06853DF7 -- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
-- Nelson Marques 07721@ipam.pt
-- ambassadors mailing list ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ambassadors
ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org