Data on Fedora usage

[Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail]

Hi guys,

I'm wondering if there is a way for me to get raw anonymized (hashed IPs or
something) logs of people using Fedora around the world?. Eg: download logs
with origin country or something.

Is this data opened up? .. Having this as open data I think can help in
determining impact of activities.

Thanks.

[Justin W. Flory]

On 07/11/2016 07:17 AM, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm wondering if there is a way for me to get raw anonymized (hashed IPs
> or something) logs of people using Fedora around the world?. Eg:
> download logs with origin country or something.
>
> Is this data opened up? .. Having this as open data I think can help in
> determining impact of activities.
>
> Thanks.

Hello! I think this is a good question to ask, and you're also 
definitely not the first.

There are certain things Fedora is able to discern and some things that 
are not available to us, in order to preserve user's privacy. At the end 
of the day, preserving the privacy of the user is the number one 
priority and comes before all else. For this reason, we don't collect 
information such as hashed IP addresses from systems actively running 
Fedora, or even counters of how many active installations there are.

However, there are some things that we are able to discern. I know one 
example of this is the number of yum/dnf connections made to Fedora 
repositories. While not the best or even the most consistent way of 
measuring growth or popularity, it can serve as a good indicator, and 
doesn't violate the privacy of users.

Fedora Project Leader Matthew Miller presented with some of this data in 
his "State of Fedora" talk at Flock 2015 (and also some other 
conferences after). You can see more information about his talk and this 
information at the following pages.

https://fedoramagazine.org/state-fedora-2015-edition/

https://mattdm.org/fedora/2016devconf/

As for where to find or access this specific information, I wouldn't be 
able to advise. You could try asking on the Fedora Infrastructure 
mailing list or asking in #fedora-admin on freenode IRC.

Hope this helps answer some of your questions. :)

--
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
[e-mail]

[Andrew Ward]

We need to be really careful with this. Although Microsoft does this you 
also agree to their license and its usage. To remain open and free when 
you start collecting data you breach that same trust and open source. 
When you link something to collect data you must also inform the 
customer that you are doing so, this may have some negative effects on 
distribution and usage. I have in the past and still do have a written 
survey on how they heard of us, do they use the product, what release, 
etc. The same survey does not require contact information unless they 
wish to be involved.  What I am trying to say is since there is no user 
license agreement or user statement that informs the customer that you 
are doing so, it will breach privacy of the user, and possibly loose the 
customer from using the product. Just be careful with this, you may want 
to check with the legal folks prior to attempting to collect information.

On 7/18/2016 11:56 AM, Justin W. Flory wrote:
> On 07/11/2016 07:17 AM, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I'm wondering if there is a way for me to get raw anonymized (hashed IPs
> > or something) logs of people using Fedora around the world?. Eg:
> > download logs with origin country or something.
> >
> > Is this data opened up? .. Having this as open data I think can help in
> > determining impact of activities.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Hello! I think this is a good question to ask, and you're also 
> definitely not the first.
>
> There are certain things Fedora is able to discern and some things 
> that are not available to us, in order to preserve user's privacy. At 
> the end of the day, preserving the privacy of the user is the number 
> one priority and comes before all else. For this reason, we don't 
> collect information such as hashed IP addresses from systems actively 
> running Fedora, or even counters of how many active installations 
> there are.
>
> However, there are some things that we are able to discern. I know one 
> example of this is the number of yum/dnf connections made to Fedora 
> repositories. While not the best or even the most consistent way of 
> measuring growth or popularity, it can serve as a good indicator, and 
> doesn't violate the privacy of users.
>
> Fedora Project Leader Matthew Miller presented with some of this data 
> in his "State of Fedora" talk at Flock 2015 (and also some other 
> conferences after). You can see more information about his talk and 
> this information at the following pages.
> https://fedoramagazine.org/state-fedora-2015-edition/
>
> https://mattdm.org/fedora/2016devconf/
>
> As for where to find or access this specific information, I wouldn't 
> be able to advise. You could try asking on the Fedora Infrastructure 
> mailing list or asking in #fedora-admin on freenode IRC.
>
> Hope this helps answer some of your questions. :)
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Justin W. Flory
> [e-mail]
>
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[Joe Brockmeier]

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> I'm wondering if there is a way for me to get raw anonymized (hashed IPs
> or something) logs of people using Fedora around the world?. Eg: download
> logs with origin country or something.
>
> Is this data opened up? .. Having this as open data I think can help in
> determining impact of activities.

No, we don't provide that. We occasionally provide snapshots of data we
have, but we are not publishing the raw data. As I understand it, there are
no plans to do so. Adding mattdm to list as he may have additional
information.

Best,

jzb

[Edwind Richzendy Contreras Soto]

Fedora don't have stats exactly, but we have some public info about this,
please check:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legacy_statistics
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Metrics
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/stats/

2016-07-11 7:17 GMT-04:00 Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail <[e-mail]
> :
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm wondering if there is a way for me to get raw anonymized (hashed IPs
> or something) logs of people using Fedora around the world?. Eg: download
> logs with origin country or something.
>
> Is this data opened up? .. Having this as open data I think can help in
> determining impact of activities.
>
> Thanks.
>
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> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
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[Matthew Miller]

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 07:17:30PM +0800, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
> I'm wondering if there is a way for me to get raw anonymized (hashed IPs or
> something) logs of people using Fedora around the world?. Eg: download logs
> with origin country or something.
>
> Is this data opened up? .. Having this as open data I think can help in
> determining impact of activities.

We currently don't, largely for privacy reasons. I have access to some
partially-anonymized data and can attempt to answer specific questions
if you like. And as Justin says, I draw on this for my State of Fedora
presentations, and will have an update to that at Flock in a few weeks.
If there's something in particular you'd like me to look into, now's a
great time to suggest it.