Take Away Card

[Brian Exelbierd]

Hi All,

In China I saw these cool business cards used to refer booth visitors
back to the project after they walked away.  I took them to the LATAM
FAD and people there liked them.

A marketing ticket has been opened about the messaging on them - your
comments would be helpful.

https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/255

regards,

bex

[Jukka Palander]

Good, but...

Why we have 2 domain names?

This is completely confusing. We have fedoraproject.org leading to 
getfedora.org and then we still have spins.fedoraproject.org.

Mainly: what is the reason we have getfedora.org at all? Would it be 
much straight forward to shout out just one domain name!

--

Jukka

On 08/08/2017 01:07 PM, Brian Exelbierd wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> In China I saw these cool business cards used to refer booth visitors
> back to the project after they walked away.  I took them to the LATAM
> FAD and people there liked them.
>
> A marketing ticket has been opened about the messaging on them - your
> comments would be helpful.
>
> https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/255
>
> regards,
>
> bex
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[Brian Exelbierd]

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017, at 04:49 PM, Jukka Palander wrote:
> Good, but...
>
> Why we have 2 domain names?
>
> This is completely confusing. We have fedoraproject.org leading to 
> getfedora.org and then we still have spins.fedoraproject.org.

The benefit of the lower "fedoraproject.org" was that you could add the
word spins to the front to make it that if your particular conversation
went in that direction.  But you could also add "docs" or "wiki"
followed by "/awesomepage".

The idea is that the card is a reminder of a particular conversation if
needed but also a generically useful takeaway.
> Mainly: what is the reason we have getfedora.org at all? Would it be 
> much straight forward to shout out just one domain name!

I can easily see that too!

regards,

bex
> --
>
> Jukka
>
> On 08/08/2017 01:07 PM, Brian Exelbierd wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > In China I saw these cool business cards used to refer booth visitors
> > back to the project after they walked away.  I took them to the LATAM
> > FAD and people there liked them.
> >
> > A marketing ticket has been opened about the messaging on them - your
> > comments would be helpful.
> >
> > https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/255
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > bex
> > _______________________________________________
> > ambassadors mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
>
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[Robert Mayr]

Il 08/ago/2017 04:49 PM, "Jukka Palander"  ha scritto:

Good, but...

Why we have 2 domain names?

I see just getfedora.org and join.fedoraproject.org, and both have a
description beside to understand what they are for.

This is completely confusing. We have fedoraproject.org leading to
getfedora.org and then we still have spins.fedoraproject.org.

I don't see this as confusing at all.
fedoraproject.org domains and/or subdomains are used for all websites and
apps we have.
getfedora.org http://getfedora.org.org is thought to be a brochure
website, where people come just to get the OS. We have some more
information there, but without wanting to change the main goal of that
website.

Mainly: what is the reason we have getfedora.org at all? Would it be much
straight forward to shout out just one domain name!

Actually we don't use fedoraproject.org, but we could in the future. Also,
what is the pro to drop a domain? I don't see it, and users are not
affected at all. They just get redirected.

Regards.

--
Robert Mayr
(robyduck)

--

Jukka

On 08/08/2017 01:07 PM, Brian Exelbierd wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> In China I saw these cool business cards used to refer booth visitors
> back to the project after they walked away.  I took them to the LATAM
> FAD and people there liked them.
>
> A marketing ticket has been opened about the messaging on them - your
> comments would be helpful.
>
> https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/255
>
> regards,
>
> bex
> _______________________________________________
> ambassadors mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

_______________________________________________
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To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

[Jukka Palander]

On 08/08/2017 05:43 PM, Robert Mayr wrote:
> Il 08/ago/2017 04:49 PM, "Jukka Palander" <[e-mail] 
> > ha scritto:
> Good, but...
>
>
> Why we have 2 domain names?
>
>
> I see just getfedora.org http://getfedora.org and 
> join.fedoraproject.org http://join.fedoraproject.org, and both have 
> a description beside to understand what they are for.
> This is completely confusing. We have fedoraproject.org
> <http://fedoraproject.org> leading to getfedora.org
> <http://getfedora.org> and then we still have
> spins.fedoraproject.org <http://spins.fedoraproject.org>.
>
>
> I don't see this as confusing at all.
> fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org domains and/or subdomains 
> are used for all websites and apps we have.
> getfedora.org http://getfedora.org.org is thought to be a brochure 
> website, where people come just to get the OS. We have some more 
> information there, but without wanting to change the main goal of that 
> website.
> Mainly: what is the reason we have getfedora.org
> <http://getfedora.org> at all? Would it be much straight forward
> to shout out just one domain name!
>
>
> Actually we don't use fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org, 
> but we could in the future. Also, what is the pro to drop a domain? I 
> don't see it, and users are not affected at all. They just get 
> redirected.
>
> Regards.
>
> --
> Robert Mayr
> (robyduck)

Sorry but, yes "we" do use them!

See the spins.fedoraproject.org which is not even redirected (in the 
manner of HTTP, rather it is a subdomain inside the system -without 
seeking if the DNS record points somewhere else).
And also fedoraproject.org _is in use_, only that it it has been 
redirected to getfedora.org does not take away the fact it is used -for 
redirection.

PRO: My opinion is that we should shout out the one and only one name. 
It is the marketing basics! You wouldn't automatically go and seek the 
"getbmw.com" if you have "bmw.com". Instead what is the point of having 
multiple domains in marketing? Rather we should use one and _from there_ 
we could link into another if necessary.

--
Jukka

[Brian Exelbierd]

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017, at 01:49 PM, Jukka Palander wrote:
>
> On 08/08/2017 05:43 PM, Robert Mayr wrote:
> > Il 08/ago/2017 04:49 PM, "Jukka Palander"  ha
> > scritto:>>
> > > Good, but...
> > >
> > > Why we have 2 domain names?
> >
> > I see just getfedora.org and join.fedoraproject.org, and both have a
> > description beside to understand what they are for.>>
> > > This is completely confusing. We havefedoraproject.org leading to
> > > getfedora.org and then we still have spins.fedoraproject.org.>>
> >
> > I don't see this as confusing at all.
> > fedoraproject.org domains and/or subdomains are used for all websites
> > and apps we have.>> getfedora.org[1] is thought to be a brochure website, where people
> > come just to get the OS. We have some more information there, but
> > without wanting to change the main goal of that website.>>
> > > Mainly: what is the reason we havegetfedora.org at all? Would it be
> > > much straight forward to shout out just one domain name!>>
> >
> > Actually we don't use fedoraproject.org, but we could in the future.
> > Also, what is the pro to drop a domain? I don't see it, and users are
> > not affected at all. They just get redirected.>> 
> > Regards.
> >
> > --
> > Robert Mayr 
> > (robyduck)
>
> Sorry but, yes "we" do use them!
>
> See the spins.fedoraproject.org which is not even redirected (in the
>  manner of HTTP, rather it is a subdomain inside the system -without
>  seeking if the DNS record points somewhere else).>  And also fedoraproject.org _is in use_, only that it it has been
>  redirected to getfedora.org does not take away the fact it is used
>  -for redirection.> 
>  PRO: My opinion is that we should shout out the one and only one
>  name. It is the marketing basics! You wouldn't automatically go and
>  seek the "getbmw.com" if you have "bmw.com". Instead what is the
>  point of having multiple domains in marketing? Rather we should use
>  one and _from there_ we could link into another if necessary.

There are some related comments in the ticket,
https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/255 - would you mind responding
to those there so we can keep the discussion from splitting?
regards,

bex

Links:

1. http://getfedora.org.org