On Mon, 2023-11-27 at 14:12 +0100, mkolman(a)redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2023-11-24 at 15:15 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2023-11-21 at 13:34 +0100, Jiri Konecny wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Is Anaconda Initial Setup important for your project or workflow?
> > What
> > functionality is absolutely necessary for you? Do you use the text
> > mode
> > or the graphical mode? Are you aware of any alternatives? Is there
> > anything that would prevent you from migrating to one of the
> > proposed
> > alternatives? Also please feel free to share this mail to any
> > relevant
> > groups.
>
> In addition to the other uses identified: if you do a KDE install and
> set the root password but do not create a user account, i-s will run
> on
> first boot and allow (not sure if it requires) user creation. This is
> probably the case for other non-GNOME desktops too (GNOME uses its
> own
> gnome-initial-setup).
Sure, but is this really necessary on those images ? If it only
triggers if no user account is present only only provides user
creation, what about enforcing user creation at installation time
instead ?
That would simplify the whole thing, as there would be less scenarios
to test/debug/go wrong.
The problem, as always, is different use cases. We want to very
strongly encourage people to create a user before logging in on KDE
installs, as we really don't want people using KDE as root. But for a
small headless install, someone might want to operate as root without a
user account.
Workstation has sorted this out by disabling user/root spokes in the
installer entirely and having its own g-i-s which requires creation of
an admin user, but we don't have anything like that in place for KDE
currently. So we have to try and manage both KDE and e.g. a minimal or
Server install as best we can, using essentially the same workflows.
If someone wants to do some customization for KDE, of course, that
could help.
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