On 02/24/2015 11:22 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:


On 24 February 2015 at 06:01, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:

On 02/24/2015 06:53 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:

Went looking for the flash-plugin for arm, and don't find one.
get.adobe.com/flashplayer thinks I need the i386 version.
afaik none exists. I have heard of versions in the past but they were
tied closely to proprietary X drivers and hardware video acceleration.
and wouldnt work with what is in the fedora kernel. I personally do not
have flash installed on my machines anymore.

What do you do for sites like cnn.com? My bank's home page uses flash, and I
get errors (of course you have flash!) before I can get to the login spot.

Also if I am going to give this system to my parents, they will not know how
to deal with a browser that does not handle flash.
Ultimately what do you expect us to do? This is out of our hands, go
and complain to Adobe.

 Mention alternatives.


Most of the alternatives are tied to the x86_xx platform because the actionscript (what flash runs) was written from an all the world is x86_32 world. There are a lot of hacks that Chrome had to do to get flash sort of working in the google droid and apple completely dropped it from their implementations because it eats battery and heats up the cpu like a furnace. The mozilla alternative is a 80% solution of translating actionscript to javascript but the 20% is usually the stuff you are going to find is being used for some reason on the app. 

What you are running into is what happens when you deal with an alternative architecture. There is going to be whole classes of software that you are not going to be able to work with at some point. In most cases you are going to have to reach out and do more research on google and such because the pool of people inside the channel are usually focused on the 'core' bits versus the 'general experience'. To them the core bits are already taking up all their time and it is what that excited them to work here. General experience areas don't excite them so they don't care if flash, some special java app, etc isn't working.

Understood.  The hope is that as armv7 becomes more 'mainstream', more work will be done for it.

I tested shumway and the first video I go to, on cnn.com supposedly from NASA, is a proprietary, non-standard video format.

ARGH!!  :)

Next I will go to NASA directly, see if the same happens there, and if so, perhaps NASA will be more responsive than I would expect CNN to be.

Definitely understand we are early in this process.  It will take a while before much of the world is interested in non-android alternatives to the Intel/MS-Apple world.

Given that I am finally able even to test graphical apps on my Cubieboards, I get that things are really just starting.  The first step IS to move away from remixes to easier installs and use on a wide assortment of platforms.