Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with FC25 Server

Hello,

I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and I want to use it as a small server. I installed FC25 on it. The only additional piece of hardware is a bluetooth keyboard/mouse device, which is connected via usb dongle. On the software side I only installed a samba server and opened the related ports with a firewall command.
This installation is working and I can access the shared folder. However after a while - it differs - the server isn't available anymore. No ping is possible, also there is no HDMI signal anymore - the only thing I can do is restart it. I'm keeping the software up to date, but that doesn't solve the problem. 
So what I would like to ask is, if there are known stability issues? Or is there something I can check and maybe fix? Maybe I could provide some details (not sure what - log doesn't tell anything usefull) to track down any issue.

Best Regards
Alex

[Daniel Laczi]

Hi Alex,

quite a while ago I had a similar problem which turned out to be a
hardware issue. First thing you should check is the power supply.
Furthermore you could check if you have any missplaced heatsink nearby
any metal pieces. Also a metal case could probably cause problems.

Regards,
Daniel

Am 25.01.2017 um 22:39 schrieb [e-mail]:
> Hello,
>
> I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and I want to use it as a small server. I installed FC25 on it. The only additional piece of hardware is a bluetooth keyboard/mouse device, which is connected via usb dongle. On the software side I only installed a samba server and opened the related ports with a firewall command.
> This installation is working and I can access the shared folder. However after a while - it differs - the server isn't available anymore. No ping is possible, also there is no HDMI signal anymore - the only thing I can do is restart it. I'm keeping the software up to date, but that doesn't solve the problem. 
> So what I would like to ask is, if there are known stability issues? Or is there something I can check and maybe fix? Maybe I could provide some details (not sure what - log doesn't tell anything usefull) to track down any issue.
>
> Best Regards
> Alex
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[Peter Robinson]

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:39 PM,   wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and I want to use it as a small server. I installed FC25 on it. The only additional piece of hardware is a bluetooth keyboard/mouse device, which is connected via usb dongle. On the software side I only installed a samba server and opened the related ports with a firewall command.
> This installation is working and I can access the shared folder. However after a while - it differs - the server isn't available anymore. No ping is possible, also there is no HDMI signal anymore - the only thing I can do is restart it. I'm keeping the software up to date, but that doesn't solve the problem.
> So what I would like to ask is, if there are known stability issues? Or is there something I can check and maybe fix? Maybe I could provide some details (not sure what - log doesn't tell anything usefull) to track down any issue.

There's no known issues I've seen running it from a Server PoV but
there's some common issues. Do you have the storage for the share on a
USB HDD or is it just sharing space on the SD card? What model of RPi
is it and what is the amp rating on the power supply. The most common
issue is caused by a PSU that's not strong enough.

[Jan Kurik]

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:39 PM,   wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and I want to use it as a small server. I installed FC25 on it. The only additional piece of hardware is a bluetooth keyboard/mouse device, which is connected via usb dongle. On the software side I only installed a samba server and opened the related ports with a firewall command.
> > This installation is working and I can access the shared folder. However after a while - it differs - the server isn't available anymore. No ping is possible, also there is no HDMI signal anymore - the only thing I can do is restart it. I'm keeping the software up to date, but that doesn't solve the problem.
> > So what I would like to ask is, if there are known stability issues? Or is there something I can check and maybe fix? Maybe I could provide some details (not sure what - log doesn't tell anything usefull) to track down any issue.
>
> There's no known issues I've seen running it from a Server PoV but
> there's some common issues. Do you have the storage for the share on a
> USB HDD or is it just sharing space on the SD card? What model of RPi
> is it and what is the amp rating on the power supply. The most common
> issue is caused by a PSU that's not strong enough.

I had exactly the same issue some time ago. The strange thing was that
all USB related devices (keyboard, network card) and HDMI was not
working, but the system was still somehow alive and  I was able to
find valid records in logs about the system activities. When I
equipped the RPi with more powerful PSU (5V/3A) the issue disappeared.
My conclusion is that even the RPi do not need to consume much in
average, there are some peaks when it need a lot of current. If a PSU
can not provide the required current, it survives, but USB bridge dies
(it means also NIC).

Regards,
Jan

[Peter Robinson]

> > > I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and I want to use it as a small server. I installed FC25 on it. The only additional piece of hardware is a bluetooth keyboard/mouse device, which is connected via usb dongle. On the software side I only installed a samba server and opened the related ports with a firewall command.
> > > This installation is working and I can access the shared folder. However after a while - it differs - the server isn't available anymore. No ping is possible, also there is no HDMI signal anymore - the only thing I can do is restart it. I'm keeping the software up to date, but that doesn't solve the problem.
> > > So what I would like to ask is, if there are known stability issues? Or is there something I can check and maybe fix? Maybe I could provide some details (not sure what - log doesn't tell anything usefull) to track down any issue.
> >
> > There's no known issues I've seen running it from a Server PoV but
> > there's some common issues. Do you have the storage for the share on a
> > USB HDD or is it just sharing space on the SD card? What model of RPi
> > is it and what is the amp rating on the power supply. The most common
> > issue is caused by a PSU that's not strong enough.
>
> I had exactly the same issue some time ago. The strange thing was that
> all USB related devices (keyboard, network card) and HDMI was not
> working, but the system was still somehow alive and  I was able to
> find valid records in logs about the system activities. When I
> equipped the RPi with more powerful PSU (5V/3A) the issue disappeared.
> My conclusion is that even the RPi do not need to consume much in
> average, there are some peaks when it need a lot of current. If a PSU
> can not provide the required current, it survives, but USB bridge dies
> (it means also NIC).

Yes, USB is a big power draw as is any wireless interface. To date 90%
of stability problems with the RPi that I've seen have been due to not
having a PSU with enough guts.

Peter

Hi,
the Pi is a 3 Model B. The output of the PSU says 5.1V and 2.5A. Is that
enough? Also I don't have any further storage connected. For sharing I'm
using some space of the 15G card where the OS is installed on.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Peter Robinson 
wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:39 PM,   wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and I want to use it as a small server.
>
> I installed FC25 on it. The only additional piece of hardware is a
> bluetooth keyboard/mouse device, which is connected via usb dongle. On the
> software side I only installed a samba server and opened the related ports
> with a firewall command.
> > This installation is working and I can access the shared folder. However
>
> after a while - it differs - the server isn't available anymore. No ping is
> possible, also there is no HDMI signal anymore - the only thing I can do is
> restart it. I'm keeping the software up to date, but that doesn't solve the
> problem.
> > So what I would like to ask is, if there are known stability issues? Or
>
> is there something I can check and maybe fix? Maybe I could provide some
> details (not sure what - log doesn't tell anything usefull) to track down
> any issue.
>
> There's no known issues I've seen running it from a Server PoV but
> there's some common issues. Do you have the storage for the share on a
> USB HDD or is it just sharing space on the SD card? What model of RPi
> is it and what is the amp rating on the power supply. The most common
> issue is caused by a PSU that's not strong enough.

[Winfried de Heiden]

Hi all,

Since a couple of days I'm hit by hangups as well :( Hard to trace
since the Raspberry Pi 3 does nit react to keyboard, network etc.
anymore and the HDMI monitor goes black.... However, yesterday I was
able to take a photo before the screen goes black: Kernel Panic ...
Fatal exception in interrupt; screen shot attached!

This raspberry Pi has been running for weeks without problems on Fedora
25 using the same power.

Hmmm, any sugestions on this?

Winfried

-----Oorspronkelijke bericht-----

Datum: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:13:26 +0100
Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with FC25
Server
Aan: [e-mail]
Van: Alexander Petrenz

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Hi all,

since I wasn´t able to find out what´s causing those crashes I moved to
raspian and since then the Pi (it was a Gen 3, Model B) is running without
any hickups. So in the end I´m sure, the issue was software related.

Alex

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Winfried de Heiden  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Since a couple of days I'm hit by hangups as well :( Hard to trace since
> the Raspberry Pi 3 does nit react to keyboard, network etc. anymore and the
> HDMI monitor goes black.... However, yesterday I was able to take a photo
> before the screen goes black: Kernel Panic ... Fatal exception in
> interrupt; screen shot attached!
>
> This raspberry Pi has been running for weeks without problems on Fedora 25
> using the same power.
>
> Hmmm, any sugestions on this?
>
> Winfried
>
> -----Oorspronkelijke bericht-----
>
> *Datum*: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:13:26 +0100
> *Onderwerp*: [fedora-arm] Re: Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with FC25
> Server
> *Aan*: [e-mail]
> *Van*: Alexander Petrenz <[e-mail]
> <[e-mail]%3e>>
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[Peter Robinson]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Alexander Petrenz  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> since I wasn´t able to find out what´s causing those crashes I moved to
> raspian and since then the Pi (it was a Gen 3, Model B) is running without
> any hickups. So in the end I´m sure, the issue was software related.

Yes little surprise there, unless it's PSU and we're not as power
optimised as Raspbian yet.

In terms of software, other than the fact they're both Linux distros,
that link Raspbian and Fedora 25. Kernel, toolchain, their binary
display drivers etc are all different. We're all upstream and open,
it's not yet perfect but it's all open but we're not yet the most
power efficient.
> Alex
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Winfried de Heiden  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Since a couple of days I'm hit by hangups as well :( Hard to trace since
> > the Raspberry Pi 3 does nit react to keyboard, network etc. anymore and the
> > HDMI monitor goes black.... However, yesterday I was able to take a photo
> > before the screen goes black: Kernel Panic ... Fatal exception in interrupt;
> > screen shot attached!
> >
> > This raspberry Pi has been running for weeks without problems on Fedora 25
> > using the same power.
> >
> > Hmmm, any sugestions on this?
> >
> > Winfried
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijke bericht-----
> >
> > Datum: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:13:26 +0100
> > Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with FC25
> > Server
> > Aan: [e-mail]
> > Van: Alexander Petrenz
> >
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[Daniel Laczi]

Am 31. Januar 2017 00:19:01 MEZ schrieb Peter Robinson :
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Alexander Petrenz
>  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > since I wasn´t able to find out what´s causing those crashes I moved
>
> to
> > raspian and since then the Pi (it was a Gen 3, Model B) is running
>
> without
> > any hickups. So in the end I´m sure, the issue was software related.
>
> Yes little surprise there, unless it's PSU and we're not as power
> optimised as Raspbian yet.
>
> In terms of software, other than the fact they're both Linux distros,
> that link Raspbian and Fedora 25. Kernel, toolchain, their binary
> display drivers etc are all different. We're all upstream and open,
> it's not yet perfect but it's all open but we're not yet the most
> power efficient.

Fedora might not be perfect if your doing client stuff and need display drivers. However it is really great if you need a small server, because it is the only maintained distro for the Raspian shipping SELinux by default! Thanks for anything your doing Peter ;)
> > Alex
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Winfried de Heiden
>
> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Since a couple of days I'm hit by hangups as well :( Hard to trace
>
> since
> > > the Raspberry Pi 3 does nit react to keyboard, network etc. anymore
>
> and the
> > > HDMI monitor goes black.... However, yesterday I was able to take a
>
> photo
> > > before the screen goes black: Kernel Panic ... Fatal exception in
>
> interrupt;
> > > screen shot attached!
> > >
> > > This raspberry Pi has been running for weeks without problems on
>
> Fedora 25
> > > using the same power.
> > >
> > > Hmmm, any sugestions on this?
> > >
> > > Winfried
> > >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijke bericht-----
> > >
> > > Datum: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:13:26 +0100
> > > Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with
>
> FC25
> > > Server
> > > Aan: [e-mail]
> > > Van: Alexander Petrenz
> > >
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Daniel Laczi

[Peter Robinson]

> Am 31. Januar 2017 00:19:01 MEZ schrieb Peter Robinson
> :
> > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Alexander Petrenz
> >  wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > since I wasn´t able to find out what´s causing those crashes I moved
> >
> > to
> > > raspian and since then the Pi (it was a Gen 3, Model B) is running
> >
> > without
> > > any hickups. So in the end I´m sure, the issue was software related.
> >
> > Yes little surprise there, unless it's PSU and we're not as power
> > optimised as Raspbian yet.
> >
> > In terms of software, other than the fact they're both Linux distros,
> > that link Raspbian and Fedora 25. Kernel, toolchain, their binary
> > display drivers etc are all different. We're all upstream and open,
> > it's not yet perfect but it's all open but we're not yet the most
> > power efficient.
>
> Fedora might not be perfect if your doing client stuff and need display
> drivers. However it is really great if you need a small server, because it
> is the only maintained distro for the Raspian shipping SELinux by default!

In the case of the small server stuff I would be using the Fedora
Server (awesome web management UX) or minimal editions and not any
spin with a GUI as it'll give more resources to the server bits as GUI
desktops reserve memory for GPU processing. :-)
> Thanks for anything your doing Peter ;)

I knew F-25 wasn't perfect and that there would be teething issues but
then if the world waited on perfect there wouldn't be a release (or a
RPi). We've already shipped a number of perf improvements in the F-25
cycle with more to come and F-26 should be a decent bump up in all
respects there too.

Peter
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Winfried de Heiden
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Since a couple of days I'm hit by hangups as well :( Hard to trace
> >
> > since
> > > > the Raspberry Pi 3 does nit react to keyboard, network etc. anymore
> >
> > and the
> > > > HDMI monitor goes black.... However, yesterday I was able to take a
> >
> > photo
> > > > before the screen goes black: Kernel Panic ... Fatal exception in
> >
> > interrupt;
> > > > screen shot attached!
> > > >
> > > > This raspberry Pi has been running for weeks without problems on
> >
> > Fedora 25
> > > > using the same power.
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm, any sugestions on this?
> > > >
> > > > Winfried
> > > >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijke bericht-----
> > > >
> > > > Datum: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:13:26 +0100
> > > > Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with
> >
> > FC25
> > > > Server
> > > > Aan: [e-mail]
> > > > Van: Alexander Petrenz
> > > >
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[Alexander Petrenz]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Peter Robinson 
wrote:
> > Am 31. Januar 2017 00:19:01 MEZ schrieb Peter Robinson
> > :
> > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Alexander Petrenz
> > >  wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > since I wasn´t able to find out what´s causing those crashes I moved
> > >
> > > to
> > > > raspian and since then the Pi (it was a Gen 3, Model B) is running
> > >
> > > without
> > > > any hickups. So in the end I´m sure, the issue was software related.
> > >
> > > Yes little surprise there, unless it's PSU and we're not as power
> > > optimised as Raspbian yet.
> > >
> > > In terms of software, other than the fact they're both Linux distros,
> > > that link Raspbian and Fedora 25. Kernel, toolchain, their binary
> > > display drivers etc are all different. We're all upstream and open,
> > > it's not yet perfect but it's all open but we're not yet the most
> > > power efficient.
> >
> > Fedora might not be perfect if your doing client stuff and need display
> > drivers. However it is really great if you need a small server, because
>
> it
> > is the only maintained distro for the Raspian shipping SELinux by
>
> default!
>
> In the case of the small server stuff I would be using the Fedora
> Server (awesome web management UX) or minimal editions and not any
> spin with a GUI as it'll give more resources to the server bits as GUI
> desktops reserve memory for GPU processing. :-)

That was exactly my intention and since I like the FOSS idea and the
community behind that, I used the FC25 server image and started with
installing samba. For the beginning I wanted to setup a local network file
share. I had the HDMI cable connected, but always used ssh and I didn't
installed any desktop environment.
However I still had those crashes. I would love to provide some more
information on the cause (if they are not already known), so it can be
fixed. On the other hand I would need some hints how to do that, since I'm
not very experienced in Linux debugging yet.

Alex
> > Thanks for anything your doing Peter ;)
>
> I knew F-25 wasn't perfect and that there would be teething issues but
> then if the world waited on perfect there wouldn't be a release (or a
> RPi). We've already shipped a number of perf improvements in the F-25
> cycle with more to come and F-26 should be a decent bump up in all
> respects there too.
>
> Peter
> > > > Alex
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Winfried de Heiden
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Since a couple of days I'm hit by hangups as well :( Hard to trace
> > >
> > > since
> > > > > the Raspberry Pi 3 does nit react to keyboard, network etc. anymore
> > >
> > > and the
> > > > > HDMI monitor goes black.... However, yesterday I was able to take a
> > >
> > > photo
> > > > > before the screen goes black: Kernel Panic ... Fatal exception in
> > >
> > > interrupt;
> > > > > screen shot attached!
> > > > >
> > > > > This raspberry Pi has been running for weeks without problems on
> > >
> > > Fedora 25
> > > > > using the same power.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm, any sugestions on this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Winfried
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Oorspronkelijke bericht-----
> > > > >
> > > > > Datum: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:13:26 +0100
> > > > > Onderwerp: [fedora-arm] Re: Possible Hangups on Raspberry Pi with
> > >
> > > FC25
> > > > > Server
> > > > > Aan: [e-mail]
> > > > > Van: Alexander Petrenz
> > > > >
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> > Daniel Laczi
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