AutoQA pkg tests (Half baked)

[Athmane Madjoudj]

Hello,

This is my first attempt to integrate my small test suite (currently 
server-oriented) into AutoQA framework, I've not yet tested running 
testes through autoqa, I need to install some deps, next week I'll try 
to check [1].

git repo: git://fedorapeople.org/~athmane/autoqa.git

tested are in: tests/pkg_tests/tests

[1] http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/fedora-qa/autoqa/

-- 
Athmane Madjoudj

[James Laska]

On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 01:43 +0100, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
>  Hello,
>  
>  This is my first attempt to integrate my small test suite (currently 
>  server-oriented) into AutoQA framework, I've not yet tested running 
>  testes through autoqa, I need to install some deps, next week I'll try 
>  to check [1].
>  
>  git repo: git://fedorapeople.org/~athmane/autoqa.git
>  
>  tested are in: tests/pkg_tests/tests
>  
>  [1] http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/fedora-qa/autoqa/ 
Very nice, thank you for sharing!  I'm still absorbing your code, but
just a few quick comments...

Have you considered using a more standard (well-defined/documented) test
format?  We have a lot of folks with experience using beakerlib [1] (a
bash test helper library), and I'm sure there are others.  At the very
least, you might want to consider a tests/pkg_tests/tests/README file
explaining the test format, required files, required file permissions,
and perhaps some sample hello-world type thing?  However, I would
suggest going with a well-documented format for ease in maintenance.  We
can explore some options if you are interested.

We discussed on #fedora-qa already, but I think we should mention that
these tests are potentially disruptive to the system.  We might want to
explore doing a virt-install in your test wrapper so your tests are
provided a disposable system.  Alternatively, bonus points if you can
figure out how to farm out the tests to a cloud service instead.

In each of your test scripts, perhaps add some documentation explaining
what the purpose of the test is?  This likely would be covered by the
test format above.

I think we need to explore execution a bit further.  We have grand plans
of defining a structure for package maintainers to define per-package
tests in their own git space (likely alongside their
pkgs.fedoraproject.org code).  However, we aren't yet able to provide
disposable test systems to support maintainer contributed tests.  I
don't have a full answer for this yet, but in the meantime I think it's
perfectly fine to explore this idea further.  Some questions to help
lead us to the answer.  

     1. Who is the expected audience for these test results?  Meaning,
        if a test fails, who needs to know?
     2. Who is expected to maintain and expand these tests?
     3. When should these tests be run?

Thanks,
James

[1] https://fedorahosted.org/beakerlib/

[Athmane Madjoudj]

On 06/14/2011 02:52 PM, James Laska wrote:
>  On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 01:43 +0100, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: 
...
<snip>
>  Have you considered using a more standard (well-defined/documented) test
>  format?  We have a lot of folks with experience using beakerlib [1] (a
>  bash test helper library), and I'm sure there are others.  At the very
>  least, you might want to consider a tests/pkg_tests/tests/README file
>  explaining the test format, required files, required file permissions,
>  and perhaps some sample hello-world type thing?  However, I would
>  suggest going with a well-documented format for ease in maintenance.  We
>  can explore some options if you are interested.
>  
Yes I've looked at BeakerLib (already used by initscripts test), well I 
was very impressed by the quality of the code and output (never thought 
that we could have do that we Bash/SH) but I suppose that tests can be 
written in different language (Python/Ruby/Perl ...), only exit return 
value matter.


>  We discussed on #fedora-qa already, but I think we should mention
> that
>  these tests are potentially disruptive to the system.  We might want to
>  explore doing a virt-install in your test wrapper so your tests are
>  provided a disposable system.  Alternatively, bonus points if you can
>  figure out how to farm out the tests to a cloud service instead. 
Cloud service is very interesting idea.

>  In each of your test scripts, perhaps add some documentation explaining
>  what the purpose of the test is?  This likely would be covered by the
>  test format above.
>  
+1 for docs, this should be my next task.

>  I think we need to explore execution a bit further.  We have grand
> plans 
....<snip>
>        1. Who is the expected audience for these test results?  Meaning,
>           if a test fails, who needs to know? 
Perhaps package maintainer or QA so we can fill bugs after reproducing 
them manually.

>        2. Who is expected to maintain and expand these tests? 


>        3. When should these tests be run?
>  
Not sure, maybe during validation tests or after.

Thanks.
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Athmane Madjoudj